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Plg new thread

No spam edition pls

Helper spank animu grill edition
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SHEIKO & DIETMAR PROGRAMS

Sheiko Programs:

>Beginner (/plg/ internet exclusive)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfn4wy-9lc3mO5ObkoBU_Bf2GUtkr42gCyZS_hzeD4I/

>Intermediate Small Load (/plg/ internet exclusive)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A8YmCRV8hL4VFdMtuSzNAM_0wjPF4lj1HxHFEnMVers/

>Intermediate Medium Load
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18nIdEHDGktGptKsWDQzowXkmHeM6XGMFj-TnGdQKLmY/

>Intermediate Large Load
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1htZVT7ltLYVBSB3Uh9PQKqARitj46IEgihbo3Uu04P0/

>Advanced Small Load (/plg/ internet exclusive)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12NUdKocJ2GnpjFXei-N_doL7NM6aT-LwulkS8LQwGEk/

>Advanced Medium Load
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Yt4THa8mZNR81aUcgDVgdqTpc3GiAKLenx3Z7id0yE/

>Advanced Large Load
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akqwfO1und1UI1zvnwK9KIMeJ-r0TLjYJMxi2cTp84c/

Dietmar Programs (translated by cā€™ā€™,)):

>New to competitions:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/176C50p67VaRiFYuDqGctTVRbgXcvejVea4GrZDg4RmA/

>Veteran competitive:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/197wVbzGyE5MWvP1KB4u6rsJX30uAmgeVxJvTV74sVc8/

>Guide for competitive programs:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzE9F9Z7GkwLSHl5UWt2Z09LVE0/view?ths=true

>Volume program:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YbmVOCBKbY8bDOVjO5lNThwKOkthaHi1sX0o6PsixJc/

>Volume program: (by Haugen)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BWu8oSQ9htB91Yjo6pP5XX8qrk-mbUNax_rvEcEf4H8/

>Guide for volume program:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzE9F9Z7GkwLYkVmb3prYWt1OWM/view?ths=true
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I claim this post for my sweet prince and good friend Chadlex.
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>>40211201
I just finished week 4 day 1 of my Sheiko prep cycle. I feel sufficiently peaked, can I skip days 3 and 4? I feel like they'd just overwork me. Can I just do day 2 of week 4 on Wednesday and then go straight to skills test on Saturday? I feel ready

Also before deadlifts on Wednesday can I do an 80% squat triples instead of deficit deads just to hammer in a bit more form practice?
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Reminder that if you have participated in a meet, you can link me to your video or post the webms and you'll be added to the celebration thread dedicated to the competitive lifters of /plg/.

Current lifters (videos of the lifts):

Bodorio
Alex
Isley
Twink Alex
Mystery Anon
Virtus
Bryce
Benchbro
Boardshorts
Norsefat
Haack
Kbooey
Tzekk

Special mentions (pics only):

Poutine
Cheekie
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>>40211219

Sure, why not.

Good luck on the tests!
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>>40211247
Thanks trappy!
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>>40210128
>you made gains up to first skills test
>you could't handle the gains

so what you're saying is

the program was wrong for me, just like I stated.

>>40210492
>>40211226
what the fuck isn't there to get lmao

I tried to do too much for too long and It blew up in my face, it sure as FUCK wasn't a meet day performance issue, it was literally over training: the definition

I started tanking WAY before the meet, hell my deadlift got fucked up in like week 3 or 4. I got a good response out of squat and a really good response on bench but they didn't even come close to making up how bad my deadlift got, considering that alone it was like a net -30 or -45 lb to my total.

Looking back on it, I wish I actually would have stopped at the skills test.
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>>40211267

You know, using all time maxes in a detrained state probably didn't help.
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>>40211267
>what the fuck isn't there to get lmao
Remember:

You're talking to someone who wants to dodge male competition so hard that he dresses as a girl and lets boys fuck his butt.

He doesn't lift.

He isn't a doctor.

He isn't a coach.

He is a man that smells like a man and has a fuzzy face and a leaky butt and sits behind a keyboard all day instead of being accepted by society.
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>>40211315
This
Just ignore the cunt
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>>40210946


Box squats really helped me groove the motor pattern of sitting back, then I think do all sorts of stuff to work on keeping my chest up.

>>40210940
>Just imagine if we had a janitor or mod here...

Naw, we don't need one, just ignore it all.

>>40211134

Pic attached really helped me work through my tendon issues. But if you keep moving your hands out, you'll get to check the (in) box on your meet attempts which is cool.
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>>40211328

Keeping my chest up isn't a problem, but the sitting back would help a lot, thanks poutine!

Have one of my favorite Iskra's.
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>>40211315
That is unnecessarily rude.
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>>40211344

Dang gurl whats good?
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>>40211267

Hm...

What I don't get is that the comp cycle is supposed to be pretty light and low volume, for the most part. I'd expect a trainee to be peaked at the end of it, and not overtrained...

How did you peak for other meets, in comparison?

And yeah you're not the first person mentioning gains on squat and bench but deadlift getting weaker on Sheiko. Though those guys usually complain that it's not enough work for the deadlift - in your case it would be the opposite issue...

You did the old CMS 4-days program, right? The same as bodorio and isley?

Maybe what fucked you over the most is that the old CMS (now called advanced large load) is intended for lifters under 80kg - meaning it has more volume than the one intended for lifters over 80kg and waaay more volume than the one intended for lifters at 120kg+.
Perhaps that's why Sheiko's 120kg programs have the lowest volume of all, he would probably expect a heavy lifter like you to overtrain on the large volume since you're handling much heavier weights than the guys under 80kg.

