/plg/ - Powerlifting general

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>>40240713
>mfw watching Paul getting emotionally manhandled by Trappy in the discord server

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SHEIKO & DIETMAR PROGRAMS

Sheiko Programs:

>Beginner (/plg/ internet exclusive)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfn4wy-9lc3mO5ObkoBU_Bf2GUtkr42gCyZS_hzeD4I/

>Intermediate Small Load (/plg/ internet exclusive)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A8YmCRV8hL4VFdMtuSzNAM_0wjPF4lj1HxHFEnMVers/

>Intermediate Medium Load
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18nIdEHDGktGptKsWDQzowXkmHeM6XGMFj-TnGdQKLmY/

>Intermediate Large Load
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1htZVT7ltLYVBSB3Uh9PQKqARitj46IEgihbo3Uu04P0/

>Advanced Small Load (/plg/ internet exclusive)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12NUdKocJ2GnpjFXei-N_doL7NM6aT-LwulkS8LQwGEk/

>Advanced Medium Load
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Yt4THa8mZNR81aUcgDVgdqTpc3GiAKLenx3Z7id0yE/

>Advanced Large Load
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akqwfO1und1UI1zvnwK9KIMeJ-r0TLjYJMxi2cTp84c/

Dietmar Programs (translated by c’’,)):

>New to competitions:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/176C50p67VaRiFYuDqGctTVRbgXcvejVea4GrZDg4RmA/

>Veteran competitive:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/197wVbzGyE5MWvP1KB4u6rsJX30uAmgeVxJvTV74sVc8/

>Guide for competitive programs:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzE9F9Z7GkwLSHl5UWt2Z09LVE0/view?ths=true

>Volume program:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YbmVOCBKbY8bDOVjO5lNThwKOkthaHi1sX0o6PsixJc/

>Volume program: (by Haugen)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BWu8oSQ9htB91Yjo6pP5XX8qrk-mbUNax_rvEcEf4H8/

>Guide for volume program:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzE9F9Z7GkwLYkVmb3prYWt1OWM/view?ths=true

nice OP

When I push the bar down in the benchpress so that it goes towards below my nipples I often feel how I have to force it to stop moving that direction again - basically the bar goes infront if my elbows and I kind if jerk it back under.

Is there any solution to this or do I just have to develop a better feeling for how hard I push the bar torwards my feet?

>Thread wars
Kill yourself you autistic manchild

>>40240774

>putting NSFW porn in the plg OP

Mods deleted it, genius.

>>40240774
What are you talking about? If you read the rules you would realize that the OP was a NSFW image which is distinctively not allowed on blue boards, and so it was deleted.

>>40240713

That is a good meme. Mind if I steal it?

>>40240798
fuck off hank, you slant eyed chink

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>>40240773
>things that have mass has inertia
Interesting finding; see if you could publish it in the Philosophical Proceedings, my dear chap. Make sure to do it before Sir Newton does.

>>40240713
>I'm not in there
O-oh

>>40240773
I don't really understand the problem(english isn't my first language) but going down slower lets you keep better control over the weight. It all comes down to keeping tight and learning by experience how to control the bar.

>>40240811
It's for fags anyway
>no Sean or dino

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>>40240773

Sounds like you need a higher arch. The reason it feels awkward to lower the bar towards your nipples is that the current horizontal distance is too large, so it creates a big moment arm.

Arch more, and widen your grip to at least pinkies at the PL ringmarks (not the WL ones).

>>40240836
seans there

>daily reminder to isolate abs
Finally managed to superset some abs work with bb fluff at the end of my workout.
I have to do this due to back pain but I think I'll incorporate more cool-down stuff inbetween biceps.

>>40240811
I'm not the one that added the faces. V2.0 will be produced later in the day, no need to fret.

>>40240836
>no sean
Then who is the individual holding the bottle of whiskey?

>>40240841
Dino is 3 years old where is he ree

>>40240851
dino you're not getting added

starting sheiko tomorrow for the first time what should I expect

got a total inflation of 25kg btw

fucking fuck shit. I cut my finger and hurts like hell when I touch anything with it. I guess rip lifting for some time.

>>40240896
Good it's really fucking gay and tranny chan is a retard

>>40240904
Yeah I hate that too. Can't even finger myself in the showers

>>40240902
Which Sheiko? And maybe cut down on the inflation? What's the spread of the inflation? 5/10/10?

