/plg/ powerlifting general

Now this is plg how I remember it

I'm leaving fuck this shit

>>40298907
I unironically relate to joe in this

I rarely smile anymore and people just look at me like I'm a weirdo, I can feel that my family and friends think something's wrong with me

>>40298947
>i can relate to autism!

conggrats, you have autism lol

>>40298952
I think I might actually

I'm gonna get tested someday

>>40298963
I'll test you

A) is your name dino

if so, yes you have autism and refer to the OP and go away

>>40298978
B) do you take lifting advice from a skinnyfat dyel attentionwhore mentally ill tranny faggot on an anonymous cartoon porn imageboard?

>>40298989
No that would be a very dino thing to do

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Is Sean here?

Of course he is. Sean, why would you let a transexual lead you around by your pecker? It sounds like the Brazilian child molester has you under his thumb. You didn't give out any personal information to that tranny did you?

>>40299042
Sean isn't allowed to answer that question.

Otherwise somebody might tell everyone that Sean was in rehab for alcoholism and drug abuse.

>>40299042
> Sean, why would you let a transexual lead you around by your pecker?

what makes you think that lol

>>40299108
The tranny said that you're not allowed to miss behave otherwise you're going to be punished. Sounds pretty fucking beta me. But excuse me I forgot who I was talking to

>>40299042
implying he ever got the tranny to touch his pecker

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my name is blue shoes and im here to get toned!!

is there a way to stop my legs getting bigger? i want to keep powerlifting but i give a fuck how i look (chicks etc) and the massive thighs i have aren't getting any smaller. in fact, they are growing way too fast, i'm chafing, have gone up 4 pant sizes and counting etc etc bloody etc. this needs to stop.

is there a way to improve strength (dc if its at a reduced rate) without growing the thighs? or should i just maintain my current squat if i want to keep the size from getting even more? (i squat 184kg x 5, yeah haha everyone laugh at the weak fuck who thinks he has big legs).

if someone could gimme a solid answer i'd be grateful. everywhere i post this its all "why do you not want big legs" blah blah, i just don't.

>>40299120
No the tranny just said that because the tranny didnt know where I was for two weeks

>>40299131
Our Lord and saviour

>>40299154
>verywhere i post this its all "why do you not want big legs" blah blah
and yet youve come to a powerlifting thread to ask it again
if anyone would say this to you it would be us

>>40299108
How hard was your dick during the pats absolute demolition of niglanta?

>>40299176
yeah lol

>>40299176
Why would a fuckin leaf watch football, much less cheer on the cheatriots??

>>40299173
i thought it was worth the ask. there's zero literature on it and its something i think a lot of other guys have a problem with.

i've been maintaining my squat for 3 months to stop the growth and it has worked. obviously that's not ideal. these oly guys have legs that aren't like enormous, still big but not gargantuan like isley, yet some of them can out squat me by amost 100 kilos. i just want to know how.

>>40299217
It's genetics m8. Also most men store fat on legs so lower your bf

>>40299217
>i just want to know how.
technique and the right drugs

>>40299230
i was worried this was the answer. my lega have always grown like mad. sigh, i guess i'm plain sailing at 4plate from here.

>>40299252
thanks but i'm a good ole natty. and my technique is probably not great

>>40299294
>thanks but i'm a good ole natty
the olympians aren't

>>40299252
stop encouraging him
he is just fat

Why thread dead?

>>40299659
yes

>>40299659
me and trappy are talking in private in discord, come back tomorrow

>>40299659
It's not dead, it's page 2 you retard. This is the best /plg/ thread that's been made in weeks, except for the ones with doggo-chan.

Started Texas Method today. First pl program I've done. Been training for 14 months atm lifts are 285bp, 331 squat, 433dl 1rm I'm just wondering what types of accessories compliment TM.. I've read plenty of different types but just wondering what /fit/ had to recommend.

>>40299864
Those are in pounds btw.

>>40299659
its uh 1am

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>>40299864
In my opinion

-Lots of upper body bodybuilding (DB press, DB shoulder press, chins/rows, arms)
-Two or three deadlift accessories (reverse hyper, RDL, hamstring isolation etc)
-None for squat

GF scored a 352.89 wilks lads.

>>40299864
don't do TM, it's fucking shit.

>>40299864
Texas method is not a powerlifting program

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>>40299864

>>40299864

Upper body
>overhead press
>behind the neck press
>lateral raise
>flat dumbell press
>tricep pulldowns/pushdowns
>bicep curls
>wrist curls
>dumbell flies
>pec dec

Back
>pendlay rows
>bent rows
>chest supported rows
>dumbell rows
>pullups (neutral, widegrip)
>lat pulldowns
>seated low rows
>facepulls

Legs
>stiff leg deadlifts
>glute ham raise
>weighted back extensions
>reverse hyper
>barbell hip thrusts
>front squats
>leg extensions

>>40299974
stream your suicide

>>40299930
I hate DP press. Would BB be okay or is DB really that superior.
>>40299936
Too late.
>>40299958
Most other sites say otherwise. Thank you for your answer though.
>>40299974
That's a ton of shit. Jesus Christ. Are these supposed to be on the TM training days or alternating days?
>>40299976
Same question as above.

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>>40300053

Training days, but that one is a bit more advanced (hence higher volume).

There are more stuff here http://imgur.com/a/l54a1

>>40299998
disgusting

>>40299998
They have the feet of an African slave that hasn't owned shoes in years

>>40300103
t. never seen a girl barefoot or a man barefoot before, and is too fat to see the bottom of his own feet

so from your post i know youre both a virgin and fat lol

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>>40300067
Haa, I've been rocking that 5 day TM routine for a while. :D

If it wasn't for my 6 week, 1700kcal cut, followed by the 2 week beer-taco-pocalypse, I'd definitely be stronk now.