And btw, sorry for bringing this up for the... fifth time? kek
It's just that I haven't had any experience with a trainee overtraining or a any cases similar to yours, so I'm very curious about it cause I really want to learn more from your experience.

ily norsie <3
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>>40211407

Did a squat single of 495 @9-9.5 today, but the depth would have been redlighted 80% of the time.

Been better, been worse.
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>>40211430
>Did a squat single of 495 @9-9.5 today

REEEEE

All the time I've spent fixing my squat, I haven't been able to go heavier than 425 and it makes me mad.
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>>40211427
>And btw, sorry for bringing this up for the... fifth time? kek
>It's just that I haven't had any experience with a trainee overtraining or a any cases similar to yours
You hear that Norse?

He's telling you that you're wrong.
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>>40211456
Atleast theres not a 100+ lb difference in your squat and pull like mine
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>>40211463

No friend, I don't care about being stronger than you - I care about being stronger than the me from yesterday.
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>>40211456

Your bench and deadlift are within about 15-30lbs of mine at 10lbs lighter than me. Does that help?
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>>40211484

You'll get there poutine, and I'll get there when I stop drunkenly fucking up.
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Reminder #1
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>>40211478

I haven't tested in a long time, but I'm pretty sure there is a 100lb gap.
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>>40211187
Just did an accessory day, mostly light as it's a new program

Chin ups with 5kg 3x5
Incline Bench 50kg 3x5
Machine Rows 30kg 3x10
Ab Curls 60kg 5x11
Tricep Push Down 60kg 3x11
Chest Flies 70kg 3x11
Side Lats 6kg 3x11
Read Delt Flies 3x11

Abs Triceps and Chest Flies carry over from old numbers so they aren't light like the rest is

is it better to do a large variety of accessories or do half as many and do twice as many sets?
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>>40211267
It's pretty obvious. The program was perfect for you but you did something wrong. You had to have because there is no way it wasn't right for you... it was perfect.

All your fault.
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>>40211427
>old CMS for 80 and under kg
nope. I did the 80+ kg class1/CMS 4 day. I have the excel template still. I also have my version with notes on some days.


>how did you peak for other meets in comparison
less reps
more 1 rep sets
take 5-7 days off right before the meet, with only light stretching in those 5-7 days
go to meet
win

>want to learn
Quite honestly, there's no specific thing.
It was a bunch of things, but here's the biggest ones

>first time doing REAL training (which I think I detest normally any ways - i just dont' like boring shit)
>went with TRUE MEET MAXES to base the program (not inflated, but I used 600/400/700 lbs for input)
>at same time of running sheiko, experienced horrible emotional abuse from HTAMILF (I was susceptible to it at that time)
>went from having regular awesome sex to being emotionally abused and literally cockteased on a fucking daily basis (this might have been the worst part of it all, srs)
>while all of this was happening, experienced the worst fucking semester of school that I've EVER had, ever
>while stressing out about finding a job
>while going HAM on entrepreneurial efforts and getting semi-serious about starting a business

at the end of the day, you get to spend "stress".

Stress is a resource that you have. and you only have so much of it. You can spend all your stress on training. Or you can spend it all on school. Or you can spend it on a shitty fucking cocktease whore.

But if your eyes get bigger than your stomach and you spend more stress than you have in your reserve, don't be surprised when you break. It's unsustainable stress spending. Others would call this "Stress management".
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>>40211522
Kek then maybe we're long lost poverty squat brothers
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>>40211539

>Stress is a resource that you have. and you only have so much of it. You can spend all your stress on training. Or you can spend it all on school. Or you can spend it on a shitty fucking cocktease whore.
Explains why frog does well on sheiko. He's a virgin neet

Just curious, how reliable was your penis during sheiko?
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>>40211565
No idea. didn't have any fucking sex.
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>>40211539
What are your stress levels like currently?
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>>40211565
>neet
Hes in school

>virgin
He does have a girl friend cant confirm what they've done in bed
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>>40211267
Let this be a cautionary tale, kids. Don't let a hobby turn into a job.
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Is this an optimal program for a beginner? I did Starting Strength a few years ago but life happened and I haven't been in a gym since.
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>>40211588
Not sure. Haven't been doing a good job of objectively quantifying like I was back then. I started working in May 2016 and it was fucking brutal. Literally the most stressed I've ever been. It's considerably better now, though i've still got shit like right now, going a full month doing 4 on - 4 off night shifts. in Iowa. Shit's pretty brutal.

>>40211640
This, abso-fucking-lutely.
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Why does it seem like talentchads squat/deadlift the same? (eg Alex,fregg,virtus)
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>>40211524

>is it better to do a large variety of accessories or do half as many and do twice as many sets?

3x5 chinups + 3x5 pullups
vs
6x5 chinups

The first option is better and more fun :)

Ho

>>40211539

I see.
Well, makes more sense to me now.

In the situation you were in, probably even the 120kg program would've been too much. Specially considering how Sheiko programs are intended for people who can devote most of their recovery and stress to the training itself.

Also doesn't help when you're devoting so much time and effort to a style of program that is just boring for you.

Well, we learn from our mistakes. And I've definitely learned a lot just from talk with you about it through all these months. :)

>nope. I did the 80+ kg class1/CMS 4 day

Well, it's still considerably higher volume than the program for 120kg lifters.

Just for those curious,
On the app, here's the comparison between them:

120kg (advanced small load)
Lifts counts: 727 (prep 1) -> 758 (prep 2) -> 820 (prep 3) -> 537 (comp)

Over 80kg (advanced medium load)
Lifts counts: 781 (prep 1) -> 1456 (prep 2) -> 1112 (prep 3) -> 536 (comp)

Under 80kg (advanced large load)
Lifts counts: 1365 (prep 1) -> 2218 (prep 2) -> 1290 (prep 3) -> 849 (comp)
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>>40211654
OK i squat/dead the same and am GDE

btfo
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>>40211654
its a super secret technique
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>>40211524

Forgot to finish my thought...

