>cutting is harder than bulking How can you be this retarded?

>>40403330
bulking is harder. way harder.

>>40403330
cutting and bulking both require discipline, but cutting requires a self-limiting discipline (shit people are socially trained to dislike) and bulking requires a self-forcing discipline (shit we're trained to do beginning in elementary school)

>>40403330
You are desgnied to eat. Your body literally makes you feel happy when you eat.
And it makes you feel like shit when you dont eat.
How is it even more dificult to eat more? It doesnt make sense.

You're actually stupid if you argue this one way or the other.

It takes the most basic level of reasoning to understand why some people find cutting or bulking harder.

If you aren't trolling, you need to have a long hard look at your self and consider what went wrong in early life.

>>40403523
Fatty detected.

When you lift you need to eat more than is comfortable. As long as ur not eating calorie bombs like candy and pastries, it becomes very difficult to eat >2,750 calories per day. You can't really get that many calories from three average sized meals.

Cutting on the other hand is easy. You pretty much just eat a normal amount and cut out snacks.

>>40403559

Wow you are actually an idiot.

A normal amount is the OBVIOUS difference here.

To fat people, a normal amount is a surplus.

Are you trolling or actually too dumb to figure that out?

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>>40403580

>>40403580
>>40403615

sub-out tripfag for troll. you get the point.

>>40403330
Bulking is fucking hard.

I could eat practically nothing and feel just fine, but eating 3k+ calories to gain any weight is just plain difficult, even with marijuana munchies

>raised with big appetite, constant treats etc.. bulking easy cutting hard.
>raised with no snacking and smaller portions, small appetite, cutting easy bulking hard.

Thats all it is.

18+ years of ingrained eating habits is very hard to change.

>>40403330
Depends, for me bulking is way easier, I can eat 4k calories a day and not feel a thing. Keep in mind I really like eating, so there is that

>>40403523
>You are designed to eat nearly 3000kcal a day
No man, seriously I hate bulking, how the fuck do fat people manage to eat so goddamned much?

>>40403695
>3500kcalOreoMilkshake.jpg

>>40403695

I regularly used to eat a foot long subway, bag of 4 large soft cookies, and a tub of 24 brownie bites, in one sitting (with a diet coke) for lunch.
Totalling over 3000kcal easily.

Then I'd have a big dinner of the usual shit, meat and fries with all the sauces.

Fat people just have a huge appetite, and sugar doesn't sate it but it makes us feel goooood.

>>40403695
Easy, say you eat 5 times a day for 600 calories each and it is done

>>40403580
>To fat people, a normal amount is a surplus
Only cause they stuff their faces with sugar and calorie bombs.

Try getting some self control

>>40403330

For me cutting is harder than bulking. Not because I lack discipline, I have been cutting successfully for a couple of months using a combination of IF and keto, without losing strength.

The problem for me is that bulking has this great psychological reward that is missing with cutting. When I bulk my weights increase every week, consistently, it's really satisfying watching it increase at a good pace, and unambiguously. Every week I have success.

Cutting, on the other hand, has a success metric that only arrives at the end: the elusive abs. Sure, I can watch the scale go down every week, but there's a lot of variance in that scale, and it doesn't go down monotonically. I might go 180 -> 179 - > 179.2 -> 178 for example. And really, I don't give a shit what my weight is, I just don't want a flabby gut.

>>40403761
I'm not saying it's impossible but it is definitely a chore
>>40403725
Absolutely disgusting.jpg
>I regularly used to eat a foot long subway, bag of 4 large soft cookies, and a tub of 24 brownie bites, in one sitting (with a diet coke) for lunch.
Totalling over 3000kcal easily.
Fucking why?
>Then I'd have a big dinner of the usual shit, meat and fries with all the sauces.
How?
Before I started lifting I was a near constant 160lbs after puberty and I was eating whatever the hell I wanted.

>>40403818

Because its rewarding and I love food.
I don't do it anymore aside from the odd bad day.

I've never weighed less than 170lbs since I stopped growing at 5'10.

>>40403523
Fattass detected.

When you eat enough, your body tells you you are full, and you are no longer motivated to eat more. Of course this effect doesn't exist when you binge eat for 25 years

My goal caloric intake per day to feel comfy is 4.5k-5k
I'm cutting at 3k rn and feel like shit every day and am losing 1kg a week

I don't understand how skellies can not eat desu

They're both hard in different ways. Cutting requires restraint to not eat but to not starve. Bulkin requires determination to eat but restraint in not eating too much.

I prefer bulking to cutting because I can do more with meals, but cutting is by far easier since it's literally just eating less.

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Man my brain and stomach is currently telling me to get the fuck in the kitchen and eat some gud shit. But that calorie deficit of 500 will gib sicc asthaetics soon. Not going down there is pretty easy considering I've been a fat fucc my whole life.

