Is 405 lbs. a respectable deadlift?

>>40168527
Are you happy about it? Literally all that matters.

That's more than probably 99% of the world can do so I'd say yes

>>40168527
Yeah, 400+ is not easy.

>>40168527
I love this guy. Also everyone on this board DLs 4pl8 for reps.

>>40168527

Isn't that the guy who fucks all the trannies?

Anything under 5pl8 is weak AF

>>40168527
for your first time at the gym, yes

>>40168527
You think that's a sausage pizza?

>>40168527
Hey, that guy has some nice traps

>>40168577
No everyone claims it few can do it.

My DL max is 435 and I still feel weak

>>40168686

Why is this board full of people with such low confidence and inability to actual recognize true accomplishments.

>>40168769
>implying 435 is a good DL

sure if your a skelly thats only been lifting for 6 months. If you can't deadlift 5 plates you aren't a man

>>40168615
Kek

>>40168797
implying it's not
end your fucking life you dysmorphic freak

>>40168820
This.

>>40168615
lmao

On this board full of austits, it's okay, you just started lifting probably for a year. In real world, many people are not committed to.fitness and it's a rare sight, stronger that 99% of people.
Any male within a year of consistent training should reach 4 plates

4pl8 is about average at my gym. It's nothing special.

To normies, yes.

>>40168840
Not the same guy, but 4 pl8 actually isn't impressive. Maybe in your DYEL world it is, but to normal people it's not. Hell, my brother started lifting just 1 week ago and he's already pulling 355.

>>40169093
>>40169322
This. Honestly it should only take about 6 months of training. 4 plates isn't much at all.

>>40169346
Yea if you start as an overweight manlet.

>>40168840
compared to people who dont lift it's impressive. however, 4pl8 dl is achievable in well under 1.5 yrs

>>40169093
This shit keeps me down
2y in and only 150kg

>>40169492
how?

>>40168527
It's a good beginner goal, but not objectively "good" among dudes that lift weights. Don't compare yourself to non lifters. That's like learning the main riff for Smoke on the Water on guitar, then feeling proud that you are superior to people that don't even fucking play.

Look up the results for local powerlifting meets. These are realistic but strong numbers you should be aiming for.

I'm not saying 4 plate is shit. Just don't think it's good because your non-lifter roommate can't do it.

Do all you heavy deadlift bros use straps?

I've just started my deadlift training so I hover between 1pl8 to an extra 20lbs each side.

I've neglected it cus I know my back is bad, but deadlifts honestly feel like they're helping with that. It's just that during the sets, it gets strenuous as fuck.

>>40169511
Don't know
I ate 3500 cal and did 5/3/1 want from 100 to 150

>>40169520
Then what's an 'objectively good' deadlift?

>>40169565
1000 lbs is objectively good.

>>40169565
3 times your bodyweight, so a fat fuck like eddie hall who weighs like 410 DLing 1100 still sucks.

>>40169265
I only ever saw one guy apart from me pulling 4pl8. Guess my gym sucks ass.

>>40169770
>Owning the all time DL record isn't good enough for twinks on the Internet
He said objectively you cunt. You think every 400lb fatass can deadlift 1,000lbs+?

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>>40169541
>Do all you heavy deadlift bros use straps?
hahah no
>I've neglected it cus I know my back is bad
You mean you spent years hunched over with shit poster which caused aches and then convinced yourself that exercising those muscles would some how be bad
> It's just that during the sets, it gets strenuous as fuck.
Who would have ever thought that the most physically taxing lift would be hard, really activated my almonds.

>>40169816
Of fucking course he does, he's a retard on /fit/. He walked into the gym the first day in jean shorts and sandals and hit 1/2/3/4 for reps.

>>40168527
damn i remember going to bigsausagepizza back in the day on my shitty laptop on dial up and it would take 20 minutes to load one of those 30 second previews and half the time it would time out and i had to reload.

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>>40168527
You need to build traps like this guy before you can think about deadlifting.

