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/Fraud/ - Steroids, Bimbo's "ex," and /ck/ general

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>>40061747
>>40061747
>>40061747

How long will it last this time until bimbos sucking on milky titties again? - edition
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>>40074084
Probably for good considering I'm being mean af
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>>40074084
>milky titties
Pajama, pajama!
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Is this natty limit? If so, I don't want to be natty anymore.
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>>40074103
Loved this movie.
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>>40074120
Flip is a motherfucker.

An absolute motherfucker.
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>>40074120
Yeah though, that should probably be a thing.
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>>40074139
What's that? Little Nemo? It's been a thing for like 30 years.
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>>40074144
Haw.
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Can I filter tinder by "Asian hos" or "is hentai"
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>>40074178
Nope, still waiting on that and the Sinead O'Connor filter.
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>>40074227
Lame
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>>40074227
Do you reckon i could get tren e to hold at 200mg/ml with no BB?
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>>40074104
He looks like he has some kind of shoulder deformity wtf
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>>40074092
Really you said way too much and made it obvious how much you still care. Should have quit after the first message. Not replied with a wall of text.
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>>40074574
He's dropping it low to show shoulder striation. He's proud of it and sees it as a benchmark.

My soup was hella thicc! Oof!
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>>40074586
Duh. But I'm not playing games to win her back or impress. I was smoking in my car, she knocked on my window and I told her off so idk what to tell you m8O
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>>40074092
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>>40074355
Maybe, I haven't tried without BB, I suspect it'd be close either way.
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>>40074104
>my life for Aiur
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>>40074964
Okay thanks bro
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>>40074104
>that face
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>TFW reading about tren cough

Why do people do this again? Tren effects seem scary af
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>>40074092
FIERCE

the inevitable rebound makeup sex is gonna be so rough
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>>40075328
>Why do people do this again?
WHATEVER IT TAKES
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>>40075328
hur dur 1/50 chance of coughing for 30 seconds to look like a god and earn hundreds of thousands of dollars posing on stage and posting instagram pics
i wonder why people do it
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>>40075451
>1/50 chance of coughing for 30 seconds
you underestimate how dumb some people are. we have one at my gym who coughs literally a third of the time like a goddamn coal miner. i agree otherwise though.
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Should i hop on gear to get aesthetic and try to become a personal trainer? I have no future and this seems to be the only option.
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>>40075465
How is it so bad for some people? Is it just a matter of using tren A instead of E? Other than when I pin i cough about as much as someone with a small cold.
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>>40075504
if you have no future im going to assume your lazy which means you wouldnt have the drive to get clients/start your own business etc

so you want to work for someone else.. fine, no problem with that except for the fact that your aesthetics are only going to last for a little while - before you know it you'll be a middledaged balding overcompensating roider with a dead end job who gets laid off for a more aesthetic younger version of himself
then what? you have no money to survive on because you've earned a pretty shitty wage all your life and you'll have trouble finding another job because your only work experience is being a roided up loser failing at helping fatties 'tone' their body at planet fitness

dont waste your time, it's finite - slang roids for $$$ to pay for university - do a course that interests you but will allow you to live comfortably and retire before your 50 so you dont end up hating your life
work hard and you'll be rewarded
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>>40075509
depends on ester, how much and where (and how "good") you pin, and some people respond worse than others. said guy at my gym is claimed to yoloblast like a gram of tren a so ymmv
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>>40075465
>>40075509
that's not a thing man

tren cough is a thing during the injection, it's not a semi permanent thing you keep as long as you're on tren
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>>40075554
>nobody has ever pinned anything preworkout (although that's a dumb thing to do with tren imho) and thus coughed in the gym
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>>40074104

Somebody lost the genetics lottery, not even roids can fix this mess and face.
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Do you guys have issues with high blood pressure? I'm on a pretty low dose of just Test E, but still hover right between prehypertension and hypertension stage 1, despite a fuckton of cardio and clean diet.
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>>40075585
yup

it's "okay" as long as you pay attention to it and don't let it go on too long (ie, don't blast for 6 months)
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>>40075561
ur retarded lmao. Tren cough literally happens during and immediately after the injection. Not 10mins later when they are in the gym. Unless the nigga is shooting up on the bench at the gym ur not hearing a fuckin tren cough u dumb azz retard.
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>>40075585
I had elevated BP until I started taking some aromasin.
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When people talk about diuretics in bodybuilding is it the same shit you would take before a colonoscopy?
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>>40075627
well he does scatter off to the toilet before he starts his work sets so i dunno. maybe he has just some other lung affliction i dunno about, i have bigger issues.

>>40075635
not necessarily. those are way stronger and have you shit your life out in agony, not something you want to do pre-comp.
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>>40075585
Coq10, niacin, and water

>>40075635
I imagine those are stronger
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>>40075649
>>40075697
They are stronger? Lol
I don't think they are a big deal really but then again I'm not 4% bf taking them.
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>>40075711
anecdotal evidence, but those i had to take before mine had me suffer like a dog for two days, expelling a seething torrent of putrid stuff from all my holes, whereas coffee, sodium cheating, dandelion root, stinging nettle, and otc diuretics just have me piss five times a day and that's kinda it.
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>>40075727
>expelling a seething torrent of putrid stuff from all my holes
Lmao sounds fun. They just make me poop for like two hours and that's it.
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>>40075795
they didn't tell me i should fast for a day before taking them. day before was my sister's birthday, we had a massive bbq. might have played a role kek
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>>40074092
What did she do? Or was it not one thing, more a gradual realisation on your part that it was an unhealthy relationship?
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>>40075548
>before you know it you'll be a middledaged balding
it already happened

>dead end job
i guess it will be way better than my actual job

>you have no money to survive on because you've earned a pretty shitty wage
this is happening as we speak. I will have to kill myself or die from starvation

>do a course that interests you
no such thing plus i can't afford anything like that. I can't even afford food

>will allow you to live comfortably and retire before your 50
never heard of such thing being possible in my country. People here work until 75 years old (if they won't die earlier)

>so you dont end up hating your life
too late
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> want to try out Postmates (Uber for food/grocery delivery basically) w/ black slave but something always happens
> so we plan Wednesday no matter what
> Jeep's fan control system stops working and overheats if not moving, short in the PCM/computer apparently, so I hotwire the fan directly to the battery
> we head to the city as Postmates is only available in areas with no parking
> we drive for 3 blocks and there's a mangled red car upside down and people wandering around it
> stare at it for a second and pull over, call emergency services and the fire department that's a half mile away
> car had lost control on a shitty mountain road, skid off the road, hit a stubborn rock at a corner, and rolled about 100 ft
> college-age kids wandering around outside the crash, one girl has a hole in her head and she's screaming "I didn't mean to"
> there's a girl trapped in the car and black slave runs over, the car's frame cut into her skull and there's literally a piece of scalp and hair laying on the ground
> 'I don't want to die", "I want my mom", "I want to go home", etc
> black slave hands her blood-covered cell phone to me and I try to contact the local ambulance dispatch as my phone is a piece of shit
> cops arrive a minute later, then firemen another minute, then ambulances 5 minutes later
> we get her mother on the phone but the authorities aren't hearing that shit and they tell us to move 300 ft away
> 3 Jaws of Life on that bitch but it takes another 10 minutes to get her out, a last scream of pain when they got started moving her and then dead silence after that

I figure it's worth green text and I have yet to try out Postmates. Coming from the girl we were able to help, it's been implied that the girl trapped inside actually survived but it was pretty fucking bad.
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>>40075627

This.

You pin tren, and if you're gonna get the cough, you taste something metallic probably before the needle even comes out. I used to pin in my restroom, if I tasted the metal, I'd run and dive into my bed with the needle still in my quad, lay there and brace for the impending doom.

It's a 30 second fit of feeling like you're coughing up organs, not very much fun when you get it severely, but after that it's completely over. There's no residual cough or whatever that sticks around, and it's definitely not something you can walk around with. Tren cough is pretty debilitating while it's happening, I can't imagine trying to walk around and do shit while enduring it.

People really think some dumb shit when it comes to tren, no understanding of it's sides at all. Just a bunch of fucking horror stories from people who've never touched it.
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Guys help me plan my next cycle out. Planning to run 700mg of tren A again but want to add mast P this time. I hear a 1:1 ratio is recommended but what the hell would a gram of mast do that half a gram wouldn't?

also would dropping the test from 250 to 125 be fine or would my dick stop working?
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>>40076191

700mg of mast was always the peak of what worked for me. Any more than that, the only enhanced effect I'd get was a swollen prostate making pissing nearly impossible. Would just dribble out pathetically.
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>>40074104

I bet your not even natty.

You do not look good at all, its just your skin.
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My ear/eustachian tube has been blocked for like 5 days since a had a bad cold or something for two weeks prior to that and it won't go away. Sooooo annoying and I don't really want to go to and ENT but I think I have to. /blog.
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>>40074104
You still here brah?? Still talking shit about me being /thicc/ while you are over here deformed as fuck??

Just kidding brah. You made good progress losing weight from skinnyfat (or just fat) but you really need to start eating clean at a surplus and work your delts and upper chest. You are nowhere close to natty limit, you look like you barely lift at all.
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>>40076202
Would you say its worth the extra hair loss and cash over, say, running 350mg of mast and just staying on tren an extra few weeks? Last time I tried it all my shit was Enth based so it was hard to judge what compound was doing what.
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>>40076154
> taste something metallic
> I'd run and dive into my bed with the needle still in my quad

You're a fucking idiot, m8.