>>40240927
intermediate medium load

10/5/10

should be doable I think

>trying to make OHP gains


Literally the hardest thing ever

>>40240942
Use mircoplates that match your micropenis

>>40240942
M I C R O P L A T E S

>>40240935
Idk, obviously YMMV, but I feel that the squatting is already pretty hard on it, and the bench and deadlifting is fairly easy. I'd say don't inflate the squat or deadlift just yet, wait and see how they feel after your first couple sessions.

>>40240942
I added 7.5kg to my OHP by doing bench only and feel on top of the world.

Still prefer OHP dough

Anyone got any songs about being hurt by women

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>>40240713

>run Sheiko
>get 10lb bench PR in 9 weeks
>run Nuckols' int high volume bench program
>get a 10lb bench PR in 4 weeks
>Sheiko is considered the gains train

>>40240966

>10lb in 9 weeks on sheiko

I made 20 in 4 weeks fAm

>>40240964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEoOOYA31_E
http://aworldelsewhere-finn.blogspot.ca/2012/10/carlo-gesualdo-or-cuckolds-revenge.html

>>40240954
>YMMV
wut

you might m.. v..?

>>40240980

The first time I ran c6w I added 25lbs to my bench. You can do anything when you're weak.

:^)

>>40241000
Your mileage may vary

>>40240942
Just ohp more

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>>40240966

The train is going straight into the sun though. It's a joke about everyone falling for the meme and dying, except norsie who jumped off the train kekk.

Paul is gonna add you and the people that's missing to the version 2.0.

>>40240964
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IgFwiCApH7E

>>40240838
Yeah, that's probably it.

I just placed my feet flat on the ground for the first time, always thought I'm lacking mobility for that.
But it atually works, was just unused to the high tension in the quads right from the start.


Feels a lot better that way because if just pushes into my upper back insanely hard and brings my chest higher.

>>40241006
Now that I give it a second look only the squatting may be hard on the days where you squat twice in a session

Deadlifting and bench looks p easy though

>>40241023

The joke was lost on me, but now I see.

I kek'd audibly.

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New and improved.

My depression is so bad lol

I'm really suffering alone lololol

Looking through competition pics

So many SBD wankers

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>the brap meme is dying

CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKERS

230kg
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQBbKeRAitq

155kg
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQBbk6HA2eU

305kg
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQBcEQhAh9J

>>40241228

>tfw no gym where people shout encouragement

>>40241228
nice depth

>>40241228
LMAO your brother has a blog!!
He must be an insufferable cunt

>>40241228
That black guy has awful squat form

>>40241228
Nice laddo

>>40241280
He's doing good mornings

>>40241332
Hi, it seems you are retarded, I apologise if I'm the first to tell you. Have a nice day!

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>>40241280
>>40241332
>>40241348

>moo will never come back

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>>40241228
Gj jorge

>>40241228

Whew lad, that deadlift grind was nice.

>>40241426
This is the power of trying hard

>>40241444

Try hard enough and you can do anything.

I'm surprised your eyes didn't pop out of your skull.

>>40241399
Fuck off moo literally no one misses you rofl

>>40241228
You looked like you had ~5 kilos more left in you on squat. Good job mang

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>>40241459
Wait until 336.0kg in the suit

>>40241464
I did 232.5kg after it but it was high

>>40241399
I hope moo dies

Do you need to necesarilly bulk to get stronger or it depends on the weight you are on right now? Lets say I get to 225 at 160lbs and I stall, in that case I need to gain weight to break the plateau for sure. But lets say I'm 180lbs and 225 then would I need to necesarilly bulk to gain strenght?

>>40241561
can do it with maintenance but bulking just makes strength gains easier

>>40241561
/sqtddtot/ is elsewhere

>>40241576
Thanks

>>40241584
Fuck off

>>40241485
>Wait until 336.0kg in the suit
please be a joke

the spotters don't deserve that

>>40241633
The loaders you mean? They don't need to spot the DL

>>40241561
you can get stronger, but you'll never get as strong as you would if you bulked, and your max potential will be much lower.

>>40241660
Not entirely through, theres a cap and a point of diminishing returns

If hes twinkmode, then yes I agree he should bulk

>>40240732
lol pmo

>>40241399
I wish he'd kill himself srs

Powerlifting records should be reset every five years

Surely we will just get to the point where they are all unbeatable.

Who is moo?

>>40241561
You can get stronger while not gaining weight, but gaining muscle mass is the most important factor of getting stronger both short and long term.