Let's try this again:

However, keep in mind that somethings aren't exact substitutions of others.
While you can do 3x5 db flys + 3x5 cable crossovers instead of just 6x5 flys - doing 3x5 bench + 3x5 flys isn't the same as doing 6x5 bench.
6x5 bench will get you much stronger at... benching.

An alternative would be 3x5 bench + 3x3 bench with lighter weights, or 3x5 bench with legs up and lighter weight, or perhaps even 3x5 30 degrees incline bench.
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>>40211654
We will never release our secrets
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>>40211663
glad I could help senpai
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Who else hyped for project memementum 2k17?
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>>40211201
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>>40211715

Oh, btw, remember the VS Athletics saying the heel height was like 3cm?

It's probably not. That's probably the total heel height, not the effective heel height.

For example, the adipowers has a heel height of 3.3cm - but the actual effective heel height, what actually matters, is 2cm.

So the 3.3-3.5cm heels on the VS shoes are probably just that.

The tallest heels in the market atm are the Adidas Leistung 2 (2.5cm effective).
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>>40211524

Really depends on what you're doing (particularly if you're using any movements that tend to beat you up particularly bad), Either approach works since the overall volume tends to end up basically being the same. Pretty much the same as focusing on a few main lifts versus rotating a bunch of them - the former tends to get you better at the actual movements you're using, the latter tends to be a bit less stressful/more fun overall.
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>people STILL just plug and play cookie cutter programs

Why
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>>40211728
Hyped as fuck. Im hoping everyone in plg ends up in different groups so we can see the difference in the training groups
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>>40211728
What is it??
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>>40211715
>>40211759

And funny sidenote, I noticed the iranian lifter has added heel height to his adipowers here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEsum31efkk
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>>40211784
Experimental training mike t offers for free and we offer our sanity and health in return
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>>40211789
Hey Trappy, I want to start weightlifting but I won't have access to a coach for at least 6 months. Should I just focus on mobility and squats? Any help would be much appreciated.
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>>40211775

That would be quite nice and we'd have a good idea of what works and what doesn't.

>>40211771

Some people don't have the access to or expendable income for personalized coaching.

>>40211784

Experimental program that will probably work very well through Mike T. and RTS. Gotta go through a few questionnaires and log the workouts but it's new and exciting.
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>>40211827

High risk, high reward. I dunno how this time around will be but I haven't seen many programs that had as big a spread of outcomes as the original PM.
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do I have to pay to be in project momentum
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This whole project momentum shit sounds way too retarded have fun being a Guinea pig untill you get injured
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>>40211839

>suffer horrible injury
>regress
>make no progress
>add up to 50kg to your total

I'll fucking say.

>>40211853

It's free but it might be too late to sign up.
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>>40211715

And btw, if you search on amazon for Heel Raisers they have a lot of options for very cheap, like a couple of bucks even.
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>>40211853
>4chan pass
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>>40211859

That's something I would expect you to say. Sometimes you just gotta take a risk or spice it up.
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>>40211759
>>40211789

I really like the leistungs. Might consider getting a pair
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>>40211875
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>>40211863
can you give me a link to sign up please
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>>40211875
Being a person who has been injured id rather not have it happen again even if that means skipping out on some gains

My mental health is more effected by a injury than my body is
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>>40211891

rip
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>>40211663
>Specially considering how Sheiko programs are intended for people who can devote most of their recovery and stress to the training itself.

This right here is the Sheiko programming's biggest flaw. The program in untenable for anyone with a job, or life. Sheiko will destroy you if you cannot fully commit to it.

>>40211859
>This whole project momentum shit sounds way too retarded have fun being a Guinea pig untill you get injured

It's pretty useful for the rest of us - the data that's compiled is very interesting. Hopely more than %25 actually follow through and respond this time.
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>>40211891
KEK
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>>40211881

The PL3's are fucking sexy too.
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>>40211896

YouTube video with the link explaining it is here.

https://youtu.be/x0ZjOpkAJ0w

>>40211898
>>40211891

I've played sports and been an athlete in varsity or club sports all through high school and college, and since I was 8 years old. The worst injuries I've ever had were I pulled each hamstring once 4+ years ago and pulled a spinal erector once last year while cutting at a steep deficit. The concern is appreciated but as long as I eat at a surplus or maintenance I'll be fine.
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>>40211933
pl3s a shit
pl2s r better
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>>40211933
>>40211947
God i know, PL3 are gr8

:(
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>>40211933
>>40211947

To be honest, I'm kinda in love with the PL1s nowadays.

The heels are low, though.

>>40211955

Don't worry, people will leak the program here and you will be able to knock yourself out with it.
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I still don't understand what's the deal with the "Adidas Crazypower" though.

Regular 2cm heel height... adidas has like, 3 shoes at that heel height at the moment. Did they really need a new one?

Or do the crazypowers offer something else I haven't noticed?
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>>40211822
pls
>>40211971
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>>40211955
We've been memeing this for almost a week now. That's on you
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>>40211985
>>40211822

Check this out senpai https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPTWOs5ItY1Ouz-HoVkS34w/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FYhl4P8OnCd_C2v2tjOC55X
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>>40212000
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FYhl4P8OnCd_C2v2tjOC55X

tyvm
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>>40212016

Most of the videos that should be in the playlists but aren't are in the channel.
I still have to reorganize the whole thing.
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>>40212016

And oh, here's the other playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FaJbNrQrwYXkP0BVDKdTpPy
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while we're talking shoes, what are a few of the higher-heeled selections? Positions look SUPER nice and have really good height but I'm not paying $200 for shoes
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>>40212064

All of the shoes described below are great, including the cheapest options.
Heel height is personal preference.

