Is Hell Week the toughest military training in the world?

Can't be that bad we make the kids who pledge my frat do similar shit for initiation week

>>40318179
>holding hands with your military buddies
>tough
hmmmmm :^)

>>40318195
I'm in a fraternity, too. We have hell week, too. It doesn't compare, anon. They still got to go to class, wear clothes, and not try to fight off hypothermia daily. It's significantly different.

That said, I think Cold War era spetsnaz was probably some of the toughest in the world.

>>40318179
Fit people lose huge amounts of weight during Ranger School. It's not as intense but it goes on for much, much longer and destroys your body rather than building it up like BUD/S.

Sounds worse to me.

Mentally? Possibly.

Physically? I doubt it

>>40318446
>it goes on for much, much longer

>Ranger School length: 61 days
>BUD/S length: 168 days

>>40318241
yeah those spetsnaz guys died from the training, before they even saw real combat

>>40318767
My recruit training was 154 lol

>>40318179
Cadre Course for the Australian (and probably British) SAS is worse than Hell Week by all accounts, as it's hell week for basically a month straight. You don't get a hot meal until day 8 and you pretty much average 2-4 hours of sleep for the first 3 weeks.

I always heard SAS entry test was the most physically challenging test in the world, but I might be biased because I'm Scottish.

They've tamed in back but it still kills a lot of people. Presumably only Mossad challenge you this much physically. Arguably the Spetznaz challenge you harder mentally, though I know the SAS torture you during training and again, often accidentally kill people.

>>40318179
its nothing compared to best korea trainings


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKR_gC_yBPU

SAS has the toughest

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>>40318179
Well based off the fail rate and the quality of candidate trying out its easy to say Delta Tryouts "Long walk" is the hardest. 80-90% fail rate and nearly everyone there is already either a ranger or SF.

>>40318926
Propaganda

>>40318999
you sure? they can deflect axes with there abs man, that takes some hard training

The Hardest for me was the assfab.
I only got a 2 but I don't know what that means.
My CO said it was ok and just gave me another test. Only it was weird, pictures only and he gave me crayons.
I'm pretty sure I aced it though.

t. marine

>>40319289
Lmao

>>40319289
Dude thats some high level shit, you sure you're not being prepped to work for intelligence? I just got some small colourful box with shaped holes on it and a few shapes to try to get in the box, was sweating bullets throughout that fucker.

>>40318849
thats because you are shit so it took extra long

Spetsnaz drug you and you wake up in the middle of a maze waist deep in pig guts and have to wadr your way out

>>40318179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlQXTrwhYro

>week
>weak

>>40318179
SAS recruits have to undergo full blown interrogation

The SF in alot of asian countries is probably more physically exerting.

Holding hands while lying down in the sea is hardly the toughest, the underwater training isn't even comparable to most military diver training.

>>40319368
Sounds neat imho

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>finally hit 1/2/3/4 to get ready for the military
>can hit 300 PT score pretty easily

>realize that every advanced infantry unit requires a comprehensive swimming course
>watch the Combat Controller episode of Surviving the Cut
>get anxious just watching the scuba course

Is Ranger the only special combat unit that doesn't simulate drowning during training? Or do I just need to finally get used to swimming?

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Any marines here? Is it true that you lose gains at camp Pendleton?

>>40318195
>fraternity
>he literally pays for friends

It's hard, but only a week. The Winter Mountain Leader Courses in bridgeport are the hardest courses that I know of, in terms of length and how much you physically have to do. That and Bridgeport is probably the worst place there is to be in the winter.

>>40319485
Only if you don't train on your own.

>>40319485
My friend is a marine officer, when he came back from training he looked bigger but may have just been in my head. He definitely didn't get smaller and he was already a big guy

>>40318179


according to a navy seal (jocko willink) hell week is not training. it is a baseline standard that you have to achieve to be able to join the seals and start actually training with them. and it is far more about willpower than anything else.

>>40319449
SF
You may need to do some swiming for sure but ive never heard of them simulating drowning during normal SFAS
however
if you go to the combat diver course then hell ya.

>>40319737
how does simulated drowning work exactly? Do they just pull you out right before you lose consciousness?

