/fraud/ steroids general

first for 8 iu of hgh 5/2 or 6iu ed?

Where can i get a source and what is a good beginner routine when starting steroids?

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>>40290315
might as well throw in insulin to increase the uptake of nutrients so this bulk is nothing but building large swaths of muscle as quickly as the roids can take you.

>>40290367
i don't want that disgusting insulin look though, just all the benefits of HGH since running it is basically it is a "why not" kind of thing at this point for me

>>40290381
ah duh your going for lean mean not built cut kinda look or whatever that means.

any roids on top of that ? i know you where saying something about blasting the rest of your tren then blasting and cruising test e with other random compounds.

>>40290423
on 860 tren e 250 test e, started 30mg sdrol today with 1.5 tudca

i also got sick today. lol. sore throat and chills, fever, the usual.

>>40290447
how dat dere sdrol ? i assumed that higher tren means higher quality of life also. when ya start this cycle and hows the gains in ze gym.

i droped most of supplements and andros except for my homemade skin care and dhea mixed in to make a transdermal. that and im blasting 2grams of DIM for anti estrogen affects and my DMAA laden diet pills for fasting.

lost 6lbs since last whensday and major bloat reductions from the high DIM content.

>>40290523
gains are coming at a retarded rate especially strength wise

it is hard to tell how the sdrol is working because I went to bed and woke up sick as hell and really just want to lie in bed all day.

I took 30mg, went to sleep for 2 hours while I waited for it to kick in before I worked out (half life is 7 hours apparently). When I woke up I was getting pumps in every random muscle just from contracting it slightly

I worked arms, the pumps were painful. Like it sort of felt how the crippling shin pumps feel except in my arms.

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>>40290329
>Yeah, I've heard people say to switch up rep ranges as a bodybuilder , new stimuli.
>I think maybe for a new Lifter the best thing is just a shitload of volume though, honestly, and a higher rep range helps.
I agree on both counts. Let me add though that as a new lifter you should also do something physical other than lifting. The Russians figured out back in the 70s that for performance you should not specialize too early, and that people with an athletic background of general sports training always did better than those with just a weight training (or other specialized)background. You'll be healthier for it if you do something as simple as play basketball a couple times a week or train MMA. I'd say even for bodybuilding you should do this, at least as a natty. When hormones get involved the story changes as far as growth.

>Interesting, dude. I thought that was ideal for strength training, you are just training the nervous system? So why not do low rep range huge weights and little volume?
An effective strength training regimen will involve physical conditioning of all factors involved with strength. Maximum effort (one rep maxes) speed strength (75-85% done as explosively as possible), strength endurance. (continuous motion, think ohp with an empty barbell for 100 reps. Tis is primarily restorative in nature but also builds work capacity) and muscle development and hypertrophy. This is where most of the training will be performed, in your traditional sort of set/rep scheme of 8-12 reps for however many sets is appropriate to tire your muscle. This is basically bodybuilding but with exercise selection geared to attacking weak points and building the prime movers in general.

You have to understand that you can only go so fsr with just neuromotor impulse. There needs to be well developed muscle and connective tissue in order to move weight. Big people are stronger than smaller people. If this wasn't the case, there would be no weight classes.

>>40290523
>higher tren means higher quality of life
Sure. If you like not being able to breathe, constant irrational anger and paranoia, inability to sleep and sweating. So much sweating.

>>40290609
>constant irrational anger and paranoia,
i can control the anger easily but everything else gets annoying

and i can sleep but i wake up literally every 20 minutes or so

>>40290300
Kys tripfag.
And the Romans werent Nordic. Rekt.

About a month into my cruise and holy shit is my acne bad - cystic shit all over my neck and chest, even though I'm on minocycline. How should I proceed? I've dropped my ai to 6.25 asin e3d on 200mg test/week, for what it's worth, so I might bump that up and see what happens.

>>40290639
accutane

>>40290643
yah googled it and your mostly right to nuke it and be done with it regardless of the sides.

>>40290572
Sdrol is crazy kek.
But I get lethargic as fuck on it, and the gains usually peace out quick once you stop.
Did you order black tops?

>>40290661
Didn't order yet but I emailed him to do so

And yeah black tops. I heard (not sure on this but seems to be the consensus) that greys are if anything slightly underdosed right now, while blacks are overdosed.

It is hard to gauge the sdrol lethargy for me because I am sick, and on 860 fucking tren. So if it is making me feel shitty even with my liver of steel + 1.5g tudca, I can't notice it compounded with all this other bullshit.

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>>40290609
>not being able to breathe

thats the worse one honestly fucko dat shito

>>40290635
i littealy posted that for aestetics but gotcha i dont know how much populations change over thousands of years but im certain /pol/ is retarded on that fact that some realy do belive in that.

Will steroids improve my mood and energy?

I'm a firefighter in a big city, when on shift I pretty much never get a good night of sleep. I worked yesterday and today for example my mood and energy levels are shit. I'm wondering if I taking a moderate dose of test would help this

Should I just go get my levels checked and then evaluate from there?

>>40290643
Is UG accutane legit/safe?

The country I'm in is very anti-AAS and I'm worried they will start asking too many question if I go in to get it checked out.

>>40290704
I have noticed that I get only a little more out of breath, but it is impossible to actually breathe because of how it constricts your lungs. So I am breathing at almost the same rate but it is fucking hard as hell to do so

>>40290609
and going to jail

>>40290711
if you dont have a shitty lab, i used ugl and it worked fine

>>40290707
Too much rons can make you lethargic and sleepy.
medical doses of test could improve though, get it tested and see where you're at

>>40290718
maybe if you are a fag with no self control

>>40290727
I'm mostly just interested in taking test nothing else really.

I'm sure I say that now but when I get on I'll want to try other stuff though

>>40290688
I havent ordered international in years and now I'm nervous as fuck to order. I just keep googling stories of package intercepted stings.
I might just order the domestic out of fear. but much more money :(

>>40290727
anything other than meth to reverse that or something to fix the underlying reason?

>>40290745
he says he offers 100% reship since the 0-3 customs are no trouble apparently, so i am not TOO worried

it's probably different from ordering raws and shit i guess?

If Im a naturally thiccccc 5'7''let, should I just run EQ instead of Test?

Disclosure: Im currentl running Test

>>40290758
I take adderal kek but have been prescribed it for years. it helps. I'm also outta shape atm.
>>40290770
I just have a good job now, and if I lose my licence I am done for life.
>3 kits cost $405 international
>3 kits domestic is $585
just fuck my wallet up. god damn i am conflicted

Ive had constant muscle twitches on the inside of my right knee for 3 days. Now Im getting some in my left quad.

Is this a potassium deficiency or something, or just general muscle fuckery?

>>40290704
One trip to the doc got me scripts for singulair and lisinopril. Makes tren/sdrol stack way easier on the body, can't recommend enough.

>>40290745
International is safe af if you use a good source. They don't wanna have to reship you hundreds of dollars of what I'm assuming is GH.

>>40290770
>>40290798

Says he doesn't even require a signature

I don't know I mean everyone does it. I wouldn't worry even if I got seized since I am only ordering personal use quantities. I would never order raws though, I would rather just spend the money instead of possibly being fucked by "intent to distribute" or whatever

>>40290877
Yep GH. That's a good point. 100% reship policy = they must have retarded success rate or they would lose money

>>40290876
potassium and Taurine tend to help that out but not always sure fire since salt imbalance and other micro nutrients could be the cause of it.