>>40300067
Thanks hoss. I appreciate the help. Another question, all my normie friends say powerlifting is pointless unless you plan on competing one day. What's your opinion?

So is Amber cucking Joe or what. I literally do not understand that relationship

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>>40300152

Competing is a lot of fun :)

And if you enjoy training and getting stronger, it can easily be a hobbie you do on your own.

>>40300142

kekkk glad to hear it's fuelling beertacopocalypses.

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>The tranny still wont explain to me why he thinks enabling people with dissociative disorders is a good thing instead of giving them the psychotherapy and likely medication they need

>>40300173
If I start posting webms of my lifts will people make fun of me in this general like they do to blueshoes and call me a tripfag when I'm just looking for constructive criticism? That's my nightmare.

>>40300210
Your pepe is mine now

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>>40300237
you do understand what that means for you...right?

>>40300210
>He unironically thinks that psychiatry isn't total horseshit
There are still millions of people still around from when lobotomies were in fashion.

They're still trying to treat depression with electroshock therapy. They don't even understand the mechanism behind it, they're literally just sticking electrodes in brains and crossing their fingers.

>>40300053
It's a strength training program for sure, but it's not specifically design around powerlifting, you can tweak it of course like removing OHP and doing more bench instead, doing more sets at a lower rep range and so on.

But if you don't know wtf you're doing I'd rather just do a powerlifting program than trying to tweak another program, if that's your goal of course (competing)

If you don't plan on competing, just get as strong as you can and for that TM is a pretty good

>>40300173
LIVIA WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN YOUR COUNTRY

>>40300244
Not my fault you're posting your pepes and decreasing the market value. SUpply and demand senpai.

>>40300275
It's a lesson to all sjws. This is what happens when there are no cops. Also it's a commie state of course it's going to shit

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>>40300249
yeah there are also still people around from when we didn't think light has both particle and wave properties but look at us now

your unfounded and anachronistic statements mean nothing

>>40300273
I thought Cleans, BP, Squat, DL and OHP were powerlifting movements? This TM incorporates these movements, how is this not a powerlifting program? Not being a dick but I'm just not understanding.

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>>40300166
Explain

>>40300288
>Provides example of contemporary issues
>B-but physics was misunderstood too!
Yeah, except they never tore up the frontal lobe with a rod stuck through the eye socket. Because lmao brains are hard to understand better just cut it out amirite

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>>40300311
>I thought cleans were powerlifting movements

>>40300210

You need to get a life dude.

>>40300311
Powerlifting is Squat, Bench and Deadlift only

>>40300331
I guess that's oly huh. Like my name implies, I'm a noob when it comes to this stuff. Just been bullshitting in the gym for the past year trying to get my lifts up enough so I don't hate myself like I used too.

>>40298907

Joe is unironically enjoyable to hang out with in real life.

>>40300335
I was out till 8pm today

I do plenty

but I always come home

and make sure I post here when I can

because I love you

and I will always be with you

lurking

in your subconscious

owning a part of your mind

forever

in my posession

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>>40300347
if you enjoy seeing people IRL you are chad normie filth and will be eradicated when the day of frogs comes

>>40300344
Yeah, my bad. I think Im confused since I was deciding whether or not to start a PL or Oly program. So been looking at both types of programs for the past week and a half .

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>>40300331
>>40300311
Both of you need to stfu desu one's an absolute retard and the other is a feogposting autist

>>40300358
if you are doing an oly program you need an actual coach

an oly lifter without formal coaching is a crossfitter

>>40300359
Hey, thanks for the (You).

>>40300356

The day of the frog will never come because you don't even have the confidence to talk to a girl, let alone take control of anything.

>>40300371
thanks

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>>40300374
I dare you to say that again

>>40300362
Well like I said, I ultimately decided on TM. Which I thought was a PL program, but someone in this thread said it was just a strength program. So apparently I don't know wtf I'm talking about and I'm just gonna continue to work at increasing my lifts instead of saying I"m "powerlifting".

>>40300385

Frogs like you will never be on top. You lack the confidence to take the most basic of risks: talking to girls.

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>>40300409
check under your bed at exactly 3:13 tonight

if you fucking dare

>>40300249
>sticking electrodes in brains
>"I don't know how ECT works"

Go away retard.

>>40300416

Last time you said that I did and there was nothing. Are you sure you have the right place?

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>>40300228

Blueshoes is made fun of because he actively tried to get people to make fun of him. He wanted the attention of being a meme.

If you just post your vids asking for help, people will help you.

>>40300275

It's not the entire country. Just one state where the military police (PM) went on strike cause of the stupid dumbfuck president cutting funds.
Without the PM, all the gangs and shit realised they could just go to the streets and do whatever the fuck they wanted.

Chaos ensued, lots of people were randomly killed for no reason other than they were shooting at everyone just for fun, and soon after even "regular people" were participating in looting and stealing.

The actual army is there now.

>>40300325

>physics never did crazy stuff

Are you serious?

>psychiatry is the only part of medicine where they did crazy stuff

lmao

>>40300311

Powerlifting is the competition where you do squats, bench pressses, and deadlifts.

Powerlifting training (a type of strength training but more focused on getting you strong at the three main lifts) often involves other lifts as accessories, like the OHP or even cleans.

TM is a strength training program in general, but can be customised to be powerlifting-specific by putting more emphasis on the big three.