Beyond that, I've had Tren cough before [likely from accidentally injecting into a vein], and it took time to attack and lasted far longer than 30 seconds. But yes, Tren cough is fucking terrible, it's like suffocation. Regardless, running with needles in you is retarded and the metallic taste is probably in your head or a result of diabetes.
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Sup fraud. Trying to get onto TRT (am in US reserves with prior active service, so they'll pay for my cruise doses for life) and want to ensure my test is as low as possible. Test will be Monday morning of next week.

Things that I have heard of and plan on doing include:
- 5 hours of sleep leading up to test, no sleep the night before.
- Licorice root
- Spearmint tea
- Beer the night before

Any other suggestions?

Thanks duders.

>>Inb4 let bimbo put it in yer butt
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>>40076362
why don't you just buy some dbol to shut down your natty test a month before? Its not like its expensive and literally everyone and their mother sells dbol.
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I do not use steroids because I am not a faggot.
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>>40076362
You should reschedule it because those things may not do shit for lowering your test depending on your regular levels. There's some SARM that supresses test like crazy so you could run that.
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>>40076382

I work in a lab and have tested myself in the low 40X's a couple times. I just need it to be a formal reading in the 300 range. If this doesn't work I'll grab some deca and try again in 6 months or so.

Thanks for the advice.
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>>40076394

There is some pretty good evidence to support the sleep deprivation and the licorice root. Lots of traps use it along with the tea to lower test before they can get on HRT.

Do you happen to know which SARMs?

Thank you so much for your advice, guys.
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>>40076211

l0l


>>40076237

>but you really need to start eating clean

1 meal that wasn't 100% clean in the last 4 months and I drank one time in that period.

I went out to a casino with muh dad and drank and then it was GG over I have no self control ate IIFYM

>surplus

WE GETTING LEAN HERE BOY CMON

I'm gonna be small for at least a few years, at least I can be lean.

>You are nowhere close to natty limit,

Lol you don't say?

>ou look like you barely lift at all.

This is legit not possible to achieve in less than a few years without steroids. You know this.

>>40076237

>You still here brah??

yeah I wanna be here to post my natty photos looking like this one day BTFO everyone
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man my acne looks so much worse in very harsh lighting.

and my chest is red like some roided up tanned douchebag

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>40076146
kek, just start pinning already

>>40076238
>worth the hairloss

never, nothing in life is worth hairloss.
dont believe girls, they do care wether or not you have a full head of hair.
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I injected into my quad, first time
Woke up in middle of the night to hellish pain
Still awake
Can't walk
Save me
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>>40076668

>hurr man what is PIP

why do ppl just fuck with their endocrine system without doing a modicum of research again
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>>40076692
why are you being an asshat
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>>40076692
Yolo generation. I don't understand why either.
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>>40076729

because steroids are either like, minimally bad for your health or can totally fuck you up depending on how much research you do and how careful you are

no one wants to see people hurt themselves

be careful
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>>40076692
??

at no point did he say he didn't know what pip was
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>>40075834
>they didn't tell me i should fast for a day before taking them. day before was my sister's birthday, we had a massive bbq. might have played a role kek
Lmao gross. I can only imagine shitting out a bunch of half digested meat hahaha. I was fasted when I started so just liquid. No big deal.
>>40076150
>a last scream of pain when they got started moving her and then dead silence after that
RIP in peas
You still natty?
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>>40076123
>more a gradual realisation on your part that it was an unhealthy relationship
how aptly worded. I mostly opt for the term cunt.
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Think i took a but too much armidex and crashed my estro... Anything I can do besides just waiting?

Heard someone say taking dbol might help but Im not so sure thats a thing
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>>40076809
kek
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If you were on for a while, how long after going off until your sex drive returns?
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>>40076985
Dbol will aromatize so yeah it can help, but that assumes you still have some active aromatase enzymes. If you've totally crashed it the only thing you can do is wait.
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>>40077011
Its not too bad, i just noticed the creaky joints and a bit of dick problems so its fairly mild... How much dbol are we talkig here, like 20mg for a couple days?
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How do i treat natty puberty gyno /fraud/? Please be very descriptive, because I'm not knowledgeable on the subject
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>>40077037
Raloxifene. Not guaranteed to work (had someone in here a few threads ago who used it to no avail), but your best option. You could also ask Missionary about how he got rid of it with Nolvadex.

Description:
>Get some pharma grade raloxifene.
>Take 60mg every day for at least 3 months.
>Post before/after pics in this thread for science.

Oh and try to be low body fat if possible. You might have lots of chest fat instead of or in addition to the gyno.
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>>40077009
Seriously I miss wanting to fuck girls
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>>40077070
I'm sub 12% and only have like a glandular tissue on one nipple and swelling and the start of adipose tissue on the other (plus it hurts like a bitch). Stupid question but can i buy that shit from a pharmacy or no?
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>>40077031
Yeah you could do that but honesty I would just wait it out.
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>>40077107
Maybe if you're in Eastern Europe or Asia otherwise no. Order it from an Indian pharmacy. I ordered 5g of ralox raws yesterday and I'll probably run it at 30mg ED and see if it helps maybe bump it to 60mg.
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I have a shoulder problem that doesn't seem to get better, or is but at a very slow rate. Judging from the pain and movements it's most likely a SLAP tear.
Has anyone had any experience on injury recovery on gear? I only recently learned that gear is basically a wolverine serum, especially the likes of deca due to their anti inflammatory and nitrogen retention properties.
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>>40077202
So i need a prescription to legally buy it? Can I just go to my gp and tell him to write me a prescription, or will he tell me to fuck off?
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>>40076745
Ok, I understand. I just limped out of bed to the shower, intense nausea, started seeing colors covering half my vision, most intense tinnitus of my life started

I obviously fucked up something. Does this sound like an infection, or is this really due to just injecting too fast and too recklessly?
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How log do i wait before getting bloods on a tren A cycle? Should be settled in less than a week, right?
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TLDR raws and brewing how into pls no ban
just a link dump or the like would help thanks


>>40074084
I have three questions

1. can someone explain the stuff going on in OP pic , science apparatus etc .

2. what is meant by "brewing" is there a noob guide , I'm curious to learn

3. Is price talk allowed ? I'd like to know what good prices are , and maybe some buying tips . Not asking for any sources just rough idea of what the smart move is .

Example I just came across a clear net site and price list with a oniion link and pgp key to go with it .

follows

.............................................................
Testosterone Enanthate
Testosterone Cypionate
Testosterone Propionate
Testosterone Base
Nolvadex
Clomid
10g: $37
100g: $297

Dianabol
Anadrol
Winstrol
10g: $47
100g: $397

Boldenone Undecylenate
Nandrolone Decanoate
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate
10g: $57
100g: $447

Trenbolone Acetate
Trenbolone Enanthate
Drostanolone Propionate
Drostanolone Enanthate
Mesterolone
Turinabol
10g: $117
100g: $997

Anavar
10g: $137
100g: $1,197

Methenolone Enanthate
Methenolone Acetate
10g: $447
100g: $2,597

.............................................................
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>>40077293

Sounds like a combination of infection and orthostatic hypotension.

Keep your eyes out for more infection symptoms
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>>40076191
Your dick wouldn't work
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>>40077037
Letrozole there is a gyno cycle somewhere on google breh
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>>40077416
the pis is brewing

brewing is making your own steroids

yes its allowed

also fraud ded
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>>40077416
Prices seem reasonable to me but I'm also not up to date on current homebrewing stuff so take that with a grain of salt. Reddit r/steroids wiki homebrewing section would be a good place to start.
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>>40077416
>Methenolone Acetate 100g: $2,597
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>>40077253
Well you need to be prescribed it but no doctor will since it's an off label use for ralox, that is unless you have breast cancer. So just order it from India.
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today's trap pump was insane. There was even some trap vein action

how was your pump today?
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>>40077416
Way overpriced. Test should be less than 1/g. Tren less than 6/g. Var less than 6/g. EQ is like 1/g.

Primo is probably a waste for most people.
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>>40078391
>how was your pump today?
atrocious, bp issues. also mirin
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Swollen

Glands

Cntrl F

>>40069122
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Since i have upped the dose to 500 mg test-e, I am tired af. Shall i split the dose into 2x 250mg? Will it help? Will i die?

>>40076420
LOL HAD ZERO TRAPS AS A NATTY. and you guiyz still believe i wasn't natty. Confirmed brain tumor that made you delusional

>>40078416
take coq10
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>>40078457
>take coq10
no it's actually too LOW. no idea how i've managed that.
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>>40078504
Too low? Take eq+tren + ec stack will fix it

mine is lower since this blast, which is odd. 122/70. Normally it would be in the 130-140 range.

WE CRAZY, WE LOW BP NOW
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>>40078391
do the leftover marks from the acne ever dissapear? 90% of the "acne" i have isnt even acne, its just leftovers and small black/red dots that look like acne but they are flat and you can feel them.