>>40319600
For you

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Brazilian AF (PELOPES)

Not sure if the toughest but having to crawl bare skinned on fire ant hills was very shitty and I still haven't fully understood the purpose of it.

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>>40319758
Well they do drown proofing and tie your hands and feet and usually make you swim and perform excersises like that. Also while scubaing they will attack you and rip your mask aoff and tie your hoses in knots. If you are actually interested then id recommend watching part 5 of the 6 part buds documentary or look up the surviving the cut episode on combat divers.Download it or watch this crappy version on jewtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wdUfEC2ut8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_4zz46N2fw

>>40318826
This is more common than you think, though. My dad was navy special forces (eod diver) and multiple people died in their training while he was stationed at the base where they conducted all of it. The divers had to recover anyone who drowned in any kind of navy training there, and occassionally it would be their own classmates.

>>40318767
lol

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>>40318195
>>40318241
I'm also in a frat.

How stupid do you have to be to compare pledging to military training? Our "hell week" is nothing compared to that. By that point you're already not gonna get dropped you basically just have to stay awake and get hazed.

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>Its a "people post outdated/fictional wikipedia summaries of what happens in their favourite COD unit and somehow determine which process is more difficult based on that" episode

My town's religion has an initiation where, when we turn 16, we are sent into deep Fiordland with nothing but knifes, rifle, ammunition, and a water bottle. If we don't survive 6 months without coming out we are not considered men.

>>40320157
My village's mysteric cult has an initiation where, when we turn 12, we are sent into deep sacred grove with nothing but gladium, bow, arrows, and a water goatskin. If we don't survive 1 year without coming out we are not considered teens.

>>40319822
Conta mais dessa porra aí.

>>40319822
to get your mind stronger obviously

>>40320285
my household has an initiation, where, when we turn 5, we are launched into space with nothing but a fishbowl for breathing and we have to survive in the sea of metallic hydrogen deep within Jupiters gaseous atmosphere at roughly 5 million atm while being blasted by ionizing radiation for 1000 years or we're not considered worthy of life and our parents throw us out into the woods to starve.

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>>40320157
>>40320285
My Community's belief system has an induction ceremony when a child turns five we must venture into the vagina with only a loincloth and a blade and a carton of cigarettes and survive for 11 years to be considered a toddler

>>40319822
You also have to live in a shithole, so probably yeah

>>40320400
Treinamento de selva. O pior é que nós nem somos avisados sobre os formigueiros, apenas mandam a gente rastejar por um campo mantendo a cabeça abaixo da vegetação. De repente formigas everywhere e metade dos marmanjos chorando.

>>40320405
It only made me hate ants even more desu.

>>40318179
Hmm no I don't think the SAS has a 'hell week'

>>40318179
Every week is hell week where I live

>>40320501
O que você sabe sobre o 1º BAC? Existe um mínimo recomendado de flexões, abdominais, etc como existe nos SEALs?

>>40318241
Elaborate please

>>40320511
Youre right
They do have "Lucky Dip" which is a fucked field ex with sleep dep, no food and constant movement which varies selection course to selection course
As well as all the other fuck fuck games on the selection course

Australian commandos also have whats called Demarcation at the end of their selection course. For the last three days (when youve already been pushed for the last week on minimal sleep and food), you get absolutely zero sleep and youre physically and mentally active non stop. In between being smashed in the pool, youll get a famil with a foreign weapon system, then be expected to use it the next day. Shit like that.

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>>40320546
São praticamente os mesmos requerimentos do SAR, menos o teste de pressão.

>>40318849
That's also how long a pigmy goat carries.

>>40320635
Mas isso é o mínimo ou o recomendado? O que eu quero dizer é, no caso dos SEALs, existem quantidades mínimas para ser considerado mas existe também uma quantidade muito maior para ser competitivo. Por exemplo, o mínimo de barras é 6 mas eles recomendam pelo menos 20 para ter uma chance real de conseguir uma vaga.

>>40320688
Isso que eu postei é o mínimo. Claro que você deve sempre tentar mais que isso, mas honestamente a quantidade de candidatos aptos não é tão grande ao ponto de você precisar de algo muito além disso. Os SEALs além de bem pagos tem toda uma mítica em volta deles nos EUA então as vagas são mais disputadas. No Brasil pouca gente sequer sabe do 1o BAC. As reprovações vão acontecer ao longo do curso, mas raramente quem tem boa forma fica excluído na avaliação.

