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Fraud Wars - The Last Breh edition.

Previously on I didn't read the last thread at all... >>40209220
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>>40216642
Asked in last thread but got no replies cuz no one in fraud even talks about cycles anymore, BUT:

Can anyone who's done a deca/ test cycle post pics of their before and after? Or stories of how they felt, what sides they got, their strength gains etc
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Will masculinisation from steroids cause my taint to grow? Really hate my sub 2.05" anogenital distance.
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>>40216662
Deca is cool. I never really ran it alone, just low dose along side tren to protect my joints.
Future tren blasts will include Ostarine and extra GH/TB500 instead of deca for joint protection.
>>40216702
>Will steroids cause my taint to grow?
No but MK-677 will!
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>>40216702
I had slight growth and definite hardness gains whilst on cycle of only moderate test-e
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>>40216240
>dat perfectly square biceps
how

>>40216702
>Really hate my sub 2.05" anogenital distance
/fit/ will always find something to feel inadequate for, won't it
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Incoming absolutely retarded question

I know you are meant to change the needle every pin, does this include the actual plastic syringe part as well?

If you are pinning 2 substances do you change needles and use the same syringe or do you use 2 completely different needle/syringes?

I tried researching online but people usually just guffaww at how dumb this question is and they don't fucking answer it.
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>>40216838
lmao
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>>40216702
Why do you wanna grow your taint anyway? Gonna go tranny and get a vagina?
>>40216838
Jesus fucking christ...
Change the whole needle and syringe combo every time.
They come in sterile packages...
How would they stay sterile after you remove them from the sterile packaging and use them...
dewd cmon!
>>40216870
Lenny likes Trump? I guess everyone has at least one positive trait
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>>40216838
you have a seperate needle for drawing the solution out of the vial and injecting it into yourself. Dont change the syringe here.
Once you have injected the solution into yourself, throw away both needles (into a sharps container) and the syringe.

I would use 2 different syringes (2 different injections)
However some people do draw 2 different solutions into the same syringe. This means you only have to pin once, however you run the risk of contaminating your solutions

Hope this helps
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>>40216881
>grow taint
>vagina
taintlet cope
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>>40216889
Not an expert on tranny surgeries but I am pretty sure they put the new lady hole in the taint area so they miss the bladder and other organs.
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>>40216923
yes they do which means that the actual size of the taint is reduced
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>>40216927
Then growing your taint would be beneficial if you were wanting to be a tranny right?

In other news I am gonna try to be around here more. Been hanging out in this new chat with some pretty cool cats hence my absence here lately.
Day 3 of my first time ever using DNP. Ears feel warm and I am up 2lbs despite PSMF. I think I am gonna add in CJC1295 today maybe.
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>>40217008
>CJC1295
Explain like I'm five please. I've read about such but I am too dumb to fully grasp the concept.
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>>40217062
>CJC1295
It's an injectable growth hormone secretagogue. You inject it and your body produces more human growth hormone.
That's as simple as I can make it.
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>>40217008
Ruined her fucking hot body and got disgusting man veins
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>>40217102
Seems reasonable, I was unsure about the differences to some of the others (honorable mention memek), but I guess it really does not matter. How big IS your secretagogue stack in its entirety? I've read in your posts about like six different compounds by now.
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>>40216642
Why use SARMs? They're more expensive than Test-E and have weaker results from what I can see
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>>40217105
>Ruined her fucking hot body and got disgusting man veins
Well ever since I caught the gay from the steroids I really really like women who are actually men.
>>40217129
I have only ever used memek. I am gonna add in the CJC this time to help lose weight and also to heal any damage from the DNP. So plan is 50mg memek/day and 1mg CJC eod.
>>40217184
You use both unless you are a grill.
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>>40216636

most of the retard kids on this board want to look like I do, they don't want to look like they have any kind of muscle mass

also you probably are some retard powerfatty delusional 99% bodyfat 0 lean mass natty lurker desu
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>>40217226
Ah, I see. Well, thanks for sharing. If you'll ever add in any more absurd concoctions I'll need three tries to even spell the name of, please post results. Heavily interested.
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>>40217272
I will get bloodwork at these doses.
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>>40217337
Nice. Please post asap.

>pic
Some however small faith in humanity restored.
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>>40217265

also just go to plg and take a look around

>>40217455

I'm mirrin'
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Went to the doctor to check my testosterone levels and I chose to check my prolactin. Did I make the wrong choice? Can I get steroids with low levels?
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JBFLGF
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>>40217226
Plz be w/o dac
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>>40217532

Didn't see your post NatT.

There no goals, just get as big as I can. 14.25 inches now, dry and depleted, I will measure them at pump and bulking for some nice estatting.

I'd like to have 200" arms, duh.

As far as mires just from girls, but it's the mastic gum and the tiny twink physique they are Mirrin.

How guys on this board even get excited about mires from GIRLS who think Tyler durden is 'jacked' and 'huge'

>guys posting about getting mired by girls

Congrats so you're fucking tiny little fight club twink bitch? Or maybe unironically dyel , and just have a twinkle in your eyes? Why you act like you achieved something.

This board really shitty desu girls girls girls. MasT is right.
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>>40217885

Also as you know NaT weight means nothing when someone is taller and fatter than you, obviously. All that matters is how you look at the same angle in the same lighting the same distance from the mirror, that is the test.

I hope one day I can match your pics (obviously today, not you in years...) in the same conditions and that will be a personal milestone for me
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>>40214830
>0 test old self
>Anyways I went from 0 Ng/l probably, to normal and happy guy without TRT just from lifestyle changes like I posted before. So anons should consider that before TRT

You should stop pretending you have low test levels or any knowledge of how changing hormones affects your personality until you post your baseline bloods, take a blood test, or jump on and experience these things yourself. You are talking out of your ass until then.

You're a cool guy with a great progress story but when you start talking about stuff you don't know it really shows.

>>40215714
>How I can post about doing supersets for 20-30 hours a week and how I can post about my diet and then ppl look at my progress and say "genetics and test levels

Don't be surprised when people posting on a thread about hormones look at stuff through the lens of hormones. When you change them up enough you start to see the role they play in how your body is composed and even in how your mind functions.

It's not weakness of will that makes us make these associations. Do you think it's mental weakness when masT admits that high doses of mast make him paranoid and shed hair? Should he just MAN UP and will his paranoia away? Command his hair to stay in place by sheer force of will?

I didn't mean to discount your 4 hours in the gym 7 days a week. God knows you're probably in the top 1% on /fit/ in terms of the amount of dedication you have. But to ignore that you have some blessings/benefits that enable and allow your willpower to thrive is just egotistical.
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>>40217950

I went from having every classical symptom of low test to feeling normal, and concidently that also came along when I stopped being such a sad sack and got my old job in electronic scrap and had goals and motivations in life... as well as sleeping more... hmmm...

I am not claiming that every guy with low test symptoms (or even low test) can cure it by fixing lifestyle, but clean diet and having goals in life and sleeping more and being happy, I really believe for some guys, this can fix your self imposed low test it's not really low test, it's just bad lifestyle tanking your test

>>40217950

I dunno, I'll get basic bloodwork. I think sometimes people don't put a lot of effort in and then they don't make progress and it's the lack of effort not "genetics".

Like, there is a guy who posts in CBT, the blonde male model, who has test levels of 293? Ngl IIrC and is natty and he looks thick, solid, tight.

He looks a lot better than I do with more test. Maybe it's because he trained longer than I did, months versus years? Just maybe...

I uh, I feel bad about shitposting here and stuff, I realiZe that steroids are a required tool to reach a certain physique that I myself one day hope to achieve.

But in particular, moosey's roid use, just, this is silly, the guy has a lot of passion, work ethic, dedication, and look at his results?

And he is roiding for girls thinking that extra inches on his arms will be the difference? Come on moosey, why are you doing this.

I bet other guys here are doing this and why? stop

Where is moosey? What a great guy, I hope he's ok.
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>>40217226
Do you take your MemeK capped or in solution? Been thinking of capping some myself. Did you ever make a tutorial for capping?
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how do I get my doctor to give me testosterone cypionate instead of this nebido stuff? Also will he let me inject at home by myself?

20 year old Irish boy been on trt about 6 months. I've heard on an irish forum of someone on cypionoate but can't find it listed on irish medical database websites for prescription medicines. Seems all EU people get put on nebido over cypionoate even though I'm told cypionoate injected once per week gives a more stable testosterone reading all year round.
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>>40218038
>it's just bad lifestyle tanking your test
OK, this kinda just erased the problems I had with your earlier posts. This is no doubt the #1 problem for a large majority of the CBT fatties who self-diagnose low test.