>>40300435
>Hurr it's OK to electrically modify the brain with zero understanding of underlying mechanism
Sounds like you should getvsome ECT. Hopefully then you'll be man enough to Hemingway

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>>40300544

ECT is a last resort thing and only done because it has shown very positive results in some people.
Sure, we don't completely understand it yet, but it works often.

But again, last resort.

>>40300173
>Competing is a lot of fun

The only people who think this are severely autistic or have IQ < 70

>>40300544
It's also literally the most efficacious treatment for depression, and has few side effects apart from temporary retroactive amnesia.

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>>40300708
Winning is a lot of fun.

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>>40300067
>still no upper body pull

>>40300416
Did anything ever happen with that girl you were "training/coaching"

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>>40300536
>The actual army is there now.
"actual army"

Lol. What a shithole.

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>>40300824

>barbell rows aren't upper body pulls

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>>40300907

Yeah, since we don't sacrifice our soldiers with meaningless overseas tasks, we can use them to defend the population.

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>>40300935
>we can use them to defend the population.
Until the army strikes too.

We don't use the army to clear bodies out of the street (yet).

>>40300924
Don't be a cuntrarian (that is cunt+contrarian).

>>40300173
>faggot manlet can't even do 5plate sumo deadlift

LMFAO.

>>40300952
>cuntrarian

This is a good word

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>>40300952

>Until the army strikes too.

I don't think you understand how the army works.

>Don't be a cuntrarian (that is cunt+contrarian).

He complained about no upper body pulls in a program that includes barbell rows.

Don't be a cuntard (that's cunt+retard).

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>>40301009
>I don't think you understand how the army works.
Your police don't know how to police. Your "men" don't know that they are not women.

What does that say about your "army".

>>40301009
post a picture of your girl cock and your butt pussy you goddamn faggot bitch

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>>40301039

>Your police don't know how to police

But they do.

They were on strike though.

>Your "men" don't know that they are not women.

Your country is the one with tumblr-culture and modern feminism, not mine.

>What does that say about your "army".

Effective, cheap, and used for things more important than sending the young men overseas to die in a random shithole.

>>40301047

http://vocaroo.com/i/s12QDFKTMW2A

>>40301078
>used for things more important than sending the young men overseas to die in a random shithole.
I didn't know the US was sending troops to help out in Brazil... weird.

>>40301078

You sound like a fucking retard. Don't be so defensive over your country that you're going to just generalize and say that dudes are dying in other countries for no reason. Have some class.

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>>40301090

They don't, I said shithole.

>>40301105

trigger warning* sorry

>>40301078
>implying that vocaroo doesn't make me want to thrash your butt pussy

nice try, homo

>>40301142

But the US does send troops to help brazil....I feel like you're uneducated on this subject. You do realize that guys from the US military get sent to Brazil to teach them how to not suck right?

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>>40301154

>homo

Fuck off I only fuck men.

>>40301160

>But the US does send troops to help brazil

You mean to learn from our troops.

>You do realize that guys from the US military get sent to Brazil to teach them how to not suck right?

You realise your troops are the ones being taught how to fight and function in rain forests and other areas, right?

>>40301142
>Brazil not a shithole
>rio not specifically surrounded by unregulated, nonpoliced shit holes full of squatting hole shitters

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>>40300902
I mean she's a filthy hebrew so

>>40301178
'TRAPPY-CHAN' EVERYONE
BRAVO

>>40301179
Which me-me is this? Asking for a friend

>>40300972
keynesian economics are still an embarrassing antiquated joke

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How many Nobel Prizes/Fields Medals were won by a Brazilian?
Exactly.

>>40301229
Does the field of cosmetic surgery count?

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>start writing lab report 2 hours ago
>wrote 2 sentences of very obvious material and organized my spectra into 2 categories

senioritis is actually real

Anyone playing any good games?

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>>40301241
>CNN
>quality

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>>40301258

>>40301241
>4th med student
>no rotations this month
>supposed to be learning medical spanish
>never had spanish before in my life
>barely learned the alphabet today
>thingken about squat 1RM tomorrow instead

Spanish a meme language anyhow.

>>40301277
Medical Spanish. What's your squat attempt gonna be?

>>40301277
why would you go into a medical field(im assuming your in america) without learning ninos ratas language?

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>>40301229

>Nobel Prizes/Fields Medals

hahahaha what a fucking joke

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>The tranny thinks he can out perform me at my role of causing assmad and upsetness

>>40301296
Did 415 a few weeks, ran Smolov Jr for """"fun"""", just finished that on Sunday. Gonna attempt 435 first, then maybe 440-450 depending on that how that feels.

>>40301297
Every children's hospital worth a damn has Spanish interpreters on site. It's not a huge concern. I just wanna be able to stumble through a basic H&P and get a chief complaint by myself if I need to.

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What the fuck even is this

>>40301334
you must be very smart.

>>40301229
Arthur Avila won a Fields in 2014

>>40301345
im really just sitting here waiting for my lab partners to be so frustrated with me not doing my part that they start doing my parts for me

its worked before and I'll be damned if it wont work again

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>>40301305

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>>40301369
man mugabe is looking really bad in his older years

hello my nigs the start of candito week 5 is tomorrow for me

should i just max this week?

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>>40301305
Lol dont be so salty Trappy

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>>40301421

It is hard to avoid being salty in the sea as we are.

Still, I hope trappy is just havin' a few roffles and anon isn't actually getting her down...

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>>40301441
It's just bantz anon don't worry lmao
Even if Trappy is down she could just anally masturbate to get her spirits up

Boyyyy these olympic lifts are pretty hard to learn!