>>40169492
I am gonna give you a tip anon, if you are anything like me you worry to much about form, technique and all the other bullshit. just fucking pull the weight, unless you notice you pull it all with your lower back keep going and grind it out. I was almost in your position a while ago and stuck on 150kg because I always abandoned the lift as soon as Í felt my back (was just slight upper back rounding) or I changed my stance, technique and other shit all the time.

Eventually I just said fuck it and pulled the fucking weight and realised that it was all in my head. From one day to another I went from 150kg to 170kg and a few weeks later to 180kg. After 2 more months I now pull 200kg.

For me it was all in my head, I hated the DL I had too much fucking fear and doubt in my head and I would abandon perfectly fine pulls because I was paranoid as fuck from all the snapcity stories. hype yourself up before the next workout, put 160kg on the bar and pull that shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLvkhPEUgSc

>>40168527
Not to anyone that lifts.

>>40168527
No. It's literally 1 year of hard work. How's that respectable?
500 is somewhat respectable

I've been lifting properly for about 8 months and just hit 140kg x 5.

I hate myself. I genuinely can't envision ever pulling 4plate.

>>40168527
Name of chick?

>>40169976
500 for reps is respectable. A 500 1RM is pathetic though. If you can't DL at least 650, you're not a real man.

>>40170245
so if 650 is the absolute cutoff for being a little bitch I would assume you can pull atleast 800 right ? would love a webm your pull m8

>>40170245
650 is the end goal for average natty. How can you call that just respectable

>>40169976
Stop the 1 year meme not one of you fatass fatasses count towards heavy lifts.

If you arent aesthetic you dont even register on the 1/2/3/4 scale. Fatass fatass mode eliminates squat and deadlift progress because your body already has to physically support 270lb all day

ITT: If you can't DL just above what I can you're shit

>>40169346
Wrong. It should only take about 3 months if you're actually eating and sleeping right. Jesus where did all these fucking DYELs come from?

>>40170493
actually if you didnt pull 405 on your first gym day you should just kys. sounds like none of you faggots did any sports as a kid.

Fuck this thread and everyone in it except the christianposters.

>>40170383
Because he's another autistic shitposter like 95% of this stupid board

Official cutoff:
>590 DL
>Which is 1lbs more than the womens raw world record

if there is a single women on the planet who pulls more than you you are not respectable as a man.

My DL is at 275 and I started lifting in December.

>>40170552
Lmao sad.

ITT: dyels trolling dyels
none of you pull 4plates, dont kid yourselves.

>>40170676
>t. WEAKLING
lmao got ya

>>40169093

Yeah everyone can do gomad and be big fat of shit.

Hur dur Lmao you cant so 4plate while actually you are just doing 2.0 BW deadlifts which is not impressive at all.

All it matters a BW ratio, I cringe shen people boast about their numbers but never state their height and weight.

>>40170676
4 pl8 isn't even a lot of weight lel

>>40170727
it's not but this thread is packed with autistic dyel keyboard warriors. wouldnt be surprised if only 5% of us could pull 4plates

>>40170552
not fatty detected

is it more than 2x bodyweight? 2,5? 3?

>>40170676
I reckon a good 98% of this board cant pull 4pl8 for 5 reps

>>40170793
i can for 1 i think most people here pull it for one if they can

>>40170676
but my 1rm is 515

>>40169564
you did 5/3/1 with a 2pl8 dl?

>>40170676
I DL 495 you faggot.

>>40168527
It depends. By normie standards, yep!
But anyone who knows what theyre doing recognises it is just the beginning of the journey to bein a swole brah.
Look at Lotus, hes a lean and aesthetic 170, and moves 7plaet. Just work hard brahs and always keep em plates increasing.

>>40168615
>>40168832
>>40169077

Ya'll should be ashamed for getting that joke.

>>40168527
Yes. For both normies and all lifters.

>>40170452
Can confirm. Started off as a 300lb hacker and pulled 4pl8 the first time I diddlied after only a few sessions of squiddlies and barbell riddlies.