However, if you have legit hypogonadism, no amount of lifestyle changes is going to raise you to average levels of test. You're just stuck with shitty recovery/stamina/willpower and probably all sorts of other shit genetics compounding your situation.

That being said, most people with "self imposed low test" are probably just living shitty lifestyles as you described. I think it is fair to criticize those people but there's really no way to know who is in what category without bloods and using HCG to determine whether primary/secondary hypogonadism is present.

> the blonde male model, who has test levels of 293? Ngl IIrC and is natty and he looks thick, solid, tight.

Will have to keep an eye out for him. Haven't really seen this.

I mean I will concede that a lot can be accomplished on low test levels. But sometimes test levels can really hold you back.

Check out this guy: http://ironandtweed.com/my-low-t-journey-one-year-on-trt/ in his "Muscle and Strength Gains" section. On the left is his 6 years (YEARS) progress. You look better than him now.

I don't know if you can blame his effort because once he got on gear (and that too just the higher end of TRT levels) his physique just went to another level. So when I see things like that I think that the only thing holding them back is the physical component.

>Where is moosey?
Yeah I am wondering this too. Moosey is a cool guy. Very motivational but he has a different style that is more happiness centered like masT.
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Starting my first cycle next week
Sust 250 1ml twice/week for 12 weeks
20mg dbol/day for first 4 weeks
Nolva for pct
Arimadex on hand just in case

Am I forgetting anything?
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Fuck me, French porn company executive who's meeting me in Paris got a new job and never updated his stuff. My dream is fucking dying.

At least I'll have a cool French guy to show me around Paris. I'm totally hitting up the red light district before pissing off to the countryside.

God damn it all why can't my life be ez mode.
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>>40218168
Faurk I'm actually so disappointed. Maybe he still has connections in the industry tho.
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>>40218148

I felt my low test symptoms go away even when I was stil a fat guy, it was just being positive and having goals and stuff.

I didn't really care about anything in life, just going through the mototions with no goal or purpose, of course, of course my test was fucking tanked

How can you even live like that, Idk what I was thinking.

Now I have a purpose, I want to be happy, and bodybuilding, my hobby + I wanna be pretty, the mastic gum, and stuff like that.

Doesn't matter how retarded the shit you care about is, just figure out something you know? and care about it.

I hope moosey's ok, he is roiding while living with his mom, maybe he got thrown out of the house or something. I hope not.

That's one of the reason's I'm natty still, live in my mom's basement, don't wanna risk it.

>>40218168

lol, u going bimbo mode?

Everyone here in porn except me, and I have such a nice bottom boy twink physique for it

hmm...
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>>40218130
Is that shit once per month?

If so, it's obviously a lot cheaper for them to provide due to less doctors visits for them to inject the shit.

I guess you can ask them if you can do the injections yourself and mention that you've been reading up on it and have found that test e (better known is Europe than cyp) is better for mood stability... If he says no then you can always pick a week of the month and consistently say that you feel much worse on that week for 6 months running and he would then have reason to try a new method.


Or even better yet, continue with these monthly injections and buy some cyp yourself and inject like 75ml each week yourself as a little extra and also to help stabilize yourself if you genuinely do feel like there would be a difference.


How'd you get the script at such a young age? I know a guy who wanted free test (free here, not sure about where you are) so he got me to give him some of my blood during PCT and he sent it to his doc and he got confirmed for low testosterone lol now he gets it free for life.
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>>40218220
>Money
>Sex with super model tier French girls
>Get to go full exhibitionist mode
>Fun
>did I mention hardcore/bdsm sex with super model tier French girls and there isn't a single gay part of their entire network excluding lesbian scenes?

Why tf wouldn't I?

I could be a better pic related.
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>>40218168
he'll still have friends in the industry that he can introduce you to, i wouldn't worry too much.

have him watch you fuck a prostitute to demonstrate your abilities
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>>40218258
>you should go literally cuck the first friend you make overseas

I love 4chan.

Fr tho him having friends in the industry he'll be able to introduce me to is what I'm counting on at this point. I guess he works for some other kind of French tv network now.
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>>40217880
>Plz be w/o dac
No it's actual CJC although I do also have mod grf.
>>40218051
I take it capped and no I will not be doing a tutorial for that.
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>>40218249

Enjoy bro.

I think I am becoming a meme

>girlie is telling me that I'm "really big" and "ripped" (seriously)
>feel need to inform her that my FFMI is low and that you need to be at least a shredded 190 lbs at my height to call yourself that
>feel compelled to remind her I am no where near contest condition

Instead I was like like 'aww your sweet lol'

You so dysmorphic natT, you are actually ripped but you don't consider yourself ripped right?

How do you deal with this kind of attention, just pretend like you think you're big?
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>>40218235
yeah it's supposed to be a really long-lasting ester and I come in for injection every six weeks. To be honest the nebido seems to work really well just don't like paying the extra €40 each time I get injected.

And no, prescription meds aren't free here but I think there's a cap on how much a household can get charged for medication, think something like €200 per month.


>Or even better yet, continue with these monthly injections and buy some cyp yourself and inject like 75ml each week yourself as a little extra and also to help stabilize yourself

too pussy to buy homemade but the thought has crossed my mind
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>>40218316
Smh
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>>40218383
>Smh
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>>40218353
I don't even know what I am anymore dood. If I can hit 25 ffmi natty I might be content to maintain until my 30's/40's but that requires me to build more mass than I want on my legs.
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Holy shit
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So, made some GW solution a few weeks ago and didn't touch it (decided to save it for lipid support if I ever run var) since then. Took a peek at it this morning and saw that it had kinda separated.

Anyone have an idea of the shelf life of these compounds in solution? I assume that in my case that it is just kinda "crashed" and should be fine, since I just shook the bottle up after taking the picture and it looked normal afterward. But it did get me thinking whether I made a mistake in making the solution way in advance of when I want to be using it.
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Sorta off topic:

If I'm using Tutanota to email my source, am I expected to use PGP as well? That shit is confusing.
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>>40213713
That's true, he should not take me as an example. I suffer from extreme body dysphoria and delude myself to think i will eventually get to my final form but never will

FOREVER SKINNY
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>>40218516
Depends on the source. I've dealt with two that don't want to use PGP if they have tutanota too (i.e., both people use tutanota) and have dealt with two others that want to use PGP even though we're both using tutanota.

Ask if they have a public key they want to send you before sending them anything sensitive.
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>>40218529
You wear the same outfit to the gym or just use the same two photos?
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>>40218529
do you post the same pics every time, or pay autistic attention to taking them the same way for comparison purposes? honest question
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>>40218545
>>40218548
This, gentlemen, is called hivemind.
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>>40218548
>>40218545
kek

>>40218540
Yea I emailed one of them to see if it was necessary. Im super impatient right now because my source on DM is utter shit and doesnt have a tracking number for me after 16 days. Im gonna open a dispute tomorrow cause cash is in escrow. How goddamn hard is it to deliver what someone pays for? Now Ill get a refund and wasted weeks.
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>>40218548
>>40218545
I have posted like 1000 pictures already and you have posted zero pictures, so how much does you opinion mean again?

that's right don't talk me again, unless you think can talk on my level
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>>40218545
I can wear the the same clothes every time, i can smell like shit,
It doesn't matter if you are at my level. Nothing can bring me down.

I kek at your lives when you do you utter best to get some attention from some girls, but i am still miles ahead without a SWEAT

O WHAT IS THAT? NO PICS?

OH WHAT IS THAT THE SAME PIC AGAIN

BTFO
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>>40218433
Jesus
Fucking roasties
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>>40218622
M8 you got asked a question and youre losing it
I think you spend too much of your life obsessing over an anonymous imageboard with like 20 active users in /fraud/

>all that compensation

topkekm8
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>>40218635
You know i am the only one who post pictures on here, beside bimbo. Ask for the sake of asking.

i am only obsessing myself here, me, fucking faggot i don't care about anyone else.


WHERE IS THE COMPENSATION I AM THE KING OF THIS BOARD no need for compensation, YOU DARE TO CALL ME INSECURE YOU BETA KEK LORD

no body pics = dyel
no face pics = ugly, sorry i should hate my life if i were you and looking at my pictures
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>>40218433
Im so mad
Stupid sluts

Why won't they sniff my used condoms
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>>40218684
So I'm a beautiful butterfly now that I posted a face pic?