>>40241746

Yeah. Like Athletics' female World Records from the 80s that were done by doped superwomen

>>40241753
Someone who should kill himself

>>40241004
Explain mine gains then

>>40241746
>Surely we will just get to the point where they are all unbeatable.
You'd think so but then another CYC or Sumner comes along.

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God tier bulking food desu

>>40241767

You're a turbo talentchad. You could still be making 2x/week squat progress on SS.

>>40241818

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>>40241228

Good lifts senpai! :3c

>>40241920
When does the big bench revelation come trappy.

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>tfw no qt powerlifting gf

How do you cope with this?

Help me finish my suicide playlist

https://youtu.be/jhk-DiPqhr8
https://youtu.be/HsixXCnYVfA
https://youtu.be/VRLE-J-9gl0
https://youtu.be/8JNDi04ZGmw

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>>40242003

I should be working on that but instead I'm making memes

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Bodyweight fag here, what's the best bench press varriariin that will best translate to assist body weight training ?

My main goal is the first movement shown in the below video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aH7ob38sGN8

>>40241759
if your a novice, just learning the movement and your body adapting to the work is far more important than gaining muscle mass. But afterwards muscle mass is the most important.

>>40242069
Post bouypoughcchie

Contribute to my suicide playlist you fags

>>40242032
Well then upload those at least.

>>40242169
>hurr durr i want to kill muhselfphh :(9((9
Try lincoln park xddxd

Recommended briefs color for under black singlet? I tested black boxers under it and I think you could still see through them in a squat.

>>40242169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWisgdJRB98

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>>40242128

>>40242201

None.

Then when you deadlift take off your shirt and go up to any qts at the meet and tell them you're naked under the singlet. Chicks dig that stuff.

>>40242198
You should try it fag

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>>40242201
Frilly panties
>>40242208
Cute. Post boynipples

https://youtu.be/JTeKpWp8Psw


Ahhhhhh so sad

>>40242216
I'm competing with my girlfriend

>>40242235
that's not a color

>>40242232
Sounds like you just like to whine desu lol what a massive attention-seeking faggot lmao

>>40242265
Meant to also say pink

So for body weight assurance work would a low incline undergrip bench press be best?

>>40242270
Quality reading comprehension nigger

>>40242298
Says the dumbass that isn't saying anything substantial to require critical reading skills lamo it's time to end your life kiddo

>>40242169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xm7s9eGxU

>>40242265

Then tell her you're naked underneath and fugg in the bathroom when they're handing out medals. This shit's elementary.

>>40242313
Every sentence can be analysed, only a child would miss obvious inferences.

Kills yourself. With parental permission of course, kiddo.

>>40242235
Sorry I was born a boy with huge areols

>>40242338
>conflates is with ought
>tries to sound superior and fails miserably
Lmao sounds like an allegory for your pathetic life desu you silly cuck

>>40242350
Listen here asshole

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>>40242346
>he's hiding his thicc juicy pepperoni boynips from us

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>>40242367

Will sumo deadlifting reduce my risk of back injuries

to time have ich wenig time

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I fuck off up all of you'res.

Version Deux will be ready for pre-order soon.

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>>40242346
Are you me?

>>40242425
Blueshoes this is your father come upstairs I need to talk to you.

>>40242454
He's not home, he's in a public restroom you mong

>>40242461
Shut up Paul I'm so sick of you always doing this if you keep this up I'm going to break up with you

>>40242468
Do it faggot. We haven't even fucked yet. You mean NOTHING to me!

>>40242425
How you doing fag
Wanna talk on discord or you been good

>>40242494
I kept telling you to come over and you won't wtf kind of bf are you smfh I can see why Jeff broke up with you

Party I'm going you have to wear shirts

Fucking gay, weighing almost 100kg and a dress shirt don't go together.

Wtf its February already???????.?.?.??.?.?.?.??

Where is my life going

>>40242582
Speak for yourself, I look great in a shirt at around 115kg

If I were to do under grip bench press on a low incline how hard would it be to translate back to normal bench press?

I'm doing this for chest aesthetic purposes. Or should I just do low incline bench?

that's a retard variation. just do incline bench or an incline kind of flye (cable is probably your best bet)

bench, incline bench and flyes are all you need desu. use flyes where incline bench is convenient (e.g. if you just did a good amoujt of heavy bench and want more chest work, your triceps will be too tired to use your chest effectively on incline IMO, so just so flyes)

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can someone remind me what this tape on his knee is called?