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>>40301461
iktfb

>can catch a clean rock bottom of my mobility easily
>can barely catch a heavy snatch to parallel

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R8 starting position

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>>40301421

"I can't think of a single common characteristic of nobel prize winners. Not even intelligence."

>>40301487
obvious manlet spotted.

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>>40301461

Yeah, it is so technical-- I love just watching these hookgrip videos. Lydia here has such great form, even under high-speed scrutiny, she wastes almost no motion at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQncxXAlBFE

So I did 5 squat singles at 90%ish

I recorded the last 3. First set I tried out some funky cues and it was slow and looked like shit. The second I tried just spreading my taint and sitting down not back. Last set I tried my normal squat form

Second set looked the best and was the fastest. Gonna try sitting down from now on, feels a bit awkward but not bad

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>>40301489
>developed Fermi liquid theory
>led to the development of Landau-Ginzburg theory of phase transitions
>which led to Kosterlitz-Thouless topological classification of phases of matter via defects
>Fermi's face when 2016 Nobel prize was rewarded to Kosterlitz and Thouless
Another salty Italian lmao like Mojorana.
You can't win this with me Trappy lmao. Pic related is us.

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>my coach is hopeful he can get my numbers to enough so I can last minute qualify for the american open series

>>40301497
Troll or dumb?

Fresh meme: fuck snow edition

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQO004_g_nL/


>>40301487

I'd recognize those shorts anywhere.

>>40301521
Oh, also a question: what muscular weakness causes knee cave in squats? Other than just trying to push them out what else can I do to stop caving?

I notice that if I'm grinding out a rep the moment I push my knees out the bar starts flyin up

>>40301578
How much do you squat?

>>40301581
4 pl8

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>>40301523

>nobel prize mattering

Ok Malala Yousafzai

>>40301487

>not pulling sumo

Perfect, now you only need to drop the closegrip meme and join the max+japgrip hype train.

>>40301578
Weak glutes/abductors, strong adductors, or weak primary movers overall

>>40301632
I don't think my glutes would be weak though, I pull sumo and squat lowbar. Oh well, I'll work on it anyway

>>40301632
On second thought, I probably do have adductors that overpower my abductors. Any sort of thing I can do it remedy this? Do those abductor machines have any use?

>>40301658
They can work, so do (light) bands around your knees when squatting

>>40301666
Alright, I'll try it out, thanks

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>>40301638
>>40301578

https://www.strengthandconditioningresearch.com/2012/12/28/what-causes-knee-valgus/

tl;dr: screw your feet out when pushing against the floor, wear heeled shoes, stretch your ankles.

>>40301658

It's called a "Good Girl/Bad Girl Machine" and yes, they're great. Be sure to make eye contact with people while using it.

Banded squats work too.

why is owg not a thing anymore?

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>>40301794
1) They don't have a trappy.
2) They may have elited themselves out of existence, each member drifting into solipsism. But mostly, they don't have a trappy.

>>40301696
I do all of those things, my mobility is fine. Knee cave only happens on grindy reps

>>40301712
Thanks, I'll only make eye contact with my gymbro though if he's near just to meme him doing so with other people would be embarrassing

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>>40301825
>Thanks, I'll only make eye contact with my gymbro though if he's near just to meme him doing so with other people would be embarrassing

>Not being that weird guy at your gym that does embarrassing shit but is stronger than everyone so everyone does it too because they think it's your secret technique

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Trained competition bench with jap grip last night

Felt like I had no hands and the weight was directly on my forearms

So good

>>40301850

Nailed it lad. Happy for you. Remember that "Jap grip" is Bulldog+Max width, but otherwise it's just Bulldog.

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>>40301867
I dig da bulldog

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>>40301810

I was a /owg/ poster back when it was a thing.

What killed /owg/ was wechat and elitism. The fact that most of the advise people gave there was "get a coach" also didn't help.

The general was just a chatroom for a small inside group, and when they moved on to wechat the general died.

>>40301850

Good lad.
Remember, don't listen to the "bulldog" meme. It's jap+max grip, or just jap grip.

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>>40301898
>Remember, don't listen to the "bulldog" meme. It's jap+max grip, or just jap grip.

>>40301898
>>40301921
Fight
Fight
Fight
Fight

>>40301838
I'm only stronger than everyone at the squat I'm embarrassingly weak at the bench

>>40301975

We need to stop this from being OK.

From now on I suggest we at /plg/ better our bench.

>>40301975
Rippletits claims another victim.

>>40301609
Yes yes but what about starting position

>>40302024

This is what happens when people think OHP is ok.

>>40302041
OHP is ok, it hasn't detracted from my scheduled bench gains.

>>40302059

>These delusions.

OHP is not OK, lad. Please stop, if not for yourself, then for those of us that love you.

>>40302074
Why is my second favourite lift vilified here so often? It's fun and can serve as an injury-preventing accessory with no effect on progression if programmed in correctly. Just because it's not competition doesn't make it sacrilege.

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>>40301921

OH SHIT YOU GON GET IT IMMA SH-

>>40302041

... Nevermind you're good.

>>40302027

kekk well, bar height seems nice for deficit.
I personally find it a bit too "weird" to pull with the feet so close together, but that's a personal preference really. Lots of strong pullers prefer a close stance like that.

Back looks definitely tight and flexed, extended all the way through and lats flexed back nicely. If your goal is straight back pulling, that is textbook perfect.
Hams and glutes look loaded nicely as well... your hips probably rose a bit when you started the pull, but dynamic starts aren't really a bad thing.

>>40302105

Because you could be benching instead.

>>40302118
So the only thing you have against it is that it takes time? I have plenty of time to get proper volume on bench and still do OHP.