Lookin thicc, solid, tight, dood.
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>>40218756
wimmen were a mistake tb h

i cant get a gf either

where are my khhvbux
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>>40218158
Probably want to pin sust more frequently than that, like ED or EOD. Also with the long esters in sust you're gonna have to wait longer to start PCT. head over to steroidcalc to see what I mean.
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>>40218684
What size clothes you wear?

And what size clothes do you recommend for your body? Should I go up a size just because something is too tight?

Is it all about the tightness?
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>>40218684
Your posts are funny. Keep it up, guy.
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I just ordered a boat load of Dbol...

I'm finna blast and cruise Purely Dbol.

Anything wrong with this?
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>>40218684
>ou know i am the only one who post pictures on here, beside bimbo.

Hmm....

>>40218760

Yeah, I guess I am shredded now because I spam photos of myself here.

>>40218529

ur dysmorphia is why you are so big masT

my dysmorphia is why I made so much progress

How else you gonna get big with no dysmorphia?

I get it now

>>40213713

Nah bimbo, you don't get it.

>o lack complete awareness of Chan culture and how boards operate.

I just don't care, be yourself. DO what makes you happy.

>adopted a personality like MasT

Hmm, I think my personality is actually mirrors glands, I think I myself mirror glands in a lot of ways.

Regardless, I haven't adopted a personality, I am just gland's twin.

>we groomed an infantile young man to seek validation

You are mistaken if you think I want or need your validation bimbo, you're referring to my posts earlier about how I had a better physique than stoya?

That's just I mean, it's a fact, you can't refer to me as small and stoya as big, of course I will open my mouth.

If I refereed to you as dyel, and then someone smaller than you as big, would you NOT open your mouth?

Taking those photos was just objective 100% proof to 'hey, shut up, look, the proof is in front of your face'

Validation from MasT, sure, because I respect and admire Mast, for the things we talked about earlier. Uou, I think you're a guy that doesn't quite want himself to be happy, I think you sabotage yourself on purpose.

I think you know what you need and what you want from life but you don't love yourself enough to just do it.

All I want from YOU is to figure out your shit and do what is best for you, but I fear that's never going to happen.

Anyways you can call me as many names as you want bimbo, infantile, this, that, it's fine, they are porbally true.

It don't bother me, just don't call me small, and stoya big, that bothers me, because it's just not true, lol.

Ignoring me clearly won't make me go away PS
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reminder to hide and filter alex posts
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>>40218876
Yeah your test levels will go down to zero and you'll feel like an eighty year old man.
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>>40218784
I dont get it
Dont we have value
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>>40218953
Nobody has any value, life is meaningless and we're all gonna die.
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>>40218940
But I'll be taking Dbol you fu king moron

>inb4 dbol doesn't function as a replacement for test
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>>40218975
Nothing functions as a replacement for test. Certain things can act like test in some cases (aka anabolic steroids) but nothing can fully replace it.
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>>40218898
Yeah you're right but pulling some mod strings I have will. #l8r boyo ur gettin banned.
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>>40218876
post tits when finished
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>>40218959
Everything has value, but its all relative

Doesnt stop life from being meaningless though
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>>40218991

oh ok, you gonna need to bend over for this, or just get on your knees bimbo?

at least u usually get paid for this

>worthy last post
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>>40218991
The hero fraud needs
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>>40218990
Prove it.

Because Dbol binds to all the same receptors, even if it's not in the same ratios, it won't matter, especially not at high doses.
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>>40219040
Oh, I see, you're just trolling.
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>>40218898
>I am just gland's twin.

Do you unironically view this as a positive thing? The clusterfuck you two create in these once enjoyable threads makes so much more sense now that I know that you consider yourself to be his twin.

I liked your attitude better as a fat but humble and helpful guy. Glands is not a good role model.

>>40218917
Fucking how? He just anon posts nowdays.

>>40218991
PLEASE let this happen.
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>>40219040
I can shove my cock into your ass receptor, this means it is a vagina
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>>40219081
You should teach high school biology
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>>40218990
Trestolone does. Also tren was looked at for trt in a study,so own its own in smaller doses who knows.
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>>40219079

I don't think it's even gonna happen desu.

>>40219079

>role model role model

You people need to learn that I am just me, I am not mast or glands or nobody, just alex.

I don't see how bimbo thinks I even want to emulate him, I mean, I am not getting cucked hardcore by a 2/10 atm and getting fucked in the ass.

everyone is their own person.

I admire gland's ability to get endless enjoyment from the stupidity of others. Most people just see stupidity and they think 'that's stupid' both glands and I are able to really just laugh or asses off, we enjoy life to the fullest.

Anyways, I have shit to do, so I'll stop shitting up your thread for now, and post back later just to show that I wasn't banned.

bimbo daily reminder your "roomate" is getting some on the side for sure, 1000%, and I think you know it?

ANd no, not just the porn work, that you "dont mind" because it's "work"
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>>40219116
If Trestolone perfectly imitated test, it wouldn't have the effect on sperm that it does.
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>>40219117
My roommate doesn't work in porn and she isn't seeing anyone on the side. I live with her I'd know. Jesus Christ I had some empathy for you but you're just bad dude.
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>>40219117
Aww, that's cute. Alex is scared of big bad bimbo :)
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>>40219144

>bait me nonstop
>insult me nonstop
>never said anything bad to you
>call me ugly
>call me this
>call me that
>turned the other cheek for 4 months
>'I'm gonna get you banned bro just gonna suck this dick brb'

'Bad dude'

Nah bimbo, not at all, stop pretending like you have any moral highground here, fuck you.

U realize I never said anything to you, never even told you that your roomate is sucking 1000 dicks while you're at GNC working to get away from her misreable 2/10 deformed looking ass, (literal cuck shed bro), all I did was try to give you advice and shit that you already knew deep in your head

and you just keep pushing my buttons and insulting me hoping for a fucking reaction

but I was like nah, you know what, this guy, he 's got some kind of problem in his life to have a problem with me when I did nothing too him, I'll just be the bigger man and be friendly with him and show him respect.

But you had to just keep pushing and see how big of a fucking asshole you could be, fuck you dude.

Get off your high fucking horse

Congrualtions, after 4 months you pissed me enough to drag me down to your fucking level, you win bro, you did it.

Lol @ me wanting to emulate an anxious quivering fucking wreck getting cucked and fucked in the ass nonstop who flames autistic guys on 4chan (for nothing/did nothign to you) , yeah, that's what I want with my life, be just like you dude.

mirrin etc
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>>40219209
3....2.....1....
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>>40219209
U mad bro?
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>>40219209
That was dumb. Half of that shit is just made up so whew.

Anyways guys, talking with an anon last night, I'm inclined to agree: no AI even with no physical sides, probably isnt the best route. You can go low AI and still reap positive benefits of estrogen (anabolism) but the mind fuckery of e2 is just too much to say "no AI".
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>>40219236

Except I'm not getting banned because this fucking guy just like to act like he's so fucking important in some kind of fake narcissism to deal with his crippling anxiety and insecurity

He can't do fucking shit.

Reminder bimbo the reason your "roomate" treats you so shit is because she doesn't respect you. U blame her? You're a massive fucking bitch.

Delusions of grandeur, and not much else.

Keep pretending like you even have a high opinion of yourself and think it isn't 1 million % obvious how low your self esteem is
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>>40219270

Where's my ban you retard?

Let me guess, now you 'forgive me' and 'don't want me banned anymore'

suck my dick, you fucking retard, I'll even pay you for it, it's litterally your job, so get to.

PS: you're going to look REAL stupid after I don't get banned retard , now you did it.
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>>40219117
>we enjoy life to the fullest.
Are you saying the guy who has a self imposed hermit mode because he's too scared to be seen in public with his huge chipmunk glands and has been posting about his angst and desire to kill himself almost non stop for the last two months at least is "enjoying life to the fullest" ???

Now who's defending idiots who don't "deserve" defense just because they're your friend? I don't even mind it. Shows that this kick you're on at least hasn't completely robbed you of the idea of what friendship is.

>gland's ability to get endless enjoyment from the stupidity of others
You are just delusional. Every second post from that kid is "WAA my mom is stupid and my whole family is made of inbred retards. I'm the only special snowflake who sees le true alpha path."

>>40219270
Do you feel like you're able to separate the e2 effects from you lowering the test dose (I assume) and dropping tren? I've always kept e2 under control and whenever I messed up I ended up crashing it (instead of letting it get too high) so I'm just curious about what you think is a uniquely e2 related mental effect.