>>40290877
nice thanks bro.

>>40290300
So lads, I'm running 700mg tren a, around 600test e a week and 80 mg anavar ed for these last 6 weeks of cycle, nut I got way pudgier than I expected the first 6 weeks (no var and dbol at 40 ed firs month), heres a couple ideas I'm thinking of.
1. if I drop cals to maintenance do you think I could keep growing while losing some chub
2. would it be safe to run some clen with this stack
3. should I kill myself
4.should I just shred anyway

I'm going to England after PCT and travelling Euro from there, it'll be pretty hard to get gear I'm guessing and hard to get to gyms constantly, and I want to repopulate the white race whilst I'm there, so maybe shredding up would work, but I hate the thought of wasted gains

>>40290798
>>40290893
Even if your shit gets siezed no one will ever come after a personal gear buyer. It's just not a thing that happens.

>>40290897
I think it could be the Taurine. totaly forgot to stock up before my cycle and havent had any back pumps so it sorta slipped my mind.

Anyone tried going to doc for adex when on course?
How much is a box usually?

Just did my first injection first cycle (fat loss focus)
Running test e until.i can get down 20-30 lbs do i csn hit 18% bf. How long of a break before i do 2nd cycle (muscle building focus)

>>40290907
Doesn't your address/name get flagged for extra scrutiny in the future though or am I making this up

...Anonymous
02/06/17(Mon)23:22:34 No.40290895
Been taking 400mg test c pinning 200 tues and 200 Thursday. I've been taking it since dec 1st and saw minimal gains.

What do I do

>>40290905
>all that gear
>adding Clen
Damn son.

Id say drop the Test dose and keep at the var, or drop the var and add Epi and still lower the Test a bit, or sub the Test for EQ :)))

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>>40290877
RIght but that won't stop customs from poking around and setting up a nice sting.
Jesus I sound old and paranoid. And yeah gh.
This coming from a guy who has ordered thousands of dollars domestic and international. I just have a career to uphold now.
I've read stories of genza getting orders seized where they set up a sting, and I've ordered from that lab dozens of times

>>40290920
you're a fucking retard

>>40290922
have you considered lifting and eating properly

>>40290920
wtf...

>>40290927
he is right no one is coming after your personal use quantities. ordering fuckloads of raws would be different though.

I am just worried about my address getting "flagged" or something but it isn't gonna get held up anyway so whatever

>>40290936
I lift 6 days a week and eat properly

>>40290939
well you're either lying or your shit is bunk

I'm going with lying

>>40290905
First of all get your goals in line.
You won't be happy if you load up on all these rons and still have a gut. I know from experience.
Drop everything and make a clear direction to lose fat, then concentrate on growing lean.
This will pay off in the long run.
>>40290907
Ugh I know you're right I'm just being a pussy.
>>40290921
This can be true, and especially if you get flagged with western union.
.
I suppose 30 vials of gh isn't too crazy?
A lot of the time I read about seizers is like OMG 600 PILLS OF STEROIDS
When it's like a lot of low dose winis and anti estros, clen. Those pills can add up. A lot of the time they look at quantity

>>40290939
or you need to up the workout volume and food
either way
>>40290956
this is more likely

>>40290956
Can you die tonight

>>40290921
There doesn't seem to be a definitive answer for this anywhere. I did a fuckton of research before my first int order back when I was really green. Consensus was "maybe" for future international shipments but it wouldn't affect your domestic mail scrutiny.

>>40290927
There is always a risk, albeit veeeery small.

>>40290977
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/2r80lh/cycle_report_first_cycle_results_dboltest_a_bit/

found your reddit

>>40291010
every time

>>40290926
Unfortunately I already paid for it all, so I'm not really ready to buy more gear, I know I should've thought it through better but I was in japan when I ordered it all and my mind wasnt at 100%, thanks for the advice bro, clens probably too much

>>40290959
I get you but is there time with 6 weeks left?
I know I could cut pretty hard without losing much/any muscle with this much gear, but with 6 weeks should I just slowly cut all 6?

>>40291010
bantz/10 made me lol

>>40290959
You are a namefag I don't know, but you seem cool, do you have any pics so I know how to judge your advice?

>>40291010

Got the pics for this?

>>40291010
As someone who is natty this shit is hilarious. Wish I could see his pics

>>40290920
I would save it, go get some clen, then use steroids when you intend to use them correctly, they aren't a weight loss supplement man, you'll save yourself some money

>>40291046
>>40291047
>>40291041
>>40291021
here is a different one but with pics

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/2jj6d7/6_week_progress/

lol

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>>40291065
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

>>40291065
i dont read reddit enough but im guessing most of the posts where positive reinforcement instead of insulting constructive advice like we have here.

>>40291065
HHAHAHA holy shit how the fuck do you roid to that

I have so much more confidence in my cycle now. I look better than him mid cycle as a long time natty fatlet. sweet christ how.

On a side note, glands have you ever actually posted a pic of your progress considering your daily blogposting?

>>40291087
yes but only in non-fraud threads with my trip off

never not been called out for roids when i do so, so yea

havent done so in a while tho

What's up with all these redditors hoping on when they deadlift 200lb

>Tfw deadlift 530 natty and still feel I could progress another 100 lbs or so without taking anything

>>40291097
What's your height/weight bruss

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>>40291105
found a pic of him. he thought he could get away with 5 second drop and delete but nope.

>>40291098
>le strength meme
nobody cares fatty

>>40291097
I feel it.

Im a couple weeks away from adapting a Trip myself. Seeing as the manlet trips have abadoned /fraud/, this 5'7'' king is about to take the title back.

Ive been pretty frustrated with you in the past but I like you a lot more now. Not that you care or have any reason to.

Keep on keeping on

>>40291122
That is most definitely a picture of MasT

>>40291065
Fuck me I really hope these aren't the people leaving anecdotes on sst.

Hate to say it but maybe we oughta make a private subreddit/what'sapp for anecdotes and sourcetalk. I can't believe these might be the people commenting on tren quality that I actually listen to.

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>>40291123
Not that fat desu

Are you weaker than a natty tho?

>>40291105
5'2 110lbs 30% bf

>>40291145
Mirin

>>40291135
If you look at the comments ou can see a lot of people shitting on him. I stand by /r/roids is good, but sourcetalk is still PRIME. Great dudes there and great sources. Plenty of /fraud/ crossover as well

>>40291140
Gross

>>40291140
>natty

lol who wouldve guessed
You sure showed us

Does /fraud/ BC or cycle?
Anyone get sperm frozen?
Anyone worry about lmaonokids!!1!!11!?

>>40291164
>showed you

Just showed that I'm not fat. Are you one of those guys with a 200 lb deadlift? Can't figure out why you're mad

>>40291152
There's a couple cunts over there I trust. I try and do my part by trying new guys and giving real feedback. If you ever see kahuna with some numbers as the name post there it's me. Yes it sucks Jano never posts here anymore. He looking big af too last time I talked to him.

>>40291140
put in a couple years of work or hop on the roids i see potential

>>40291181
lmao

>>40291180
Nice brah, Ill look out for you when Im lurking deep. Jano posts reasonably often over there.

I dont completely remember your whole story but I went to rehab as a kid-teen and did oxys/coke for a long time. Basically building back up the pas two years, also with a rich GF, but mines not gonna work out cause shes a gains goblin.