How did you guys feel when you first started sheiko? I'm on the third week and I've been having no energy lately and my workouts are taking longer and longer. I can't tell how much of it is my depression and how much is the fatigue from the workout. I'm a few pounds heavier than when I started so I guess I'm eating enough.

>>40302146

And that it's a waste of time. My OHP has exploded since I stopped training it. My Bench has exploded since not OHP'ing. Anecdotal evidence, I know, but it's a useless lift that has little to no carryover to powerlifting imho.

>>40302152
After my first Sheiko workout (ALL) I ate an entire pizza. My vision became blurry, I was short of breath, and I couldn't maintain an erection. I woke up weighing 104.7kg with a Wilks of 443, and qualified for Nationals.

8.5/10, still hate myself but find Sheiko comfy and am stronger.

>>40302169
If you waste time having fun it's not a waste of time. I'll leave on that note.

>>40302205

That is a fantastic counter argument, to which I have no retort.

>>40302169
>TFW ohp has stayed the same despite benching way more than I used to

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>>40301609
>still salty
>conflating a Nobel in a field that the original Nobel Prize was established for with another that's created by the Jews for publicity
Trappy confirmed BTFO

>>40301609
>jap anything
Asians powerlifting haha lmaoing at their lifes

>>40302199
Do you think it's possible that I wouldn't make progress at all? That's kind of my fear right now with this program. That and injuring myself

>>40302169
I hope you seated press at least, or prepare for fucked up shoulders.

>>40302338
All part of the communist plan.

>>40302354

Face pulls, delt raises, lots of vertical and horizontal pulls.

I'm gucci.

nn evryone.

If I wanted to post form checks here for /plg/ to help, how to convert a video on the phone to webm?

Thanks a lot!

>>40300067

deadlift variations and volume can be upped in females. some males can barely handle deads 1x a week.
I have done 10 seperate females, one with 7x5 and another with 5x5 on VD, as a short example, and they did better with 7x5. the 5x5 did better once switched.
women handle more volume, generally.


the facepull superset is unnecessary and can be varied

front squat is a great alternative to RD

arms literally can be messed around with if you still do gradual overload 1kg/week or 2 weeks

having a lateral pulldown on RD with a press is very comfortable and verticle pulls are good to have (weighted pull ups, you can even just add 1kg to weighted pull ups every week or two weeks on RD and still smash ID)


women on ID end up doing better with 85%.


this is not a personal attack
this is from years of doing this.

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Oh great. The loud autist is up.

>>40301898
the advice "get a coach" was there because taking advice from transexuals on the internet who probably have never done a goddamn snatch would be absurd

>>40302458
I don't know who you are but I like you

>>40302482
I like to wind down from a long day of being a PT and train people to smoke weed and drink wine and shit post here.

Ive done this for a job for 7~ years

thats my appeal to authority, always grill me for sources unless I specify how its anecdotal experience.

Livia

Cavalcanti

>>40302508
Currently doing bear walk, glute bridge, planks and dead bugs to manage SI pain

Thoughts on this routine?

>>40302524
sounds fine, you obviously supplement with stretching and chiro visits? if not, just ask.

you should do this one exercise, forgot its name.

Lay on your stomach and breath in like youre bracing for a squat (valsalva style)

whats the MOI?

>>40302557
>chiro visits

I don't think I've ever gained respect for someone and then lost it so quickly

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>>40302458

Cool, the program you're giving your (unsolicited) opinion on is one year old. It has been used by hundreds of people, and I have trained at least a dozen with it (including women and older people).

It has been finetuned and updated at least 5 times over its lifespan.

I appreciate the (unsolicited) input, but you're saying nothing useful or that I don't already know. You're just repeating basic info and saying "ye this can be done like that as well" to appear as if you know what you're talking about.

So please, next time you're giving unsolicited opinion on something, make sure it's actually valuable and not just a waste of time for the reader.

>>40302508

>always grill me for sources

Funny, I did that back when you were arguing stupid shit and you didn't provide any.
Did you read the ones I linked you?
You should.
It's gonna help you understand better how the shoulder joint works and keep your trainees from being needlessly injured.

>>40302423

We've done a big one like that already. It had almost 100 votes among 3 general threads and the overwhelming majority was in my favour.

If you want, I can post the image.

I'd appreciate if you don't come here to cry about me anymore. Just accept that you don't know everything, and learn from others. Use sheiko as an example. No one likes a crybaby who can't admit when they're wrong.

>>40302398

search for cloudconvert

How can I hold the bar better when benching? I always feel like my wrists are being snapped back even when I wear wraps. How can I get the bar over my forearm?

>>40302565
>no one likes a crybaby who can't admit when they're wrong

Oh the irony!

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>>40302589

pic

>>40302591

Is it really ironic that I always admit when I'm wrong? I'd think that's the opposite of ironic, no?

>>40302599
>I always admit when I'm wrong

You truly live in your own alternate reality don't you?

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>>40302557
>even a non-lifting weasel DYEL doesn't respect you
How fucking pathetic do you have to be? How fucking trash must your life be that you'd actually have to make up stories on the internet in order to garner respect, and only to fail miserably? Fucking end yourself.
If I were you I would've already died long ago in my mother's womb, for I trust my mother to abort whatever disgusting, wretched piece of trash that she was about to bring to the world; and yet here you are. It seems that retardation as well as being a plague upon humanity runs through your bloodline like molasses.

>>40302565
>>40302599
Tripfags were a mistake

>>40302605
Animefags

The sigil of seanposting

>>40302589
>trappy is asking himself questions now

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>>40302604

You want me to link you all the archive posts?

