Stop using the bench if you can't at least bench your body weight

>>40157330
what do i use instead

>>40157333
You squat.

>>40157358
i squat more than all other lifts put together

do people make fun of me when i lift with an empty bar?
i cant see them

>>40157330
You have to start somewhere idiot,keep using the bech guys.

>>40157333
Bodyweight until you can do handstand push up.

>>40157389
You start with fucking pushups.

If you can't even bench press your own bodyweight, you're using up valuble oxygen around the bench.

>>40157385
Why even bother? What do you think you're accomplishing with that?

>>40157405
>you're using up valuble oxygen around the bench.

and the bench.

'no'

>>40157414
i think im exercising so i can progress gradually

>>40157330
>stop working out if you're not already strong
>stop dieting if you're fat
>stop doing cardio if you have low cardiovascular endurance
I started benching when I could barely bench half my body weight. Now I can bench 1.5x.

>>40157385
No. I maxed 55 pounds when I started lifting, can now rep 2pl8. Every big guy in the gym was either weak or fat when he started, only insecure lifters are going to mock a beginner. I don't even notice the DYELs, I only notice when there's some big guy going for 4pl8s.

>>40157330
This is only valid for manlets.

>>40157330
what if i weigh 450lbs

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If I can do a push-up, why can't I bench my bodyweight?

>>40157869
You can. Try it. Just make sure you don't warm up though, don't want to lose any energy.

>>40157869

Because you don't move your whole bodyweight full ROM even in a strict pushup

>>40157373
>i squat more than all other lifts put together
do you just not do diddlies?

>>40157855
That makes you a powerlifter.

>>40157869
>pushing maybe 25% to 50% of your body weight means you should be able to push 100% of your body weight.

>>40157405
All the push-ups in the world won't make you strong enough to bench press your bodyweight.

>Inb4 weighted push-ups
Why bother when you can just bench? There's no benefit.

Should I expect to reach being able to bench my 2pl8 / 225lbs while I'm on my first cut as a lifting newbie?

I don't attempt 1rep max but last time I benched, i reach 175 2-4 reps but I fluctuate. Started just benching 1pl8 10 reps.

I'm currently 204lbs btw.

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>>40157915

this is now an YLYL thread

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>>40157961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocBSzj9UDYg

>>40157978
I would guess yes. I cut down to 175 from 198 and was still able to hit 225 for 1 on a few occasions.

>>40157987

"on each bend the angle at the elbows must reach 90 degrees or less"

not one single fucking time did that happen during the entire video

>>40157987
Yes I'm sure about that. Not going to bother opening that video.

>>40158058
Of course you won't. It might prove you wrong.

>>40157869
>>40157933
IIRC push-up is equal to roughly 60℅ of body weight

>>40157373
i'm in love with you please marry me no homo

oh wow
this thread is full of shit

>>40158161
What do handstand push ups have to do with progressing from just push ups immediately to body weight bench press? If anything a handstand push up is more like an OHP. Please explain your logic here.

>>40157385
reminder that most people just look over at people who are lifting less than them as a motivator to see how far they themselves have come, no real put down or insults implied

soon you'll be looking at people who were in your place once while pushing 1 pl8, 2 pl8 etc and it will make you push yourself further

>>40158513
And it's more like a 60% bw bench on the smith machine. The floor isn't moving so you don't use any of the stabilizer muscles you do free weight benching.