Keeeep on keeeping on

>>40291043
I was a very frequent many years ago. Took a few year hiatus now since I'm about to jump back into blasting and gh, I'm diddling back here more.
I'll post pics tmrw. I'm in bed famalam. night bros

>>40291233
Night cozy T

>>40291180
You australian brah?

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>21
>~14%
>A year

So, I'm pretty into lifting, currently going 4 times a week, still pretty DYEL but maybe sliding into ottermode, and my lifts are increasing so that's neat. My sister's fiance did some cycles when he was doing MMA years ago and it got him jacked. He said it makes it so you can go to the gym everyday, and not feel a lot of atrophy afterwards. Is this true? He's got a line for a cycle that would cost about 800 bucks, is that a good deal? If I did one cycle and worked out and ate well the entire duration what results could I see? Could I get 1 year of natty lifting in 1 cycle of roids?

Thanks lads.

>>40291260
you couldn't follow the very simple instructions in the op

read the wiki

or kill yourself

>>40291260
What is he getting for 800 m80, you don't even know what your buying?

>>40291260
Yea u get amazing recovery

800 for a cycle of what?

Yes 1 year results in a 3 month basic cycle is easily acheivable if your diet and training is solid

>>40291260
Unless youre getting a blowjob and your house vacuumed youre about $600 off at least from your first cycle reasonable price

>>40291260
>$800
Holy shit no. You're getting scammed HUGE

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>>40290300
Should I only start roiding after lifting for a while?

What's wrong with roiding right at the beginning of getting /fit/ and increasing the rate of progress from the get go?

>>40291276
Nope, but he's got ample experience and I trust him, so yea.

>>40291280
That's good to hear. Don't know, and that's also good to hear.

>>40291288
Well he wants to get some for both of us, and he said it would be about 2400 for two cycles, but he makes a fuck-ton more money than me so he'd pay for more.

>>40291350
kill yourself

>>40291345
You don't know how to lift, and you don't know how to diet. You can't just roid up and get gains, the roids can rapidly excel your gains if you already know what you're doing.

>>40291350
You should definitely ask what youre buying, the specifics, it does definitely feel like too much for a begginer cycle

>>40291345
You don't know anything about training or dieting for one

>>40291354
Constructive, I like it.

>>40291364
Yea he did say it would last a while. I'll look into it some more. Thanks anon.

>>40291350
If I had to guess then hes probably going for Test/Tren and maybe Deca for cycle, with Pharma AI on hand and HCG/reg shit for PCT

In other words an advanced cycle.

A beginners cycle is like 75 for test, 30 -60 for AI, 30-40 for PCT

>>40291401
or more likely he is gonna pocket a fuckload of money and just give him testosterone LOL

>>40291401
Thanks for the info anon, I appreciate it.

>>40291401
yeah, even a 6 compounds blast with full pharma ancillaries isn't going to run you twelve hundred goddamn dollars

he's getting scammed because he couldn't do 5 minutes of research and you're enabling his retardation

>>40290907
Even if they come, claim you don't know the contents of the package and it was a mistaken order. You order legal supplements but the contents of that package are some kind of error.

They can't nail you on anything. Bitcoin leaves no paper trail

>>40291405
Yeah my sister's fiance who makes 250k a year is gonna bamboozle me out of a couple 100 bucks.

>>40291414
this

i am paying less for months of fucking running 8 ius of hgh than he is for test

>>40291363
>>40291368
What if I were to have a pretty good theoretical understanding of lifting and dieting, but simply hadn't gone through the process myself?

I've browsed fitness forums for years, /fit/ for like 3 or 4 years, I know the sticky by heart, and I used to work out a bit when I was a teenager.

Is there a problem if I just start blasting immediately?

>>40291422
ok so fuck off and do it then

>>40291425
what if its 100IUs ED of GH as the only thing in the cycle ?

im certain that would cause some massive sides and growth no doubt with an assload of food needed.

>>40291426
Dude are you trolling?

That's like saying 'Well I have a pretty good theoretical understanding of a jump shot. If I walk on to Kentucky University this fall, shouldn't I be able to drain 3's and make the team?

You think your muscles were paying attention to all those articles and youtube vids? God damn.

>>40291426
Yeah. Theory != Practice

And you have zero habits set up.

But please, go ahead and do it anyway. Post results

>>40291426
there is already a problem with you if you have somehow (which is bullshit) browsed fitness forums for years and don't work out...

>>40291414
Yeah I haven't done much research other then what they do and what the side effects are. I also misspoke in the original post. It's not one cycle, he said it would be for at least a couple years if I wanted to keep doing it.

>>40291422
Don't listen to those anons they're just trolling you.

I paid $1450 for my first cycle so you're actually getting a pretty good deal imo

>>40291443
Lol I have a pretty good understanding of how to throw a football maybe the Pats with trade Garappalo and pick me up off FA

>>40291435
I mean I'm already willing to throw down the cash, I was more curious about the experience of doing a cycle and what it does for you physically as well as mentally. No bullshit experiences from anonymous /fit/izens.

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>>40291443
>>40291446
>>40291449
I work out 3 or 4 times / week doing some improvised faggot brosplit, and I actually eat pretty clean, but I'm a bit of an alcoholic so my phisique never improves.

If I were to stop drinking and start juicing, wouldn't that jumpstart my progression?

>>40291486
No, the steroids which are designed to help you get big would uniquely make you not as big. You should keep drinking alcohol instead of roids because thatll help more.

>>40291486
Just fuck off

>>40291486
I mean, you should be seeing gains even with alcohol consumption (unless it's a fuckton of beer I guess). But yes, if you stopped drinking and started roiding, you'd see a lot of improvement

>>40291462
the fact that theres no reality show dedicated towards that is sicking, they could have that show for 1 football postion at a time, then have them fight to be last man standing before going to the combine.

world never make it though just like american ninja warriors aint got shit.

>>40291499
>>40291500
>>40291507
I'm legitimately asking if roids already require significant physical fitness and muscular development to be effective, or if you can just start roiding from the beginning without problems.

I lack discipline, and require motivation, so seeing some decent results in a relatively short amount of time would probably keep me motivated and off the booze.

>>40290300
Dude who had 357ng/dL total t and pinned yesterday. I feel the most relaxed, and have a sense of well being I haven't experienced in months, it's kinda shocking being able to relax after being so used to constant mini panic attacks all day long.


Is this placebo or does test work this quickly?

>>40291560
worked that quickly for me, i frontloaded a fuckload though

>>40291546
Then you're lifting for the wrong reasons dude.

>>40291546
no, steroids will always work and will always make your progress faster than if you were natty, even if you're lifting and dieting like a retard. knowing how to diet and lift will obviously improve your results by orders of magnitude, though.

it's not recommended because
1) muh joints
2) if you haven't been lifting that long, you most likely haven't been researching roids that long either and you're going to fuck it up
3) you're going to get memed with
>roiding for this

>>40291607
if he gets 0 progress natty he will get 0 progress with roids barring low T

look at all those reddit posts. retards bragging about benching 1 plate "for volume" after running test and tren...

>>40291607
what price ranges are we talking about here? No sources, just general price ranges for monthly stock.

>>40291606
Some people lift to fuck sloots, some people lift to get back at their ex, some people lift to overcompensate for being a manlet/dicklet, some people lift because they like being mired...

Pretty much everyone lifts for reasons that can be viewed as wrong.