Fkn annoying desu this sht vanished on my face and chest over the years but it stayed on my back.
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>>40074104
Is this that gun for jaw gains guy
If so thanks, sucks it didnt work for you
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>>40078554
is coq10 the only thing you take for BP?

apart from cardio
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>>40078554
>Take eq+tren + ec stack will fix it
>this would mean running a six compound blast for me

kek nah i'll live, but thanks
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>>40074104
>mfw when im actually scared this guy will top me after 1 year of lifting
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>>40078391
Nice. Traps are looking joocy as fuck.

Looking forward to back and shoulders pump tonight at the gym. My chest pump looks/feels so nice doe. Bigger every day.
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>>40078572
Mine do. But these days I only ever get a few tiny pimples on my back if I havent washed my sheets in a week+, and don't sleep with a clean shirt on. One or two of the really big ones I popped/picked scar over but are hardly noticeable and they all go away eventually if you pop them and leave them alone after. I can't imagine it's different for you because of roids.
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>>40078643
dont be afraid.
he wont.
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>>40074104
Alex, buddy, you're awesome, and you're making great progress, but if you want to show off particular muscles please learn a proper pose so it doesn't look like you dislocated your shoulder, man.

For striation in delts see pic related
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>>40078739
why did you censor your fucking face which you showed trillion times.
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>>40078792
You mistook me for masT. Very easy to confuse us, I know, but I'm the 50+ lbs lighter and 4 inches shorter without any history of anabolics version. Don't worry, I think it's funny, he gets peeved.
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>>40078170 >fraud ded
:(
>>40078254 thanks I didn't notice that before will read

>>40078288
>>40078399

thanks friends

another price list
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>>40078572
Most people think that the acne is the worst part. The red spots will take months, maybe years to vanish. It's your skin recovering from the acne, which will last the longest.

The acne process is the worst kind

>>40078587
Currently bulking so no extra cardio apart from 20 min biking a day to my work. Pretty intensity cardio. When cutting i was doing also 40 min cardio after my workout.

I also walk 50 min in my break, but i don't know if that counts as cardio.

>>40078660
WE ELLE GENNE MAKE IT BREH
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>>40078877
>kg pricelist
WHATEVER IT TAKES
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>>40078885
Dude you look like a tumor cloud that wrapped with ropes.
mirin.
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LMAO NEVER AGAIN

Holy shit, this what mg-tier level acne

>>40078935
whatever it takes
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>>40078962
damn wtf you recovered pretty good from that breakout.
do you know what gave you such a hard breakout? thats much worse than i have
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>>40079098
PCT. That's the main reason i stay on now. I had it 2 times, really bad after my cycle.

On steroids i never have acne problems, not even with masteron. Masteron even did better for my skin, maybe due to lowering my e2

I am just lucky i have no scars. But the accutane was worst than the pct depression, never again
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>>40079189
Youre likenthe only one here that has good results with mast other than "ayy looked a bit leaner i guess"

How much test do u run with it?
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>>40079189
is accutance worse than high estro depressing bitch r9k feels?
before when people would warn me about "take care if your estro brah if it gets high you feel weird" but man oh man that shit was fucking nuts. I couldnt get through the day without feeling like crying and breaking down any second.

I think i got my acne breakout from the high estro, but then im also prone to acne even as a natty so...
If it doesnt get better im gonna try using stoyas method and see if it helps, scared of accutane because of the hair thinning and faggot feels
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>>40078877
I mean it's better. I'd go with PPL.
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If armidex doesn't actually get rid of the estrogen would my bloods always show way too much e2?
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5'11 160lbs
currently on 3500kcal,apperantly thats what i should be on if i want to up to atleast 180lbs
would i do better if i upped to 6000?
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>>40079214
Because masteron only shines at lower body fat. It's literally everywhere to be found on the internet. It's useless to use if you're fat

Currently on 500 mg + 80 mast-e. No need to run mast higher, imo. Not good for your hair and i look look the same at 500mg

Most pics i was on 40 mg masteron and 200mg test, cutting. I am a lot fuller now since i am on carbs that's for sure

I will never run mast higher than 80mg anymore, really useless.

>>40079247
That's my personal experience yes. Some people only get dry lips, no depression from accutane. I was just unlucky to get very depressed to the point i wanted to kill myself every day. Look it up on the internet, there are some cases were people actually killed themselves. And no, i hadn't any pre-existing depression because after i was off accutane all was fine again.

How much do you run atm? What is your ai amount? Controlling your e2 is the worst
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48 hours since I've eaten anything. About to fuck this bad boy up.
How should I cook it brehs?
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>tfw JM doesn't post anymore
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Doc did a blood test; turns out I got low T.....wat do?
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>>40079407
Boil it
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>>40079407
Pat meat dry with kitchen paper
Bit of oil in a pan
Season meat with salt and pepper
Wait til the pan is so hot, the oil is smoking
Place meat in pan for 30 seconds without moving it around for dat caramelisation
Do the same thing on the other side's
Take out of pan, place on foil
Wrap in foil
Place in preheated oven on whatever the equivalent of 180 degrees centigrade is for 45 minutes.
Fry onions in steak juices
Boil some potatoes
Eat
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>>40079466
How low?
Age?
Body fat %? (or height/weight/estimation if you don't know)
Time spent lifting?
Goals?
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>>40079309
are you like 4 feet or what is up with the big guys behind you
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>>40079497
Jesus Christ. I'm over here drinking a pound of spinach, kale, chard, and celery but that somehow still seems worse.
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>>40074084
Anyone have any experience with cruising on 150mg Test and 100mg Masteron? How'd it work out?
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>>40079407
Don't listen to any of these fucks, especially not jerry.

Go buy some HI pink sea salt and pepper, a fresh head of garlic, and a pack of farmer john thick cut bacon.

Salt the steak gingerly 30-45 mins beforehand. Add small amount of pepper. Let it sit.

In a big pan, cook half the bacon, and leave all the fat in the pan on medium heat.

Add garlic cloves for 1-2 min to the fat. You can even leave them in the outer shell for this so it doesn't burn.

If you want your steak super rare tender and delicious, crank up the heat to 11 at this point, wait 1 min until the grease just barely starts to smoke and stick your steak in that fatty garlic salty goodness for 30 seconds each side and wipe the edges until cooked.

Don't worry about it looking raw on the inside, it's totally sterile. Like steak tartare

If you want it more done than that, fry the steak on medium heat closer to 1.5 minutes a side. Touch it using the finger/palm scale till desired doneness.

Let the meat sit for 3-4 minutes after cooking it. If it's still rarer than you want it finish in the oven at 350 degrees (you fucking heathen)

t. 1 yr as a professional chef+culinary school for funsies, and steak aficionado.
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>>40079604
For kale smoothies do you cook it first?
I seriously need more fiber lol
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>be JM
>be working in an office, boss doesn't know I roid baka
>Boss is the man, 40k a year, company car
>One day I will be boss
>Smh
>Eating my chicken and rice in my dad's BMW that he gave me
>kek you don't have a rich dad
>BOOM
>Shots of alcohol after my sets at gym
>These triceps
>These biceps
>BOOM
>Mama phones me saying she wants me back baka
>Stalking her Facebook, my black queen, maybe she's seeing someone else
>Don't want to log into her Facebook because I don't want to go to jail
>Give me mires baka
>Going to red light district for a prostitute for tonight
>Doggy style, can't stop thinking about my lack queen baka
>BOOM
>baka
>baka
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>>40079654
>you fucking heathen
my nigga. a good vet should still be able to resuscitate that shit
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>>40079654
Oh my fucking God that sounds like culinary heaven!
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>>40079693
kill yourself immediately
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>>40079654

Gross my man
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>>40079664
I don't. I got a Vitamix and just jam it all in there with some frozen fruit and coconut water. Sometimes I'll add fresh ginger or mint to make it not taste so weird.
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>>40079597
lmfao
the treadmills are elevated or something, behind the wall theres like a step so you go higher up
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>>40079706
I just miss JM. And fuck 4chan for messing around with all the words.
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>>40079664
Boiling it for a few mins makes it safer to consume in larger quantities IIRC. Some people go nuts and use the water they boiled it in for something, but never did that.

Main thing you want to do is remove the main "stem" or "vein" of the kale leaf that runs vertically. So you have two "halves" (from either side of the center stem) and then the stem separated.

I didn't realize this and avoided kale a lot because of the disgusting texture of the blended stem and un-boiled leaves. This is also the reason I don't like to use pre-cut kale for smoothies (more time consuming to remove the center stem for each pre-cut piece).

But if you cope with the texture/taste of the stem it might be better for you nutritionally, idk. You should look into the benefits of boiling kale though. Don't get a lot of it in my diet anymore but when I was eating a lot of it I remember reading something about it.
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How do you make sure they test for estrogen properly in canada? Im on a buttload of tren and a doc telling me I have more e2 than a 16year old girl isnt helpful.
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>>40079713
Yeah Ive got a magic bullet. I dont have the calories for frozen fruit
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>>40079716
>manlet excuses
mhm. i'll accept it, then.