Remember to look for sales. They're very common.

<- : trappy picks

Cheap but Great:
Adidas Powerlift 1/2/3 (1.5cm heel) <-
Wei-Rui Warrior (2cm heel) <-
Wei-Rui VX3 (2cm heel)
VS Athletics (3.3cm heel)** <-
VS Athletics 2 (3.5cm heel)**
Do-Win Gong-Lu 2 (2.5cm heel)
Sabo Gym (1.5cm heel)
Do-Win Gong-Lu 3 (2cm heel)
Sabo Deadlift (flat heel)
Wrestling shoes (flat heel) (multiple brands) <-

Mid-tier:
Adidas PowerPerfect 2 (2.1cm heel) <-
Adidas Drehkraft (2.1cm heel)
Risto Tiburon 2 (2.2cm heel) <-
Risto Deadlift (flat heel)
Sabo Powerlift/Weightlift (2cm heel)
Reebok CrossFit Lifter Plus 2.0 (2cm heel) <-
Inov-8 Fastlift (1.7cm heel)
Do-Win Pendlay (2cm heel)

Expensive tier:
Adidas Adipower (2cm heel) <-
Adidas Crazypower (2cm heel)*
Nike Romaleos 2/3 (2cm heel) <-
Risto Olimpico (2.2cm heel) <-
Reebok Legacy Lifter (2cm heel)*
Anta Chinese Weightlifting (2cm heel)*
Adidas Leistung 2 (2.5cm heel)

Collectors tier:
Asics 727 Tiger (2cm heel)* <-
Adidas Adistar 2008 (2cm heel)* <-
Adidas Ironwork 3 (2cm heel)* <-
Rogue Rippetoe Powerlifting (1.3cm heel)
Do-Win Rogue (1.3cm or 2cm heel)

* precise measurement unknown
** probably not the effective heel height. Adipowers have 3.3cm heel height, but effective heel height is 2cm.
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>>40212035
Damn
really surprised how decent Klokov's english is.
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>There is literally no brick & mortar store near me that sells PL shoes

REEEEEEEEE I JUST WANT TO TRY THEM ON BEFORE BUYING BECAUSE I'M ON A WEIRD BORDER BETWEEN 9.5-10 DEPENDING ON BRAND I HATE LIVING IN CANADA
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>>40212059
thanks
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>>40212099

Don't remind me, I can't fall in love again </3

>>40212104

iktf
they are usually true to size on length, just gotta check which ones are wide and which ones are narrow.
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>>40212104

>tfw 15 minutes from Rogue HQ
>despite this my gym has shitty barbells

Reeeeeeeee, use some of those membership fees and buy us some damn Rogue Ohio Power bars!
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>>40212104

My PL2's fit true to size in much the same way my Chucks do.
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>>40212096
Would you ever consider wearing oly shoes with your stinky smelly bare feet for about a month then selling them to a lucky /plg/ anon? Asking for a friend
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>>40211982

They're Adidas' attempt to make a crossfit trainer. The have heel cushioning and a softer heel.
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>>40212096
Dang, that's pretty in-depth, fanks bruv.
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>>40212184

My feet don't smell.

>>40212189

From what I've seen the heel is TPU, same material as: romaleos, adipowers, leistung, legacy lifter, anta's, etc.

It's definitely not "crossfit shoes". It's totally made for weightlifting.

I guess the main difference is the forefoot being totally mesh, so breathable and flexible... but still, I don't see what market they're targeting with these. You could argue it's the next adipower, but they are actually releasing new adipowers as well...
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>>40212233
I bet your benis smells when youre being a naughty girl and dont wash under your foreskin ;)
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i have this blunt pain in my knee, as if someone hit me with a bat.

feels weird man...
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https://www.fb.com/matthew.sohmer.9/videos/10208935487248515/

junior

drug free

800+ lb deadlift

wew
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>>40212233
>It's definitely not "crossfit shoes". It's totally made for weightlifting.

Nope. Literally lists cushioning in its features, and every review is people saying how great it is for crossfit. Amazon has them listed as a crosstrainer.
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>>40212287

Are you checking the Crazypower or the Crazypower TR?
The TR is for crossfit.

This one is for weightlifting https://www.adidasspecialtysports.co.uk/product/crazy-power-shoes/BA9169

>>40212272

Did someone hit you in the knee with a bat?

>>40212270

s-stop
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>>40212287

And the reaaaally drive my point home:

https://www.shopboxbasics.com/products/mens-adidas-crazypower-tr
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>>40212304
somehow they avoided any soft tissue and just went straight to the bone. Almost like they hit me from the inside out....2spoky4me
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>>40212334

kekkk

here
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>>40212304
o-ok sorry for being lewd

Serious question, is the head of your penis (under your foreskin) really sensitive? I can touch mine but just lightly rubbing it "hurts"
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>>40212304
>The TR is for crossfit.

Here is where our misunderstanding began and ended.

>You can still buy Powerperfect2's from Adidas UK
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>>40212341
>bone tumors
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>>40212348

kekkk :P

>>40212334
>>40212356

Forgot to mention, Patellofemoral pain syndrome is the most common type of knee pain. And it's probably what you're feeling.

>>40212344

same ;;
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>>40212368

So. Adidas UK is the only website where you can buy Crazypowers Weightlifting.

British people are weird.
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>>40212284
dad gum that's a big boy
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>>40212368
i-is that normal? Ive seen videos of grills pulling it back and licking the head like a lollipop but I would have to be tied to the bed and gagged to endure that.

