ITT: /fit/ approved books

>>40285795

No.
That's not angsty teenager tier, it's far beyond the loser reading Catcher in the Rye.

>>40285795
How's sophomore year of high school going buddy?

>>40285795
How is this /fit/ approved? Its basically a manifesto about being a cunt to others. Ayn Rand is a hypocritical piece of shit, and her work is garbage.

>>40285795
Does this book get better? I'm 100 pages in and it's pretty boring desu. It's so highly regarded that i feel pressure to enjoy it. But kinda am not enjoying it.

Can't be any worse than Gravitys Rainbow. His writing style is fucking obnoxious in this book. Also, i do drugs, but seriously... this book is fucking all over the place lmao

>>40286116
Yeah it gets really good, at one point a character talks for about a hundred pages straight. Truly gripping.

>>40286116
would recommend anthem, its a pretty lightweight novella by her
it pushes pretty damn hard on individualism, which is right up /fit/'s alley
i would honestly put fountainhead above atlas shrugged too, but that's a pretty controversial opinion

>>40285795
>Implying I can read

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Get that Rand out your system

>>40286232
collectivism is literally the worst
i mean it has good intentions but it really can't be properly implemented before near full automation in the means of production
and also the nation state would most likely have to fall as well

>>40286078
>>40286084
>>40286114
>>40286159
>>40286232
cmon brehs
seeing how the most popular topics are tfwnogf, manlet wars, muh anxiety and /pol/, this book truly suits the majority of /fit/

>>40286232
>selling and buying the Communist manifesto
I love the irony.

reminder being a politicuck is the most un/fit/ thing you can be and neo-tribalism is the only correct path

>>40286232
Fuck off

>>40286159
>trying to filibuster your own book
rand was truly a master of politics

its a book for spoiled cunts with a superiority complex. How does that have anything to do with being /fit/?

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>>40286232
>Be disgusting commie
>Browse /fit/ as compulsory work
>Forever auschwitz mode because no food in motherland
>We should seize the means of lift and and redistribute gains
>t. a fucking retard

>>40285795
Good post

>>40286232
lmao is anybody easier to bait than /pol/?

inb4 Mediations

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Unquestionably essential /fit/ literature.

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>>40286485
/Fa/ probably

>>40286492
Meditations*

And yes, that's still the best mindset book.

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>>40286513
>you can see his stripes but ya know he's clean
>oh don't you see what I mean?

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>>40286529

anything by Henry Rollins

Ayn Rand is a faggot

>>40285795
>>40286232
I would recommend starting with foundational western thought on social and political treatises instead of skipping to basically the end first. I think one would get much more out of these books if they've read
>Plato's Republic
>Aristotles politics
>Marcus's metitations
>Augustine's city of God
>Machiavelli's Prince
>Locke's 2nd treatise
>Hobbes Leviathan
Honestly trying to read Rand or Marx without a deep background in these other books is a bit like a 12 year old talking politics at his parents dinner party. You think some arguments make sense only to have realized they were defeated a long time ago. Likewise, all of the books I've mentioned hold inherent fallacies as well. A good philosopher tries to see truths in their wholeness and varied perspectives are needed to this end

>>40286078

Catcher in the Rye is a great book. Don't talk shit bro.

my diary desu

>>40286529
>>40286543
DIO
I
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>>40286588
Fuck you

>>40286588
>great
lolmayoooooo

it's some edgy fag teen who has a crush on his little sister or something and has wet dreams about kids in corn fields after he runs away from boarding school.

>>40286550
Henry Rollins is a piece of shit.

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>>40286579
>starting from the greeks meme

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>>40286600
>/fit/ discusses literature

>>40286588
Of high school reads I found of mice and men to be much more provocative
Also I would like to add Voltaire's Candide to my above list. I almost forgot about it.>>40286579

>>40286634
>don't fuck retards because you'll die
>sometimes you gotta kill retards even if they don't mean to hurt anyone

yeah bruh, good shit.

>>40286615
>Ss for novices is a meme
>Not understanding philosophy is built up just like lifting

>>40286337
It suits weak pussies who are too selfish to see beyond themselves and their own securities. Work on your own problems.