>>40242880
kinesiology tape

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>>40242916
Remember this summer when you said you'd be outbenching me in just a few weeks

>>40242952
I really like you, but since September 2014 you haven't said a single nice thing to me.

Thanks.

>>40242952
Yeah. I was cursed and all my gains died up.

But hey, I think I *do* outbench you currently

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>>40242986

I'm gonna start doing OHP exclusively so I can put on a trip called ohp bro

Rip powerlifting total

>>40243003
Ja but does he bench that today

>>40242916
thanks izlee

how on earth is clarence kennedy so strong anyway

I wrote my own programming a while back. I was going over the numbers and comparing it to Sheiko.

Just realized that I am stronger now than I was then and I'm only doing one third of the volume that I was on Sheiko.

Plus it's more flexible for higher rep range work and more variation.

If you guys get tired of the Boris mean, you should try writing your own programming sometime. You'll learn a lot

>>40243078
Intersection of steroids and talentchaddery

https://youtu.be/jhk-DiPqhr8

This is so horribly depression. Worth a listen. Prutus.

>>40243081
Yeah I'm making good gains on maxing every session like chadlex did
Getting a lot of critique for it, IRL too lol.

Thinking of switching it up for fun, want to do some bodybuilding, but have a higher specificity.

>>40242398
Yes. If you can get a more natty hinge sumo than conventional it will.

>>40242582
>weighing almost 100kg and a dress shirt don't go together

This is only true if you're fat

>>40242398
Might do, but meh, probably not that much of a lower risk.
I lull conventional with a history of lower back injuries, as long as I hinge good it's all good.

>>40243154
Yes hi I am fat kek

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>>40243154

>>40243175
George isn't fat?

>>40243175
>Tfw have a platinum rare of Phil in a dress shirt but I've sworn to never share it

>>40243218
I've been on PLG for 855 days and you haven't been NICE TO ME EVEN ONCE.
YOU IGNORED ME IN THIS VERY THREAD.

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Someone please explain

>>40243268
Same reason I have a 5'9 wingspan and bench is my weakest lift

>>40243268
It seems to be a picture of you measuring your femurs. Probably taken with a mobile camera.

>>40243218
I will trade you 1 (one) giga rare paul pp pic for this

>>40243308
Why the FUCK would I trade an ultra rare that I've sworn not to share for some image of a shitty irrelevant guy?

>>40243344
clothed fil shots have no buying power in this market. my collection is definitely worth at least one lingerie shot, with a noticeable bulge AT THE MINIMUM.

you honestly should be grateful I'm willing to sell this low. you won't get a chance rares like this again I assure you.

>>40243218
>>40243308
>>40243344
>>40243398
He'd never do this to his friend,r-right?

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Add me on Facebook!!!!!

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>>40243398

Nevermind it's missing one thing...

>>40243421
no blueshoes? :(

>>40243416
Wanna talk on discord?

>>40243421
Of course you make yourself the conductor.

>>40243459
if u want to sure fag

just can't admit u wanna talk to me?? too good for ya??

>>40243469
If you wanna talk man :^) what's your id so I can add you?

>>40242880
>>40242916
any advice on the best way to get the most out of this tape, i.e. use it most effectievly?

>>40243421
Needs Mike T, Dietmar and Wendler somewhere imho.

>>40243479
ask around. I'm not your guy

>>40243504
You... You sure write like him. Got my hopes up dude.

>>40243504
how about you fuck off then you fucking cunt. suck my cock dick.

it's not finished yet reeeee gimme a minute

>>40243468

The first version wasn't made by me :p

>>40243421
might start Sheiko, which program would you recommend ?

>Bench 265 x 2
>Squat 330 x 2
>DL 440 x 2

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>>40243468
I made original. I put her as conductor since she's the one that perpetuates the Sheiko meme more than anybody here.

>>40243424
Did ya vote trump benchie boy?

Post the midwest plg meet pic please, the archive isn't loading it :(

>>40243614
pls be kgs

>>40243644
ofc not I am a weak faggot ;_;

nevermind I got it 8)

>>40243614
intermediate [over 80/under 80]

What's blue shoes discord id

>>40242012
You should delete Elliott out of it, because his music is too beautiful to kill oneself to.