>>40291620
i brag about 2 plates and even i know thats weak as shit.

for fuck sakes how do these people not kill themselves when they realize how fucking dumb they are. change your shit fix your imbalances and find the goals your after always read and write your shit down for tracking.

>>40291633
Tfw you lift for noble reasons

Feels good man

>>40291641
literally injecting fucking steroids (especially TREN) to be weaker than teenage females

>>40291633
how about you find a source and look that up for yourself

and do your research while you're at it so you don't end with tits, an exploding heart and 240/120 bp

>>40291647
My reasons are just as shitty as anyone else's: egotism. I was given a god-tier frame and superior facial aesthetics, but also a tendency towards crippling addiction, so I never became the prometheus engineer type I should have been for years now.

>>40291633
except starting steroids to cure an alcohol addiction is the most retarded shit i have ever heard

>>40291693
>so I never became the prometheus engineer type I should have been for years now.
>should have been

lol mommys poor baby isn't special afterall :(((

yes i would like fries with that btw.

god i hate these faggots

>>40291700
555-come-on-now, this is /fit/ there's significantly more retarded shit in here on an hourly basis

>>40291620
yup and tell yourself that he would have never even come close to that without the roids

>>40291735
except he could have made many times the progress in the same time frame without roids if he knew what the fuck he was doing without also fucking up his health and wasting money in the process?

>>40291748
but now you're moving the goalposts

shit diet + shit training + roids > shit diet + shit training + no roids

that's it. if he "knew what the fuck he was doing," he could have also used roids to speed up those hypothetical natty gains by factors of 10.

>fucking up his health
lmao

>>40291764
>playing mental gymnastic word games to defend trenning to bench 1 plate

kill yourself

>>40291776
there are no "mental gymnastics" here. you argued against something I've been saying since the first post, were wrong, got called out for moving the goalposts and now you're falling back on your tired routine of being a terrible shitposter

it's time to stop

Can I take Adderall while i'm just running test?
I just got prescribed it and don't know shit about it.

>>40291788
ok cool. you have autism and probably bench 1 plate at 5'5

this post seems to have trigged something in you https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/2r80lh/cycle_report_first_cycle_results_dboltest_a_bit/

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>>40291808
yes you can but check your blood pressure often. keep your diet in check, do your cardio.

>>40291814
>argue stupid shit
>get demolished
>"U TRIGGERED BRO?? U MAD??"

>>40291838
k

Favorite sleep aids?

I keep waking up after 2-3 hours and having no ability to fall back asleep.

Benedryl and melatonin haven't helped.

>>40291946
in a couple weeks, my favorite sleep aid will be 8iu of overdosed HGH

>>40291946
punch yourself in the balls and cry yourself to sleep.

no lie though cold showers help alot. vitamin D3 at 10-20k ED dosage should make it easier to fall asleep.

>>40291952
I feel like $2k could be better spent but at least you're excited.

How are the glands doing?

>>40291946
I use green dragon I make myself. I can get jars of shake from my neighbor who works on a grow.

>>40291966
Weed lets me sleep but destroys the quality. After a week or so of low dose to relax and fall asleep at night I get major brain fog and lethargy.

>>40291946
otc that's pretty much it.

ghb or ambien otherwise

>>40291961
theyre small enough that it just visually increases my faces bf% a shitload, by like ~10%. going away for sure but this medications side effects are so fucking disgusting. severe vertigo (which fucks up lifting obviously), extreme nausea, constantly feel like you are gonna shit piss and vomit (even if u dont have to)

and how could the $2k be "better spent". it's not like i ONLY have $2k. i just decided to blow money on HGH since why the fuck not. i still have shitloads of money and keep getting more for simply existing. already getting melanotan 2, have fuckloads of gear, ancillaries, meme hairstack supplements, accutane, etc..

only gonna run the HGH for like probably 8 months at first to see if I like it. if not oh well. but i would regret not trying it when i have the money to.

>>40291992
> i still have shitloads of money and keep getting more for simply existing

?

>>40292015
i dont pull it out of my ass my parents just randomly give me fuckloads of money for no reason cuz they are rich as hell

>>40292019
fuck you im jealous

why didnt I start earlier injecting bathtub chemicals into my body?
testosterone is fucking amazing!

>>40292038
TRT ?

>>40291065

>This guy is walking, or should I say waddling proof.

Lamo I found your account glands

>>40291814

Dude I had 1pl8 bench for like 9? Reps the first day I walked into the gym, skeletons really are weak as fuck compared to fatties it's not a meme is it

Is there any reason I shouldnt be getting 150g plus of protein per day? I dont have a lot of money to be eating quality meat so powder is my alternative

>>40292178
120grams to 180 grams of protien is more than enough to grow off of most people who need more than that should just roid up to get max results and be done with it.

qouina, lentils, beans, and split peas are good add ons and slow digesting carbs. srs look up the macro breakdown for all 4

>>40292188
Oops I forgot a word, I meant to say 150g of protein from protein powder only

I can get 50-100g from meat per day, but as im on Test-E im trying to get over 200g per day so using powder to fill out the rest

>>40292213
that sounds like more of a waste of money for the powder but so long as your splinting it up and having 2 scoops before bed should help alot.

nothing entirely wrong about it, the digestion rate is the major thing to consider with meats aside from B12 content and other micronutrients that your missing out on whey isnt a horrible option.

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>>40292178
Depending on your size you probably need more than that. I know a natty 130lb chick whos prepping for a show who eats 150g a day.

Just buy chicken. Its like 2$ a pound. Thats about a 128 grams right there

>>40292213
Where do you live?

I can't imagine bulk frozen chicken/fish/pork/turkey is less expensive per gram of protein.

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>>40292213
Whole food is always better. That said I drink 6 scoops or roughly 150g on days I train and 100g of whey on off days.

>>40292243
I live in Aus, I can buy powder for 30g protein per dollar from bulknutrients

>>40292229
"Need" is a strong word here.

I'm pretty sure protein is less important as a fraud, because you don't need to trigger protein synthesis. As a natty you need extra protein in yoir diet to maintain protein synthesis, especially when cutting.

Your body can only utilize so much protein at once. It's better to take in more direct energy sources (carbs) if your body is already primed to start building.

>>40292257
How's the quality? Protein powder isn't as regulated as normal food in the US, I imagine it's the same there.

Also how much does Roo meat cost?

>>40292244
BRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP

>>40292263
Im pretty sure when youre on cycle the more protien the better. Your nutrient partitioning is better so your body can synthesise more protein

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>>40292263
>I'm pretty sure protein is less important as a fraud

Im pretty sure its the exact opposite of this actually. You can literally use more protein.

>>40292279
Look at pictures of the roiding Africans in Ghana. There's an Instagram somewhere where he was posting his lunch and it had no meat in it. It was whole grains and beans.

Look at the video Clarence put out on his vegan diet. It had a pretty normal amount of protein in it, and Clarence is still jacked as fuck.

The problem with just increasing protein intake ad infinitum is that not all of it goes to your muscle tissue. They can only take in so much in one day. What doesn't get taken up by your muscle gets fed to your skin hair organs, bone marrow etc, and your liver turns what it doesn't use into sugar.