Just go there and search, you'll see I have no problem at all with conceding a point.

>>40302614

>sean
>anime

How new can you be?

>>40302618

>implying

If I were to samefag a question I'd at least ask something creative and interesting.

>>40302565
look at this response you think youre an authority
this is advice you need to apply. nothing that you said even addressed how it was used, not being used, or bad.

youre still going on about how someone who can lift for years will not have an advantage over someone who has lifted to a subpar level? Just stop. What would a source look like that would satisfy you? comparing a novice teaching to a professional?

Alright. Ill go hire Sheiko, Dan Green, and many expensive powerlifters and schuck them up against a 24 hour fitness trainer, lets see who does better.
too bad such a study does not exist.

Hell, lets have some random person receive online training from both of us and lets see who propels better. Im drunk enough to agree to this.

>http://www.jstor.org/stable/1495395?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
>teachers that used their coaches less (took advice from outside) had lower student achievement

>http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3102/01623737023001057
>hose who have more education training appear to do better in producing student achievement.

>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0742051X0800200X
>graduates come to associate good practice with that of the veteran teacher, whose practice and cache of resources they seek to emulate.

you want more?

>>40302621
You literally answer the same 5 questions all day.
1.program
2.shoes
3.hold the bar
4.high bar low bar
5.snapped back

>>40302565
we never discussed a shoulder joint, what are you talking about with this skitzophrenic autobigraphical memory failure, for the third time.

>>40302621
defending that post leads me to believe you literally turned your trip off to post that.

I have more education, experience and knowledge than you. You need to calm down and take my advice and go fucking lift. You even agreed my point, the only point I made, was right.

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>>40302631

>you think youre an authority

Nice projection, coming from the person who repeats on every post how they are experienced for years and even put his job in the name field. Fucking kek

> this is advice you need to apply. nothing that you said even addressed how it was used, not being used, or bad

You gave zero advise. You just repeated common knowledge and said "x can also be done instead of y" which is useless because there is no point in changing y for x.

>youre still going on about how someone who can lift for years will not have an advantage over someone who has lifted to a subpar level?

That was never the argument. I had confirmed that your point #1 and #3, which dealt with experience, were right. The problem is that you included a false and illogical argument #2, which made your whole criticism fall apart.

The problem is that you fail to see that experience doesn't come just from lifting

Also, I'm a pretty decent lifter for my country and weightclass, if I may say so myself. With a silver medal, even

>more?

I want one relevant citation, please.

>>40302643

Oh, you seem to be mistaken.
The discussion you came in that day was about the shoulder joint. Guess what, turns out I was correct and backed up with over 10 citations

>inb4 you say you didn't even know I was arguing about shoulders

Then why did you come in to argue with me in the first place? Insecurity about your own experience?

>>40302658

>defending that post leads me to believe you literally turned your trip off to post that.

Don't worry, I'm not insecure like you.

>I have more education, experience and knowledge than you

Hahaha, now that's something! Don't try to get in a dick measuring contest with me boyo, you'll regret it.

>You even agreed my point was right

No. I agreed that half of your point was right, but the other part had no logic to it and was easily proven false. So I proved it false. Since your entire argument depended on that point, the entire thing fell apart.

>>40302691
I told said openly my job is an appeal to authority and what evidence was anecdotal.

>You gave zero advise
I said it was a great alternative since back squatting into the sunset, forward lean creeps around.
hence the word "alternative"


>You just repeated common knowledge
thats literally, all that you do. do I even need to reply to the rest?

this is your criticism?

that I do what you do?

this is territorial. you're like a stray cat. Aww. :3

I helped you once in a QT-XXXXX whatever the noob question thread is called, and you took advice very easily.

Now youve boxed yourself in.


>I want one relevant citation, please.
Define. Relevant.
Those were all relevant to teaching ability.

>Don't worry, I'm not insecure like you.
and you response to criticism with open discussion and non-hostility is a reflection of that.


>No. I agreed that half of your point was right, but the other part had no logic to it and was easily proven false. So I proved it false. Since your entire argument depended on that point, the entire thing fell apart.

1. Someone who does X once, will have an advantage over someone who has never done X

2. Someone who does X to a professional level for years will have an advantage over someone who does it once

you realize these statements are the same?

2X > X

99X>2X

>>40302691
>The problem is that you fail to see that experience doesn't come just from lifting

I never established anything against that

ever

e v e r
v
e
r

>>40302691
I read your guide

good info to spread

how long did it take to copy paste, did you take photos or was it from a pdf torrent?

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>>40302782
>>40302772
>>40302748
stop wasting your time dude

no one on this board thinks he's anything but a mentally ill larping retard who gives either regurgitated or blatantly wrong advice

also he won't stop posting long after proven wrong, watch him start posting a bunch of gay shit to make you give up

>>40299154

one thing i've noticed with centaurs is that they would get big legs regardless of their programming. they just have centaur genetics

you see some people squatting 5pl8s with tiny ass legs, and people squatting 2pl8s with massive ones

the only thing you can do is stop training legs

good luck

>>40302805
I have to sleep anyway, Ill try my best to disprove but its really like someone is reading out a textbook and claiming messiah

its respectable the time and effort spent into learning, but Id like to say that this person has now reached the top of the dunning kruger self efficacy and competance curve

I am here to bring trappy down

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>>40302782

Around two days of writing from scratch ;) glad you could learn something

>>40302772

>I never established anything against that

You're really gonna make me open the archive? sigh

>2. someone who does lateral raises "very well" and has experience will do lateral raises "better" than someone who has only done lateral raises once
>2. someone who does X very well and has experience will do something better than someone who has only done X once

Here you're clearly implying that there's no other way of learning how to X besides doing X.