Remember you attributing a lot of negative mental stuff to tren, which is why I ask.
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>>40219270
How much you taking?

I take 6.25mg asin E3D and it seemed to stop some grumpiness and irritability instead of no AI at all.
Maybe going to bump it to EOD since I have trouble coming
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>>40219270
"No AI feelgood" is the greatest meme of them all. Even if you don't grow tits, you will grow mental ones. I could let my e2 go to where nobody has gone before and still laugh at minimal physical sides but I literally turn into a teenage girl on her period mentally as soon as it raises past a certain point. It's eerie and fucked up.

>talked with an anon
Wasn't he the same one who bangs multiple women but all of them are severely cuckoo? Fun stuff.


>>40219289
I meant to imply your head will literally explode like in the gif from being so infathomably mad. Lay off the EC if you haven't already, go outside and take a deep breath ferchristsake.
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roid'ies

if i inject roids into my cock and pump it alot will it get bigger considering all it is, is a muscle.
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>>40219289
>>40219301
Relax dude. You look dumb as fuck right now.
>>40219314
E2 just seems to create a fog of insecurity which just isn't me. Most people f my friends know me as a go getter or extremely assertive. Even my roommate compliments my character. e2 diminishes that.
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>>40219314

U wait until glands has those glands gone,

He went from so miserable, and he's gonna have everything he wants out of life

he knows what he wants, it's not what I want, but he knows what he wants and he's going to fucking do it.

he's gonna make it like a motherfucker

glands if this fucking gay for pay bottom actually fucking sucks enough dicks to get me banned make a throwaway email and fuckng post it and keep in touch
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>>40219329
>I literally turn into a teenage girl on her period mentally as soon as it raises past a certain point. It's eerie and fucked up.

What do you mean by this? Trying to figure out what a uniquely e2 related mental side effect is. Have you ever been legit low test? Does it compare to that?
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ALEX DETECTED ON OTHER BOARDS

I KNOW IT'S YOU ALEX, GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>40219351
Damn you're mad. If you just chilled and stopped eating meth precursor you'd be cool, you fucking junkie.
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>>40219350

No dude, you said you were going to get me banned so literally, do it.

What do I have to even say for you to have no excuse for me not being banned?

Like I don't know what else I can say that I haven't clearly outlined in broad strokes here

>>40219329

4 months of fucking baiting me, gratz, he did it, he got a reaction, I am int he fucking sewer with him now.
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>>40219349
it literally is not
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>>40219350
>fog of insecurity
Interesting - thanks for the insight. Reminds me a bit of how low T thinking is like. Reading about structural brain changes that result from effects of estrogen maturation in the brain (as happens to girls) had me paranoid about erring on the side of too much AI rather than too little, glad to know it is somewhat justified.

>>40219368
/biz/? Person posting in your screencap seems to have a way higher IQ than alex. Maybe he just dumbs it down here but I think you're just picking up on the autism rather than the underlying personality.
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>>40219368

not me, I don't post on biz, they are all retards roleplaying that think you don't need to work hard to suceed in buisness.

It's a lie.

>>40219370

fuck you, get me banned.

Also you fucking flamed the shit out of me before I was on EC so I was never 'cool'

I don't know how it works in your fucking peanut fucking brain where someone is trying to be friends with you and you think the appropiate course of action is bait them for 4 months with petty, legit, mean girls shit

>you're dyel
>you're ugly
>you're this
>I'm handsome
>I'm taller than you
>I'm shredded

Do you udnerstand how fucking retarded and stupid that shit makes you? You're an actual fucking woman, 1000%, literal, bitch bimbo.

No wonder your "roomate" needs to get it everywhere else and then doesn't have any desire for you, rejects you, except when some other dude hasn't dicked her int he past 2 hours

fuck you dude
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>>40219371
Mostly because mods don't give a fuck dude, even if I do know them.

Dude you're a fucking joke. I do g4p, live with an abusive partner and overall don't enjoy myself. You're not turning over hidden truths, just you're being cracked out on the internet.

Nobody here gives a fuck about my issues but do you see how everyone dislikes you? Leave man. You have no solidarity here. You aren't wanted or welcomed. It's a steroid thread. You're an obnoxious fatty who could t do it on "willpower" like you advertise you need dnp and stims. This is t a bodybuilding community. It's not a community. It's for people like me to make sure we're better than people like you. Leave.
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>>40219402
The boy's got issues, that much is clear.
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>>40219352
Never been true low test, but I guess only the brain fog would be similar. The most prominent sides I notice are quick mood changes, constantly feeling undervalued and judged, and literal trenyoloblast aggression levels no matter the compounds I run. Minor but noticeable sides would be aforementioned brain fog and a general predisposition to bitch out of challenges.
btw
>comparing it to periods when technically that is the point in the cycle women have the least estrogen sides, I believe
You know what I mean lol
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>>40219412
>It's for people like me to make sure we're better than people like you

lamo

You actually think you're better than anyone? I don't think you think that.

I hope YOU convince yourself of that bimbo, srs, that one day YOU actually believe that to be true.

Maybe if u act superior long you will actually beleive it

>Don't enjoy myself

Stop being a fucking douchebag to people for no reason and you'll feel better, I always friendly with everyone, even you, after 4 months of abuse retard, you JUST got under my skin NOW.

mirrin' persistance, how you didn't give up sooner i dunno
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so all you stedheads do all day apart from juicing and lifting, is just arguing with eachother on here?

does it help the roid rage?
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>>40219419
>feeling undervalued and judged
Remarkably similar to what bimbo posted above. Very interesting.

>bitch out of challenges
Lol this is hilarious. Not like in a mean way but it's exactly the factor that I think changed for me after about 4 weeks on my first blast. Just something clicked in my mind and I fucking welcomed challenges in my life (besides lifting) for once. Was very liberating experience.

Will just keep munching AI (after dialing it in ofc). All of those symptoms sound familiar to me from my low test days (except for the mood changes and aggression - I just had one single, low energy mood) and I want to make sure the only place I find them again is in my rear view mirror.

Might experiment with pinning low dose mast for AI on cruise once Cat Piss comes back with some results.
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>>40219462
Sometimes we masturbate.
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>>40219462
I've noticed almost all roiding communities besides numisc and really really really fucking autistic
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>>40219412
>Mostly because mods don't give a fuck dude

Yeah and you're fucking full of shit, and you look stupid as fuck.

I am stupid as fuck and I looked stupid as fuck long before now. I just don't care, so however stupid I make myself look flaming you don't matter.

Now everyone sees how fucking full of shit you are in general dude

I never said A THING that wasn't ONE THOUSAND PERCENT THE TRUTH.

Doesn't matter if it was bad, errectile dysfunction (lamo) nothing, I just was honest to people because I don't give a FUCK.

And you're such a bitch you need to lie and act liek you can get me banned and shit? Now you look like a retard, good job dude
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>>40219462
KEK the most butthurt person here is alex and he's natty (except for all the stims he's on and maybe DNP?)
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>>40219321
Sup dude? Check your email.
>>40219412
Sup? I started dnp lol.
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>>40219455
You should bet alex
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>>40219402
>getting mad for being belittled, as a newfriend, on 4chan, and /fit/ of all places
nigger my list of people that have wronged me and should suffer my seething wrath is probably longer than the bible. I still don't give a fuck and just spam stale memes at them. RE-fucking-LAX
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>>40218991
please
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>>40219475
Yeah he's spot on. It's lot of feeling insecure and frustrated at feeling that way when you know it's just intrusive thoughts. It's literally toxic, the mindset permeates everything. Doing 6.25mg ed and I feel 1000% better.

Alex shitposting trying to hit insecurities really doesn't impact me because I'm shitposting while my ex cleans and comes and rubs my beard every few minutes while doing so.

Chronically high e2 just creates a sense of being flawed.
>>40219490
Hey duder how were the test results
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>>40219491

Obviously it will end when you get me banned, since you are CLEARLY capable of getting me banend, since you said so?

Or are you fucking lying to people on a steroid thread on 4chan?

That's really pathetic dude.

You want, I will fucking shitpost and spam this fucking general for a week straight

you get mad at me for blogposting? When you blogpost about your life?

You get mad at me for posting about girls when you post about girls too.

You're just a fucking retard in general and a hypocrite dude
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>>40219485
Idk man kinda sounds like you give a fuck
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>>40219490
Not much going on and thanks for the mail. You still visiting the hospital?
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>>40219475
I see a pattern too. Which worries me but makes me able to judge how to proceed. Never been low test, never crashed e2 too low, it's literally just yay or nay for me.

