What was the most effective, legal (at the time) supplement you've

No shit it was effect, it had goddamn meth in it.

>>40156558
Must be why I am so desperate for another scoop...

I work in the oil patch, this shit got used so much we had to ban it from site, fuck did it work though.

What was better this or og Jack3d?

>>40156551
What's that OP?
>Preworkouts now are terrible, and basically just caffeine and creatine.
So true.

>>40156758
How bad, realistically, is it that it had trace amounts of meth? Is there a safe amount to even consider taking?

I've been using that Grenade stuff before workouts and when I know I'll be pushed hard for work.

Stuff has me buzzing

Any of you try GAT? I have a can from a few years back and I could never take more than a scoop, last time I tried I was so wired I ended up leaving the gym because all I could do was throw up. Shit is cash tho

Craze was my favorite too, and it if it indeed had an ingredient that structurally resembled meth or whatever, it must be weak af- cause I had no withdrawals and I took that stuff for 2 years.

>>40156558
original Jack3d had meth in it. Craze couldn't hold a candle to it but it was the next best thing.

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>>40156991
Had Same experience I took 2 scoops and it gave me an ocular migraine and I couldn't see from my left eye

>>40157459
that stuff in jack3d is coming back on the marked boy i cant wait

>>40157459
"Jacked had meth in it"

Where do you idiots get this stuff from? It had DMAA which occasionally resulted in a false positive for meth (also maybe because of a compound similar to a decongestant used in the meds used to make meth)

>>40159050
sauce? i used to take that shit when i was 16 prob fucked me up somewhat, never experienced anything like that since they killed it off

>>40159101
DUST EXTREME
by blackstone labs, google it

>>40157459


It had DMAA, you dumb fuck. It was my favorite prework supp until two soldiers took too much of it before going on a run/doing PT. Both died, an investigation was launched and Jack3d was banned temporarily until they removed the DMAA. They never quite recovered.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/business/army-studies-workout-supplements-after-2-deaths.html
It was the shit, too. Your fingers would tingle.

>>40159101
>>40159147

https://blackstonelabs.com/collections/pre-workout/products/dust-extreme

There was this pre-workout a few years ago that came in a blue packaging and I think it had an orange sticker on it. It was banned by the UK gov because muh nanny state, probably some retard wanted to burn all his fat because muh ibiza trip in a week and got a cardiac arrest like they always do. Can't remember what was it called.

Didn't exactly jack me as much as it numbed me down into this comfy uncaring buzz. Better than any other pre-workout that just pumped me with caffeine and made me twitchy.

Now I take a pill of ECY + 1g of phenibut pre workout. Best combination so far.

>>40159166
yeah boy

>>40159153

This.

>>40156551 and this

>Preworkouts now are terrible, and basically just caffeine and creatine.

I usually just take whatever is on clearance wether its cellucor, ON, xplode, MP, they're all interchangeable. And then I buy Beta Alanine in bulk via ebay, throw in an extra scoop or two of that for them face tingles + BCAA's.

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MTest 2 Reloaded by BMF Hardcore.
Got eliminated pretty quick. Essentially Oral T. And it was amazing.
This was the only pic I could even find on google.

Would a double espresso provide enough energy for a non coffee drinker?

>>40159094
I still have a supplier of craze and other pwos with DMAA

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>>40156551
>>40159094
>>40159153
>>40159335
Does anyone with a brain ITT know where to order pure DMAA powder anymore? Nutrishop stopped selling it. I know mesomorph has it but i literally just want pure DMAA not all the other meme shit.

>>40159474
Could you please put me in your will if you find a supplier
dat heart attack

>>40159458
Oh yeah you can still easily find it with even the most basic of Google search.

>>40156551
Have had success with SARMs, which you can buy in bulk from medical chemical supply warehouses.

As far as preworkouts go, early jack3d and 1MR were awesome because of the DMAA in them. I remember when it was first reported that they were liquidating their stock of PW's with DMAA everyone started buying up in mass quantities. Shame it is gone now.

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>>40159493
I would if i could bro. Best thing Ive found is
https://www.a1supplements.com/hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-off-the-chain
Its caffeine
DMAA
and some bcaas.
So its the closest ive found to pure DMAA.

>>40159510
Local supplier.
It's illegal to buy any kind of supplement from outside of my country.. Even fucking vitamins gets you fucked by the police.

>>40159474
Nootropicsource has it in solution form.

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>>40156551
>Albutarex
Does this shit count?

Some lad gave it to me ages ago. Seemed to work, but it may just have been placebo or due to my heavy work load back then.

>>40159510

Could be wrong but from what I remember DMAA is not technically illegal to use or sell, it just has a really bad reputation due to the lawsuits etc, so most large brands don't want to put it in their stuff. So yeah, you can probably buy it in bulk online and just dose it however you want.

>>40159566
Nice, ive never ordered from them before. They a trusted source?

>>40159609
Looks like it has metabolism, intensity, energy, and focus in it. Good stuff.

Is pretty much everything stronger than caffeine banned in the UK due to the Psychoactive Substances Bill?

Glutamine Powder

Not illegal but I had to post that this stuff works pretty good. I notice a verifiable effectiveness in recover the next day after consuming this stuff. I'd say around 15-20% reduction in DOMS. Which isn't a boat load but a significant amount which makes me wish I took it whenever I forget. 10$ unit lasts many months, give it go!