Which is why your entire argument is meaningless - it's easy to prove you wrong.

>>40302748

>I told said openly my job is an appeal to authority

No one in /plg/ consider PTs to be authorities lmao. Try getting a job as a coach instead.

>hence the word "alternative"

Aka not needed. Just a pointless, meaningless (unsolicited) suggestion.

>thats literally, all that you do

Citation needed.

>this is territorial. you're like a stray cat

Nice projection lmao.

>I helped you once in a QT-XXXXX whatever the noob question thread is called, and you took advice very easily

What are you even talking about?

>Those were all relevant to teaching ability.

We were never arguing about teaching ability.
Your argument is that in order to know how to do X, someone has do experience X.
Which is a stupid argument, we both know that. That's why you've been trying to change goal posts for so long.

>>40302819

>I am here to bring trappy down

HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Good luck, honestly. You're gonna need it.

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Btw, since I'm bored.

Pic related is my OC.
At the time it was made, there was no other source on the general internet discussing the specific details and movement of the lats in the deadlift. (a few months after the pic our good friend Nuckols made a big article involving it and adding more thoughts to it)

I stand by everything written there.

Try to scrutinise it and find any mistakes or inaccuracies. This is a challenge to you HonestPT.
Or, dare I say, learn from it.

btw, this also directly disproves whatever you said about my posts being copy pasta or beginner only or whatever.

Pain in patella when i squat, any fixes to this?

>>40302959
Get a new petalla or stop squatting

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>>40302962
thx

>>40302959
lower weight
go deeper
angle feet out more
narrower stance
keep knees back above toes

>>40302962
lol

>>40302565
>search for cloudconvert

Thanks. Tho the videos come out huge, how can i squeeze them in 4mb

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>>40302959

First thing is to identify which issue you're having.

What is the location of the pain? "Behind" and around the patella itself?

>>40302995
in the front of the knee, feels good to massage it between sets. Feels like inflammation.

>>40302973
>lower weight
REEEEE
>go deeper
Pretty much ATG
>angle feet out more
about 30 degree stance cant physically go wider with a narrow stance
>narrower stance
Stance is narrow
>keep knees back above toes
Hard to do with ATG narrow squat.

>>40302839
>No one in /plg/ consider PTs to be authorities lmao
Eh, to me it depends on the PT's education.

>>40303050
>>keep knees back above toes
>Hard to do with ATG narrow squat.
sounds like tight hips

also I'm sure you're nowhere close to atg

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>>40303064
Last weeks front squats, didn't record today's SSB back squats.

>>40302871
Yuo are so smrt and beatiful :)

>>40302839
You need to get laid dude

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>>40301556
get one of these, jacques.

>>40303153
that round back and forward knee, yeah bro your hips are tight as fuck

your glutes need to be sticking out behind your lower back. Think about letting them fold out to the side, like you're literally driving your asshole into the ground

>>40303247
How to fix tight hips?

>>40303247
>driving asshole into the ground
my favorite

but is there some good hip stretches i could try?

>>40303309
>>40303321

it could be a flexibility issue but usually hip flexibility isn't restrictive in the squat(if you go ATG and don't usually stretch them it certainly could be, though). I think it's more of a form issue, what really helped me was focusing on the obliques near my lower back, this will draw your glutes back, up and to the side and allow you to really "sit" into the squat. You want to think of glutes less as pushing you up and more as pulling, if that makes any sense.

hip flexibility can def make things easier and more comfortable, there are two types stretches for the hip flexor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQmpO9VT2X4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mjBaLVlQWw
especially the second one is very useful for squat.

Stretching glutes and the obvious hamstrings might help as well.

>>40302839
>No one in /plg/ consider PTs to be authorities lmao. Try getting a job as a coach instead.
Stop speaking for /plg/ when clearly half of the people here despise you.

>>40303394
>only half
quite generous

>>40302995
You should identify some of your problems estrogen-man!.
Actually if you just jumped in front of a train that would be fine too!

Could you help with these form checks?
I know /fit/ hates compressor tights in the gym, but please try to overlook that.

1: https://vid.me/AV0G
2: https://vid.me/rGFk

Sorry for the shitty angles, the phone is leaning against a pipe.

Haven't been here in a few months, where is benchbro? has joffrey or dreamer came back yet? Anyone heard anything from joffrey? is he still training for pl?

>>40303509
you're so short u may as well do sumo

>>40302995
post arsehole

Best stretches to allow me to highbar squat with a wider stance without feelings restricted?

>>40302557
holy shit you are a cunt, chiros wtf

>>40303526
Is 5'11'' too short?

>>40303584
anything under 6'2 is short

What is a cool early intermediate routine, aside from TM

>>40303628
Madcow

>>40303628
my ass.

Very slowly coming out of my depression

>>40303606
keep telling yourself that manlet

>>40303636
Need some more volume I think. Tried madcow, ended up stalling on everything.

I'm squishing out these squishy little direaha turds out of my butthole right now, not as satisfying as regular logs that's for sure

>>40303763
No one cares Dino go fuck yourself

>>40303529
I second this notion
>>40303525
Benchbeta is working at a prison or s

>>40303525
Benchbeta is working at a prison i think and still drives babbyautomatic as far as I know

>>40302839
>learning how to X besides doing X.
You sure like talking about X's but what you're forgetting is that you still have Y's, specifically XY

>"sorry i missed this"
NO YOU FUCKING DIDNT YOU SAW IT TWO DAYS AGO AT 7:44PM IM NOT FUCKING DUMB

Might do mock meet next week

How long should I take between rep attempts?