>mast as AI
Eh.
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>>40219526
Damn you're actually fucking terrified of being banned. Is it because you have no life and nothing to do other than shitposting and stuff hot pockets into your mouth all day?
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>>40219519

she's good at cleaning, she needs to clean 50 loads off her fucking lips before she can kiss you retard
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>>40219462
I also argue on a few other boards.
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we need cap to put memek76 bux on alex's head
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>>40219491
lmao those ratings. remind me to never bet you on anything I really give a damn about
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>>40219500
When will they learn.
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>>40219548

>terrified of being banned

No? Logically if I was terrified I wouldn't be shitposting at him with such.... vigor.

I just had enough of his bullshit and pretend acting like some kind of wise father figure for anons when he is a fucking retarded cuck, also tired of him giving me shit for no reason.

>u have no life and nothing to do other than shitposting

Yeah pretty much I don't do much else with my life, u mad?
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has anyone ever tried to tell alex to leave by just pointing out that this is a STEROIDS general and he is not on any STEROIDS?

I don't get why everyone is trying to reason to his logic or arguments. Like the first step needed to post here is to say something relevant to steroids or at the very least be on steroids or wanting to take them. Which category does alex fall into? None
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>>40219690
Yes. Literally daily.
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>>40219645
Yep that's why you immediately began your tard rage as soon as bimbo mentioned banning you. But you're not scared at all :) Damn well I guess you'll have to find a new hobby soon, good luck! :)
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>>40219645
You should buy a gun. Just a heads up.
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>>40219690

I already posted saying that I will take them when I cannot grow natty anymore.

Obviously I can still grow natty? Because I don't look like this yet.

This offend people because I don't wanna roid as a skelton twig man, BRAH, FAURK!

>>40219714

>impyling I'm going to get banned

He already fucking conceeded that he can't do SHIT and he was trying to act important to look important on a fucking steroid thread. M-mirrin?
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>>40219724

U got my dox retard come do something other than roleplay?
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>>40219764
what is your end game? Like what do you want before you will calm down? Do you want people to kiss your ring and tell you how good you are? I don't think anyone doubts that what you've accomplished is impressive and you have a lot of dedication and willpower that you use to make your crazy amount of free time productive

But you are burning a lot of bridges with people for no reason other than they won't pay their respects to you in the way that you feel that you deserve
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>>40219764
Bye bye Alexa, it was fun while it lasted!
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>>40219810
>I don't think anyone doubts that what you've accomplished is impressive
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>>40219543
I feel this more than ever. I've never really had issues like this with e2, but I am profoundly more aware of how it makes me feel.

4 days into dosing AI and really not much bugs me. Especially after getting perspective posting here last night; everything's fine as long as I maintain awareness of how I'm acting. High e2 seems to remove that filter of "is what I'm doing or saying really me?" It's an important aspect of gear to distinguish.

Despite what others may claim, hormones will drastically affect who or what you are on a fundamental level and it's important to stay clear headed in that regard.
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>>40219810

ALright, I'll stop shitposting.

>I don't think anyone doubts that what you've accomplished is impressive

I don't even think that it's impressive. I really think in a few years what I post will be impressive. Impressive isn't ottormode, impressive is being big.

It's just, come on. The guy gives me shit for months and months and I just turn the other cheek, it's all good, I even try to talk up his self esteem a little, tell him he's a cool guy, he can do better, he doesn't need her, because I just want (ed, I am so over it) for him to get out of his abusive relationship.

And just a constant stream of abuse my way when I never even said anything to him.

I was being a retard and fun posting and said kahuna was dyel ironically, and kahuna being the big man he was just rolled his eyes and then was friendly with me.

That's how a man should be, not like bimbo, it's pathetic.

I tried to be like kahuna was (inb4emulating....) with bimbo for months on end, because I really think that's how you should treat people.

But when he starts posting that he's going to get me banned? Come on dude, that was just unwarranted, like what are you, the boss of fraud?

We'll just have to agree to not like each other, this is my last shitpost on the topic so whoever bet 1 week+ lost.

I hope he thinks about what he did and 'is this something I should do? Is this how I should act'' and regrets it but he won't, he just won't.
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Source ran out of Adex so I got Asin instead

Ive only used Adex before and had my cycle planned out for it. I've done some looking around online but can't get a good consensus of the differences and Asin seems to have more of a fluid dose.

Can someone lend some insight on the differences, and what I should dose?

Basic 500 Test E/wk, 14 wks, Nolva after
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>>40219079
>The clusterfuck you two create in these once enjoyable threads makes so much more sense now that I know that you consider yourself to be his twin.

>I liked your attitude better as a fat but humble and helpful guy. Glands is not a good role model.

ok why do u people even give a shit about me anymore i barely even post now compared to before and now it is just 1-2 sentences about some gland bullshit while asking retarded questions about how to take tudca
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>>40219874
You owe me for the advice, but you can't afford me. Leave and we'll call it even.
>>40219875
Adex isn't a suicidal inhibitor, so it inbounds from the enzyme after a short amount of time (72 hours I think). Asin is suicidal, so it permanently binds to the enzyme effectively making it inert.

Dosing Asin isn't too tricky; start low like with any AI and work up until you feel you've hit a sweet spot. I like 6.25mg ed but most steroid forums (take with a grain of salt) say 12.5mg eod.

Dose it low and feel it out for yourself.
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>>40219852
Nothing I could really add to that. Feels good man.
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>>40219874
You are so butthurt over bimbo not sucking your dick, it's hilarious.
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>>40220057
>he sucks dick for a living why won't he suck mine!
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>>40219556
>she's good at cleaning, she needs to clean 50 loads off her fucking lips before she can kiss you retard

she has to do an extra good job because he would recognize the taste instantly :))))))

had to, lel
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>>40219874
Most reasonable post I've read from you all week. You are not hard to like when you're calm and collected, but you try so hard to be "right" that it really rubs people the wrong way.

I honestly don't really care if you stay or leave but I just hope for your sake this is a front youre putting on for fun/trolling instead of unironically thinking this is a good way to be.
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Question I'm only asking because it' snot on the wiki:

Is it really safe to order gear online to your house (from a domestic seller in USA)?
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>>40220126
Yes.
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>>40219929

Bimbo do you have no understanding of basic human physcology? Like if you want someone to go, threatening to have them removed, failing to do so is just gonna make them want to stay.

For someone that takes SUCH pleasure psychoanalyzing me, you really think you'd understand that, wouldn't you?

I'll relax, on the shitposting, because I agree that it's obnoxious and gone way too far, and just not a nice thing to do.

ps: ur still a meanie

>>40219912

make a throwaway email and give it to me breh

also, they just look for reasons to be mad dude.

If I wasn't such a problem, you'd be the problem, if we weren't here, then it would be the guys asking for first cycle advise, whatever.

If there was no drama they wouldn't like the thread because it's boring, if there was drama... you get it.

Always a problem
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Any madmen do a cycle and never get bloodwork?
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>>40220146
It's been an hour. We'll see. In the mean time, behave.
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>>40219912
it was like 1 or 2 threads ago that you and alex were literally 80% or more of the posts
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>>40220183
>In the mean time, behave.

>he's trying to get me to shitpost up the thread

'no' we are chill now bimbsies

Here's uh, here's a picture I like.

Sometimes I see anons write actual smart stuff and I screencap it, I dunno.

I haven't added anything to my folder of anon wisdoms for a while though.

what r u up to?
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does anybody get any extra weight loss from taking cinnamon caps, apple cider vingear tabs, and fish oil or is that just a meme for boosting metabolism?
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>>40220146
If you and glands weren't here it'd be me and grandpa who were the problem like it was before, because we're the only other resident natties and people have to have some kind of scapegoat for why all the good trips left even though they were gone WAY before I started tripping. It's a steroid thread and I'm here to watch the drama and enjoy it while providing entertainment and advice about the things I do understand diet/exercise when it's asked of me and I shut up in the mean time. Alex you know I support you big time, and I like you dood, but the constant flaming people is kinda outta left field and unwarranted. You're posting in a steroid thread as a natty, you're gonna get even more hate than I did at first because instead of coming here when you're already developed to the point masT gets an angry competitive hardon at the mere sight of you, you started off as a brand new to weightlifting dyel and talked just as much as I did but flamed everyone instead of just taking in the essence of the place and enjoying it. Idk man if you really just straight up dislike the vast majority of people here I just don't know what to say, maybe this gen isn't for you, but I feel like you're unhappy about a lot of different things and taking it out at some degree on a lot of established personalities here and it's kind of unwarranted when you look at the big picture. I'm a big fan of roasting a good ol smack talking dyel anon every once and awhile, but when you're that angry at people where you lash out at everyone who gives you a little flak it's a bit unnerving man. I get just as much shit if not more than you do in cbts and shit because of my weird ribcage and I still don't let it get to me unless I'm just in the mood to go off on someone. Taking that hate out in a response to everyone who made this gen a cool place is over the top though. I'm not a fan of that, even if I'm a huge fan of what you've done with your body and your dedication plus mindset.
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>>40220328
filtered
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>>40220244
That's a fucking grandma-tier meme bro.
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>>40220371
>inb4 grandpa says its not a meme.
thanks for the advice might as well stick to DNP then
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>>40220384
EC also boosts metabolism a bit and is less likely to kill you.
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>>40220397
it also makes you a raving shitposter apparently
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>>40220328

I dunno, it's bad, I know, I know. I'm gonna blame the EC and just cycle off it and see if my attitude improves.