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>>40320732
Muito obrigado.

>>40319368
sauce?

>>40318179
Not a single one of these Navy pussies would survive finals week at engineering school.
4 hours of sleep each night? It's like they have too much free time lol.

>>40318767
Ranger school is not a requirement for rangers RASP is. Ranger school is a leadership course.

>>40321898
I think it's actually like 4 hours total.

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>>40319822
Did you have also to fight monkeys, crocodiles and anacondas?

>>40322642
Are favelados considered monkeys? If so yes.
I've seen plenty of anacondas and alligators (no crocodiles in Brazil lrn2geographic range of animals shitlord) but obviously never had to fight them. You'd need to be beyond stupid to get caught by one.

>>40319517
We pay to not hang out with people like you

>>40322793
what did you have to do in your initiation?

>>40319485
If you mean during boot camp then possibly. Just eat what they give you and try not to stress too much. Your physical activity level isn't too strenuous so you won't be shedding weight.

If you mean being stationed on the base, not at all. There are gyms in almost every area.

>>40319537
This is accurate.

I was there with a battalion that had a 25% casualty rate from the winter course. Plus I had a trash BC.

>>40318195
> Frat boy

Kek

>>40319620

There's a documentary on YouTube that covers seal training, I remember this being true in it. Hell week comes first to weed out people who aren't committed. Only after that comes the technical underwater stuff.

Its still brutal, during the 50 metre underwater swim test instructors are dragging unconscious recruits out of the pool. "Sure he passed out, but his head bounced off the wall so technically he passed". That's some dedication, to stay underwater til you black out rather than fail.

>>40318902
A couple of lads trying out for SAS reserves selection died on a march a year or two ago. They haven't toned down the march but they did pledge that there would be a couple more water stations on the route.
Anyway, it's whatever. Soldiers die in training fairly often, I mean yes it's rare but it does happen - an infanteer died due to I think a negligent discharge on a range only a few months ago did he not?

>>40320019
My dad works at nintendo and he says royal marines is the toughest, so there

>>40319449
If you're trying out for rasp, they push you into a pool with gear on and you have to take it off underwater. Then you swim like 20 m

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>>40318195

>>40318926
great, the next time we get invaded by concrete and bricks i guess we'll know who to call

>>40318195
this is the stupidest board on 4chan

>>40319827
Anyone notice that every single one of them has chad jawline?

>>40318926
Kek. This looks like an animated version of sir's New Years comic.

>>40318179
Most failures in BUDS is the dive phase.
Hell week is a test of drive and hunger. Dive phase is the same but adds fear, critical thinking, and actual testable skills.

At least thats what the documentary said kek

>>40319758
I had always heard that they literally drown you and then revive you to see if you will trust them and that sounded quite hard to believe.

Then I saw this in the news last year:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/navy-seal-trainee-s-drowning-death-ruled-homicide-n604566

>>40320157
lol more like sent to christchurch with a Q of gear and have to rob a dairy. fuckn inbred southerner

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>>40323434
I can handle shit like that, it's just the shit where you tread water for an hour straight or they take you down and thrash you around in your scuba gear and you have to fix everything on the spot.

The merit badge did not prepare me for that shit.

>>40325162
>dat pic

Albert Bierstadt?

>>40325192
Ivan Aivazovsky.

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>>40318179
FEEL TEAM 6 HERE

>>40325205
very nice.

Gotta love romantic era painters, especially those with a fondness for the sea.

>>40321898
>le engineering is hard meme
Physics majors laugh at you retards every day
You're probably IE or EnvE too you fucking pseud

>>40321898
>4 hours of sleep each night?
Maybe start studying earlier?

>>40318195
Yeah I got hypothermia and had to be hospitalized during my hell week of pledging. Still promise it doesn't come close to comparing to what military forces use to train their most elite units.

>come on dawg
>I'd pee in her butt
>rye wheat Alfalfa

SBS - is SAS selection followed by 'wet dems' atleast one candidate will die every entry and the risk of hypoxic brain damage is high. Also all training is performed at...... Maximum Dive Depth.