>>40168527
Depends on your weight and form. Either way yeah it is. Nothing top tier unless you a woman or lightweight but still means you put some work in.

>>40169565
2x bodyweight

>>40171165
>tfw 170, pulled 3 pl8 today
Almost there...

>>40168527
among normies it's a great deadlift

among people who train seriously it's entry level

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>>40171165

tfw 60KG pulling 130

>>40168527

It is the "4" in 1/2/3/4. So, yeah, it's the minimum to be able to say you're kinda strong.

>>40168527
Not really tbqh. I see tons of guys pulling 405+ for reps at my gym all the time.

>>40169492
Spend more time on the bar.
Grab the heaviest db and row for 15 or more

>>40171064
So do you ;)

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>>40168527
I think it is. I am going to ignore the bs in the thread and post my observations.

Current gym I have been at for 8 months. I am the only person i have seen to pull 405 or more.

Previous Uni Gym (50,000 students)
> one guy pulled 4pl8 for 3 reps. it was his first time doing it. good form.
> saw 2 guys pull it sumo, with straps.
> saw 1 guy pull 6 plates for 3 reps. Biggest DL i have seen in person.

So in 2.5 years of lifting I have only seen 2 other people pull pl8. Even over in /plg a lot of guys aren't there yet.

So I think it is objectively good. Vast majority of /fit/ estats. But at a power lifting meet it is not good at all.

>>40170508
I was lifting over 405 at my job.... you don't need to go to the gym to lift fucking babyweight

>>40170516
thanks for sparing me, anon.

Also, 405 is a good deadlift if you can maintain form and speed and hit 3 reps.

>>40169541
No. I switch to mixed grip for pulls after 315. No straps ever

>>40169541

I'll use straps if my hands are beat up, I'm doing certain variations (mostly rack pulls or snatch-grip work) or I need to spare my grip for something else in the week. Most of my work is still done with either hook or mixed.

>>40169093
I was able to get 4 plate in like 2 months. I'm giving myself the full year of 2017 for 5 plate.

>>40169565
5 plate is good for most men. Over 6 plate is pretty damn impressive for people of normal body weight.

if you're a twink that is like 5' 5" and weighs 130 or something, then shoot for 3x body weight.

>>40171165
No. That's a like a couple months of lifting for that majority of men. If that. That's less than 3 plate for dudes that are 150 lbs. 2x body weight is an okay squat, but barely even intermediate deadlift.

The real question is when does everyone's grip start to give out? I exclusively deadlift double overhand. My grip starts fading around 335.

>>40174799
I go to the University of Alabama (35000). Junior here. Work out 4 days a week every single week of my life here. I will tell you the heaviest lifts I have seen no estats
>385 bench press for 3 three reps
>Deadlift, 4 plate, not even trolling
>Squat, 6.5 plates, this was from some 250 lb competitive lifter who I don't think works out regularly at university gym

I regularly see a two plate bench press, not much over though generally. Squats are usually shitty form 2.5 plate quarter squats. If you do more than this, you're probably a pretty strong lifter. As for deadlift, I'd say four plates

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>>40174982
This. 1/2/3/4 are very respectable stats imo.

>>40169265
I've seen maybe 10 people deadlift in total over 4 different gyms in the last 5 years. Where the fuck do you work out where 4pl8 is normal?

Tranny name?

>>40168527
I'm jaded now, but I remember what it was to hit 405. It's a good feel and decent. If you train for strength specifically though it's painfully average

>>40168527
No

For natty:

1/2/3/4 is good.
2/3/4/5 is top.
3/4/5/6 is olympic genetics territory, or final form.

If not natty:
-none of it matters because you took roids and still can't compete with the best, way to suck

1/2/3/4 is easy for any adult male if you actually train properly (m/w/f full body) and stop worrying about getting all your meme-isolations and meme-extra days in the gym.

Anyone who says other wise probably trains 4-6 times a week doing tons of isolations ontop of their main lifts and simply cant recover properly enough to get strong.