>>40243618
the idea of you photoshopping that together is the saddest thought i've had in months

>>40243837
'ok'

>>40243618
I don't think fil would appreciate being put in the same image and even associated with that mentally ill guy desu. A friend told me that. Just saying.

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Okay, NOW it's done!

I don't think... I'm missing anyone? :)

>>40243905
What's this about a "bench revelation" people have been talking about?

Also thoughts on gnucks 3xadv binch

>>40243905
Add a dinosaur head

>>40240713
>sheiko train into the sun

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>>40243939

>What's this about a "bench revelation" people have been talking about?

Something I should've been working on instead of the meme.

>gnucks 2x adv binch

Kind of sheiko-lite, but less volume on the bench and more volume on accessories.

>>40243039
you told me only meet numbers matter

Do you guys wear gloves? Would I look like a fag if I wear gloves but can't lift much?

My hands are just always sweaty.

>>40243997
Use some chalk

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>tfw cutting

How is plg doing? How's training going?

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>>40240713
Anyone here have any experience with leather diddylift slippers? Should i get one size down, up or buy my normal shoe size?

Also, how is it that my brand new romaleos 3 (0.75 in heel height) has lower heel than my adidas powerlifts 2.0 (0.6 heel height)
Fault in production perhaps?

>>40243997
Chalk if your gym allows it. Don't need anything special. I have a small baggy of chalk I bought off amazon for $8 that's lasted me 6 months by now.

My depression is ruining my life and beginning to ruin my studying.
I've lost all motivation to even get out of bed.

>>40244015
You mean something like these?

http://www.liftinglarge.com/Deadlift-Slippers

I got the same foot size and they fit well, but my pinky toe and area around it poke out and don't touch the padding that the foot is meant to rest on making me feel a bit awkward. Could just be me though.

>>40243997
Gloves are for pussies and make it harder for you to hold the bar. Chalk it up famalam

>>40244025
>lost all motivation to even get out of bed.
dont worry about it lad, its more or less time to be getting into bed anyway

>>40244015

It should have extra 0.5cm of heel inside the heel cup.

>>40244043
If I just stop getting out of bed what would happen

>>40243905

Who's that in the stars?

>>40244058
You'll feel even worse.

>>40244062

ssb and marcel

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Add blueshoe's on Facebook, check out his YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/4E5L32imvsM), and be sure to subscribe!

>>40243740
gayyy LOL

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>>40243905
This would have been the best for Jesus desu

>>40244058
bed sores with added loneliness but with a chance of dying peacefully in sleep
you could also get knocked down crossing the road in the morning

pick your poison

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Kek

What's one of Elliot smiths best songs? Just discovered him.

>>40243905
me, but I've never posted face so it's ok

>>40244036
No i mean leather ones

http://www.roguecanada.ca/metal-deadlift-slippers

Do these break in/get loose overtime? If yea should i get half/one size smaller instead?

>>40243618
but why are they going into the sun?

>>40244189
Crash and burn
https://youtu.be/a6LKBBa4Lmk

>>40244189
they are going to burn out soon

>>40244189

It's a joke :')

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>>40244095

kekkk I thought about it but I'd feel bad if I used that one for him while everyone else is looking qt and smiling

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>>40244189
If I explain the joke I ruin it

>>40244025
Me too man wanna talk?

Is it just depression or something else too?

>>40244375
I'm not opposed to talking, I just know it will attract a lot if negative attention talking here. But who cares I guess lel.

Definitely stems from something else, it is depression. I've just been super lonely since I was 14, many years later and my situation hardly improved. It's just taken its toll on me, doesn't help that I'm a reserved person as a result.

I do it to myself.

>>40244418
I can feel your pain, friend.

The loneliness hits me hard sometimes too. I have some "friends" but I can't really connect to them and I feel like they hate me.

Don't just lay in bed though. If you're really feeling depressed and unmotivated, just say fuck it and go all in with lifting. 7 days a week, high as fuck volume. What've you got to lose? It'll boost your mood, you might not make strength gains but at least it'll help you mentally

I got a song for you, feels fitting for these times we are in

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0RHFbJ5Mpzs

>>40244459
>loneliness hits me hard sometimes too. I have some "friends" but I can't really connect to them and I feel like they hate me.
Yep, same, except I don't have to think, they just tell me kek. Which makes me question why I'm such an unlikable character.
It's not so much that I'm unliked, it's why. I just don't know why...

