Help /fit/ I did max load squats today (only lmao2pl8), and want

>>40141584
bump for genuine help

>>40141584
most programs have you doing them both in the same day.
so better off having a rest day

>>40141584
I would not deadlift. Get proper recovery.

>>40141788
>>40141814
dammit, ok thanks dudes.

>>40141584
If max load is 2pl8 and your dead is 3pl8 you're fine to hit deads if you're not cutting.

>>40141983
obviously this is what I wanted to hear but why? Just not enough stress on my body yeah?

>>40141987
If you're not cutting then you're either eating at maintenance or bulking. 225 squats don't stress the body enough to need significant recovery time before deadlifting 315. If you get enough sleep and food then as a beginner you can easily deadlift, squat, and press every gym session without burning out your CNS.

>>40142034
enjoy snap city I'd you follow this advice

>>40142094
Most of your gains are made in recovery. As you advance you need more time to recover. OP isn't lifting heavy enough to need days before deadlifting. What I said is true for beginners, they can start at just the bar and do compounds literally every day and make progress if they sleep at least 8 hours and eat enough calories.

If your lower back doesnt hurt you can diddly just fine. If you have stress on lower back going then take day of rest and work on fixing your form on squat.

You can squat every workout just fine unless you are pushing yourself to the max. Deadlifting isnt advised that often because lower back recovers slower than lets say quads and other skeletal muscles.

Also when your cns is fried your grip will be weak, and you will get shaky body during heavy pull which can lead to snapcity

If your form is good and you dont have any pains or significant soreness then lift away famalam.

People make overtraining too much of excuse to not lift.

>>40142202
> beginners don't need to rest

>>40142217
Eventually they'll need to, but someone just starting out can go on and on without burning out if they sleep and eat enough. You're severely underestimating how well a beginner can adapt.

>>40142217

They tend to need a lot less than more capable lifters, simply because they don't have the mass or neuromuscular coordination to really put a beating on themselves the way experienced lifters can. Especially right at the start when 90% of the effort is just in doing the movement properly.

>>40142250
>>40142271
You idiots train a lot of people how to lift weights that were previously sedentary? Obviously not. The first few weeks of compound movements will cripple them, even isolations will cause doms for up to a week.

>>40142287

Actually, yeah, I do. That was kind of my job for a few years (PTing for a chain and herding the newbies at a warehouse gym)

You know what the best way of alleviating DOMS is? Movement.

>>40142305
i can see why you don't have a job anymore

>>40142287
DOMs ain't shit, you can work through it. If a beginner is motivated enough to want to do compounds that often then they're motivated enough to work through DOMs or find a way (foam rolling) to deal with them. Faggot.

>>40142319
>>40142305

Or you could program them an appropriate amount of rest. Pretty sure you had a lot of clients immediately quit and tell everyone they knew to find a different trainer.

>>40142352

Never had one quit over soreness. Picked up a few over that though (beginners may not need a lot of rest, but they do need appropriate volume - jackasses running them into the ground from day one are just fucking their clients).

>>40142034
>225 squats don't stress the body enough to need significant recovery time before deadlifting 315
that's bullshit. You have no idea of OP's physical condition. If 225 is his 90% max, then it's going to be taxing him heavily. Then, he is gonna deadlift the next day? Nah, not a good idea.

>>40142431
225 lbs squats cannot tax the body to where the next the lifter cannot deadlift 315 unless the person lifting is doing a significant amount of repetitions and sets.

>>40142431
>225 is his 90% max,
thx for ignoring this

>>40142705
Since you keep bringing it up like an ignoramus, here. IF 225 is his 90% max then he can still continue to adapt in a rapid enough manner to set a new squat max every time he squats. That makes a beginner/novice. Ergo he's fine deadlifting the next day. Beginner routines like SS have you doing deadlifts right after squatting even while you're squatting 275 lbs and deadlifting 335lbs. You only have to periodize when you lift heavy enough to need the recovery. Stop propagating bullshit and trying to rob OP of strength gains, you faggot.