>>40079723
say baka one more damn time i double dare you
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Holy shit escorts in Prague are expensive, most are €300 for 1 hour. I thought Eastern Europe would be cheap but I guess I'd have to go to St Petersburg or some sketchy eastern European country.
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>>40079750
I didn't type that, I typed s.m.h. (what he used to say all the time) and they've changed it so it appears like that.
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>>40079752
They're not cheap in St. Petersburg, more expensive than Prague most likely. There is a lot of money in this city. Go to Ukraine or something.
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>>40079768
i know of the filters, i'm just being facetious desu senpai :^)

>>40079752
prague is the new amsterdam, of course they're gonna hike the prices
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>>40079788
When did the filters happen? And why?! I just made myself look like a total fuckwit, and I do that enough on an hourly basis, I don't need extra help from 4chan.
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>>40079696
>>40079704

It is. Look at that steak. Look how god damn juicy and delicious it is. Rare from a steakhouse ain't got shit on how this stuff melts in your mouth with a thin cut. Best steak I've ever had hands down was my home made ones. Even filet mignon from high end steak houses aren't done as well as my NY strips IMHO.

>>40079711
>he doesn't like the taste of raw meat melting on his tongue.
>I'll bet he doesn't even eat pussy, either.

Bitch. Don't you know cavemen were the most aesthetic and powerful humans on earth? GOTTA EAT LIKE THEM TO GET LIKE THEM, RIGHT BABE?
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>>40079382
currently on 500mg blast.

I have taken DIM and dropped AI to see if the DIM alone is enough to keep e2 in check, it didnt...so i ended up an acne filled, bloated, moon faced, emotional depressed piece of shit after 2 weeks. Like 3-4 days after popping AI (5mg ED btw) i felt so much better.

I got no more huge zits after that, but the shit from the last breakout is still there and its not going the fuck away. Been 2-3 weeks and it looks the same as before. Its also only my trap/shoulder area.

>>40079654
>eating meat
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>>40079824
My mouth is already watering.
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>>40079810
been a while. now we sound like weebs when without filters we sounded like niggers on twitter (s m h, t b h, f a m and so on), where's the difference
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>>40079810
You baka

>>40079824
>bing beta enough to eat pussy

>>40079739
Is it toxic?
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>>40079810
When the gook owner of 4chan decided to replace niggerspeak with weebspeak
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>>40079858
Ffs

>>40079873
Stop being so tsundere, senpai

>>40079886
Moots a gook?
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>>40079810
DESU senpai has been around for longer than baka.

I only noticed baka in this last year or so when jerry stopped saying it to bimbo and replaced sm.h with smdh.

But yeah, it's been like a year lol.
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>>40079901
I've been gone for too long.
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>>40079900
>Moots a gook?
nigger this place ain't moot-owned anymore
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>>40079900
>Moots a gook

Missionary, your newfriend is showing.

>>40079849

There's only slight things I've ever changed since figuring out this recipe to change minor details about the profile of the steak and its texture. Follow what I posted and you will not be disappointed if you love super rare steak.

>>40079873
>not tasting the deliciousness of pussy for protein gainz.

jerry pls, it's like drinking semen from your buddy but more hetero.
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>>40079924
>>40079934

>Citation needed
>Check Google
>Moot sold 4chan

Mfw

So much has happened in the few years I've been gone.
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>>40079769
Eh I'll probably just see if many girls use tinder or pick up some slut from a club who likes dat dere horsedick.
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>>40079949
remember: you can never leave.

also being gone for this long you're essentially a newfag again. lurk moar :^)
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>>40079934
Yeah, I'm Scottish so it's culturally unacceptable for me to cook, eat or appreciate amazing food, it all has to be boiled, bland and plain. With vodka or whisky. However that recipe is definitely getting done! Thanks for posting it
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>>40079967
come to romania. chicks are either bucktoothed gypsies or smoking hot, no in between. ugly gypsies 20 bucks a fuck, hot chicks a night of drinks (which totals you at about 80) KEK
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>>40079900
Smh baka

>>40079934
>i cant use THE masculine body part to please a woman
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>>40079971
lol you cunt
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>>40079975
haggis is top tier bulking food breh
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>>40080003
u wot m8 fite me irl ill hook ye in the gabba i sware on me mum

Not even same anon you're just fun to pester
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>>40080006
Muh nigga
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>>40080013
That sounds more Liverpudlian. The English talk too much shite before kicking off anyway.
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>>40079988
Fucking gypsies pissed me off much in Paris I doubt I'll ever go to Romania and be able to leave a freeman because I'd probably kill one of them. But yeah some Romanian girls are pretty hnnnhnghghjgg.
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>>40080023
yeah just memeing, my fake scottish accent is basically just sh-ing random sounds that's awful
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>>40080048
Whereabouts are you from?
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>>40080041
now imagine actually living here ffs. but yes if you're mildly wealthy and know where to look it's pussy galore
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>>40080057
US. the u wot m8 sentence literally IS a meme how long have you been gone.
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>>40080041
>has a sherlock fanart tumblr, only drinks moscow mules, does anal on the first date
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>>40079995
>pleasing a woman instead of using them for cardio and licking the protein gainz out of their vaginas.

Smdh jerrbear.
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>>40080061
I did quite well on the pussy front in Bucharest, so many fucking coffee shops though. I wanted to have one coffee in each one before I left but we ended up leaving and doing some historical tour of where the previous dictator was killed so I didn't get a chance.
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>>40080076
Oh yeah, I'm aware of the U wot m8. That's so old it should be bronzed. Inauguration day soon! Are you excited? I'm watching the whole thing live, it's on at 3pm tomorrow. I just want to see if he gets shot during.
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>>40079975
The Irish do SOME things better than the Scotts besides drinking and slamming heroin, senpai. My full blooded Irish grandpappy still sends me fresh alfalfa fed lamb from his farm. gonna see him before I leave on my euro trip next month.
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>>40080125
Aye, Guinness is another. Proper Irish Guinness though, not the pish they serve outside the emerald isle.
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>>40080142
I don't even bother drinking the shite they export. I'd rather stick to local brewed stouts or porters. Something like a founders breakfast stout is the closest thing I've gotten to the Guinness my dad brought back from his trip over there. The guinness here tastes like dogshit you can barely swallow in comparison. I have only ever thrown away one beer I bought instead of bucking up and gulping it and that beer was an American Guinness.
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What's considered bodybuilding doses of black/grey tops?

And what would you guys recommend I get, blacks or greys?
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Has anyone here tried albuterol instead of ephedrine on a cut? Couldnt find clen this time either, but I read that this albuterol is kinda like clen, I was thinking about trying it at 20mg/day.
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>>40079497
As much as I loved boiled steak and raw potatoes...
I decided to make beef and broccoli stir fry since I have been craving it.
>>40079541
Ya this is dope. I haven't made a pan sauce in forever.
>>40079654
Sounds amazing. Your pic is a bit too rare for me but I will definitely try this soon.
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>>40080193
I know, man. It's just awful. I don't know why they export such absolute dog piss under their own brand, surely they'd be ashamed of it
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>>40080112
nah
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>>40080101
bucharest is tourist fodder but kind of cool. you need to go once for the culture and another time for booze and boobies though, no fucking way to fit both into one vacation
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I finished my gundam Barbatos mobile armor. It's dumb. Also 325 incline for 3 today.

Have my roommates ass.
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>>40080215
Lower heat longer cook time, then. All you need to change. GL.

>>40080222

I've had 10.5% abv stouts and Russian imperials closer to 17% which tasted more like whiskey than a stout but were easier to swallow than Guinness here. Fuck it's a travesty.
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>>40080241
The girls in Bucharest were 10/10s compared to the "I took a bath in fake tan", "I'll suck you off for some fish and chips", "Spend half my giro on heroin" horse/dog hybrids we have here in Dundee.

I want to go to sibui at some point.
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>>40080208
2-6IU, black tops for lyfe mane
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Are the guineas export stuff we get in america close to the real stuff?
>tfw bar has nitro dry hopped old rasputin on tap
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>>40080336
I like old Rasputin more than chimay I don't even like beer
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>>40080294
Cannae beat a stiff single malt though. I barely drink anymore as I'm watching my calories, and I do daft shite when I'm drunk so it keeps me out of trouble, but occasionally I'll have a few stouts and some homebrew ale. Quality not quantity, in my opinion.
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>>40080306
lul'd like an idiot, never been to dundee but i know the type from my visits to the uk, they're not rare. and yeah sibui is sweet, more cultural than FUCK YES PARTY AYYY but you'll like it.
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>>40080336
Guinness exported is dogshit no matter where it's to. America doesn't have good guinness and likely never will. Think of it as the equivalent to mass exported American beer across the world, bud light, coors, etc.

Guinness export is the Irish equivalent to bud light, while theirs at home is like a nice, thick, hearty breakfast stout.
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>>40080336
>guineas
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>>40080351
Good man. I like your taste.

>>40080347
Modern times and Founders both have pretty good beer if you're looking for something similar to Rasputin. There's also some fuckin pirate sounding named stout that I fuckin loved which I got from total wine. Ima have to refill a growler of that if they still have it.
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>>40080390
I quit drinking
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>>40080320
People have seriously gotten results from 2iu a day? Seems a bit of a waste to me. Everyone's different though.

>>40080362
Yeah, I really like your culture, you're survivors, I admire that.