I pretty much just study, lift and listen to music right now. That is my life. Can't even be bothered to run a program, haven't been bothered to do any proper training, just what I want as that makes me happiest, but it's all a temporary fix and what not.

Pretty cool song, have one for yourself
https://youtu.be/HsixXCnYVfA

>>40244418
everything is going to be alright dino

>>40240942
just ohp up to a heavy single every single day for a month

What are some good exercises for the bottom part of the bench press?

>>40244531
So funny, kid

>>40244544
Spoto presses, pin press on a low setting, long pause bench

>>40244546
youll look back and see im right

>>40243905
didn't make it to the meme :(

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>>40243268
Femurchads /out/

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blueshoe's BTN press 115lb??? wtf

>>40244642
who gives a fuck

>>40244642
blueshoes is a weak little loser with shit form

>>40244015
because you aren't actually looking at the change in heel height, just the outside of the shoe

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>>40244636
>tfw only 40cm femurs at 191cm height

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>>40243268

>has shorter femurs than me
>still squats less

>>40244951
>>40244636

>tfw 16in femurs at 6'2"

>>40245040
I honestly have no clue how my squat is so trash when I have literal memurs.

20 inch femurs at 6ft.
Fuck squats

>>40245071
>complaining about genetics instead of just trying hard and sticking with it

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>tfw 35cm femurs
>21.5% of my total height

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>>40245059

Just try harder desu.

Also I benched 300 today with like a .5 second pause.

>>40245071
You're literally average

>>40245114
I am. Gonna record my sets tomorrow, see if there's any improvement form wise. Good job :)

>>40245092
No complaints I just fucking hate squats.

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>>40245123

Thanks benchad. Means a lot coming from you.

Have a 10/10.

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Skills test this Saturday
Nervous

Gonna be messing around with a variant on the Issuances of Insanity program.

This is going to be a distinctly kill or cure couple of months.

>>40245232

I believe in you frogman.

>>40240713

I AM VERY UPSET I WAS INCLUDED IN THE SHEIKO TRAIN AND DIDN'T HAVE MY OWN USS 5/3/1

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>>40245340

WE CAN'T ALL BE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES POOPTINE!

>>40244636

Our femurs are the same length. My Femurs are ~28% of my height.

>>40245340

You are in the train but you're mad about it :P

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>tfw woke up after 3 hours of sleep
>can't fall asleep again

>>40245442
Iktfb, basically got lmao no sleep last night. Gonna try to make up for it tonight.

>>40245442
>>40245459

Doing some cardio and sticking to a set sleep schedule can help.

>>40245465
So can smoking some weed which is what I just did

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>>40245459
Luckily tomorrow (today) should be not too hard, only doubles at 80%.

Do have tons of classes and a presentation tomorrow though.

>>40245465
I'm in bed before midnight every day and I've recently started doing cardio three times a week.

Don't know what it is man, I just woke up by myself and feel very alert.

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>>40245442
>>40245459
>mfw sleeplets complain about unable to fall asleep while I always get my minimum of 8 hours a day and always feel refreshed the next day
Just kill yourselves sleeplest kek. Oh wait, your livers will do that for me lmaoooooo

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>>40245516
delet

>>40245488

That shit just happens sometimes too. Honestly when that happens to me I'll take some NyQuil or zquil and go back to bed pretty easily.

>>40245530
I would rather not destroy my body by imbibing drugs, besides I'd have to wake up in 3 hours to go to class anyway

>>40245552

If it's not a common occurrence there's no reason why you'd destroy your body taking some over the counter sleep aids. ZMA and melatonin are also great for helping you sleep.

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>>40245565
I don't take any drugs whatsoever, not even ibuprofen. I only take certain vitamins.

>>40245465
I do stick to a schedule, sleep just got fucked up last night for whatever reason

>>40245479
Not too bad at all, good luck

>>40245516
>Feeling refreshed after 8 hours
This has never happened to me once in my entire life. I need like 10 hours minimum to feel like I'm refreshed/recovered.

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>>40245600
I can guarantee you'll be able to sleep like a baby after a night with me Bobby

>>40245596
>zma and melatonin are drugs
man my multi vitamin must be a drug too then

>>40245613
Frig off he's mine

>>40245650
Taking melatonin supplements are literally equivalent to taking exogenous hormones. That definitely counts as drugs in my book.

I didn't address ZMA on the other hand, that's fine, though either way I was talking about the sleeping medicine.