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>>40286165
>i would honestly put fountainhead above atlas shrugged too, but that's a pretty controversial opinion
no anon, that is the correct opinion.
Atlas Shrugged is so bad that it retroactively diminished my enjoyment of Fountainhead. I guess this is what happens when you get too successful and have people congratulating your every thought. Atlas Shrugged could be alright if you edit it to about half its length.

Reality is subjective, therefore so is philosophy. Talk about a waste of time, there's a reason why it's considered a joke of a degree. 100% conjecture, go learn a language or something worthwhile.

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>>40286683
>Reality is subjective

>>40286650
That's all you got out of it? You didn't find the conflict within George at all compelling? Maybe George didn't think Lenny "had" to die but knew the townspeople would Lynch Lenny in a horrific way so it was a better death. Think about too the parallel between realities of farm life and the decision to kill livestock humanely and the action George took. Then there's the scene where the ranch hand explains the fertilized egg with the euphemism of the mark of the rooster. The whole book is about societies relationship to death in general. You had a shit English teacher my man. Also the writing and beauty of the syntax is hard to touch.

>>40286694
Prove it wrong. You can never truly know that another person perceives reality or the world the way you do because you can never actually be that person. It is not an objective experience. Science is the closest we get.

>>40286714
Yeah it's a great book, Steinbeck understood people so well. A lot of people will say it's shit because they had to read it in school.

>>40286731
Ah you proved yourself wrong.
>Science is the closest we get
Science is based on the idea that objectivism, while elusive, is quite real. Every proof of science is proof of objectivism.

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>>40286694
An educated, cultured liberal's reality is very different from some gun toting, 80 iq, 4chan browsing, redneck conservative's. This is due to the TV they watch, the books they read, and the news sources they trust.

>>40286748
How do I prove myself wrong? People argue about what is scientifically correct constantly. Every other year eggs are good for you or bad for you. It's an attempt, not a proof. It's grasping for meaning, not meaning in itself.

>>40286736
I'm glad it's taught but I'm sad that's the reaction. I think it's one of the more perfectly written novellas in the English language. The balance between entertainment and depth of thought makes for a great fiction story.

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>>40286714
>That's all you got out of it?
I really liked those two specific messages.

the rest really didn't made me think

>>40286758
>people flawed perceptions are proof that reality isn't real

>blind people live in a world where light doesn't exist

>>40286758
Possibly the most banal statement of all time.

>>40286758
For most Americans, they don't read at all.

I think a full 50% hasn't touched a book since high school in the US

I can't imagine, I've read a book at least every month at the very least. Usually a book every week or so. Boggles my mind.

>>40286768
Thats an example of media sensationalizing minor (in terms of science) studies who themselves never claimed those studies to be conclusive. Nobody calls those things scientific proofs. An example of a scientific proof is that gravity exists and acts in a predictable way.

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>>40286758
>>40286748
That's enough out of you two. Stop posting or I'll beat you up.

>>40286812
>two

>>40286477
Kek

>>40286810
Science bases itself that it is incomplete and at anytime the entirety of what we think in terms of a subject can change when something new comes to light. Not to mention this argument has nothing to do with my initial point. I said reality is subjective, not reality isn't real. Big difference, and you are essentially building a straw man to fight without actually refuting my initial point.

The fall by camus is pretty good

I liked Shogun

fun read, I think there are sequels.

>>40286758
>Their ideology is different
>Trumpets and hillshills have different ideology
>Donald Trump is, in reality, the President of both just like Obama was for 8 yrs
>No matter how both sides shouted not my President
This type of soft brained logic is what is leading our country to ruination. We constantly use equivocation fallacies or flat out don't understand the words we are using so dumb statements like
> "I'm entitled to my opinion"
And
>"All realities are different are made”
Everybody experiences the same reality through different prisms so they received different experiences not different reality. 100% of the light in a kaleidoscope is made up of the same photons, the cut and tint of the glass cause it to manifest itself differently.

>>40286895
There weren't any sequels but he did make a whole new Asian dynasty series called Taipan

I have to drive all the time for work, been listening to the Wheel of Time series. 4 books in, pretty entertaining desu.