>>40170242
>chick

Austin Kincaid

>>40176000
Except there's no way it scales like that once you're past 1/2/3/4 and you're talking complete shit.

>>40176091
Why wouldn't it?

My best lift is deadlift and I'm currently:
2.5/2.75/4.5/6

(weak bench lel)

>>40176107
You can strict press 275 but can't bench 315? Bull shit.

>>40176159
Isn't it weird? My db shoulder press max is 10lbs lighter than my db chest press. It makes no sense.

>>40169322
>Deadlifts half his bodyweight
>Berates others for their deadlift.

>>40168527
I just got to 315 4x5 on mine, so I can respect it.

>>40168577
I've done 5 plate for 3 reps

>>40176107

Because the ratios change as you add plates and it skews the numbers (which are pretty fucking arbitrary to begin with) in favour of the lighter lifts. At 1/2/3/4 your press is ~60% of your bench and a third of your deadlift. At 2/3/4/5 its ~70% and 45%. At 3/4/5/6 it's nearly 80% and 55%.

>>40168535
You are such a faggot

>>40174799
Yeah bro, 1/2/3/4 is actually impressive for the average gym goer, I barely see anyone pull those numbers.

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>>40168527
It's more than I can do, good job.

a 4pl8 deadlift is good in a public gym, but shit in a powerlifting gym. so the question is whether you want to compare yourself to clueless retards in public gyms or people who actually take lifting seriously. it is NOT hard to reach a 4pl8 deadlift if you do things right, so in my opinion it's not impressive at all. I consider myself a lifter and want to compare myself to other lifters. if you're content with being better than the average trash you find in public gyms then go ahead, but don't get offended if people on /fit/ don't suck your dick for your mediocre accomplishments.

a 4pl8 deadlift is like a 1st degree TKD black belt

to the average joe you're super fly

but to people who know what they are doing, you're just a beginner

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>>40170479
>everyone who's weaker than me is a scrub


>everyone who's stronger than me is on gear

>1pl8 dead lift
are you ill?
>2pl8 dead lift
are you a woman?
>3pl8
normie typical deadlift max
>4pl8
normie strong, hobby powerlifting average
>5pl8
powerlifting respectable
>6pl8
powerlifting strong
>7pl8
powerlifting seriously strong

>>40169492
Get pumped

Pull the fucking weight

It's all in your head

>>40169492
Anon ...

Unless you are skinny boi with girly body thats pretty weak

Im lifting for 4 months and i pulled 160kg for one with shit form that resembles stiff legged diddly

>>40170676
Stop making us look bad you limp-wristed faggot

Week ago I pulled 4plates on deadlift, and it was one of the best moments of my life, since it was my last lift on 1/2/3/4

You can't take that away that moment from me you little bitch

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>>40168615

>>40168527
Maybe to a DYEL it's respectable. Anyone that actually lifts should get 4 pl8 easily though.

>>40177902

nah he's right

within reason

Lmao this thread. Are people just playing along the baits?

>>40168527
doesn't matter
keep loading it
800lbs CMON

>>40170631
Well I do the 275 for reps. Could probably manage 325 twice. Still shit? I wouldn't know. I've only DL'd like five times.

>>40170715
4plate is 2.2bw for me. Honestly, 2bw is respectable that you actually lift to normies. People on this board are comparing themselves to powerlifters, but 1 year of hard BB work to reach 4 plate is the real respectable part.

I'd say sure, if you're under 200 pounds, but it's really only the starting point. No one is going to be impressed, but no one is going to be making fun of you either.

>>40178465
This is pretty accurate.

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>>40177890
Those percentages are so wrong bro

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>>40168527
No, it is not. 5'10" 170 lbs.

>>40168527
When you think about it globally, how many men can actually pick up 405 lbs off the ground? Not many. It's very respectable, regardless if you're comparing it to everyone or just gym goers.

Do you guys train deadlifts 1rep-max or for reps?

>>40180483
>5'10
lol
like anybody will ever think you aren't just compensating

>>40180483
Manlet