>>40245664
You snooze you lose faggot lmao

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>>40245669
HOLY TOP KEK
Shit my vit c supp had now made me not natty shit dudes

>>40245775
>taking exogenous doses of hormones is equivalent to taking what is essentially food
m8

>>40245669
How many chromosomes you got buddy?

>>40245804
>uncritically taking an exogenous hormone
I bet you think antidepressants are safe too

>>40245669

>taking 5mg of melatonin before bed to help sleep is the same thing as cycling HGH, test, dbol, and every other steroid you can imagine

>>40245804
Sorry im trying to take my stack of naturally acurring chem/vit oh i mean exogenous hormones

>>40245839
I'm not saying it's equally bad, I'm just saying I'd rather not fuck with my hormones and brain chemistry.

I know doing that kind of stuff is considered fairly normal in America, but here it's not.

baiting harder than a fat chick falls

>>40245864
>in america

Man do you pray the flu away too bud?

>>40245864

>Taking melatonin supplements are literally equivalent to taking exogenous hormones.

Yes you are.

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Spot the difference:

- Metalonin
>is produced naturally by the body
>doesn't enhance performance (can actually be detrimental)
>brings no benefit if taken in excess, only detriments and risks
>if you have deficiency (due to night shifts or lights), it helps get your sleep back to NORMAL

- Vitamin D
>is produced naturally by the body
>enhances performance, increases strength, speed and power, and enhances muscle hypertrophy
>reduces risk of stress fractures and major breaks in athletes
>brings no benefit it taken in excess, only detriments and risks
>if you have deficiency, taking extra by diet or sun exposure highly improves your performance

- Testosterone
>is produced naturally by the body
>enhances performance, increases strength, speed and power, and enhances muscle hypertrophy
>can increase the risk of injuries
>brings many benefits (and risks) if taken in excess, and continues to enhance performance even on very high dosages
>if you have deficiency, taking extra will highly improve your performance

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>>40245669
Tip top kek desu

>>40245879
I never get sick, but whenever I did as a kid, I would never go to the doctor and just take bed rest, works fine.

>>40245893
Vitamin D is found in food, melatonin is synthesized from cow brains using degenerate jew magicks, that's the difference.

>>40245915

I appreciate the "k" in "magicks" it made it feel very authentically autistic.

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>>40245915

Cow organs = food
Last I checked, brain is an organ.

Only reason we don't eat brains is because of prions.

So yes, both melatonin and vitamin D can be supplemented with food.

No difference here.

>>40245613
Hank p-please

>>40245664
W-who is this

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>>40245915
Uhh excuse you we could get organic melatonin now shitlord

>>40245893
>not injecting all of these substances

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>>40245944
Your body doesn't make vitamin D though, it needs it from an outside source.
>>40245937
Enjoy your antibiotics, antidepressants, birth control goyim, meanwhile I'll stay healthy and with a functioning immune and endocrine system

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Reminder that in 1927, vitamin D was target of doping controversies and used to enhance athletic performance.
And in fact, they weren't even taking pills. They were using SUNLAMPS to NATURALLY produce more Vitamin D.

Melatonin was never target of any doping controversy and never used to enhance athletic performance (at least not directly).

Defending Vitamin D and attacking Melatonin is pure hypocrisy and lack of understanding.

>>40245964

>YOUR BODY DOESN'T MAKE VITAMIN D THOUGH

Holy fucking kek

Skipping highschool classes much?

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>>40245964
>Your body doesn't make vitamin D though
But what about your penis? That's a type of D and it gets hard like a mineral.

>>40245974
Melatonin is secreted from the pineal gland, you can't make vitamin D without either food or exposure to UVB, I don't see the equivalence

>>40245964

>antibiotics
Haven't taken them since I had my wisdom teeth removed.

>antidepressants
You must have me confused with a hormonecuck.

>birth control
Sorry, I like being able to fuck my fiance raw and not have to worry about anything ever.

You know you can take shit as long as you're responsible about it, right?

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>>40246002
good goy

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>>40245992

You can't produce melatonin without non-exposure to UVB.

You can't produce vitamin D without exposure to UVB.

Really makes you think...

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>>40245896

>works fine

No it doesn't, it has directly and permanently affected your brain.

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>>40246002
Yeah, having a gf on birth control is the best thing ever. I'm going to Ohio tomorrow and going to have so much raw sex.

>>40246010

>I must live my life without any affordable drugs courtesy of modern medicine because then the Jews win!