>>40304219
10 minutes.

Going to embrace my inner GDE and stop trying to make weekly linear progression work and jump on 5/3/1.

Should make me mentally more happy.

>>40304219
5-10 minutes or whenever you feel rested.

I hate bench so much. I am a benchlet and I do that Jap form bench, max grip, cheating arch and my bench just never improves.

My OHP is relatively stronger but it progresses so slowly god damn it

>tfw not having fun
I thought picking up weights was suppose to be fun

>>40304444
How do you expect to get better at something you cheat at?

>>40304461
Cheaters always win

Is there a way to make Cable crunches work with just Bands?They feel like I can use my bodyweight too much. I have a Home gym so no cables. I like to include some Abs in my warmup and im looking for more pl specific ways to improve them

>>40304494
Do better ab exercises

Leg raises
Planks
L sits
Ab rollouts

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>>40303525

Joff is doing Project Momentum

>>40303628

Candito LP
BLEST early-intermediate
28 free programs (nuckols)
Sheiko beginner (slightly more advanced than the others, if you're not competing do only the first week of the comp cycle)
Starr's Model
TM or TM Splits http://imgur.com/a/l54a1

>>40304444

S H E I K O
H
E
I
K
O

Or any program with very high volume and low-intensity.

>>40303529

http://vocaroo.com/i/s12QDFKTMW2A

>>40303394

Sometimes I forget /plg/ is mostly newfriends now.

>>40302974

Lower the bitrate.

>>40303050

Sounds like patellofemoral pain syndrome.

First thing to mention is, PFPS is still kind of a mystery when it comes to its causes (we have a few good hypothesis but nothing entirely conclusive so far).
Which means, the treatment for it is in general conservative (lots of resting).

The first thing is, PFPS may have been caused by overuse. In this case, you need some rest first. Same things apply from the inflammation recommendations: heat, immobilization, rest for a week or so, fish/krill oil.

One of the most important parts to getting rid of PFPS is strengthening the quad muscles. And we have to do so in a way that does not trigger you pain.
Here's what I suggest:
- Bulgarian Split Squats (3/4 of the focus)
- Highbar squats ECCENTRIC-only (1/4 of the focus)
You can use tape or braces to help stabilize your knee

Another part is avoiding things that make the symptoms worse.
For example, avoid:
- Sitting with bent knees for a long time
- Highbar/lowbar/front squatting

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>>40304550
>Sometimes I forget /plg/ is mostly newfriends now
Is this an implication that you aren't one of them?

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>>40304577

le isley is the only person who isn't a newfriendo meme

>>40304550
>Sometimes I forget /plg/ is mostly newfriends now.

Le strawman to avoid admitting that most of plg hates you

>>40304577
nigga 8 going on 82

>>40304550
maybe you should take a look at the reason why "/plg/ is mostly newfriends now"
hmmm what could be driving all of the oldfriends away?

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>>40304653
>>40304609

3/10 need more work on creativity and better lure wiggling.

cant decide whether i should buy myself another burrito or just cook something
i think my own cooking might be worse for me given how much oil i use, burritos aren't that unhealthy right?

>>40304698
Not even bait, just disappointed in you that you still trip even though you're killing this general like you killed owg

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>>40304707

hahahahah

getting better 6/10

start mentioning names or events that didn't actually happen or are chronologically wrong in order to make me actually respond.

>>40304720
Le "I'm not even falling for bait meme"

>/plg/ is now just 90% people arguing with Trappy
ah yes, big fan of trips, they add so much to the conversation

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>>40304743

cmooon put some effort in! You can do it, I promise I'll bite gently~

>>40304494
Do them standing with bands. Hook them on your rack.
Look it up on youtube if in doubt. Pretty sure Wenning, Tate, or EliteFTS has a vid or two on it.

>>40304752
90% of trip posting is trappy tho

tripfags will be killed at dawn

Asked about accessory work on Nuckols the other day, is it worth doing ab work like weighted crunches or anything else I guess calf work wouldn't hurt? , if so how often?

M
Squat 2x8, 1x8+
Bench 2x8, 1x8+
DL
Curls 2x10

W
Squat 2x6, 1x6+
Bench 2x6, 1x6+
Dips 2x10
Rows 2x10

F
Squat 2x4, 1x4+
Bench 2x4, 1x4+
OHP 2x10
Weighted Pull-ups 2x10

To my fellow project memers should I do my amrap based off my 1rm or e1rm. My estimated is about 20 lbs more for my squat and dead

>>40304757
Should i be worried if one of my knees crackles when i squat?

What's more effective for strength off the floor, deficits or paused diddys?

>>40305150
Deficits obviously

>>40305150
I think both are good. Pauses are better if you can't get in a good position off a deficit like myself. Just make sure you pause like an inch off the floor

>>40305150
Whichever you need.

Pick one to do for a month. If it doesn't do you well, then do the other.

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WAWTT?

3x5 Paused SQ
3x5 CGBP
4x5 Row
DB Press
Lats

>>40305230
being sick x f
fever x 38.8 C
kill me x 1

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Reminder that frog will be the first person to squat 3.4x bw in plg and hes still a teen

8 hour arm workout hype for Saturday

Hoping I can go from 16" to 17"
>the answer is obviously no

Should be fun tho lel

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>>40304757
>cmooon put some effort in! You can do it, I promise I'll bite gently~
Either ignore your critics, or show some humility and agree to disagree.

You act like a spoiled child.

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>>40305249
>getting sick
>ever
what's it like to be a GDE

can someone post trappys 4 day UL split program