>>40159008
Holy shit man. Yeah that stuff is serious lol

>>40159857
How new are you?
Also fyi the best time to take glutamine is on an empty stomach first thing in the morning to increase IGF1 release

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>>40156614
>>40157054
>>40157459
>>40159050
>>40159094
>>40159101
>>40159153
>>40159458
>>40159474
>>40159493
>>40159650

>>40159986
Nigger we've already listed like 3-4 brands that still have DMAA in them. Thats not surprising at all. You can literally google Mesomorph right now and order it online.

>>40159857

If you work out often enough, DOMS should never be a problem

>>40160001
Now you have a timestamped pic to prove it.

How does ephedrine compare to DMAA?

>>40159910
New to what? Supplements? I'm not in the game per se - protein shake infrequently, glutamine, i have some creatine but haven't taken it yet. Been lifting a year, practicing strict form and learning exercises. Nothing else matters until you get knowledge and progression on the gym first.

>>40160008
True, but for various reasons I'll still miss 3 days, on occasion, and may start back in on chest then back....squats may get neglected by accident for up to a week or 10 days.

Hydroxycut Hardcore Elite MLG 420 whatever the fuck they called it.

Tried it 3 years ago. My focus and energy was absolutely godlike. The downside was my stomach was so fucking hot that I had to drink a half gallon of ice water whenever I took it. Basically made me say "lol no" to food and made me shake like a jackhammer.

I don't know if they stopped making it or changed their formula but holy fuck that shit made me lose weight quick. I could focus better wit it than adderall and my metabolism went full YEAH BUDDY when I was on it.

>>40160043
What? Dude literally go to google and type in mesomorph.
I also posted
https://www.a1supplements.com/hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-off-the-chain
There are lots of brands that still have DMAA you dumb mong. Now go order some shit and stop acting lucky and superior.

>>40160070
I meant new in general cause they way you spoke made you seem super new. Also if youre still getting DOMS something is wrong. Those only occur when you are brand new or take a large break from lifting.

>>40160049
IMO ephedrine kicks it's ass into oblivion. Worse sides though.

>>40160101
I've occasional had some breaks, nothing longer than a few days but still correcting form will make my lifts new at times. E.g., lifted chest the other day and am slowly getting shoulders out of the way so pecs are targeted more. Hence, still feel them today, slightly, and its been a few days. checking out IGF 1, thanks.

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>>40160176
Heres the link
http://www.futurescience.com/hgh.html
If you dont want to read the entire thing just search for the word glutamine and read that part.

>>40156551
Fuck, I miss that PWO so damn much.

i like 5150 desu no memes. plus it almost gave rich a heart attack.

>>40160371
Hes a bitch. I tried it and it wasnt bad at all. Im completely dead to caffeine though thats why i like DMAA.

I remember taking the original jack3d, it was the first pre-workout I ever used.

My logic was that if they were selling it then it must be safe, would regularly take double the recommended dose on an empty stomach. The workouts were amazing, but then I would literally spend 6-8 hours stroking my cock to porn, was wild.

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>>40159166
>$55 excluding shipping
get the fuck out of here. sour gummy bear flavor sounds tantalizing though

>>40159147
>>40159166
Jesus christ the stimulants in that shit

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>>40159540
is this shit a meme, 25$ for 60 servings about to try some of this

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Is there anything comparable to this available now? Shit was amazing for cutting

>>40161048
Barerly. You pretty much need 2 servings to get 300mg caffeine. Still a great deal.

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I'm loving prejym at the moment.
No jitters but got dayum my skin tingles.

>>40161254
>prejym
Used to take this, i remember it was great and so was the flavor but it was insanely fucking expensive.

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>>40161366
Eh, it's not bad in my opinion since I only need one scoop, even while cutting.

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>>40161565
might as well post the rest while I finish my PWO.
Forgot I saved these.

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>>40161633

I used to take a pre workout with DHAA just cause it was on offer.

Was 'fine' but it would give me slight, but full body spasms.

Since banned in UK due to someone taking it before doing the London marathon (???????) But desu i wouldn't bother again... at the risk of sounding like your dad... banana,coffee ft. teaspoon of brownsuger, creatine is fine for me.

So to answer OP the best supplement i have taken is creatine monohydrate.

>>40159153
If I remember correctly they took far more than the maximum recommended dose.

>>40157459
I preferred Craze. Tolerance also seemed to be less of a problem.

>>40161254
>>40161565
>>40161623
>>40161633
>>40161646
Dude wtf am i looking at?
You blend egg whites with a pre workout?

>>40161646
>the fucking fit meme hoodie.
10/10

>>40156551

picked up a quantity of DMAA for nutra before they stopped last year.

take DMAA just before leaving work, sling down the rest of the stuff when I get home, 15 minutes later it's like I 'm invincible. You can't feel the heavy squat, the bar feel so light in your hand during bench, and fuckall forbid you try to clean a bar

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>>40161903
>>40161939
Not me guys, just finished lifting sorry for the late reply.

Was a screen cap from ages ago.

This sick kunt activated his almonds with preworkout, blended it with egg whites.

Then pounded the whole thing for gains.

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>>40161939
Kek

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>>40162319
>Nootropicsource

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>>40159153
>my fingers would tingle
I remember that feel bruh

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>>40162554
You forgot your /sips/ wojak