>>40286850
>Essentially constructing a straw man
Well am I or aren't I? I'm not. You said reality is subjective, but scientific proofs prove that there are objective truths within our reality, they are elusive, and in the strictest sense, rare. Just as your statement in the strictest sense
>Reality is subjective.
Leaves no room for these objective truths to live. Therefore a more truthful statement would be
>Reality is subjective and objective
But sense these two words by definition cannot coexist in the same reality due to their self cancelling nature then we must decide between the two. And sense science has proven that objective truths exist, however rare and elusive, the most correct statement would be
>Reality is objective but vast parts of our reality are beyond our complete understanding.
Not
>Reality is subjective.

"How to bomb the u.s. government" by MDE

Anything by Camus
The Supermale by Alfred Jarry

>>40286989
Is it as good?

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>>40286919
>>40286850
Stop Masturbating

>>40286513
this is better and also /pol/ approved

>>40287056
I wasn't even the anon he started with but he said
>Prove me wrong
And for some reason I find it very difficult to avoid challenges I know can be easily met.

>>40287054
No idea. I liked Shogun a lot though

I liked the television show too

>>40287092
Weighted dips are a meme, prove me wrong

>>40287126
But yet I still know a troll when I see one.

>>40286897
Provocative cover
Gimme a run down.

>>40287167
>But yet

>>40285795
>>40285795

CRAAAAAAWLING IN MY CAPITALISM
THESE STOCKS WON'T DEVALUATE

Ayn Rand is a bitter cunt because of her ugly face

This is what happens when bitter women find an outlet, they become an SJW or an edgy look-at-me-trying-not-to-care

>>40286801
What have you read recently that you liked?

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>>40285795

>>40287275
Let me see the last three books I've read
Endymion by Dan Simmons
Confessions of a Yakuza by Junichi Saga (my great grandfather was a bakuto, so I got curious what running a Japanese gambling parlor is like)
The Consolation of Philosophy by Boethius. ( this one was a very good book)

>>40287275
Do writefag threads on /d/ count?

>>40287311
>Confessions of a Yakuza by Junichi Saga
can u say more about it
>>40287031
>>40287031
why camus?

The Way of Men and Ride The Tiger.

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Actually /fit/ approved.

>>40287291
>Dat pic
>Atg BTFO

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It's even worth learning German.

>>40287348
But not /POL/ approved as his author was of African descent... Interesting, no?

>>40286513
If you've read this but you don't know your Heidegger, just kys>>40286513
>>40286579
You're a pleb
>>40286683
>makes strong philosophical claim
>says philosophy is a waste of time

>>40287330
Hm, okay, basically it describes the rise of a Yakuza boss and his gambling group.
He discuses his start with his gang and the life he lead over the years as he rose to become a boss of a gambling group.
He specialized in gambling games, if you ever watch Samurai Champloo with the dice and calling out the number as even or odd, that is basically what he ran. He basically covers his life from the Meiji era to the Showa Era. (1920 to early 1980s for you guys who don't get the emperor year system of Japan)

>>40287311
Confessions of a yakuza sounds nice. I'll put it on the list.
I don't get the Boethius book. This was in wikipedia
>The Consolation of Philosophy has been described as having had the single most important influence on the Christianity of the Middle Ages and early Renaissance and as the last great work of the Classical Period

Is it religious? Why did you like it?

>>40287406
Actually I take back the second one

>>40287394
Why are you people so obsessed? You would spare yourself butthurt by just not using 4chan.

>>40287330
when you "make it" and still aren't happy, give him a try. Read about him before you read him if you need persuading.

>>40287329
You can share them if you think somebody would want to learn about them. I've never read one. Maybe it's good

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It's despair in book form.

>>40287406
>Classical thought is pleb meme
Don't finish there just start there, just like you're supposed to progress beyond 5x5. Most people get in way over their heads with philosophy because the people they are reading have foundations in classic thought but they do not.

>>40286078
Atlas Shrugged is pretty try hard, but its still a must read. Catcher in the Rye is good

>>40287419
Boethius book was a look at how a man facing a literal death sentence tried to reason out through his love of wisdom and learning how and why God would allow evil to exist.