>tfw you're gonna make it

>>40404233
Go play some vidya, get a job, or watch animu. You're gonna make it

>>40403330
How are you going to tell me that when I'm constantly fighting an urge to scarf 1500 a meal every hour of everyday?

I'm a recovering fatty and 2000 cal a day is nothing to me, but I'm sticking to it. I could literally eat for hours and not get full.

For me not eating is not inaction as much as it is resisting all the time.

>>40403837
>Because its rewarding and I love food.
Nigger I love food too but I put the fork down once in awhile

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>>40403330
That's because the DYELs here on /fit/ think they can get anywhere in a decent amount of time bulking on 200 cals surplus and immediately turn into giant pussies when they can't see their sick abs anymore and gain some fat.

Cutting is easy as long as you count calories. It's pure arithmetic.
But try to stuff that 5th ground beef steak down your throat without puking.

>>40403356
Yeah adding peanut butter after meals is hard bro fighting the bodies survival instinct to eat is ez as cake!!!.

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>tfw you have no drive or motivation to workout while cutting unless you take caffeine

I just hate not making any strength gains while cutting.

>>40405727
My drive to lift is so low that I enjoy cardio more now. At least you dont need to be in a surplus to run further and faster

>>40405419
refer to >>40404663

>>40403330
All I need to do to cut is play videogames. Otherwise I get hungry every 3 hours.

That being said, bulking is also easy because I love eating. The only issue is I'm poor.

>>40404003
>When you eat enough, your body tells you you are full
>what is leptin resistance

>>40403330
Bad bait but...
>foregoing something you like to do is easier than doing the thing you like to do
Eating feels good you stupid skelly faggot.

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>Not eating enough to gain muscle
>Put 200g oats and 400g whole milk in a blender after workout
>So bloated I cannot physically bend over, sit, or lie down without pain
>Next day at work
>Smell something shitty
>Realize I've been sharting and leaking out my ass all day
>Have to go to bathroom every hour and perform an underwear check

>>40405940
>eating after you are full feels good

Say what now?

>>40406058
I know this feel.

>>40406058
fukkin lol

>not eating 30g of halva, which is 2000 calories, for breakfast
bulking is ez

>>40403330
I used to be a skelly (160ish) then bulked up to 205lbs at 5'10. I'm currently cutting and I'm down to 195.

I find both easy but it sucks having to watch what you eat.

>>40406060
Weird dubs.
But yeah, if you don't eat really slow, eating to satiety feels good. If you overeat you enjoy the food on the way down, typically, as well.

Cutting = you always feel hungry.
Bulking = You always full.

How the fuck is this a debate?

>>40406945
Because some people feel bloated when they bulk and feel satiated when cutting you obnoxious faggot.

>>40403794

Well said.

>>40406902
Rofl, skelly at 160? I'm 6 foot at 150, bulking slowly. I already have a good ottermode

>>40406964

Literally the definition of cutting is going on a caloric deficit you cum guzzler. That means that your body is taking in less energy than it needs, something we as organisms fight against.

So tell me how being hungry satiates you when cutting is the exact opposite?

I will agree with you that feeling bloated is shit. I'm just saying that cutting is physiologically more taxing

>>40406988
Satiety isn't defined by caloric intake.

Cutting is super easy, just fast two days a week and don't eat like a fucking animal the other 5.

Fasting is also good for insulin sensitivity which is a problem for a lot of lifters.

The amount of easily available food and obese people here in the US should easily tell you that bulking is easier than cutting for most people. Not trying to make excuses, just is what it is, skellies need to learn to drink their calories if they are having trouble keeping it down.

>>40406977
Well obviously if you're lifting that's different dude. I was talking about before I lifted.

>>40406999

Sure. But your body sends you signals of hunger when you're in a deficit to let you know you should be eating more.

Honest question for you - do you feel fine and can ignore hunger?

>>40407023
> But your body sends you signals of hunger when you're in a deficit to let you know you should be eating more.
So you eat something satisfies your hunger without having a lot of calories. Oatmeal, potatoes, etc. It's called eating healthy.

>Honest question for you - do you feel fine and can ignore hunger?
Personally, yes. But that's not really relevant.

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>bulking is so much harder idk how you fatasses can handle eating more than a crouton a day

>>40403330
Training while well fed is easier than training while underfed?

Easier to stuff your face than to diet?

>(inaction) is harder than (action)?

how about you try to stop breathing? Fucking mongoloid

>>40403330
>eating inaction
yes, but eating is an easy action, and so is just general inaction.

So if you do the eating inaction without calorie burn (action), then you will not cut.

>>40407428
Life sure is simple when you boil it down to useless platitudes.

We evolved to eat and crave food. High calorie food is more readily available than ever. Lots of developed countries struggle with obesity.

No excuses for fatties but try to think here a little.