>>40080371
kek

>>40080390
Cheers pal, same to you
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>>40080282
That winter pale ness...
>>40080294
Ya definitely gonna try soon.
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>>40080390
>>40080347
>>40080336
www.fatheadsbeer.com/beer.html

this shit right here is my weakness
>>
Will low dose tren (150-200mg a week of acetate) tend to cause depression or other negative mental effects?
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You guys need to listen to marina and the diamonds
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>>40080412
well the lowest recommended dose is 2, one should ramp up asap but some respond well to 3 or so. I dunno.
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>>40080412
the only thing i need to survive is this cut i'm doing. one beer and i'd blow up like a fucking balloon
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>>40080412
>>40080445
2 is mostly anti-aging, sleep benefits, fat loss benefits, etc. Not a huge benefit to growth from it but naturally it's going to cause *some* however minute

probably gonna get some of the BT's myself and run 2 iu/day for a while just for the QoL benefit
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>>40080415
Now those are some knockers I'd spend some quality fucking time with

>>40080424
No, you'll be fine, mate

>>40080445
>>40080461

Oh, I see. I suppose that's like a "therapeutic dose" or whatever. I'm quite comfortable on a 5iu split, 2.5 in the a.m. and the other 2.5 in the p.m.
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>>40080461
exactly. but he did not specify what he needed it for. of course for leaving humanity behind anything less than 5 is a waste.
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>>40080418
>>40080412
THIS IS THE BEER I WAS LOOKING FOR. Thick as fucking cough syrup, tastes like a good malt and stout had a love child. I got pretty damn dizzy after drinking just one bottle.

In my defense I'm a small guy and it's a big bottle of 13% stout.

It's expensive, but great if you're looking for something new to try and are a whiskey/dark beer lover.
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>>40080521
14.5%* not 13
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>>40080521
"Great Basin". Sounds good, mate. I'll have a peek on Amazon and see if I can grab a few 6 packs of it
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>>40080521
Liteweight! Liteweight!
Aint nothin but a peanut
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>>40080551
I don't think it comes in 6 packs lol, and if it did you'll be pretty troubled putting back more than one or two. These are huge bottles, almost 2x as big as a regular beer. They're 22 oz's instead of 12 and I think come in singles
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>>40080142

Far aboots in Scotland are ye fae Missionary?
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>>40080521
had it, was underwhelmed. but it sure is tasty as fuck.
>>
Am off to bed, early start tomorrow, night guys.
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>>40080564
Scottish pal, we love a good alcoholic challenge

>>40080566
Dundee pal, yourself?
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>>40080587
Try putting down 2 of them down in an hour then. That's pretty close to drinking 10-12 regular beers. You'll have a fun time.
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>>40080614
My next cycle, kek. Scytale, short ester, 22oz til failure.

Will post results.

Night
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>>40080643
why does she look like a fridge on stilts in some selfies and like solid 8/10 in others? MAGIC
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>>40080661
>>40080643
Same question, also do not go to Pink Sugar.
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>>40080650
Can't wait.

If you can't get them let me know within a month and I'll pack a couple with me on my way to Europe. I could stop by any time after I get my motorcycle. I wanted to visit some ginger headed girls over by your side anyways.

I never realized how small Europe really is, an 8 hour road trip could put me from Paris to Munich in Germany... closer to half that time if I actually drive like regularly on my bike. It sounded like so much farther before I looked up the actual distances.
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>eat shitty food
>satisfied
>eat clean food
>never ending hunger

fuck off
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>>40080443
Implying I don't already.
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>>40080661
>>40080672
She's trying to impress me so I fuck her soon and we make up
>>40080792
She's great
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>>40078739

Always mirrin

I added delt isolation work into my routine today.

I have more volume than 3 IFBB pros put together at this point I think.

(spoiler- I did dislocate my shoulder, I'm double jointed, I can pop it in and out).

here's a better photo nat this is the best one I've taken

cheat pose, 2 inch from mirror, twisted to the side like a schoolgirl in a porno

But no one give me one single (you) with this pic. You saw my CBT post. ALl of the yous.

(you) is like a drug

>>40078643

I'm flattered moosey really buddy

>>40079654

my man. real men eat their meat raw, they don't cook out all the flavor.

>>40078714

all you can do is try your best anon

end of the day it doesn't really matter if you are dyel or what or anything or insertions, to me at least, just want to be able to say that I tried my hardest.

It is totally irrelevant if I don't match his body after 7.5 months, all I want is to make enough progress to say 'I tried as hard as I could' and people to look at the progress and know it is the TRUTH.

You don't need to look like moosey after one year to make that claim. You just need to have tried your best and show good progress.

If your progress is shit then it's proof you didn't try.
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>>40081188
good progress but learn some actual bb poses to show off. that looks just icky
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>>40081188
Wait so you're telling me that wasn't photoshopped?

You're crazy dood. That one looks way better than having a dislocated shoulder.

Still, doing great so far.

>>40081263
This DESU. Go on YouTube and look up poses for different muscle groups and how to do them. Doesn't have to be perfect, but it'll look a million times better than what you're doing.
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>>40081338

no dude that wasn't shopped.

I can pop my shoulder out of the socket at will ever since I could remember.

>>40081338
>>40081263

thanks guys.
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>>40081188
>try your hardest
>purposely do retarded ass routine with "more volume than 3 IFBB pros put together"... retarded enough on its own...but as natty?
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Anyone here know a rough estimate of how many inches I should expect to lose around my waist going from 15% bf to 8ish?
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>>40081423
I do 6-700 reps a night. That's exhausting. I doubt he's actually doing 2-3k reps daily.
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>>40081446
No way to tell, duder. Too many variables; cortisol, amount of androgen, insulin sensitivity, water retention, etc. this is such a "how long is a piece of string" question.
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>>40081423

Overtraining= Bad for gains.

I am currently not suffering overtraining symptoms at all since I cut the volume from 6 IFBB pros to 3 IFBB pros.

If I am not suffering overtraining am I really overtraining?

I asked this before but no one gave me a really straight answer, what I was told was

"Over training is bad"

I understand.

And also

"Past a certain point more volume will not lead to more progress you are wasting time idiot"

I understand.

But it's not a waste of time for me because

1. I like to lift.

2. I like to eat. More volume= higher TDEE= I can eat more food.

I really like to eat. You saw before pics.
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>>40081454

no bimbo, no I am not lol.
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>>40081470
you don't get symptoms because you are moving baby weight for 100 reps
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>>40081497

yeah exactly

so then logically if you move babyweight you can do more volume without experiencing symptoms.

I would expect a natty powerlifter that tries to deadlift 5pl8 for 1000 reps to I dunno, die? explode?
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>>40081454
Jesus Christ, man. I aim for closer to 200ish depending on the day at as heavy as I can do until I can barely push my warmup. I can't imagine volume training at 3x that, although I'd imagine you're pushing less weight it must still take like 3 hours a day.
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>>40081543
But then you're not focusing on linear progression and your routine is still objectively shitty. Just run a regular 4x6 program you autistic fucker.
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>>40081188
Yo I got my mastic. Stuff is addicting. Definitely a nice way to fidget without looking overly autistic. Have been throwing out used up pieces away at the end of the day, though I feel like they could keep being used indefinitely. Just a wild sensation coming from being a normal grocery store gum addict.

Hopefully will lead to some good digestion gains too. Jaw fatigue is interesting - not an experience I've had before. I don't really go "to failure" but just until I start feeling a sort of "pump" then I set the gum in a corner of my mouth for a while.

Anyways, just wanted to say thanks for the recommendation. Great progress btw.
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>>40081576
Oh but I was running into an issue where the piece just disintegrates into dust if I bite down onto it. Have been getting around it by chewing a piece of normal grocery store gum and then having the mastic dust congeal on it for a while until they find each other to make the nice mastic ball (the grocery store gum eventually disintegrates).

Ever had that issue and know how to solve?
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not him but

>>40081576
>digestion gains
negligible

>>40081615
>dust
supposed to. just freeze it beforehand and chew the shatters until they get gooey
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>>40074084
new to /fraud/, i just have a couple of questions

>where can I buy steroids
>what should I use
>how detrimental to my health will it be

thanks familia
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>>40081629
Thanks - will try freezing. I guess the digestion gains are only applicable if you have stomach ulcers caused by H. pylori (got the idea from amazon reviews lel).

>>40080415
Feeling any better?
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>>40081561

I like the volume desu.

There's a physcological feel good, where I feel in my head like if I spend more time and do more volume I will make more progress. I know this isn't reality, but endrophins? helps me feel happier.

>linear progression

So I am making some strength gains, because noob, while I eat like a bird. Weaker you are easier it is to get stronger, duh.

You can progress in strength like, no matter what if you have none and go to the gym.

I expect progress to be faster when I begin lean bulking as opposed to starving myself though.

I mean, of course.

I mean, it is possible to make progress with a shit routine.

Moosey never did a compound in his life and his progress in one year is absurd because supersets + volume + he just wanted it hard enough.

Mast never used a real routine.

>>40081615

lol. Dude, you gotta let it sit in your mouth for like 10 minutes, let it get a little soft, or it distregates into glass shards that just slice the fuck out of your tongue.

Sorry I should have mentioned this.

Is that what you mean by dust?

This is useful when cutting but yeah no.
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>>40081468
What do most people see?
Like, just on overall average, of course it'll differ greatly
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>>40081771
if volume and intensity go up, frequency must be lowered and vice versa. it somehow makes sense that if you do idiotic amounts of volume erryday as a natty, you need to push less weight. but still, WHATEVER IT TAKES
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>>40081804

>. it somehow makes sense that if you do idiotic amounts of volume erryday as a natty, you need to push less weight

Well here's my interpretation of that (keep in mind IQ of farm animal)

If you PHYSICALLY CANNOT push enough weight, then you NEED TO do idiotic amounts of volume.