Nah, I don't dislike them, I only think brick's bodybuilding advice is not the best and he should frankly stick to powerlifting advice, seeing as how he has impressive numbers and is an expert in that, right? That seems common sense to me, but if he still wants to offer advice for natties to get "shredded and big" "naturally" through powerlifting, OK, I can't stop him. And bimbo is apparently bored and looking for drama too, as bored as me. . Other than that why would I dislike anyone. I'm just bored as fuck, and there's only so much 'how was ur day catpiss' you can do before you get bored, and want the drama right?

I think it's just a lack of social interaction, 'hi princess' 'daddy misses you' just doesn't even count as fucking interaction they're so boring.

I dunno, everything seems so boring to me, I dunno what's up.

I'll cycle off the EC pronto and see if it helps me be less pissed off nonstop.

I'm always hesitant to blame stuff like hormones or drugs for my own behavior because it's a cop out you know, but maybe the EC is actually responsible.

I'll try to chill out, getting way too worked up over stupid stuff.
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>>40220397
much prefer DMAA due to its legal availability over E.
>implying i need a caffeine supplement
>not 2 pots a day masterrace
>>40220406
the focus to be such a massive shitposter is unreal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDHxiDA1Y6s
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>>40220364
Oh no, whatever will I do? I'm so sorry anon, pls unfilter me, I'll suck your dick, I'll do anything, just please don't filter me dear god anon you heartless bastard I have children to feed.

>>40220441
Sounds reasonable. Look into another hobby besides shitposting and lifting, dooder, mine's motorcycles/video games/dancing/fire spinning/rope play/kink.

Shit's fun. Keeps life interesting and there's always new stuff to do. I wanna design a 1400cc engine and a street bike capable of doing 300 mph.

Inb4batmotorcycle
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>>40220509
reminder to filter alex glands and this faggot

unimpressive & unoriginal content (tm)
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>>40220548
t. faggot implying that 4chan was ever good before.
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>>40220548
>unimpressive & unoriginal content

How ironic.
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>>40220509
Thats too many hobbies
I dont have time for videpgames alone

Life is cruel
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>>40220556
t, faggot appealing to futility
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>>40220586
t, faggot who natT was actually right about. Hopelessly ignorant of how unironically ironic he's being.
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>>40220586
t. faggot not turning nihilism into a good thing

>implying you can change the color of a piss ocean, when you forgot that your on 4chan
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>that first orgasm at the beginning of a cycle where your test levels are way higher than normal
is there a better feeling?
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>>40220574
The fire spinning hobby has been lacking lately but after I quit my job I'm really looking forward to doing some odd street performances with it every now and then like I used to. Just gotta avoid the cops and carry an extinguisher/duvatine blanket with me everywhere. Everything else has its time and place though even if my motorcycle is being a little bitch and is expensive a/f.
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>>40220617
death
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>>40220605
>>40220614
t. worthless faggots complaining about someone else complaining about worthless faggots posting in an equally worthless "steroid" general

get a job
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>>40220634
t. t. t. t. t. NO U
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>>40219519
I still haven't gotten the results lol.
>>40219534
Nah I am out of the hospital. Feeling great!
>>40220244
Some of the things you mentioned are diuretics and would make you lose water weight.
>>40220406
So that's why I shit post so much...
>>40220443
DMAA has no weight lost properties and is less legal than ephedrine. You can buy ephedrine at walmart but you can't buy dmaa there...
>>40220627
Hey I have a friend that does fire spinning! Shit is boss when you are fucked up on whatever.
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>>40220634

t. worthless faggot complaining about other people complaining someone else complaining about worthless faggots posting in an equally worthless "steroid" general

This could go on forever you mong, it just shows how worthless your opinion is when you have to resort to logical fallacy to try dance around some obscure point. Go away, no one will miss your shitposting.
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>>40220674
t. alex
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>>40220627
I want to get into riding but theres no way Id have time

Maybe after my masters
Put that after lifting lmao
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>>40220698
>Maybe after my masters
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I don't really understand the reason you guys went not natty.

Was it purely for the ability to act natty and sell fitness sups?
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Does anyone here lose all appetite to eat meat while on dnp? On a regular day I literally just eat chicken + beans + peas, nothing else

I can't even fucking be assed to eat yummy shit like mac n cheese, cauliflower cheese or pizza. All I want are softer foods or carby ones

>milk or any milk drink
>lactose free milk + whey
>soybread (plain, no toppings)
>fruit juices, I just drink a liter of cranberry/raspberry for 180cals when I'm dehydrated as shit with a parched throat in the morning and water is physically painful
>donuts, pastries, peanut butter which I 100% avoid as I can literally eat 5000 cals in one sitting even before dnp
>spring rolls

I also feel like eating chinese shit like stir fried noodles and those pork stews/sweet and sour pork.

but that's about it
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>>40220659
I love it. I have a heavy wood staff I made myself with MASSIVE wicking on each end that I can roll in the air after a dip to make it look like mushroom clouds of fire exploding off the edges. That shit makes me so happy, and people always mire the fuck out of me when I do it because ripped bod + actual talented contact fire staffer = huge crowd enjoying the show. I've actually gotten laid multiple times by just fire spinning at a festival and randomly meeting women who can't contain their soaking panties around me. I get erotic as fuck when I'm really into it, and LSD/mdma only makes it better haha.
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>>40220733
I don't really understand why you're posting.
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>>40219929
Thanks Bimbo, you my fave
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>>40220733
my dick is unironically incredibly small so I'd do anything to gain some self confidence by other means. frauding just makes it so much easier.
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>>40220126
They want the distributor, not you
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is there a sticky or something about running your first ever cycle? like from scratch that includes a general physical examination (blood tests, heart screening and any others that would be critical in this case)?

i want to run 300-500mg/wk test-e for 10-12 wk as a starter but i want to do it perfectly health-wise
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>>40220698
You should. You can get a $2,000 bike to start on and the maintance on 250's/300's is cheap as hell, plus the gas mileage is god tier and the insurance is like $100 a year. It's really easy to get into and general maintance is time consuming if you do everything yourself, but easy enough and cheaper than going to a shop, n I think it's fun.

Plus going out for a ride whenever on some backroad with no one else is goat. It's insanely relaxing and feels great, like nothing else. Riding a motorcycle gives you the kind of happiness a dog gets when sticking its head out the window.