Also when I have a bonner my foreskin still covers my head but I think that's because the skin is long and my penis is small
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>>40212368
yes! it's right here!
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>>40211654
talent literally just means short limbs
big squat and bench>just a big DL
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>>40212386

Maybe it's still to be released in north america?

>>40212400

>i-is that normal? Ive seen videos of grills pulling it back and licking the head like a lollipop but I would have to be tied to the bed and gagged to endure that.

It doesn't hurt when it's something soft like a tongue or the tissue inside the mouth. Fingers are too rough for the glans.

>Also when I have a bonner my foreskin still covers my head but I think that's because the skin is long and my penis is small

It's normal. It has to be that way so that your cock can glide inside the foreskin when hard - which is how it works if you're inside a vagina or butt. Forget about the mental image that your glans is supposed to be out all the time like in porn, that's because in american porn everyone is mutilated.
In regular sex, you're always gliding in and out of your foreskin when your cock is inside someone. (and don't worry, it feels even better for the person receiving it)
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>>40211187

nn all

Uncle Poutine probably wont be around to shitpost tomorrow, so y'all be good.

>I'm pretty much the Hawkeye in this band of /plg/ Avengers

>no talent
>old as fuck
>is the glue that holds the team together
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>>40212411
That's not all that is required. I have shortish legs and very short arms, but it doesn't help when I'm about as injury resistant as a 50 year old woman.
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I'm new to plg.
Why is it so full of non-lifting tripfags? I can't imagine these people are anything but fans of powerlifting..?
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>pause required on bench
>squats are all divebombs
what did powerlifting mean by this
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>>40212404
Strengthen your vastus medialis.
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>>40212447

>non lifting

Every tripfag here lifts.
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Has anyone noticed more normies using wraps? There was some fuck half squatting 2 plate high bar with wraps today
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>>40212458
I'd like to see proof
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>>40212458
Besides you
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>>40212447
The trips that lift don't get anything out of the same discussions about lifting endlessly recycled, so when the shitposting flavor of the day doesn't suit them they disappear.
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>>40212464
>squatting with raps
the fuk
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>>40212471

Start here >>40201079
And follow the responses.

>>40212474

Pic related
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>>40212471
>>40212487

Sorry, meant to say start here >>40201074
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>>40212439
Thanks for answering my questions trappy! Im glad my parents didnt cut my penis skin off, even though I havent had the chance to show it to anybody yet.
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>>40212487
That's a really suspicious image.

Looks almost like the bar is resting on the safety. I can't see how you're so upright if that's lowbar, your knees aren't even that far forward. I've seen Chinese oly champions with more forward lean in highbar squats
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>>40212443
No I'm Hawkeye cause I'm deaf but no one knows it because I'm super good at reading lips
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>>40212487
>bar resting on the safeties
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>>40212487
Why do you still cover your face when you post what you look like next pic?
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>>40211649
>>40212471
i look like a lift a little sometimes in the right light on a good day with a pump when I've been eating well for a month or more
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>>40212512

I just have good mobility.

It's almost on the safeties, but there's still a couple of cm between them.

>>40212509

Yes <3 intact cocks are the best

>>40212528

My face doesn't actually show in the squat pic. It's behind the plates. I put the maki pic there just to make it cute.
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>>40212487
upload the webm
just like your coaching job there is zero evidence to support you completed the lift
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>>40212529
man, they have therapists who specialize in body dysmorphia, norsie
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>>40212542

Nah, the video is for cool people only, like Norsie.
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>>40212536
Your feet are turned out more than 45 degrees and you're less upright in this image.
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>>40212536
>hips already shooting backward
and I wonder why you won't post the video

>>40212549
Do they have ones who specialize in blatant compliment fishers?
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You ever post proof of that muscleup trappy?
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>>40212563
>>40212566

Your back angle changes when you go ATG. It goes back to being more horizontal as you leave the bottom.

See klokov here, for example. Though he's highbar squatting, so his torso is more upright than mine (lowbar squatting). But you can see the change in angle as he goes up.

The feet are literally in the same place.
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>>40212572
>needing proof of a muscleup
I hit this before 1pl8 bench
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>>40212566
>Do they have ones who specialize in blatant compliment fishers?
Probably not, that's not really something that interferes with daily life, therefore irrelevant to clinical psychology
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>>40212517

No, I am the Hawkeye

George is Iron Man (cause equipped)
Bodorio is obv Thor
Boardshorts is obv the Cap cause roids = SS serum
Norse is The Hulk, this doesn't need to be explained
Trappy is probably Vision, because we don't know what the fuck is actually going on there and they've got a lot of knowledge
Alex is obv Warmachine
Twink Alex is Spider man cause IQ

We are currently accepting resumes for Black Widow, and Scarlet Witch.

You don't even have a proper trip, so you can be a B-lister like Falcon, or Ant Man
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>>40212581
Yours is way more egregious

notice how he balances pushing hips back with pushing knees forward and out to make it past the parallel stage. That's how you're supposed to ATG. Meanwhile you just shoot your hips straight back with no leg activation and transition into what I'm assuming is a full on good morning.
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>>40212601
The bully here would be unreal if Ant Man wasn't the best Marvel movie in the past decade
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>>40212621

M8

Paul Rudd is a national fucking treasure, and I meant no bully.
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>>40212588
Turn your trip back on
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>>40212601

>me
>the purple dude I've never heard of

reeeeeeeeeeeeee
I'll take one of the hot babes instead thanks

>>40212613

>Yours is way more egregious

He's squatting highbar, I'm squatting lowbar.

>Meanwhile you just shoot your hips straight back with no leg activation

Nope. You have no idea what you're talking about here.