That's why the bigass freaky looking people eat loads of carbs. Carbs serve many purposes in bodybuilding. They first and foremost provide the raw energy needed to actually utilize the protein you ate. Think of protein as the bricks and carbs as the builders . Carbs also tend to have a decent insulin reaction, and muscle cells that have been worked love to tske in lots of glucose. Thrid, carbs are preferentially stored as glycogen, which not only has an effect on muscle size of itself, but it allows you to work harder snd longer in the gym.

>>40292321
Yeah but TDEE in general goes up, is there a comparison of reactions to macronutrient ratios?

Of course you can use more protein in total but I'm talking about in comparison to total caloric intake.

>>40291065

>>40291841
>>40292273

'Not fat=Steroids'

'Everyone that is not fat is not natty'

>4% bodyfat

>>40291560
Placebo man, unless its p and frontloaded heaps

>>40292354
Alex I made a post for you and it makes me sad you didn't reply.

>>40290581

>>40291946
Phenibut

>>40291992
How long does 2k last? I've heard HGH is fucking expensive

>>40292019
You looking for a bf to spoil bb

What's a decent price for anavar? Would it be better to get raws and make a tincture, or is it not worth the hassle?

>>40292382
Well for generics (this brand is currently testing as overdosed keep in mind) I am gonna pay $1.17 an IU and run probably 8iu a day, 5 days of the week with 2 days off. 40 iu a week, 2080 a year. so $2.4k a year assuming this source stays.

who knows I might get shitty sides and have to lower the dose, especially considering I am very prone to carpal tunnel already.

>>40292354
y do koreans look so fucking weird

>>40292388
sure but you have to dominate me. ill give you some cialis. i want you to hold me down by the throat and use your diamond cutter dick pill fueled BBC to carve these fucking glands out of my face

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What the fuck does this mean?

>>40292407
Feck I'm a white aussie, only a mere 7 incher here
Also I'm 6ft 105kg so you might be bigger than me

>>40292412
You're within normal values unless you're taking antibiotics or thyroid hormones.

>>40292407
So is that weekends off or 3 on 1 off?
Also can you just run HGH when your not on cycle?
or do you blast cruise?
If bc do you worry about having kids?

>>40292435
Okay good thank you

>>40292426
>you might be bigger than me
>Glands
HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>40292398
I got it for around 70c per 10mg, I think thats pretty stando

>>40292447
Surely all that gear makes him big?

>>40292398
>What's a decent price for anavar?

Might as well buy winstrol, cus that's what you're gonna be getting familang

>>40292453
If he was actually big he'd post pics. He hasn't and wont because he's dyel as fuck but still mocks everyone

>>40292370
what dosage?

>>40292453
No i take gear to be a reddit skinnyfat twink and get choke fucked by my dom

>exam tomorrow
>cannot fucling sleep

>>40292363

I missed it bro I'm sorry.

All great points. Yeah, I do cardio, every day, just LITT, mild effort, elpitical for 30 mins, maybe an hour, up to an hour and a half if I'm shitposting really well in a thread

I couldn't agree more with everything you are saying.

If you are sedentary, and have a weak as fuck soft jello body, and your cardiovascular system is 'out of breath going up the stairs /plg/ tier' then you should work on that, duh.

I don't think just doing starting strength alone is going to do much for you in terms of general health, wellbeing, endurance, increase in lean mass, and you are telling me it's NOT EVEN OPTIMAL FOR STRENGTH LOL.

So what is it good for, if it's not even good for being able to lift some arbitrary number of plates and bragging about it on 4chan?

>>40292493
>So what is it good for, if it's not even good for being able to lift some arbitrary number of plates and bragging about it on 4chan?
It's basically a shit program in every way to be honest. The "lift bigger numbers every time you're in the gym!" Thing provides an illusion of solid progress but all in all you're better served getting more volume in and doing a large variety of movements. Building a base, so to speak. SS does a horrible job at building a base, it's basically the bare minimum.

>>40292465
250-500mg for sleep and anxiety 2-4g for recreation/euphoria, bulk nutrients is pretty cheap

>>40292483
>>40292370

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>>40292548

Glands and I were having a grand old time shitposting over some stuff on the starting strength fourms, it is straight cringe man.

Like, I wonder sometimes if it is fitmisc kids writing satire, then you look and see the guy posting every day for months and months

Stuff like this.

>gained 87 lbs over the course of the program
>bodyfat % actually went down because of how much muscle I put on
>lifts are now X/X/X/X
>Stronger people are harder to kill than weak people
>after cut I will be estimate I will be 10% bodyfat @ 5'6" 220 lbs
>currently 307 lbs 5'6"
>started program + gomad at 215 lbs

etc etc

And then everyone circle jerks each other about how 'great' the guy must look and how he 'towers over those tiny twinks' and is 'strong like an ox'

>>40292450
Anybody else got prices?

>>40292461
You can tell the difference famalam those joints start aching early on winny/stana but 80-100mg of var for 6-8 weeks is ez

>>40292567
I got 100g sitting around, but I am a little scared since I heard its pretty addictive and withdrawal is supposed to be hell.
how often are you taking it?
is it really that good for anxiety when mixed with alcohol?
would like to hear your experiences

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>>40292575

Like, I thought NatT had an impressive physique, and he is what, 5'8, 140

But this guy must have a REALLY impressive physique, look, he has 45 lean pounds on him.

These people always talk about size, neglect to mention what kind of size...

And then they go in the CBT lol, and they will shitpost at ANYONE that isn't 5'10 200lbs + and lean that they are a 'skeleton' and 'I have more lean mass than you!'

In their heads, they think there is a competition (NPC, they are way way bigger than any natty bodybuilders, remember, they would be 230 lbs at 5'10" if they cut) inside of them and just as soon as they cut, bam, they are there.

>>40292584
250ed is fine, withdrawal aren't anything to worry about unless you're in recreational doses everyday, you might feel grumpy and irrational after coming off after a long time but if you expect it its nothing
T. Ex benzo and opiate addict, benzo withdrawal is the real deal, pheni actually helped with my withdrawals and now I only use it on nights I'm tossing and turning, also great for stopping alcohol/weed.

People complaining about harsh withdrawals are recreational users using 10-15x the recommended dosage.
If you ever want to try it recreationally its a very relaxing smooth high similar to benzos but without the foggy feeling, hard to describe because there's not much intoxication, but a crisp clear feeling of relaxation and minor euphoria

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>>40292606

Like this is what, 6'0, 225 lbs right?

I legit, get people shitposting at me that they have a "BMI of 34" AFTER I cut down to "4%" and that's because I am "15%" 6'0 275 right now and pretty lean with visible abs"

it's not satire I don't think, because they always mention how they can deadlift more than you can and stuff

sorry for rambelings lol, just amuses me

What kind of diet/Marco split for a High Tren, Test cycle?

>>40292627
Feck, mast is pretty juicy, maybe I should stop cycling and blast cruise

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>>40292635

mmmm I don't know if that's it.

You see people posting this photos on blast and cruise so...

>>40292634
Are you cutting or balking?
Tren helps you use protein better so I go high protein, have most carbs straight after gym but keep them fairly low through the day.
Have a fatty steak for one meal and maybe a fatty breakfast but chicken breast for the rest
Try fiddle around with it everyone's different

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>>40292575
Yeah but tbH I mostly feel sorry for those people, a lot of them are just misinformed and get caught up in the circlejerk.

Since you have loads of free time and seem to be dedicated to this bodybuilding thing for the time being, I'd suggest doing GPP and conditioning work. At least while you're bulking, it's only gonna help make sure you don't get fat along the way, and helps train your anaerobic energy pathways. Just Google for ideas on those.