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>"bulking is way harder than cutting"
>"innaction is easier than action"
>"I cant eat more than 1000 calories a day you are all fatasses lol"

Just depends on how stretched your stomach is. When I was 315 I could kill 5+ mcdonalds sandwiches with fries and chicken nuggets but now if I try to eat near that I have to lay down from the stomach pain. Bulking, cutting, it's all shitty but no one changes their diet for the fun of it. It's all about the end goal

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>>40407468
Same guy?

>>40407468
those hands are shopped right?

>>40403330
>5'10"
>120lbs ultra skelly
>started eating 3000 calories a day
>now I've started waking up at 3am
>constantly ravenous
Please tell me this is normal. I hope to God I didn't get a tape worm or some shit.

>>40407550
Appears to be
>>40407563
I hope they are

>>40407023
of course I can fucking ignore hunger.. if I sit in my room and play vidya all day I can literally forget to eat.

good thing /fit/ told me to eat 5 meals a day :^)

>>40403330
Its about willpower

>>40407584
lol why 3000 you dont need nearly that much

>>40407987
I wanna get out of skelly as fast as I can.

>Bulking
>Harder than cutting

wow, eating food is soooo hard....fucking kill yourselves hard-gainer scum

>>40408000
and get fat in the process lol?

>>40408142
Once I reach the weight I'm happy with I'll just maintain.

>>40403755
>goooood
Piss off

>>40403330
>>>>>

Neither is fucking hard. The word "hard" is so fucking stupid.

There's no difficulty in doing these things, it's literally just doing an action set by a calculated plan you laid out (your necessary calories/macronutrients). There is NOTHING hard about it, you just do it. You just do the necessary action that you know you need to do and you get the result you were expecting.

It's the easiest thing ever because progress is so linear and easily measurable.

>be former fatty

>cut to 12% and hit 1/2/3/4

>figure i should eat at maintenance before i lean bulk for a month

>check scales in a month

>I put on like 3kg

>mfw people struggle to eat, when i literally am permabulk mode unless i kick my ass into gear

m-muh genetics

>constant fatigue
>if you dont get enough protein your body actually cannibalizes your muscle
>demoralizing when you cant lift at your full strength

Every skeleton in this thread needs to fuck off immediately, bulking is fucking easy all you have to do is eat
Seriously your body actually rewards when you eat at a surplus and you think its difficult to eat that extra steak or few extra spoonfuls or peanut butter

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>Calculate how many calories your maintenance is

>Set your plan to eat more/less than that number
>Actually do it
>Lose gain/weight, as expected

I don't see what's difficult.

Or do you mean the /fit/ version of """bulking""" where you need 1500 calorie surplus and get fat as fuck?

>>40403330
we are basically designed to eat, forcing yourself not to eat when there is food available goes against your base instincts

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>>40407550
"YOUR wifes boyfriend and her son"

literally dk what the fuck i just read

>>40403330
>bulking is harder than cutting

How can you be this retarded. Eating a few hundred extra calories is harder than fighting the natural urge to build up fat stores for winter?

>>40403330
Eating less means enduring some discomfort, and in today's society we are conditioned to fix any minute amount of discomfort immediately.

Eating more is easier because I get to feel good or at least not bad as a result, where abstaining from eating means I have to endure a temporary discomfort.

Westerners in general are absolutely pussified in that regard. I believe that most of them would simply cease to function if deprived of food for just a day or two, and not because they starve but because they would simply go apeshit crazy from having to put up with a discomfort.

>>40403330
i think it depends on the person. for example, i'm really skinny and from my perspective eating more than im used to is challenging and id think that it would be easier to cut. idek if that has anything to do with weight, but to me eating more than youre used too sounds easier than eating less because i guess im kind of lazy and it's never been hard for me to skip meals

>>40403330
Cutting is easier.

I find eating 2300 calories way easier than eating ~3500calories.

>>40403755
Thats fucking nasty.

>>40408429
You just read into the future, anon. I hope you get permission to have some nice amenities in your shed. I requested an N64 but got denied.

>>40403641
easiest thing for me is eat,... muchies just give me +1500 cal surplus easy....

2 milka oreo bam :D

>>40403330
>Not breathing is harder than breathing

How can you be this retarded? Breathing less (inaction) is harder than eating more (action)?

>>40403330
Dieting while cutting is easy if you're a halfway decent cook

The hard part of cutting is training while in a deficit

> weights feel like shit
> you feel like shit during and after the workout
> you're lucky to keep all your lifts the same, let alone make gains

>>40403330
yeah, never masturbating is easier than masturbating.

you literally have to do nothing

>>40403330
It's so easy not to eat. Cutting you just have to not eat past a certain amount, bulking has you eating in excess no matter what and then some...
I feel like shit on a bulk. Fuck bulking, I hate this shit.

>>40403330
That is like saying that continuing smoking is harder than to quit smoking.

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>>40403695
> there are people on /fit/ right now that gain weight on 3000 calories a day
L M A O