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Calorie/Macro Counting

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Is calorie counting a meme? I always listen to top-tier bodybuilders talk about how they never track anything, no macros, no calories... They just eat more, or eat less based on if they are bulking or cutting... How do they do this?
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Because they spent years counting calories so they know exactly what they are putting in their body anyway.
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>>40226577
Remember that top tier bodybuilders are on steroids.
Counting calories isn't needed, it's just much easier to lose and gain weight that way
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>>40226596
A little bit of this.
And alot of steroids.
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Top-tier bodybuilders generally have 5000-8000+ TDEEs, stay single digit bodyfat year round, and use their drugs to hold onto their muscle.

Who the fuck would need to track macros to get lean with a fucking 5-8k TDEE + drugs holding onto your muscle for you.

For us normal people with 2-3k TDEE's, you will have to track if you want to get shredded unless you're incredibly in tune with your body.
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>>40226577

Fair chance they counted calories for years and now know how much they're eating based on experience.
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