>what I'm assuming is a full on good morning

Nope. I'm more upright than you think there, the plates are just blocking the rest of my torso.
You'd be able to visualise it if you were more used to seeing squats.
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>>40211642
Someone pls help
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>>40212651
>>40211642

Nuckols is ok
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>>40212651
an optimal beginner program is one where you're consistent, you Try Hard, and you E A T
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>>40212642
>reeeeeeeeeeeeee
>I'll take one of the hot babes instead thanks

No you are Vision. Vision isn't Purple, and they don't technically have a gender, this is not up for debate.

Bedtime for real
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>>40212651
That graph is fucked
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>>40211642
>>40212651

Just fucking do SS or SL you fucking retard. Quit overthinking it and go to the fucking gym.
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>>40212651

There is no one optimal.

But I'd bet my nuts on a program written by the beardy guy being pretty good for its intended purpose.
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>>40212661
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>>40212651
>triceps
>secondary muscles in the presses
wat
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>>40212663
How so?
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>>40212642
I'd be able to visualize if you weren't too insecure to actually post the lift, poser retard.

The bar moves 4 inches during the time your ass comes from ATG to parallel. Nice "squat".
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>>40212651
>OHP
>no abs
hmmmm
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>>40212671
>>40212676

>hamstrings
>secondary in the deadlift

>clavicular pec major
>tertiary in the OHP

Go figure. At least it's a bit more accurate than most of these.

>>40212678

t. never done a single lowbar squat to ATG
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>>40212651
>>40211642
This actually looks pretty fun, would definitely run instead of SS if I could go back
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there is nothing to do when staying up all night

fug
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>>40212688
No shit, why the fuck would I ever lowbar squat. Especially if I was gonna go ATG.

Low bar ATG squat is literally a meme exercise as is perfectly demonstrated by your hideous looking lift.
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>>40212706
marry me
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>>40212690

Likewise.

Biggest mistake I made starting out was going hyper-focused from the beginning and digging myself into a hole where it took ages to un-fuck problems developed as a result.
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>>40212697
Pick up a video game

A lot of Northern Europeans really like Dota 2 it's super fun and challenging
>>
hey instead of deadlifts, you lard asses should try fork putdowns
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>>40212721
Does that apply to me? I weigh 140#
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>>40212697

ikr
btw, I sent you a friend request on disc like 3 months ago and you haven't accepted yet :( I had deleted all of the friends back when I left in july.
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>>40212721
>not eating everything with your hands
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>>40212721
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>>40212723
auschwitz mode piece of shit.

you probably don't even lift.
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>>40212726

>being a fucking caveman

typical fatass.

>>40212729

oh no i've angered the natty fatty king
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>>40212732
I do and I'm even competing in less than two weeks
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>>40212739
t. numale cuck

I bet you fuck with a condom on too
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>>40212741

have fun at the special olympics.

mommy's favorite retard.
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>>40212745

t. landwhale

i bet you can't even find your dick
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tfw can't find a job
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>>40212724
add me again. I dont' check discord often.

>>40212718
currently in a game of civ 6
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>>40211427
I have paid boris to coach me online

everytime I did a deficit rep PR at 90% he would say "next time it is going 2cm lower"

that made deadlifting prs easy
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>>40212750
You're right bruv it disappeared into your girl ages ago haven't seen it since
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>>40212724
>I had deleted all of the friends back when I left in july.
Why? Are you autistic?
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>>40212777
Do you really have to ask?
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>>40212764

ages ago?

how long does it usually take you to finish?

they have pills for that kind of stuff now gramps.

and my girl doesn't fuck black people
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>>40212811
>no stamina
>lil whiteboi dick
>can't satisfy his girl
>probably runs a ppl
sounds about right
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>>40212833

>fat fuck
>thinks he pulls any pussy
>having to lie on the internet
>runs kfc
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>>40212690
>>40212713
Why would you run this shit instead of SS?
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>>40212849
Both these posts explain their reasoning
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>>40212842
>go into a powerlifting thread trying to talk shit
>get roasted by a guy who doesn't even powerlift
>probably a med or filthy anglo and not even actually white
>mad as fuck
>you
pick all
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just when you think you're over him
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>>40212878

>not white

guess again fatty
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>>40212729
Pics of Mark makes my boipucci wet desu
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>>40212885
You look like you might have brown eyes. People with brown eyes are not white.
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>>40212891

>some shitskin telling me i'm not white
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>>40212869
>"fun" AKA lack of dedication
>poor form which isn't the fault of the program
Okay, but any good reasons?
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>>40212885
>portuguese/rat hybrid
>white
oh god I am loling

dyel?

Alex Ajinca pls leave
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>>40212896
Takes one to know one, nigger
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>>40212885
God I just want to toss you around in bed and milk your cock until you empty your balls on my chest desu
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>>40212896
A white man (somebody with blue eyes), accusing you of not being white. If your eyes aren't blue, you're not really white. All is not lost though. There are some decent mid-tier races.
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>>40212129
Damn those are sexy
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>>40212901

say what you want.

doesn't change the fact that i look better than any of you fattasses

>>40212907

>admitting you're a nigger

case closed

>>40212910

>/plg/ - fags and fattasses

into the gas chamber
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>>40212449
Because then it would be a "pause squat" not a regular squat. It's just what a squat is and how it's always been performed
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>>40212922
>cried the stable boy
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>>40212898

The issues I had weren't form-based so much as developing some serious imbalances due to how the workload was distributed on the programs.

Fixing those made my numbers much better. Wish I'd done it sooner.
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>>40212884

Marcel squatting with flat shoes? O:

wew, that grind. How much is that on the bar?

>>40212918

And rare. Good luck finding them anywhere.