>>40319517
>2017
>Still not greek
What are you black? Get out of here.

>>40318179
where is mercenary bro when you need him?

>>40319289
I keked.

>>40320482
My society has a custom where at 2 weeks of development fetuses are extracted, handed a bottle of brandy and sent out to: harvest the soul of one depressed Russian chess grand-master, beat Superman on the Nintendo64, gather dust from the vast plains of Mars, win the love of a good woman and get a medical degree. If we do not succeed we are not allowed to gestate further.

>>40321222
Give this a read. Was written by a soviet defector in the 80s

http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html

>>40320157
My town's religion has an initiation where, when we turn 16, we are sent into deep South Auckland with nothing but knifes, rifle, ammunition, and a water bottle. If we don't survive 6 months without coming out we are not considered men.

>>40322793
and yet here you are

>>40318179
Physically they might suck, but I suspect the mental torture is what really breaks people the most

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0w2C9HWuUQ

All selections suck at the SOF level.

They're so bad none of these guys want to do it again and would rather be at war. That's how bad it is, they'd rather be in mortal fucking danger over doing a selection again.

>>40318767
>Forgetting the 6-12 months in the 75th before getting sent to Ranger School, before that RASP, before that Airborne, before that OSUT

Nice try.

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>>40318179
Didn't some Pajeets train with the seals or rangers and said that it wasn't that hard? If Pajeets can take it then it shouldn't be a problem

>>40319289
Topkek

>>40326534
>Yeah I got hypothermia and had to be hospitalized during my hell week of pledging.

what the fuck is with this retarded frat culture in the US?

What are the advantages to joining a frat, exactly?

>>40318179
The toughest is probably some horse's ass most dangerous game shit conducted by a coked out warlord somewhere you've never heard of. Training being tough isn't an indication of it being good, the objective is to make the trainees what you need, not just break them.

>>40326972
To be a winner you have to join a frat.
And you want to be a winner, don't you?
Because being a loser is un-american.

>>40326972
I don't know why Chad's join them. For someone who was cripplingly shy it helped a lot as I learned how to rush (talk to new people), how to socialize with women (parties and mixers), and had opportunities to take leadership roles I otherwise wouldn't have been exposed to.

If I didn't join I'd probably have been one of those dormies who just scuttles from the dorm to the class/gym/dining hall and back for four years.

>>40327032
>class/gym/dining hall and back for four years
Been there, done that.

>>40326972
People who can't get by on their own skills join frats in the hope they will meet someone with a rich daddy who can help them find a job at daddy's company. It's really just an anime club for fuccbois.

>>40318179
Being my gf.

>>40318926
they fucced those terracotta bricks up

>>40318195
>>40318241
I thought fraternity intiations basically involved getting gang raped by the other members.

Has gay porn been lying to me?

>>40318179
I love how Navy SEALS and other special forces operatives would be classified as DYEL according to /fit/

It seems that looking like a bearmode powerlifter isn't the optimal male physique after all fatties.

>>40318195
I also in a fraternity and I really hope this post is ironic

>>40321898
4 hours of sleep each night to study? What the fuck were you doing the rest of the semester you fucking chimp?

>>40327725
Who would have thought that a bodyweight of 380 lbs and massive legs are not an advantage when it comes to swimming or marching a long distance.

>>40319517
G E E D
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>>40318195

>>40318926
Those sound effects were ridiculous.

>>40320501

> It only made me hate ants even more desu.

Really useful when insectoids invade the earth

>>40318195
Whether the post is troll or not. The sad thing is, people actually think this way.

and this.
>>40324057

Hell Week is not actually hard, it's just miserable. Every book I've read says it only gets harder after Hell Week. SQT is more physically demanding than anything they did before. Winter Warfare training is more miserable than Hell Week.

Ranger shit is hard too, but I personally don't think it compares equally to BUDS because water/the ocean doesn't play as big a role in your training/your operating. It's the diving familiarity and water comfortability that sets seals apart from the other sofs, on top of the fact that they all learn the airborne and land nav shit that everybody else learns anyways

>>40319979
Jesus do you not understand the concept of a joke?