The classic question that many Christians have struggled with.
If God is good, then he must not be powerful enough to deal with all the evil and injustice in the world since it is still going on. If he is powerful enough to stop wrongdoing, then he himself must be an evil God since He’s not doing anything about it even though He has the capability. So which is it? Is he a bad God or a God that’s not all powerful?”

He first came to the conclusion, there is no such thing as evil. Only an absence of good and tries to convince himself of that.

But what was really fascinating is how this doomed guy tried to deal his inevitable death (and he died horribly, and he knew it was coming).

>>40286579
>start with the greeks
The hubris of /lit/ shits up every book thread on every board. You're worse than /mu/

>>40287509
How did he die?

>>40287531
Basically the Barbarian emperor he opposed tortured him... then bludgeoned him to death.

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>>40287631
>coolguy

>>40287528
Is my hubris in that I'm assuming /fit/ hasn't read these when they have or that understanding where subsequent authors are basing there thought from is necessary. To the first I'd like to say it hasn't been my experience that /fit/ is universally well read, I apologize if I suggested something you've already read. If the second is your opinion then you are absolutely shallow and have no work ethic to get through your homework.
>>40287631
>Rrrrreeaaallly makes you think doesn't it?

>>40286597
Came here to post this. MDD is the only right answer.

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Currently reading pic related.

It's taken me almost two weeks to read 200 pages. Some parts are incredibly interesting but a majority so far has been a fucking nuisance to read

Also, rereading Lord of the Rings.

I'm just going through the books I've read over time (jesus I have read a lot)
So in addition to:
Endymion by Dan Simmons
Confessions of a Yakuza by Junichi Saga
The Consolation of Philosophy by Boethius

I've read
The Belly of Paris by Emile Zola (I read this while hungry, and then became a bit sick from reading the overly descriptive food porn descriptions of French charcuterie. DIdn't think that was possible.)
Sun and Steel by Yukio Mishima
The Kreutzer Sonata by Leo Tolstoy
The Theban plays by Sophcles (I don't usually read plays, but I did enjoy King Oedipus)
Adolf Hitler: My Part in His Downfall by Spike Milligan
The Four Loves by C.S. Lewis
One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Screw Tape Letters by CS Lewis
Musui's Story: The Autobiography of a Tokugawa Samura by Katsu Kokichi
The Overcoat and other short stories by Nikolai Gogol
Memoirs of Hadrian by Marguerite Yourcenar

I have others that I've read, but these are in one particular pile of books i've finished reading

>>40285795
I liked this book. Not for the whole rich people are better than you part, but for the eerie relation to our current time. People don't know how to do things anymore. How to think, problem solve, ect. People are worried about taking blame, worried about the feelings of others. That underlying message hit me hard when I stepped back and looked at the SJW community, the millennials, the liberals. And I like shrugs.

>>40286078

I'm going to respond to my own opinion here: Rand's writing isn't bad because of something easy like she's got a nonsense plot. Rand is bad (for me at least, and I know I'm not the only one whose tossed her books against a wall for this reason) because I couldn't give a fuck about her protagonists except that they lose, are brought to justice, whatever; they're the villain. Not the edgy antihero, not the gray area anti-villain, just straight up amoral.

Fountainhead was a tighter read, but I've always heard AS is one of those books you either read in your teens and love (even if delusionally), or maturity kicks in and it's a waste of time.

>>40287914
Pile 2 of books read
Hatchet by Gary Paulsen
My Side of the Mountain by Jean Carolyn Craighead George
Winnie the Pooh by A.A. Milne (I think I was having a children book kick)
Poems of Wang Wei
The Portable Edgar Allan Poe
The Persian Expedition by Xenophon (exciting, I read this one in just a day. "Thalassa, thalassa")
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
The Anger of Achilles by Robert Graves
Enders Game by Orson Scott Card

>>40285795
I read Atlas Shrugged last month.