Have a pic of Erin.
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>>40220659
> would make you lose water weight.
better than nothing
>DMAA has no weight lost properties and is less legal than ephedrine.

i thought is was similar enough to illicit weight loss ? either way it curbs hunger so it would be half as effective then if thats the case.

you must be in cuckanda then because DMAA is legal again(HI Tech pharma vs FDA) and ephedrine is illegal still
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>>40220744
Can confirm. I myself do chains instead of staff but anything firebending (lol) is the bee's knees both as a mere hobby and to pull some poon.
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>>40220774
Typically it's listed on the /fraud/ OP thread but someone FUCKED IT UP

Anyways go to reddit /r/steroids. They have a sticky/wiki that details how to run your first beginner cycle. Generally you just do bloods before and after a cycle, unless youre running a bunch of tren or something then you do another in the middle
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Hey fraud, anyone have any experience with Trendione aka Trenavar? Oral Tren precursor basically
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These refeed is getting my veins going
God bless

>>40220716
Then ill have time + money
Perfect

>>40220733
Its better
Why do astronauts go to the moon
Its not because they hate oxygen
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>>40220806
just a blood exam is enough for a low dose test-e cycle? how about heart stress and stuff?
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Fug, pinned at least partly into a vein:

>feel that distinctive pain going in
>weird feeling in my lungs
>pull out and put on bandage
>coughing fit starts
>look down, spot bandage is completely red and it's still bleeding
>fug, limp to bathroom and put pressure on wound

That was new.
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>>40220900
Why wouldn't you aspirate you dummy
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>>40220820
My bullshit sensors are tingling.
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>>40220916
I did, I don't know exactly what went wrong. Maybe some oil flowed back into the vein when I pulled out.
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>>40220847
Unless you have a history of heart disease in your family just bloodwork is fine. I mean if you have a bunch of money to blow or you can get it done for free go for it but otherwise no.
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>>40220847
The only real problems with Test-E, and this is if you totally fuck up PCT and dont use AI (unless bimbo):

>Increased BP
>Increased cholestrol
>gyno
>acne and hair loss
and those last three are all dependent on you not being a retard with PCT, also genetics.
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>>40220900
you didn't, unless you pin a quarter of an inch in or something

you nicked a vein and panicked like a baby
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>>40220686

no

>>40220659

woah shit man what happened to u?
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>>40221046
I've had bleeding before, never had a coughing fit to go with.
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>tfw psmf

also nicotine gum+200mg caffeine works just as well as EC stack appetite wise for 2-3 hours.
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>>40221085
literally just nicking a vein. normal stuff. no point in panicking unless you were injecting tren a

then panic
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>>40220744
Ya I bet it's super easy to get girls lol.
>>40220791
I hadn't heard it was legal again.
>>40221049
I was sick but I just upped the dose and it was fine.
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>>40218991
"YEAH WELL MY DAD WORKS FOR 4CHAN"
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>>40221168
Yep, DMAA is back on the menu boys!
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>>40216642
I don't think there's anything on the wiki about this:

How can I figure how much fr*ckin water weight is on me? Is there a way to know?
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>>40221235
...dehydrate yourself?
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>>40221241
Sounds like a great healthy plan!!!
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>>40221246
what do you think contest prep is
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>>40221235
10-15lbs on average is water weight that can be shed without any real health issues aside from dehydration. you could lose up to 40lbs if you sauna, serane wrap and celery your way down. you risk more to your health but you could make any weight you would need to for a fight or a show. more danger though so consider that.
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>>40221246
There's nothing at all wrong with temporary dehydration you mong. I did it for wrestling and fighting all the time.

Day one, drink 2 gal of water throughout the day

Day two, drink 1 gallon

Day three, drink 1/2 gallon

Day four, drink 1/4 gallon

Day five, drink minuscule amount

Day six, drink no water and hit a dry sauna for 5-10 minutes or until you feel dizzy.

How to dehydrate and lose all your water weight 101.

Just don't stay there for more than the equivalent of a weigh in and you'll be fine. Drink a regular amount of water after that.
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>>40221264

wtf? no dude.

How do u even have 40 lbs of water and fat inside your body? You'd be dead.

How much do you weigh, I'll give you 300 lbs, you're ronnie coleman, ok? It still doesn't make any sense unless you're fat as fuck, and if you are, why worry about water?
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>>40221292
So fun story about Ronnie Coleman thats totally unrelated.

I live in Ohio and my buddy works at Thurmonds in Columbus, which is famous for the Thurminator, massive ass burger monstrosity that was on man v food.

Obviously the Arnold is held in Cbus. So my buddy is working and Coleman comes in with his boys. Coleman orders the Thurminator not as a stunt, just to eat. So my friend explains to him itll take awhile for the order to be ready, so Coleman sends one of his bois out to go pick him up McD's while he waits. He proceeds to eat 2 quarter pounders at least and fries as an appetizer while he waits for the Thurminator.
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>>40221292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNw31Ug5HmA

forgot epson salt bath. most of your water wheight is in your muscles anyways, so if you want defintion and veins then cuting water and carbs will give you that.

yeah 40lbs was to much more like 10-30lbs
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>>40221331
Christ. I guess it's not that difficult to eat that much when you're used to eating nothing but meat and rice, though.
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>>40221391
People at his size eat like 8,000 calories a day.

I cant remember if it was Bigger Faster Stronger or Generation Iron, probably the latter, but they basically have to eat every hour or two.
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>>40221391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNw31Ug5HmA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gZJ-T7ajrw

no the nigga likes to eat. hes a roiding bodybuilding cop so he has to make up for his walking cardio that he gets all day while showing off to the town his awesomeness.
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>>40221421
haha gee I wonder why he has those liver and cholesterol tablets...
'Health reasons'
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>>40221441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv0E6Ja_QFA

wrong post, but its an extension of the pills here guy.
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Speaking of water weight, i started pmsf not lifting post surgery, and now on my refeed week inbetween months, i weight more than when I started
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>>40221463
I wish I could eat that much without being a fucking fatass manlet.

5'7'' so maybe after this Test Ill try Tren/Test and see how much my belly can hold.
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>>40221492
You are not anywhere lean enough to justify a refeed week
2-3 days is more than enough
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>>40221492
your refeed should either consist of eggs or rice and nothing more. reason being is that its easy to measure.

>>40221507
if i was a NEET with unlimited time on my hands id be working out sumo style 6 hours a day 2 for cardio and 4 for strength 6 days a week. roiding just makes it to easy.
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>>40221522
That's the thing, I graduated with my 2nd degree in April and have yet to secure a real job. I mean I have a part-time one but Im sorta my own boss, so I got all the time in the world to joose. I already lift 6 days a week.

Worried about when my new career starts though. Gonna have to make some serious adjustments.
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>>40221538
Coleman literally eats like I did in college haha. Just pan fried burgers and paper plates and generic ass condiments with some broccoli or something.
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to pin melanotan 2 can i just use a 23g or do i need smaller pins? never pinned subq shit before
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>>40221463
Damn at 5:50 that video made my subwoofer fucking jump.
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>>40221545
You doing gut or legs?
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>>40221545
You can, but id do smaller

>>40221519
Yeah but ive got interviews and thats my excuse

Plus the time I went 10 weeks straight I think I lost lbm so im being a bit cautious
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>>40221538
good luck with that, you could wear a wheight vest all day to get some extra gains, realy works your core.
https://www.amazon.com/Tone-Fitness-Weighted-Vest-lbs/dp/B0040XF2RE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1485915066&sr=8-3&keywords=weight+vest
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What can I use for sick gains while avoiding acne?
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sup /fit/

blood results came in today and my test levels were fine at 6ng/dl (1,4-12 ng/dl is the range).

i however managed to convice my urologist to prescribe me test via a private recipe for my first cycle so i dont have to buy some ulab shit

pic related is what he gave me. he told me he will start with 250mg/week, run a blood test on me again after 4-6 weeks and the up the dose to 500mg/week if my body reacts well to it for the dose of 16-20 weeks.

he told me he would also inject me hcg 4 weeks before the cycle ends to kickstart my own test production and then send me on my way with clomid/nova until my levels are fine again.

does anyone have experiences with pic related? its from a german pharmacy and i pay 80 euros for 6 1ml bottles + 10 euros for the 2 injections per week at the doc

cheers
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>>40221593
kys
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>>40221616
>roleplaying on /fraud/
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getting full blood next week.
do i let my test e lapse so i might get docter teste.
or do i maintain and see what is close to my natty.
dosing 250mg test e week
600mg trene a week

pic is FAV stripper
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>TFW ordered my Test, PCT, and AI from a verified source for cheap
>TFW ordered my syringes and shit for cheap online
>TFW I ordered a blood panel from Life Extension via Labcorp for cheap

And to think a year ago I was stressing over how to pull this glorious experience off.
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>>40221560
prob stomach
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Is Fatlifts still a trip on this threads or am I too old of a juice head now for these threads
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>>40221711
>SHE LITERALLY
>L O O K E D
>AT ME
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>>40221711
he's still around, just post a shorthaired girl to summon him
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>>40221726
>>40221724

oh thats cool

does anyone happen to know what i mean by serbian cookies?
cause i wud sure like the info to get some serbian cookies

shout out to Plato if he is still here too
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>>40221742
no source talk or i would be asking what happened to onijin every thread
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>>40216662
deca killed my dick

if you run it keep some Cialis on you dawg
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>>40221711
Nah man, he left, threads were too shit.
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>>40221755
>>40221755

not asking for sources

just really want some serbian cookies
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>>40221834
You're telling me. It's all shit.
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>>40222118
I have to wonder if we can contact the mod team. Sean got cleared out when things got too bad and this is probably just an alter-ego of his anyway.