Hancott has a pair.
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>>40212922
>into the gas chamber
you look like you just came out of one

Nice Norwood brah

Only person you look better than here is trappy. Except he can still probably lift way more than you.
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>>40212943
He only uses heels during front squats.
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>>40212983
Lol why doesn't this guy do his stretches before he lifts the weight instead of during
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>>40212983
>BBBRRRRRAAAAAAPPPPPTTT
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>>40212993
>stretching before you lift

nooooppe
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>>40212983

Oh you're right! I was thinking about isley, who also has the pp2s and squats with somewhat wide stance :P
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>>40213052
>That level of redness
jesus christ
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>>40213117
welcome to being whiter than snow
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>>40213127
>you have been visited by resistance band jesus
>>
is norsie the tallest tripfag?
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New pr today 160kg squat
seems like I'm finally progressing now that I put some effort
>>
This is the ideal sumo technique.
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
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>>40213180
Sorry forgot to ask...
I'm begining to train at a PL gym, with PL coaches however...
I don't want to PL.
I have certain mechanical issues (gotta wear squat shoes for basically everything... Can I wear them for DLs?), so does that mean I have to lift in a PL fashion (e.g. From the floor), or can I modify it so it better suits my health requirements?
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>>40212884
Did he ever compete?
find it hard to believe no one found any meet results
>>
>>40213201
Don't really get what you're asking, if you dont want to powerlift. Why are you ? Or do you think bodybuilders don't do deadlifts or something?
>>
Woke up even more depressed
>>
Dr. Trappy.
I got massive heartburn and i feel like vomiting all the time. Pain above my abs and below chest

Whats wrong with me?
this started a couple days ago.
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hey guys what should i do if i'm madly in love with trappy chan?

i want to ask her out after i hit lmao2pl8 bench.

thoughts?
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>>40213196
hey trappy I wanna say thank for helping me decide on a pair of lifting shoes. the romaleos 2 fit great. I'll have to wait till Wednesday to actually use them but the fit is p much perfect. the orange laces are a bit cancerous though, will replace with black
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>>40211187
Smack dat ass Pepe!
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>>40213201

Why are you asking us this?
How do you expect any of us to be able to respond to it?

Yes you can deadlift in heels.

>>40213212

He has done 245/163/290 @88.5kg in a mock meet.

I'm not sure he ever competed.
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>>40213216
> if you dont want to powerlift. Why are you ?
Only gym that isn't either crosshit, spin classes, McPilates, or 24/7 machines... Also everyone there is really nice.
>Or do you think bodybuilders don't do deadlifts or something?
I am aware I need to do them, however can I do them off blocks? Is a TrappyBar acceptable? Essentially still doing them, but a more suitable variant.
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>>40213254
>Yes you can deadlift in heels.
Thank Trappmeister.
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>>40213201
>can I modify it so it better suits my health requirements?
You know the answer to this yourself.

Do what you want
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>>40213201

Which specific issues are these?
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>>40213260
You dont NEED to do them at all but you should listen to the coaches, if you have a preexisting injury im sure they will understand if you say you want to do a variation.

If you're not training specifically for Powerlifting you don't have to do full deadlifts ever really
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Here we see Genova purposefully quarter-squatting to train his knees to be able to withstand higher external loads. Despite using a lower weight, the training effect on the knee is the same as squatting heavier loads ATG as a result of his pissening form.
Genova is smarter than he looks. I may have to incorporate this into my training.
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>>40213239

Romaleos 2s are excellent shoes :) have fun with them!

>>40213228

Sounds like peptic ulcers. Can be caused by a lot of things, food and alcohol/acid drinks, drugs (NSAIDs commonly) and medicine, infections, etc etc.

>>40213223

Have you ever done ANYTHING to address this?
Have you ever seen a therapist?

Do you even want to stop being depressed or is it just too comfortable as is to try and change?
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>>40213294
thats a lot of weight to be going that low with
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>>40213294
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>>40213294
Such grace. That guy grabbing his glutes really knows what he's doing
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>>40213304
>Sounds like peptic ulcers
fug

thanks doc
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>>40213294

One of the best quarter squats I've ever seen. No wonder his quads are so MASSIVE.

>>40213308

Don't worry he has a spotter there.
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>>40213294
Ive had to spot a person squatting like this.
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>>40213223
wow stop posting anytime
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>ywn receive Yusuke's massive hip thrusts between your glutes while he trains his halfbench for multiple reps
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>>40213304
If I knew what to do I'd be doing it. Not only can't I afford a therapist, but there is no way I could ever bring myself to open up to somebody ever.
I've done it to one person and they just discarded me. I can't open up to people, I'm a prisoner of my own mind.
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>>40213367
stop crying

>inb4 prutus 100 word wall of text reply to you
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>>40213366
What is the benefit to benching like this?
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>>40213304
>Have you ever done ANYTHING to address this?
>Have you ever seen a therapist?
>Do you even want to stop being depressed or is it just too comfortable as is to try and change?
Thanks for your extremely condescending response but I have been seeing counselors and psychologists for the last 7 years.
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>>40213366
How do they get so big and strong ;ā€“;
I don't understand why I can hardly progress bench despite having a short wing span.
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>>40213367

>can't afford a therapist

Are you sure this isn't covered for free in your country's medical care?
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>>40213367
...Why do you have to open up to people
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>>40213287
>If you're not training specifically for Powerlifting you don't have to do full deadlifts ever really
Ah, thank you.
>>40213275
>Which specific issues are these?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereditary_multiple_exostoses
-Short Right leg.
-Vulgaris left leg with square ankle and hip similar to picture.
-Right arm shorter, shortened ulna on both arms.
-Minor scoliosis.
>picture not my xrays, but similar to me.
>>
And again, here we see our hero holding the bar incorrectly on purpose to help produce a more efficient training effect using lower weights.