It's alright. The story is fairly interesting, some of the characters like James Taggart are fun to read about. The problem with it, though, is how much of a straw man it is. I'm more right leaning, but this book ignores a lot of what socialism is actually about, and just focuses on the idea that society is built of builders and looters, and that all looters are inherently worthless money sucking losers, or that builders are all completely selfish and don't care at all about anyone who doesn't directly benefit themselves. It's silly. Rand tries to suggest that gift giving should be illegal because the receiver didn't earn it. She also acts like there are no laws restricting capitalism that would benefit society. Child labor laws or anti-monopoly laws are pretty good ones if you ask me

>>40288106
I've heard some suggest that she was deeply satirical and that this was the reaction she wanted from her book, I have no clue as to the validity of this claim

>>40287348
Of course. Alexandre Dumas is a god tier storyteller, and The Count of Monte Cristo is his best work.

>>40285795
>ITT: /fit/ approved books
anything that's non-fiction and STEM. fuck you.

>>40288148
>Then I have become death, destroyer of worlds

>>40288140
I read something about her and her weird little cult thing.

Apparently she had a thing for a younger follower who set up a series of schools to teach Objectivism . Basically announced to everyone that she was going to have an affair with him and this drove Rand's husband to drink himself to death.

When younger guy decided to cheat on Rand with a younger lady, she kind of went berserk. Destroyed apparently the schools and teaching institutes that were spread her philosophy out of spite.

>>40287860
>Also, rereading Lord of the Rings.
Same here, fucking comfy as fuck to read

Before I sign out to go bench & squat, what's on my to be (re)read pile:

Dreadnought (got through a bit on a recent flight but haven't started up again)
Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (I have a serious WWII fetish, yet never hit this one)
Book of the New Sun - Gene Wolfe (I rate this higher than Dune for monomyth scifi, and I'm always giving it away. Got fresh copies, so reread time)
Bunch of fucking histories & shit like that. Think there's a handful of Russian & French ones, but got a lot of Middle Ages stuff that's been piling up.
Still trying to find newer scifi/fantasy stuff to enjoy on the weekends. Quick reads like Butcher, or the almost literary Wolfe, but too much out there now is in that gray area. I hate when my local book sales are half full of vampire/zombie dreck

>>40288247
>Book of the New Sun
Read the first book of that recently, enjoyed it quite a bit

I feel like i'm a bit too stupid to get most of it besides obvious shit like the man on the moon painting kek

or is that normal for the first time reading? I heard it's a book you should read more than once

>>40288186
Doesn't surprise me. Her romance writing in Atlas Shrugged definitely reflects that

>Oh Dagny, even though you love someone else, I want to apologize for putting you in the position to have to leave me. I love you, and will always love you, but you love someone else, so I'm just going to keep loving you but stay quiet as you fuck this other guy

Dagny was an unlikeable cunt. How the fuck does she have three people who are all selflessly in love with her and okay with her loving someone else?

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>>40285795

One of my personal favorites. The whole thing is available in audiobook form on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNwFQ4WGi_E&list=PLYgNrP9CMjSsHMPt2lYzj_RJOL9BHJvUC

>>40288275
>Racism and s sexism much?

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nobody mentioned this book

>shiggy

>>40288358
Didn't know it was a book. I haven't seen the movie either. I should get on that...

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>>40285795
what are some books that will help turn me into a chad?

>>40285795
>>40288339
>>40288358
drivel

>>40288263

Way more than once. I'm still getting some of it. Of note is watching were Severian makes mistakes (pay close attention to what he says, especially regarding himself), and try to figure out who all of his family members are.

If you haven't delved into Urth of the New Sun, Book of the Long Sun, or Book of the Short Sun, they complete the cycle.

Wolfe is seriously steeped in Catholic mysticism/philosophy, so having a grounding in the classics of that helps. Also, there are almost no made up words; he's really sly with hints like that

>>40286232
Communism is for losers who won't apply themselves

>>40286529
Sang this in my head seconds before reading this

ETHAN FROME

>>40286683
I agree. Philosophy is totally pointless, but it's good for the mind.

>>40286372
thats pretty good

>>40288386
Chads dont read books. Look for a youtube video or something.

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REMINDER IF ANY OF THE WRITERS YOU READ ARE NOT IN RANK 5 OR HIGHER YOU ARE A DISGUSTING PLEB

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>>40287509
Lex?

>>40286116
Actually it gets worse.
While I don't really agree with her basic ideas, Atlas Shrugged might have been a decent 50-100 page novella.
Stretched out over hundreds upon hundreds of pages though...