>>>/pol/

>>40246038

Bring me New Glarus, nerd.

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>>40244015
I'm using this for deadlifts. I love it, but I guess it would be hard to find it outside Japan.

>>40246045
Wisconsin doesn't sell alcohol after 9 pm and I'm leaving super early tomorrow.

I'm gonna visit again later in February, so I'll bring some then.

>>40246040

>>40246040

>>40246040

>>40246040

>>40246040

>>40246050

It's called deadlift slippers...

>>40245821

Stop that.

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>>40246056

>>40246045
Modern medicine is degenerate. Anything beyond bonesetting and closing stitches is not something I will partake in.
>>40246030
What did he mean by this
>>40246012
>You can't produce vitamin D without exposure to UVB.
Sure you can, that's why God invented cod liver oil
>>40246002
>I had my wisdom teeth removed.
GOOD GOY
>birth control
enjoy de novo mutations and weak offspring

>>40246088

They were all impacted and the bottom ones were literally coming in horizontally.

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>>40246068

>>40246107
That's because your palate was cucked by shitty zogfeed and orthodontics.

Let me guess, you had braces as a child, right?

>>40246088
>Modern medicine is degenerate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu4y7x9LRyY

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>>40246088

>Sure you can, that's why God invented cod liver oil

>he wants to get all his vitamin D from cod liver oil

Enjoy:

Abnormal softening of the skull bone (craniotabes—infants and children)
Blurred vision
Bone pain or swelling
Bulging fontanelle (infants)
Changes in consciousness
Decreased appetite
Dizziness
Double vision (young children)
Drowsiness
Headache
Gastric mucosal calcinosis
Heart valve calcification
Hypercalcemia
Increased intracranial pressure manifesting as cerebral edema, papilledema, and headache[4] (may be referred to as Idiopathic intracranial hypertension)
Irritability
Liver damage
Nausea
Poor weight gain (infants and children)
Skin and hair changes
Cracking at corners of the mouth
Hair loss
Higher sensitivity to sunlight
Oily skin and hair (seborrhea)
Premature epiphyseal closure
Skin peeling, itching
Spontaneous fracture
Yellow discoloration of the skin (aurantiasis cutis)
Uremic pruritus
Vision changes
Vomiting

from the toxic effects of hypervitaminosis A.

>>40246057
I'm this ->>>40246050
Actually what I posted is a kind of 'tabi' which is used when rice planting, working on the fields, etc. My Japanese powerlifting friends recommended it to me, because it's really cheap here.

>>40246131

Cool.
It's literally the same shit as deadlift slippers.

>>40246124
When there is no sun of course. Which is a good part of the year where I live.
>>40246123
Even Rousseau knew this, see "Emile, Or on Education".

>>40246116

I never had braces, I've only ever had dentist work done twice. Once for a hole that was created when my tooth was forming and once as a 7 year old after my sister dropped me on my chin to get a few teeth pulled after playing airplane.

You just fell for the Jew meme too hard.

>>40246143

What about if you live in an area or have a job where you can't get away from the lights, so your body doesn't produce enough melatonin?

HMMMMMMMMMM REALLY MAKES YOU THINK.

>>40246138
Basically yes. Just half the price

>>40246040

>>40246040

>>40246040

>>40246040

>>40246040

>>40246156
Then you have a lifestyle issue caused by the same problems that cause the need for jew medicine.
>>40246153
Did you eat soft jewish zogfeed? Did you grow up gnawing on bones and eating raw parsnips and beets?

>>40246164

LET US ARGUE ABOUT WHY ANON IS STUPID IN THE DEAD THREAD!

>>40246172

I was picky as fuck as a child, but potatoes, carrots, and crusty, chewy bread were common in my diet.

>>40246172

Same in your case, except:

- someone taking melatonin supplements will have no side effects

- you getting all your vitamin D from cod liver will intoxicate you with hypervitaminosis A and you'll have severe side effects

Really makes you think.

>>40246183
>implying I'll get hypervitaminosis A from taking two swigs of cod liver oil a day
ok dude
>>40246182
Well, wisdom tooth extraction reveals a developmental issue. I don't know why it's affected you, but you have one.

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>>40246193

Implying two swigs of cod liver oil a day is enough vitamin D.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

ENJOY BEING KEKED OUT OF YOUR STRENGTH AND MUSCLE GROWTH

>>40246202
>implying I don't do at least 20 minutes a day sunlight exposure directly to balls during spring and summer