As a natty you mostly just want to be as physically healthy and active as possible, and try to work all energy pathways, at least to a small extent, I doubt you'd want to go so hard on the cardio you overtrain and shrink yourself down. And ideally you'd play some sort of amateur sport too but if you're already doing GPP and cardio and lifting that might not really do anything for health. Mostly just spitballing based on soviet S&C models on what they did to prepare their athletes. Like I said, for natties physical health+lifting=gains.

>>40292644
>roiding for this

>>40292623
sounds interesting, how long have you been using it as a sleepaid?
didnt sleep this night and am now on 300mg moda so I will try 250mg tonight if I dont fall asleep at 10.

thats the problem I guess, was reading about the withdrawal stuff on drug forums, they were all using 1g and more per dosing.
I have never used benzos, but thought about getting some diazepam and alprazolam for anxiety/sleep.
but will try pheni first, since I already got it and its legal.

with what kind of withdrawal has pheni helped you?

>>40292407
You in us or something?
Is that a fairly srando price?

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>>40292647

If I remember correctly, this was 1 year of 1grm/wk test + some other compound? Var? HCG? Anyone remember? Was like 3-4 months back he posted, lol.

Glands porbally remembers

And his diet was "Perfect" and he was in the gym "5 times a week for hours"

>>40292646

> to this bodybuilding thing for the time being

Mmm I was told I would quit on day 1, a month, in, etc.

You guys never considered that lurking here would make me so insecure with my physique and so dysmorphic that I would never, ever quit.

>. Like I said, for natties physical health+lifting=gains.

Yeah.

I am starting to learn in terms of this bodybuilding shit, as crazy as it sounds, "If it sounds correct it probably is"

Stuff like "Eat real food" and "Lift with intensity" sounds obvious, and it seems to work, since the people that say it seem to look pretty good.

And then you see people on reddit talking about rigid deload patterns and optimal loading schemes and then they post physique and it's not even 'roiding for this', it is 'going to the gym for this?'

Like, pic related body I would say, from most of those guys desu.

>>40292657
Benzos might put you to bed but you won't have a good sleep, it stops REM sleep and is shit for bodybuilder.
It helped me get off xanax and oxy,

>>40292674
>lurking would make me this insecure

I get compliments all the time by ransoms and friends ect, but I don't care about anyone's opinions as much as people on a Mongolian throat singing forum.
What gave I become

>>40292680
nah, I need REM sleep.
I will also try L-Theanin as a sleep aid and will cycle it with Phenibut(if effective) and Melatonin.
GABA doesnt work for me and the effects of ZMA kinda stopped.
Anything else you can recommend?

How long have you been taking xanax/oxys?
was it prescription?

>>40292687
Ikr

But it's a good thing. If people think you look good here and actually admit it, you know for sure you actually look good.

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>>40292687

You have the only correct attitude, for getting big.

So I'm reasonably lean and have a tiny bit of muscles.

I get girls from OkC that talk up my physique a lot, because it is the twink shit they see on their boy band album covers or whatever, I dunno.

How """'rippped"""" i am and how """nice"""" my body is

Girls feeling my 14" arms and telling me how """"big""" they are

I don't care though, all meaningless shit.

THe way I see it is they weigh 90 lbs, so who cares about their opinion on physique?

Right? Logic. They have no physique, no nothing, 90lbs.

MasT said something good about my physique, that he was mirrin' progress, and that really felt good, that was the validation I was seeking, desu.

But there was a qualifier:

>mirrin' progress

When big people post, they get

>mirrin

Still not there

>>40292674
>1 year of 1grm/wk test + some other compound? Var? HCG? Anyone remember? Was like 3-4 months back he posted, lol.
Jesus Christ really?

What the fuck. He could jack off all day with that much test, so long as he alternated hands his arms would get huge.

>>40292704
I want to overtake masT, POST YOUR HEIGHT/WEIGHT/BASIC MEASUREMENTS SO I CAN BEAT YOU FAGGOT

>>40292695
It started out with prescriptions but shit got out of hand, I've been sober for over 6 months now though, I was using those 2 as my main but really anything I could get for 4 years

>>40292734
hang in there bro
I hope you have someone to talk about that kind of shit

how is your progress in the gym coming along?
what are you running rn?

How anabolic is anime?
I try to watch at least 5 EPs a day and my gains have exploded

>>40292711

Yeah, you see worse on reddit, glands posted a photo of "2 years perma blast" and the guy had zero size in his back and not very big in general.

???

People flame me when I say that I made more progress just following mast's advice in less time natty than some people do on steroids + no gym.

But it's true, I mean, my physique is like equivalent to him, if he cut. >>40292390


I don't think this is dysmorphia, I seriously cannot see how he would have more lean mass than I do. Maybe bigger arms?

I'm not getting an ego I am just saying that natty + gym> steroids + no gym

People debate me because muh steroids magic /fraud/ magic roids


>>40292723

He is 105KG 6'0 arms somewhere between 20" and 19" IIRC

Bf% looks to be what? 6? 5? I dunno. Ask him.

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>>40292752
I'll agree with you. Steroids and no lifting is stupid. Gear isn't a magic bullet.

more or less what will it cost me for 10 weeks of test e w/ aromasin and PCT?

>>40292774
Hundred bucks maybe.

>new cycle
>that chronic horniness
oh no

Dead

>>40292932
Ded as doorknob
So contribute already
Ask a stupid question or something

>>40292942

>ask a stupid question

Hypothetically if you guys had infinite money and could run any cycle you wanted as a first cycle what would it be

>tfw 7 months to lifting for a year

>>40292942
is he natty?

>lift for a good 2 years
>hungry skeleton so I permabulked
>wanna roid now that i'm depressed at reality
>haven't had sex in 2 years
>wanna roid now that i'm depressed at reality

I'm so poor right now, but fuck I don't want to live on this planet anymore if I don't start getting fucking laid.

>>40292967
test e 500mg pw, maybe some deca or dbol

>>40292973
first cycle is less than $200 for 12 weeks, pretty cheap m8

>>40292973
Oh man two years sooo long. That must be like, hard to deal with.

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>>40292975

I've been thinking thinking about first cycle and I think I'd like to see how fucking dysfunctional and psychotic I would be on tren

I really wanna give glands a run for his money and I have grandpa beaten

low test high tren right?

>d-dont use tren first cycle

see attached photo lel

Not saying I would look like even after tren but yeah

>>40293021
No reason to use tren aside from competing.

>>40293042

That bad for you huh?

What are the benefits of dbol and deca?

I know people say use var to to get roid benefits you know, before the cycle is one month in, but that seems sort of impatient and orals are bad for your liver right?

Is var really that worth it?

>>40293054

Also, var lowers your test levels.

And you don't have high test for one month after you pin right?

SO if you take var right away, I mean, this is basically an oral only cycle for the first month? Why is that not bad, the var lowers your natural test production?

Feel free to ignore me if you want, just bored and it's dead right

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>>40293054
Personally, yeah tren is a mindfuck. In general, yeah it's just that harsh of a drug; var EQ and mid test can get you an inferior 3D look that would blow the layman away. Only is nerds can see a physique and go "oh tren duh". No one else cares.

Var is a miracle drug. I can squat with no knee crepedice, no clicking, no pain. The pumps are full and it's mild.