Keep in mind pic related is ONE YEAR of doing 100,000 supersets of random shit

And yet I see CBT posters, say they've been training for 3 years lifting for 30 mins 3 times a week, and they don't look nearly that good. Not even nearly.

People on steroids that gain lots of lean mass powerlifting just don't count, of course, you will gain lean mass if you eat enough and have test levels of 3000 ng/l and just go to the gym and get good sleep and nutrition.

Inb4fuckingbrick posting photos, READ.

Granted those guys look better after 3 years than I do after 4 months of starving, but since when am I the standard?

This housewife was legit flexing on me the other day. Fucking A. Not lying either. Worst thing is she looked natty to me.

So I'll make it a goal to be bigger than every natty female. top kek.
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>>40081771
>or it distregates into glass shards that just slice the fuck out of your tongue
>Is that what you mean by dust?

Lol yes. Thanks for clarifying. I feel like if I knew about this as a child I wouldn't have needed braces (or as severe a correction through them). Like, my mouth and jaw just feel well worn and in a more natural "steady state" all the time now - very satisfying.
Btw, how long do you keep a piece in use for? At the end of the day it doesn't feel "spent" by any means, but it just feels hygienically correct to throw it out rather than keep it in a small tupperware until the morning.
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>>40081912
you literally said what I said in more words and with your trademark post formatting, good job. but yes. as a natty you need to do the math. no point in doing 900 reps a day when you'll implode two weeks in.
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>>40081960

3 days.

After use rinse it with cold water. Then wrap it in plastic wrap and put it in the fridge.

Bacteria likes warm temperatures. I dunno. I am not a scientist. Mastic has a very strong anti bacterial agent as is so it's fine.

I am mirrin willpower that you kept up with the mastic after the shards of glass that sliced the shit out of you.

I don't know if you care about my respect but that deserves it
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>>40079585

Free testosterone: 8.8 (normal range is: 4.3-30.4)
Total test: 420 (normal range is: 249-836)

I'm on the low end of the range. He recommends pinning test; he's a urologist.

Age: 28 yr old male
Bodyfat: 212 lbs (currently cutting, original weight was 230 lbs), BF estimate is >20%
Been seriously lifting since Oct 2016, still a newfag. Doing GSLP

Goals: dem aesthetics, hypertrophy, etc

Wanna cut to 180 lbs at least, that's my main short term goal

Currently on day 3 of 250mg of DNP
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>>40082004
Cool, might do this. Right now the pieces I'm chewing are kinda small, like a dime sized piece. But if I'm keeping them for 3 days I might build it up so it's really like a gumball by the end of the 3 days.

I'll take your respect - you're certainly a testament to strong willpower in your own way. I still think about that UWTI/DWTI scheme you described and have been testing a pretty simple algo of my own that I've been working on for bear/bull ETFs in general (but doing testing on gold bear/bull).

Did you use any particular software to back test your strategy or did you kinda just wing it? I'm testing my algo on paper (excel) by hand. Also, did you use software to do automated trades or did you place them manually? Apparently Interactive Brokers has a matlab API, and Robinhood has something that can be accessed to do autonomous trades too.
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>>40082067
Your test levels seem okay enough to do a natty cut down to sub 20 at the very least. Sub 15 would be ideal.

>He recommends pinning test
Well, that's a cool doc. Most docs wouldn't be on board with TRT at those levels. Is he going to give you a script?

There's obviously a greater risk of estro sides with a higher bf% but on TRT levels of like 125mg/week you might not get that effect. Did you get e2 tested in your baseline bloods? Would help show whether you are prone to high aromatase activity.

My advice is to keep cutting and come back when you're at your goal. If your doc gives you TRT go for it, you can stop it (if needed due to very frequent blood tests) if/when you want to blast.
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>>40082067
>being recommended pinning at 420
thug life, I had like 300something and he told me that's 'nuff
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>>40082075

Wing it. Manually. I simply do not trust any sort automated trading with REAL currency. Do you?

You will need to reballance you short/buy frequently.

The only thing I could see being of use is some sort of algorithm that would automatically place trades to ensure that you were shorting a proportional amount to your holdings, thus ensuring you make money. Simply put. No other way to describe that but ensuring you are making money.


If you are shorting X dollars of UWTI and Shorting X dollars of DWTI there is simply no possibility you will not make money.

The more volatile the index fund the better, in general, as that will counteract the negative interest required to short a leveraged ETF with a history of negative performance.

To be frank, I actually did not balance my stuff ideally, rather, often, I gambled that oil would move the way I wanted.

But it is so hard to lose when the deck is stacked in your favor.
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>>40082149
as much as i loathe you normally, you do make awful lots of sense given these kinds of topics. chapeau
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>>40082067
>>40082125
yea bros, he even asked if I wanted to pin some test that day, right after giving blood, before even seeing the results. Just to see how I feel for a week on it. And he's a legit doctor, in a hospital and everything.

>>40082125
Those were just results told to me over the phone. Me and him are gonna go over the results in person next week. Will know if he'll script me that day I guess. I'll ask about the e2 being tested in my baseline bloods.
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>>40082194

meant to also quote this lad
>>40082140
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>>40082194
>he even asked if I wanted to pin some test that day, right after giving blood, before even seeing the results. Just to see how I feel for a week on it
JELLY
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wassup. normie fag here

dont work out much
definitely dont take steroids
eat pizza and pasta all day. sometimes chocolate. love me some chocolate
6'0 190 lbs average as fuck nothing to brag about

3 days ago i started my first day at college after taking a few years off to do jack shit. yesterday i picked up easily one of the hottest girls in school

if youre taking steroids you gave massive mental health issues. im not trying to talk shit. im really just trying to point out you have some sort of .. problem
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>>40082149
>Do you?
Well, I can tune parameters of my algo to be more or less conservative. For example, one of the features of the algo is basically setting up trailing stop losses, and the level at which those stops are placed can affect the "risk" involved in letting the computer do the trading (at the cost of being less resilient against noise and meaningless volatility - thereby exiting prematurely).

But your point is taken. I would love to do the trades manually, my issue is that I am not able to be too too active with trading during the hours it counts (due to job - have found never to buy at the 9:30 open, algo works best starting at 11am). It is not the same as your plan to just short both stocks and come up green.

But now that I'm thinking about it, did you cover your short positions same-day? I might start testing your algorithm with some of the bear/bull ETFs out there. From what I recalled, there was something special about UWTI/DWTI that made it work so I never bothered testing it on ETFs on the big markets.
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>>40082236
Holy shit my life just turned around thank you for saving me. I also found Jesus while at it.
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My buddy who just hopped on has been asking me for advice. Sent a big long text about how to properly dose aromasin, the best place to pin, etc.

Thing is, I accidentally sent the message to the gf instead.

Big gulps, huh? Alright. Whelp, see ya later.
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>>40082236
Yeah but I'm bigger than so lmao
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>>40082269

its not like im small. im maybe a little above average. yeah youre probably bigger and stronger but. like im fucking hot bitches and eating cake off their asshole
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>>40082318
Yeah same tho >>40080643
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>>40082318
>implying you fuck hot women and your standards aren't as fucked as bimbo who thinks his 3 is a 10
>>40082324
just in time
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>>40082324

she's pretty hot. id hit that
post more pics
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>>40082333
Mirin jerrbears a 3/3
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>>40082258
gf moving in with me is the scariest part of our relationship

there's no way I can hide my shit from her while we live together.
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How terrible of an idea is lifting while my joints are FUCKED from crashed e2?
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>>40082324
but like i said if youre taking steroids you still have some body image issues
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>>40082236

>the assumption that EVERYONE that is bodybuilding MUST be doing so to get laid because that is the ONLY reason you would consider ever even stepping foot in a gym

You have bigger problems, the problem is that you judge other people for how they use their own time.

I also find it hard to believe that you aren't jealous of people with noteable physiques for you to even come here and shitpost that.

If you are jealous why not work to get one? You don't even need steroids. (Inb4 glands, yes yes, sandow is dyel, I think it's noteable)

Seems 100 times better than rationalizing your laziness and sloth.

>>40082239

>From what I recalled, there was something special about UWTI/DWTI

What was special was the volatility of oil. Look at all other big cap commodities, none of them are the same.

The dream is dead. Unless you can find one with consistent gargantuan swings. I cannot.

To be honest, I am growing less and less material. All I really want is to grow big. My money is in physical coins, that I collect, and just in some standard index funds to chill.

Past months even my business that I slaved so hard to build I have put minimal effort into. 20-30 hours a week.

But for me, I mean, to have a really, really, respectable physique, you gotta either

1. Get huge natty.

2. Get gargantuan on roids.

So the current goal is to get huge natty.

I've been informed left and right and up and down that it is not possible but I guess I will find out sooner or later.