By gripping the bar so extremely wrong, Genova is unable to transfer the maximal amount of force from his body to the bar, making the lift even that much harder on him in general.

Much like deficit deadlift training, Genova is putting himself in an unfavorable position so that the press will be just THAT much easier when he begins to utilize proper form as his meet date draws closer.
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>>40213372
I don't live to please other people, fuck off kid.
>>40213379
If I can convince a medical doctor I need it, chances are he will put me on anti depressants instead. And even if you do convince him, you have to convince several other people after.
Hard when you are reclusive
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>>40213294
>>40213396
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>>40213396
cash me owside how bou dah
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>>40213392
Basically I need one of those altitude masks people wear in the gym because getting to depth is incredibly painful.
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>>40213377

Sorry but if you are the anon who posts this every single day, someone has to "slap" you awake. Otherwise you won't take action to change where you are.

Try visiting a psychiatrist instead of just counsellors and psychologists.

>>40213397

>chances are he will put me on anti depressants

Yes that's part of the treatment for chronic depression.
>>
>>40213410
you are a big guy
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>>40213367
Get a job. Pick up a hobby and practice it. Do anything besides what you're doing now.

>>40213372
>implying my walls of text are 100 words and not 1000 words

lmao
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>>40213396
>tfw jason genova out benches u
it's over for me brehs just end it
>>
>>40213392

I would probably advise against doing traditional deadlifts then, unless you've got one hell of a physio to work with and get shit nailed down.
>>
>>40213396
That was actually pretty impressive
>>
How can I get good at bench without a FUPA?
I'm almost 100kg but my bench still sucks cause I can't get a FUPA and a big belly
>>
>>40213431
>training for 10 years
>2 plate bench "impressive"

mate
>>
>>40213396
>ywn cuddle with paul

pls love me
>>
>>40213431

I can do 245 lbs for 6 reps, paused, and I suck something fierce at bench
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>>40213431
He's been training forever and has unironically been taking steroids. Not that impressive tbqf famalam.
>>
>>40213436
please can you not uh talk about my gf that way
>>
>>40213434
Sheiko. Pause all reps. Except for those 10 rep sets on the pyramid schemes. Fuck those.

No I'm not trappy posting with Pau's trip.
>>
>>40213435
>>40213442
>>40213448
Looks like Genova outdid lith
>2pl8
>10years
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>>40213460
He's mine bitch, wanna fight me over him?
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>>40213466
Nice victim complex.

That will get you better.
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>>40213466
He's gonna do it! He's changing!
>>
>>40213466
Yea. Life isn't fair. You were dealt a shitty hand. Instead of wallowing in self-pity go do something.
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>>40213466
Keep feeling sorry for yourself, you worthless sack of shit
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>>40213424
>and get shit nailed down
Funnily enough I did three years ago.
>picture related
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>>40213492
fuck you baby

go cry somewhere else with your millenial problems
>>
>>40213492
Look at what came today lads!

All this knawledge
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>>40213492
Keepfeelingsorryforyourselfyouworthlesssackofshit
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3 Whites?
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>>40211344
Just a shot in the dark: Think of pulling your knees into your armpits.
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>>40213238
just give up, unless you want to be endlessly teased
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>>40211187
fucking hell who the fuck even makes these pepes
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>>40213560
Its a dumb Finnish imageboard meme
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>>40213435
245x6 with down syndrome technique

i've seen jcream do 275 for a few reps which is pretty good
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>>40213511
my back hurts by looking at this
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>>40213511
you dont go in the lockout in end position. no lift
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>>40211187

I just dumped a 225lb bar on my chest during last set of a 5x5 bench press.

Narrow thumbed IPF grip, have no idea what happened. I think it hit the uprights and it just popped out of my hand.

Lucky i lost most of my arch and the safeties on the ipf approved combo rack saved me.
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>>40213466

You seem to be missing an important part of my sentence:

>if you are the anon who posts this every single day

Which is not the case since this is the first time I'm ever hearing about this.

In this case I apologise for being condescending towards you, it was meant for someone else but the Anonymous nature of the imageboard makes it hard to identify people sometimes

I'm sorry to hear that life has been difficult for you.
Trust, I know how unfair and painful it can be. Maybe not in the same way that you do, but I've had my share of suffering

However, if you tell yourself you're a husk of a person, that's what you're gonna become.
You are what you fight to turn yourself into
If you're fighting to pull these old demons back into your life and turn you into a husk, that is what you're gonna be

If you fight to push these things away, you have a chance of being who you deserve to be. Yourself

As a very smart man once said, life is worse than anything or anyone you will ever meet. It is merciless and it will keep punching you until you're down on your knees, then it will keep punching you until you're down on the ground. And it's gonna keep you there if you let it. It's gonna keep punching you in the head and it's not gonna stop
So you have to fight and get up
It's hard, the hits hurt
But you have to get up and fight back

It will put you down multiple times, but as long as you keep fighting to get back on your feet, you won't lose the battle

Because it's not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forwards. How many times you can fall and get up and keep moving forwards

I know I can't even begin to imagine the type of pain you're going through or what you've been through, but one thing is plain to see, you're not a weak man. You're not a husk and you haven't given up yet
You have a fire inside you, lit from anger and pain, but still a fire and where there's fire there's light, and where there's light there's hope
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Touched with 210kg last night

Got it up with the aid of lifting my bum
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>>40213743
you
are
a
faggit
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>>40213770

>>40213770

>>40213770

>>40213770

>>40213770

>>40213770
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How much size I could gain to my quads by doing plyometrics like 2 times a week? Also what's the best way to train in order to gain some inches to my vertical leap?
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