Dbol is a miracle drug as well for mood; methyl oestrogen makes you feel like superman. Constantly mild, cheerful and collected.

Deca is subpar to npp, but npp is a go to when I want to look full. I need npp with tren or I go flat (I need a sodium and carb pump from a chest day to look presentable on tren).

Pic related, me on 525 tren 250 test.Skinny skinny 210.

>>40293063
Any androgen will cause some degree of shutdown.

You don't have to take an oral for any prescribed amount of time; I used dbol for 5 months straight. People just like to kickstart blasts for immediate impact.

I'm taking 25 sdrol now just to add 15-20lbs quality mass before 1500 test takes full force.

>>40293082
I can't get a prpoer gauge on your body somehow, I cant tell how big you'd be next to someone

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>>40293101
About this big. That dude is 5'10-11

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>>40293108
Can u spot CHEM?

>>40293082

thanks bimbo

I'm sorry I flamed you and stuff

everyone does things they regret I hope we can move past it

I don't wanna shrug off responsibility for my bad behavior but I may have some issues as well, I dunno, not tryign to shrug responsibility for what i do though

I'm gonna keep eating this month, and then do a 2 month cut.

I am still convinced my body fat % is higher than photos indicate, because of fat distribution and because I take 20 photos in 20 diffrent ligthings looking for the one I am the leanest in

Irl my physique doesn't really feel dry and hard, it feels soft and squishy around my hips

I guess my personal goal is to stay lean year round, lean as I can, obviously bigger would be better too but that is paramunt for me

>>40293131
Start fasting as you up calories and eat your most calorie dense meals post workout.

I should say the tile picture is ~a year old and the con photos are about 18 months old. Not a proper reflection of current size. Not sure I have any recent pics next to anyone.

>>40293054
Bro it's your first course, run 12week 500 mg test e/c or even sus, maybe 30-40mg dbol ed for first 4-6 weeks, you'll explode, you won't need to worry about tren until you're needing 1g a week test to grow.
Its risking more sides and spending 4 times as much to get very similar results for a first cycle, you can only gain so much muscle in 12 weeks.

>>40293117
So you're like 6'1 or 2 right?
What are you like 100kg lean?
Arms look at least 18, looking good bro

>>40293131
Just keep working at it and doing your best. You're a bit annoying, but at least you lift, and that puts you ten steps above most of /fit/, really.

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>>40293154
I'm 6'5 lmao

That's about 215 in the con pics. For reference I'm 245ish now, 20".

Testosterone converts to DHT
Nandrolone converts to DHN
Finasteride reduces the conversion of testosterone to DHT
Finasteride reduces the conversion of nandrolone to DHN

>Unlike the case of testosterone and DHT, 5α-DHN is a much weaker agonist of the androgen receptor (AR) than is nandrolone.[1][2][3][4] >For this reason, instead of local potentiation in androgenic tissues, there is a local suppression in AR activation when nandrolone is converted into 5α-DHN by 5α-reductase in these tissues.[1][2][3] >This is largely or completely responsible for the exceptionally high ratio of anabolic to androgenic effects seen with nandrolone.[1][2]

>The combination of nandrolone with a 5α-reductase inhibitor like finasteride or dutasteride will block the conversion of nandrolone into 5α-DHN and, unlike with testosterone and various other AAS, thereby considerably increase the propensity of nandrolone for producing androgenic side effects.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5%CE%B1-Dihydronandrolone

Is unconverted nandrolone worse on the hair than the DHT from testosterone, and to what degree?

My goal is to use steroids with the intent on putting on muscle while also increasing collagen synthesis with minimal hair loss. Anavar, primobolan and equipoise are all a bit on the more expensive side which I why I would like to stick to a cheaper compound like deca. My plan was to run trt levels of test, about 125mg each week and then add 200mg deca and in the future might even run it as high as 600mg.

>>40293164
DidMPB affect your maternal grandfather?

>>40293143

First of all I gotta move out to pin, so I can't do anything right now anyways.

There's that anxiety of living alone again that I have, I dunno, it'd be a lot for me but If you really want something you do what you gotta do you know?

I never really lived on my own for long, I lived with girlfriends.

I'm thinking that housing prices will crash soon, I just look and I see a bubble, the growth in REITs and stuff mirrors what we saw in 2006, early 2007.

And we all remember what happened.

***READ THIS**---> IF YOU BUYING A HOUSE WAIT---> PROMISE YOU.

Once prices crash I might just look to buy some hovel somewhere flat out.

>>40293141

> and eat your most calorie dense meals post workout.

I always been doing that, I listen to your advice bimbo.

Here's what I did for those months on the suicide cut,

>go gym early in morning
>eat before workout
>eat most of my calories right after workout

Then I don't really eat much rest of the day.

Now I just doing the same shit, with more food, eat a huge meal, go lift, (i even bring food with me kek), eat while I lift, then go home, eat more.

Just trying to have as much calories in me during that whole process.

>>40293163
How are you so tall and so light m8

>>40293174
Why move out?
It takes 2 minutes to set up, pin and Clea up, I do it ed

>>40293174
Keep it up then.
>>40293176
I do a lot of fasting to stay insulin sensitive and I spend way too much time with tobacco in my lip.

>>40293173
Yes. My mother's uncle were bald before 30. I'm also concerned about collagen synthesis

>>40293178

Dude I have like severe I dunno, 4chan diagnosis is "retardness".

In reality, I am just careless.

I 100%, 100%, would leave something lying around and get caught, and then ruin my relationship with my parents AND get thrown out, with no where to go, end up in some hotel, wasting $100 a night looking for somewhere to rent, not ideal.

>>40293188
Do you smoke ?
Or just weed.

>>40293195
Then you're gonna bald regardless just shave. It's just hair.

Best compounds for collagen synthesis gh->gh peptides->var->EQ->nandrolone

>>40293201
I chew. I kicked alcohol and weed. I was getting too foggy and now I have like 15 clients constantly asking me shit. If I were stoned I'd probably be telling a chunky YouTube girl to start eating 80/20 beef every meal while chugging milk.

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>>40293216

> I'd probably be telling a chunky YouTube girl to start eating 80/20 beef every meal while chugging milk.

What else would you tell her bimbo?

>>40293188
I'm not saying you're small, just lighter than an average guy of your height, its confusing.
Nice job on the 20" though, I'm struggling at 18 now, but I think its because of shitty inserts, sloped biceps mean I measure near my shoulders

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>>40293235
#nolegs DESU

I take zero offense. I'm trying to hit 300 by May. Just gonna blast 1500 test with mass orals til then eating beef, milk, jasmine rice, and cereal. Don't care if I get a little chunky.

But in general, those 210 pics were about 3 months out from a contest I was prepping for.

A fuller 210 after eating 3 pizzas.

>>40293231
I'm eating a 36oz bag of cereal and whole milk for kicks rn

>>40293258

If your goal is stats then legs should be a priority right?

I spend a *LOT* of time on my quads, because it's the largest muscle in your body, obviously, gonna give you nice stats.

Whenever someone looks good and they are light for their height, it's no legs, and not bimbo no legs, no legs.

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>>40293269
Idk I feather my quads well but still p chicken leg out here.

Fucking tren man - my girl loves how I turn into a fucking animal in bed but sweating this much when it's snowing outside is just an odd feeling

>>40293282
Go make a snow angel and watch the steam. Also it's snowy here too.