The only real way I see to find out, is to just fucking try to do it. Or else I'm speculating.
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>>40082396
>second guy's face
gets me every time. kekus maximus
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>>40082396
i stopped at you telling me i have bigger problems

steroids arent good for you. this is like. common knowledge. people look good enough just working out without them. taking them comes from insecurity. there's no other reason to take steroids

by the way i look fine. im super average and im completely happy about it. i do cardio a few times every now and then and eat veggies n shit.

if i was going to compare myself to everyone bigger than me. well. there's always a bigger guy. even if i was just yoked out of my mind there's gunna be some 6'5 dude whos also yoked out of his noggin
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>>40082451
>steroids arent good for you. this is like. common knowledge
it's a good thing you didn't do any research

that would make it boring
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>>40082396
How old are you again? It's natural to get less and less material with age. For me it's a means to a very important end (financial independence).

I feel like I had slacked off on a lot of the research/learning I could have been doing just due to low T navel gazing. Just getting super obsessed about one thing or another for long stretches of time. Weaponized autism. Granted, doing so resulted in my understanding and love of the philosophy/spirituality that is the dearest thing in my life to this day, but I also wasted a ton of time on frivolous pursuits/worrying.

So I guess my material obsession with maximizing wealth is a way of making up for lost time (and to make not going to med school worth it lel). Getting to CHAD-ish test levels in a very short amount of time (through pinning) has definitely changed the way I think in a non-trivial way. Can't imagine what my life would be like if I thought this way from puberty. Definitely have a more "hustler" mindset that is not too caught up in all the "what-ifs" compared to when I was low T. Not saying you are low T btw. Just commenting on my own situation. You probably have really good natty T to retain the muscle you did on your suicide cut.
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>>40082451
>just working out without them. taking them comes from insecurity

Where does your shitposting come from then? A place of security?

(No).

>by the way i look fine.

I'm sure.

Do YOU think you look fine?
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>>40082479

..yes. lol thats why i said it

do YOU think you look fine?
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>>40082478

I am 21.

I dunno what my test levels are like. Sometimes I am super happy and driven and I have that chad minsdet, you know, that I like to have, everything always feels good, happy, just excited when you wake up, wanna fuck everything that walks, nothing gets to me, happy doing WHATEVER, and other times I don't feel so good.

I don't feel so good sometimes but when I don't feel good I try to stop being a little bitch.
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>>40082509
You sound like a typical human being
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>>40082491

NO.

But I am not on roids.

I don't think you think you look fine. Or you wouldn't be posting this crap. You come here to try and convince yourself that you're as good as other people.

That doesn't come from a place of security, you have like turbo insecurity
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>>40082523

i dont have to convince myself of anything. if i looked like crap i wouldnt have any success with women.. we all know this is true

why am i posting here. believe it or not im trying to help you guys. steroids arent healthy. this is HEALTH and fitness right?

btw you probably look fine

im out. goodluck
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>>40082523
>>40082568
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>>40082568
>not gonna post face
>not gonna post body
>not gonna post proof of ~THE HOTTEST GIRL IN SCHOOL~
ya you're doing great

also it hasn't been health and fitness in like, 3 years
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>>40082568

>im out. goodluck

You're not, you'll f5.

>. if i looked like crap i wouldnt have any success with women.

'No'

Lift weights, don't lift weights. No one is going to convince you to do anything other than yourself.
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>>40082602

mirrin single digit IQ
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>>40082627
:^)
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>>40080716
>Ginger headed girls
Psychologists can help you with that, mate! And yeah, Europe's great for road trips if you have enough money to support yourself as a back up incase you can't find a cash in hand job

>>40082269
Mirin

>>40082605
This.
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Anybody have suggestions for additional compound for the tail end of beginner test e 500/wk cycle. Also PCT for the experience or B+C
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>>40082802
Anavar
Winstrol
Dianabol
Blast and Cruise
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>>40082067
Your 28 years old, extremely overweight and are eating at a caloric deficit. Of course your testosterone levels aren't going to be optimal.
Fix your diet, cut down to <12% BF, get adequate sleep, train hard and eat at a slight caloric surplus. I guarantee your levels will increase 2-3 fold.

Pin test if you want to however don't trick yourself into believing you need to.
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>>40082802
Superdrol. 20mg/day pre workout. Start now and stop whenever the lethargy gets too much.
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everything has been tasting super fuckin salty for the past couple days. like, naturally salty food I enjoy is tasting 10x saltier (and I used to be the kind of guy who'd salt his already ridiculously salted fast food fries)

what'd I fuck up this time
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>>40082893
>when the advice is flawless

>>40082925
>when the advice is flawed

Well, that was a hell of a contrast.
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>>40082925
I am looking for minimal sides. Lethargy the main one to look out for on sdrol? Also is sdrol primarily for size, leanness, strength, etc?
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>>40082866
I don't like what I've read about winstrol in general. Dbol sounds good but I've seen most doing it at the beginning of a cycle. Anavar I am still a bit in the dark about. Seems like a lot of people run it but not many are very enthusiastic about it like other orals
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>>40082995
Yeah. I'm not a fan of Winstrol either. If you use Superdrol don't forget to take TUDCA because it's very harsh on the liver, and maybe get some taurine powder in for the god awful lower back cramps.
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>>40082658
>Psychologists can help you with that, mate!

Piss off, more qteurogingers for me.

>you have enough money to support yourself as a back up

Yeah I do. I'm also gonna try and get into the French porn industry through a rich as fuck friend I have who lives in France, so if that doesn't pan out for whatever reason and cash in hand jobs are sparse I'll be able to eat and move my motorcycle places at least on my backup.

I have LOTS of friends I keep in touch with who are looking forward to seeing me, albeit not all of them probably want me staying in their house some friends in Munich, Paris, and Italy, Spain, and Switzerland do which is why those 5 countries are the first 5 I'm visiting, lol.
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>>40081912
>This housewife was legit flexing on me the other day. Fucking A. Not lying either. Worst thing is she looked natty to me.

how many inches are your arms
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>>40082995
Actually, thinking about it, I take back what I said about Dbol. If you already have some gyno for any reason then I wouldn't. Also if you are not on an AI I wouldn't, I doubt you know how to control estro well enough.

You aren't going to gain much more muscle, may add a lot of water, and at that time its not good to have excess estrogen. It's mentally bad for a lot of people because they put on some water weight fast, then come off and immediately lose 10lbs and are just stopping test. It leaves most with a defeated feeling. Also it will raise estro, that's how it works, and you don't want elevated estro at a time that test is clearing. That typically results in gyno, and more of a crash because test is clearing and estro is elevated.

If you had more experience, knew how much of an AI you need on certain cycles, with test and dbol, how much you need in pct then it would be different. You can do what you want but I'm willing to bet at this point, 4-5 weeks worth of some mass, some water and extra estro, are not worth it in the end.

If you decide you are going to do it, I would do 30mg a day. But this all depends on your age, bf, etc because it will make a difference in the amount of aromatization. If you plan to add hcg prior to pct, that will increase estro as well, along with increasing test levels, but you haven't made it through one cycle or pct yet. As it's your first cycle I would see how you do with just test first.

In general it's not the best idea to use highly aromatizing compounds at the end of a cycle, that's not saying it can't or shouldn't be done, and not saying it can't be beneficial and add some decent size near the end. Personally I would do something like that on a longer cycle, maybe starting week 15-16 of a 20 week cycle to give yourself a nice boost, especially if you have reached a sticking point, but again that depends on the person because some lose their appetite, feel sluggish, have back pumps, others feel pretty good.
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>>40083162
>Gingers like pic related exist in Scotland

That sounds like an awesome plan, a true adventure! If you can stay hard and cum on demand then you'll do fine in the industry. The further east you go the easier it is to get cash in hand jobs. If you give me a list of the places you're 100% sure you're going to visit, I'll see if I have any friends that can possibly put you up for the night/sort you work. Loads of construction sites will give you a decent wad of cash for a day's work if you show up in the morning and ask.
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It's come to my attention that alcohol actually does somewhat treat narcolepsy and is likely why I can't shake my addiction to it. They do have a drug far superior to alcohol, sodium oxybate, but thanks to Oprah/regulations as it's the 'date rape drug'... it costs about $16,0000/mo. I'd be able to synthesize it myself if I didn't keep falling asleep. Perhaps with amphetamines I could function, but unfortunately, Obamacare has failed. They even told me I'm too poor for Obamacare and have to wait for my state to contact me. A month later; nothing. Basically, to anyone who supported Obama and assumed Obamacare did shit; I hope you choke to death on rape dick.

To anyone who supported Hilldog, an obvious alcoholic among other things, it's a bit difficult to say what I think of you. Basically; you're stupid animals that provide nothing to society, you voted for a smug bitch that gave speeches drunk [as if she was ever sober]... all because she wasn't Donald Trump, perhaps the only option in politics that gives a shit about this country. Basically, and I never say shit like this; you should be tortured to death. You are a hindrance on society and I'll stop there... fuck you pieces of shit who probably haven't worked hard a day in your life... etc.
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>>40083242

I am going to reserve the right to not answer that question

But uh, we all start somewhere.
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>>40083343
inb4 butthurt wall-text from Brick
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>>40083343
30mg of Adderall twice a day is a pretty solid treatment for narcolepsy, mate. If you can't get a script for it then ... get some under the table.
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>>40083343

And if you think it's the beer talking... I went 2 days without alcohol after drinking the equivalent of 30 beers a day. Today, the 3rd day, I've slept for 18 hours of it and I can barely stay awake not even getting into my life and the reasons I need to. Rather be a drunk than this shit, living deprived of sleep, sleeping with no refreshment.