>>40221834
ayy
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>>40222207
I'm already on it. I've got contacts from old mod teams. Both ATIWAB and Laura could help.
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>>40222217
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>>40222226
Fug I clicked too slow
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>>40222244
Nah you still won
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>>40222207
Sean was legit obnoxious and posted all kinds of homo shit. Alex is mostly autism, he's not so bad, doesn't go out of his way specifically to be annoying.
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>>40222331
>doesn't go out of his way specifically to be annoying
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>>40222244
Jbflgf
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>>40222336
Not to the same degree that sean does anyway.
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>>40222331
>doesn't go out of his way specifically to be annoying.
>>40222401
>Not to the same degree that sean does anyway.
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>>40222447
The dude posted in every plg thread for MONTHS about his "princess trappy". Seriously, any normal person would have gotten bored of the joke but he kept fucking posting it.

He also constantly invents new personas and argues with himself for 100 posts about nothing. The level of autism displayed by sean has yet to be even 25% matched by alex
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>>40222591
is he a paragraph poster like alex? or do they match 1 for one on word count ?

not like the subject matter doesnt matter but word count for me is pretty telling.
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>>40222640
What
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>>40219270
Hey bimbo still not taking an ai and still on only a cruise and some tbol, can confirm the mental sides of e2 are terrible.
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>>40222708
maybe because you are fucking 40% bf retard
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>>40221246
>healthy plan
>steroid general
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>>40222733
>steroid general
>complains about dehydration being unhealthy
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>>40216642
I heard turn Masteron turns you into a porn star.
Is this true?
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>>40222749
close but you are thinking trenbolone

and you are also thinking gay porn star
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>>40222708
Eh it's a non issue now, just gonna ramp up to 1.5g test 100mg adrol and keep AI low but not really worry about it.

Was only dosing AI to fix my mood around my roommate but I don't give a fuck if I upset her or not anymore. She can leave whenever, I don't care if I'm an asshole.
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>>40222749
Anecdotally some people report a large libido increase from mast.
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>>40222839
>10 mins later
>xd omg i want to fuck her and worship her in public and by worship i mean get her pregnant in public
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>>40222839
Well I'm ordering an Ai now I'm still working on things with my ex, we're going away this weekend so hopefully I just don't say any dumb shit like I usually do. Really never taking an Ai has made me turn into something I'm not and I hope there's going to be a difference
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>>40222839
rather odd question but I figured you might know, what are some ultra soft underwear that I can workout/run in comfortably? preferably with no opening in the front, irritates my dick too much

thx for keeping this general worthwhile btw
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GOD DAMNIT I KEEP COMING BACK HERE HOPING THIS GENERAL ISN'T FUCKING SHIT BUT IT NEVER HAPPENS

Oldfags come back.

In other news I am 205lbs. Will possibly post physique when I hit 215.

I am starting to look fucking ridiculous.
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>>40222935
ily chem

you been staying out of trouble? ;)
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>>40222868
Just do whatever you want. She's already proven her needs come before yours.
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>>40222935
Damn you weigh more than me lol
Send me a pic
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>>40222935
Ayy, going to start slinging again?
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>>40222962
truth
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>>40222949

Ilu more anon

And yeh, just been working and lifting. Quit drugas, quit my Adderall and Ambien scripts too.

>>40222965

I will take one specially 4 u tomorrow in the gym bby

I still feel small as fuck honestly

>>40222966

Prolly not desu senpai sorry
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>>40222856
Lol fuck the vapid slut tired of doing shit for her or with her
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>>40222995
>Quit drugas,
Nice

Im a quiver with excitement, get a nice rear glute spread no homo

Im back to about where I was presurgery
Few more months of cutting and I can blow up from within
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>>40222995
fug
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>>40218572
F00kin j00cy m8
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>>40218684
Damn son you look like Jaco de bruyn
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>>40223218
ayy you're still around

have any recent pics for us?
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What's the consensus on adding a very low dose of a certain compound to a blast to compensate for lower test dosage? Eg. I can get deca cheap as fuck rn but I'm not too fond of deca at regular doses but I wouldn't mind dosing ~150mg a week and pinning ~350 test instead of to save some cash in the long run.

I don't really understand why this would be bad but some people keep calling it retarded and stupid but I can't think of a single reason why that would be bad.
It's not like the effects wouldn't stack with each other?
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Mass still adding on nicely since getting clean. Decided to add deca to this blast, this will be my first time combining deca and tren.

Here's to hoping prolactin is a meme.
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>>40223289
350mg of test instead of 500mg*
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>>40223273
I have some comp photos. Idk if I showed those to you guys.

I was 220 here. I bulked back up to 263 in about a month.
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>>40223289
Any amount of additional gear will have an increased effect. Eg even only adding 100mg Tren E will add to it, more so than increasing test by 100mg.


350mg is not a lower test dose that needs 'compensating' for.

Even 150mg a week is likely more than your natty level and will keep your normal, and you can rely on other steroids to do the 'heavy lifting' so to speak. Various ways to do things.

Unless you mean only 350 test and 150 deca. I think youd need something more than that to call it a blast.

Why dont you add a different compound?
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>>40223341
This Jan 10.

263ish here.

Tan gone. Back to pale :(
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>>40223325
Deca is stronger than test mg for mg iirc, so 150mg deca will be more than 150mg test.
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>>40223341
you have beautiful delts, looks like your hair is thinning out though

>>40223354
damn, what height? those arms look thicc as fuck
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>>40223313
They stack hard on prolactin

>>40223354
Fuark mirin
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>>40223289
The problem is that anabolic steroids are not all equal to each other. So you can't really say that 100mg deca is equal to 100mg of test. If you want to make up for low test doses, just increase the test. Now that being said they do synergize, so low dose test plus low dose something else can be very good. The problem is that the ester in deca is massive, so you're not getting that much nandrolone with 150mg deca. If you were talking NPP or nand cyp it would be a little better.
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>>40223352
Yeah I've been cruising now on 100mg test-e a week and that keeps my bloods high so I respond pretty good to test.
And yeah I'm gonna blast on 500mg test a week but I'm considering buying this cheap deca that I could pin 100-200mg a week and maybe lower my test dosage a bit just so I can be a jewfuck and pull a week or two more from one vial of test.
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>>40223377
Thanks, I think that's just the reflection of the light.

I hope not..... oh god.
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Would running 750mg of test as a first cycle be retarded? I've heard anecdotal evidence that the bigger you are the more you'll need?
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>>40223390
Your deca is cheaper than your test?
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>>40223354
Fuuuucking juicy Bro. Always mirin when you post here.

Sorry if you mentioned it I haven't read much of the thread but what you running in this pic? You use GH? I plan on starting blacktops in the near future.
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>>40223411
Yeah I could get deca right now that's dirt cheap and is still close to labeled dosage but I'm not much into deca so I don't want to start blasting it at high doses.
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>>40223414
Thanks bro lol.

I don't use gh.

Currently on 400mg deca, 550mg test e e/w. 25 mg aromasin e/d.

400-450g carbs
100-150g fats
300-350g protein
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>>40223429
Theoretically its fine and should give a bit more than 500mg test, but I havent tried something like that.
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>>40223404
Height, weight, percent bodyfat?
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>>40223504
6'8, 350lbs, 18%
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>>40223625
You're way higher than 18% at 350lbs I don't give a fuck how tall you are
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28y/o. No history of roids or hormones.

7.01 TSH (1 - 4.8)
479 Test (348-1197)
7.4 Free test (9.3-26.5)

What the fuck happened /fraud?/
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>>40223861
old fag, and fat makes the conversion of estrogen higher than usual.
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>>40223625
lmfao @ 18% bf, you're prolly closer to 35%
please show your 350lb lardass body just for the lulz, i need this to wake up for today
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>>40223379
You've tried them both at once before? If so pls share experience
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>>40223932
gotcha senpai
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>>40221331

Yeah there are videos of Ronnie accidentally into 200 chicken wings and other such shenanigans
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PEPE
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>>40221742
Yeah galenika guy got in trouble with cops and went awol
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>>>40224143
new bread
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late 30s, about to start first cycle with TestE 500mg. What will I be thinking at the end of it?
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Why do some people say Arimadex and others Aromasin? Is one better for certain compounds or something? Should I buy both in case I dont respond to one properly? I dont wanna grow tits bros..
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>>40221668
where's the best place to get cheap bloods? privatemd wants like $180. seems high.
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>>40223354
no homo, but pic still related as fuck
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