>>40293264
Alright explain to me how you don't get fat from that shit.

I'm 215, lift erryday with loads of lower body volume, cardio and conditioning, and I would get fst as fuck if I ate like that.

>>40293289
I'm up in the PNW so I'm balls deep in wet steamy snow already

I might try that though just to cool off

>tfw probably couldn't convince gf to fuck outside but holyshit that would feel amazing

>>40293299
I lift 2-3x daily, walk .7 miles each way to the gym 6x daily with an AM 3 mile LISS session. I fast the first six hours of the day, and eat sugar only post workout. Idk I'm 6'5 and have never put fat on easily.

At my heaviest of 275 I was maybe 15%.

>>40293269
Actually glutes are the largest muscles of the body :)

>>40293316
Hey I'm in Oly.

>>40293325
Oh hey I'm in Seattle

Sup neighbor

>>40293327
Wanna trade girlies? Mine is hot but mean.

>>40293317
I'm 6'3" and put on fat so fast. It's not fair.

Waiting for the habbenin so I can put these magically appearing love handles to use.

>>40293258
Howd the contest go man?
pics of legs?

>>40293331
>hot
For you bimbsy,for you.

>>40293334
Reset your insulin sensitivity with like 2 weeks psmf.
>>40293339
Scroll up for quads. I ended up not competing because holy shit it's expensive and I wasn't a pornstar then.
>>40293341
I love(!) her s t O p lmao

>>40293331
Nah but thanks for the offer - I've see in your posts and she seems like an adventure

Moved up here 4 months ago for mine - pretty sure I'm gonna waifu her

5'10" Amazon with excellent genetics and a sassy sweetheart. Gonna breed her until my dick breaks.

>>40293351
Mirin hmu of you ever wanna lift and grab katsuburger

>>40293349
You're a pornstar?
Do you have any facial aesthetics?

>>40293351
does she do your glute pins?

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>>40293359
His porn name is Scott Ambrose

>>40293359
No. I'm 5-6/10 I just look masculine. Strong brow and jaw.

Roommate tells me I'm ridiculously attractive but she's insane soooo

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>just did glut shot day after legs
>put pressure on opposite leg to make glute relaxed
>get leg cramps 1ml into a 2.5 ml shot
that was painful, but I didn't back down

>>40293355
Thanks man I will - this is only my second blast so I'm not nearly to your level but if I ever become less asocial I'll def hit you up

>>40293367
I hate this pic.

>>40293377
>>40293367
lmao

>>40293349
>Psmf
Been there, done that

It's just genetic, I've always been able to put on weight easy. Wouldn't be a big deal except I have a huge appetite, so I'm basically always either fat or hungry.

How much do i need to pin to eat as much as I want and barely get fat?

>>40293359
She said scared of needles but she loves giving massages and is fucking great at them so I'll take it.

>tfw her fav thing is to give full body massages while naked

>>40290300
why no source all the fucking time. I desperately need a fucking source....

>>40293396
About 1500-2000mg test. Works for me and a bunch of Brazilian competitors.

Source: chemfag lmao

>>40293400
Steroids are illegal dude breaking the law is wrong

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>>40293367
It's not flattering but the context is Super Good

>>40293319

SPeak for yourself, I don't have any, I would have to pin quads or delts or I would be injecting into a bone

>>40293369

>i'm 5-6/10

Stop, stop, stop, how do you think this makes the rest of us feel

>>40290745
this also to the uk? if not can anyone recommend a good site to buy off for the UK?

>>40293404
He is trying so hard to smile in this pic.
light a candle for bimbo,man of hardships.

>>40293404
>gay sex intensifies
>>40293406
Idk like normal ass people without a wonky smile?

>>40293406
I actually think glutes are an important muscle group for physical attractiveness and presence in general no homo

Hip extension is basically how we display power. Punching jumping sprinting picking up heavy shit fucking etc, all hip extension all glutes.

>>40293411
Honestly this pic was taken mid chuckle. I was happy to be there because kink is a cool studio.

>no homo

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Still waiting for the bimbo and ex rebound story

>>40293423
Dude they fuck you in the ass there.
its pretty rude t b h q

Wew lads, my balls are hanging lower than my dick and strength seems to be going back up a bit. Guess pct is nearly over. Recovery was quick this time, hcg is tip top.

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Here's some fun Molly face.

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>>40293413

my teeth are totally fucked up too, just have no reason to smile and you're A-OK

>everyone r/steroids says that you lose ALL your gains the second you finish PCT

Are they memeing?

Is it just because they are lazy?

Is mast memeing, that if you try hard enough, you cling to those gains off cycle?

There is so much broscience and bullshit and anecdotes in your guy's communities in general and so little science, for something involving hormones.

I'm just now reading the sub and from what people imply, they all lost all of their gains like right after PCT

I'm really enjoying this late night bimbo share sesh

>>40293436
Wow what a bitch. There's a story here but hollllly shit. She and I j u s t talked about this 3 hours ago.

>>40293450
Oof

>>40293443
Depends on too many unknowns. Just try hard and see what you can do.

>>40293458
She probably posted this before I came to grab things. I have no idea what her issue is.

>begs me to live with her
>"okay but I'm fuckin you whenever"
>sounds good
>she's fickle the last 2-3 weeks
>makes a date with me Saturday
>flakes
>Sunday night we reschedule, she's naked on top of me grinding
>"you should fuck somebody else"
>lol okay #l8r
>pack my shit and leave
>texting today "you can change your shit up or I'm gone"
>"I'm not gonna change bob we aren't dating or fucking"
>"k"
>come by to grab stuff
>"hey wait where are you going stay here you live here"
>only staying if we fuck dummy that's the one thing expected of you
>"well... okay you can just take me I'll do what you want"

I am laffin what the fuck is up see confronting this in the morning instead of getting pastries

>>40293482
>bob

Def bimbo idk bob, also she's a liar I came on her ass like 2 days ago.

>>40293413
does your gf care you have gaysex?

>>40293482
Bibs you got some weird decision making going on.

You better not EVER get this crazy hitch pregnolones

>>40293494
I don't have a gf I babysit an adult child with an amazing pussy.

And no.

>>40293490
Dude I really really admire your patience.
I would've just called her a bunch of names(whore,stupid bitch etc.)and stormed off long time ago.
Why in the actual fuck you do this to yourself.

can any1 tell me a good site to order off for the uk?

>>40293490
>coming on her ass and not deep inside to breed her full of your genetics

Cmon bimbo it's like you don't even love her

>>40293501

he thinks this is what he deserves

it's not patience it's self hatred.

>>40293443
You'll lose some size, especially on watery compounds, but thats just water, and obviously if you're over the natty limit youll drop down to that, but you also develop more muscle fibres so yeah you'll be bigger than you started, these people are also the guys who make 1 kg of actual muscle all cycle then get bloated as fuck, so once the test clears and the water goes they get left with just the muscle and think they lost everything

>>40293513
Oh god no

How long have you been following this series? Her getting pregnant would literally be the worst possible scenario.

>>40293508
>source talk

>>40293514
It's funny because I bet he's passed by some perfectly great and higher functioning women in the time he's wasted on her

>>40293501
I mean, I call her awful things. Cunt, whore, bitch, child, etc. she holds that over my head big time. Mostly I think I like the challenge? Seriously I have zero capacity for understanding my behavior.

I can't tell you why I am here laying next to her with her ass on me right now.