Fucking doctors connected probes to my head and surveyed me on camera for 24 hours. Worst fucking day of my life. And they confirmed, without a doubt -- I'm a narcoleptic. Nobody believes an army of doctors, apparently, so I got a DNA test and again; narcoleptic. Still, zero sympathy, 4 months without medication now. And people wonder why anyone would vote for Donald J Trump.
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>>40083382

I can get a script, I have scripts for Vyvanse, I just can't afford the doctor or the drug currently. Vyvanse being the 'better Adderall' that costs $350/mo
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>>40083348
you post everything else, lift numbers, routine, even selfies, but won't post this?
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>>40083460
he's an emaciated manlet with no muscle mass

so probably around 12 inches

I'd hide those measurements too
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>>40083354
Can't wait

>>40083348
kek

>>40083418
So why aren't they helping you? Forgive my ignorance but I know next to nothing about how the American healthcare system works. I did watch "Sicko", a documentary on it all, which I found appalling, but that was mostly about the insurance.
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>tfw pinned gloots for the first time
not flexible at all, completely tore it up. started needle with an angle of 90 degrees, when finished, it was about 30 degrees to my body.

gonna need to start stretching again if i wanna do this.

so far, absolutely no pip tho.
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>>40083440
So you can't procure a box or two of adderall on the down low and just take it yourself? It is quite expensive though, over here it's £190 for 5 boxes of 30
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>>40083483
i have a friend like that except he's ~5'10, 115-120lbs, and 8-9 inch arms

if a housewife is flexing on him there's no way he's over 11 inches IMO
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>>40083523
Oh nooooo! I was worried the first time I pinned my glutes, because I did the 90 degree angle thing too when the needle was all the way in, and it DIDNT hurt, I barely felt it, and I was like "fuck, spots down to me"?! Because if I can't feel it I don't really know what's happening. It ached like fuck 2 days after the injection though.
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>>40083523
>when finished, it was about 30 degrees to my body.
>so far, absolutely no pip

I have bad news for future-you
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>>40083593
after i pulled it out the needle was really bend, glad it didn't break.
>>40083614
no don't say that. the incident happened yesterday
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>>40083649
Yeah, mine was too. Have a hot bath when it becomes unbearable, also have a spoonful of Turmeric powder (it's a type of spice) in half a litre of water and drink it down, it will help the pip a lot
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>>40083483

this

>>40083460

I don't even want to measure them dude

I don't know measurements or I would tell you
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>>40083714
I havent been catching up with what you've been posting (no offence, like), but are you already running doses of stuff or are you planning on it or ...?
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Is there any reason to stay natty?
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>>40083821
there never is
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>>40083821
Nope
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I ordered a few vials of test. Ready for first run but the oil looks really light. Is it suppose to?

Worried it might be fake or somethin. What should testosterone enanthate kook like? Is it dependent on carrier oil?(which is gso)
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>>40083803

I was a fat autistic dyel natty that mast and natt's advice turned into a hungry skeleton twig autistic dyel natty in 4 months

they tolerate me in the hopes that one day I will achieve a good physique and then they can say 'look what my advice did'

hopefully not gonna let them down
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>>40080443
>tfw lies used to be my pr song
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>>40083706
How the fuck does turmeric help pip
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>>40083894
There's lots of different types of oil they might use as a carrier so I wouldn't worry. I've seen practically translucent to deep, dark yellow and everything in between.

>>40083920
Cool, man. So you're doing well so far? What are you running or planning on running?
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>>40080643
>tfw this is 1 hour away from me
you are puyallup ?
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>>40084002
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/the-spice-that-stops-muscle-pain-in-its-tracks.html

Works for me every time with tren ace.
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>>40084016
This look fine?

I didn't know what to put it against
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>>40083894
gso test e looks like Apple juice kind of

there's almost no chance of it being fake desu, the cost in raws for a 10ml vial of 250mg/ml test E is less than two dollars. with everything else included, assuming wholesale production, less than three dollars per vial

really there's pretty much no risk as long as you ordered from a reputable source
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>>40084054
perfectly fine
the mtren im running right now looks like water but my source said he brewed in coconut oil extract which is very thin and clear
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>>40084074
Source says it's grapeseed oil

Guess it's tren I was looking at that's suppose to be dark af
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>>40084099
I find it funny that you're paranoid enough to doubt your source/think you might be getting bunk shit but your test is just to compare pictures on the internet, like the first thing they'd do isn't at least make it look like it's real
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>>40084016

Eh, I guess, there is progress, skeleton is better than fat in the body building community right? Still not exactly a physique though.

Everyone says MasT natty pics are bullshit and I wanna see how close I can get to them natty. So the next years of my life will be spent trying to do something natty, build a physique.

I haven't totally ruled out AAS use out of my life forever, but I have a lot of predispositions I have that are not exactly ideal, like receding hairline, acne problems, among others.

So that certainly complicates use for me in a big way.

If anything I will start pinning 1000% when I get old because the idea of spending decades making natty gains and then it withering is just fuck man, that's harsh, plus, low test life sounds horrid from what people here say.
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Do you guys live solo? I've been researching and planning hopping on for QoL and gainz.

Do you find living with others and roiding a problem?
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>>40084126
in 5-10 years would you rather be

1: a bald natty fag that no one can tell lifts
2: a bald juiced to the gills roider
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what are a good pair of fuckboy shoes to wear with the typical tight jeans setup?

would ask /fa/ but not in the mood to start looking at star wars and anime clothes
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>>40084054
What >>40084074 said, it looks totally fine.

>>40084126
Aye, I know what you mean about pinning when you get older. Have you considered accutane for the acne? A lot of labs sell it under the men's health sections
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>>40084163
what's "typical," jeans and a t-shirt? probably something basic like converse

if you're more fashionable than the average 16 year old, good leather shoes
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>>40084144
I have a roommate

he has never seen any of my vials or needles because I store that shit in my room and he has a no reason to come in my room. I hide all my shit in a drawer when I have a girl coming over

funny story though, he has never seen my steroids, but he thinks I roid because of a 4chan ban for "advertising" after plugging Capitalist
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>>40084149

PSO +Biotin +Saw palmetto the dream I believe fingers crossed.

Current goal is to try and see if I can match or if i cannot, how close I can get to moosey's one year photos.

Then it's going to be to see how close I can get to masT's 5 year.

I am not in a rush.

AAS use, no matter what I achieved on them, would make that goal impossible.

Different people different goals anon

>>40084163

fuckboy shoes would be like rainbow colored sneakers man, wear that. some rainbow colored nike basketball shoes

dress shoes look nice man I think.

i really do

looks classy bro. jeans and dress shoes like this

I don't know much about fashion but if it makes you happy and you like it and you think it looks good, good right?

dress how you wanna dress
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>>40084144
My 3 best mates and I all flat in a 5 bedroom house, it's not a problem because we all run steroids, the 5th room is our "communal" gym room, we all pitched in some cash and bought different bits and bobs over time when we could afford it. Also, because we live in one of the most violent towns in Scotland, the rents cheap as fuck!
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>>40084196

For acne right now I am changing sheets once a week and cut dairy out of my diet.

It has drastically reduced my acne. It's not at the point where I need to accutane anymore, but if I'm not careful, I get it really bad.

Dairy was I think what really made the difference.

If you have very very mild lactose intolerance, then it causes you to get acne, but you would never get diagnosed because it's mild
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>>40084242
LOL IS THAT HOW YOU WALK AROUND, JEANS AND DRESS SHOES WITH 9 INCH ARMS AND DISLOCATING YOUR SHOULDER

>>40084198
i don't know too much about fashion but just something that is "nice" in the realm of shoes. just like jeans vs sweat pants, i'm looking for "something" vs some stupid shit like sneakers
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>>40084242
do you also wear fedoras because they make you feel nice
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>>40084280

ur aware that like 99.5% of guys have zero muscle mass on their body? right? have you ever stepped outside? or even walked into the gym where 95% of guys have 0 muscle mass on their body?

If anything you guys stand out way more than I do.

What's wrong with jeans and dress shoes shit man
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>>40084263
Aye I switched to soy milk for the same reasons

Whos sorting a new thread then before this one gets bummed to fuck?
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>>40084280
well again, if your typical outfit is jeans and a t-shirt, and you want to mostly be casual then you probably don't want to go too far with the shoes. something like converse chucks or jack purcells

for nicer outfits/nicer venues, dress shoes. monkstraps, wingtips, etc

>>40084334
give me a minute
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>>40084328

why am I getting flamed for wearing actual shoes lamo

>imaging some roided up 250 lb olypmia contestant having a seziure over the thought of someone not wearring basketball shorts and a wifebeater and sneakers 24/7

can't make this shit up
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>>40084372
>>40084372
>>40084372
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>>40084357
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>>40084259
Sounds like a dream mate.
>>40084229
Yeah, that makes sense. I'm just apprehensive about starting I think. Your room, your stuff.

How obvious is roiding? At the start of last year I got real into learning about it and it was all I'd talk about. Do you guys hide your powerlevel?
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>>40081653

FUCK that image got me.
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>>40084163
black leather chelsea boots (ie ray williams / slp)
white low leather sneakers (ie adidas stan smiths / common projects archilles)
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