Reasons to stay natty? Post em

I'm 19 and still hope to grow past 5'11 king of Manlets anybody know this feel?

>>40069354
Sense of accomplishment.

You are a titan of industry making a billion dollars or more per year and have no time to work out

That's all I got

money

kids, sex and cancer

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You can get huge as a natty. Pic related. I'm already as big as a lot of roiders

1.5 years of SS

>>40069385
>1.5 years of SS

1.5 years = (3 sessions a week x 78 weeks)
234 sessions

5lbs per session for each lift
234 x 5 = 1170lbs gained per lift

brah are you telling me you press over 1,000lbs???

or are you telling me you didn't do SS, cause don't say you did SS when you didn't do SS

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>>40069385

>>40069413

Look at the size of his legs vs. his upper body. Of course he did SS. He just stopped progressing after 3-5 months.

If your okay with having small arms, small shoulders and a decent chest with huge legs that look like you roided for them

>>40069385
pic related

>>40069354
heart problem, digestive problems organs problems etc. Worse feeling in life is having your own body fail on you because of choices you consciously made.

>>40069354
Maybe not being a roided freak who depends wholly on access to exogenic synthetic hormones to even function as a man?

>>40069426
and he wasted a year making no progress when he could be squatting over 405 by now

>hur dur i studied comp sci for 2 years but i just kept learning binary instead of moving on

>>40069413
cringe, autism, >>>/reddit/, etc.

>>40069354
No hair loss, no gyno, no dick skin, no shrunken nuts, steroids are illegal

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>>40069354
>hairline already receding
>always had back acne
>low test, no erections, fapped once a week, etc
>sleep 10 hours a day. Always tired
>depressed since high school
>made very little gains lifting from 17-20
>no plans on having kids cause the world is hell
>realize I have absolutely nothing to lose running gear
>decide to suicide via steroids

On my 20th birthday decided to blast 500mg test and cruise 250 test for ever.

>4 months into roiding
>depression gone
>HUGE gains
>insane amounts of confidence
>anxiety gone
>got a car + license with zero drivers anxiety
>extrovert
>making new friends every week
>girls check me out and I just talk to him easily
>for the first time the world isn't so bad
>now I actually want to have kids, wife, big family
Oh the irony cause the gear will probably make me sterile. Worth it though. Fuck low test.

Never coming off. Testosterone is the nectar of the gods.

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I'm 20 and I feel like my body is already riddled with test so I don't feel the need. I understand it if you're over 40 though.

>>40069483
Wow. For a guy like you, getting on was definitely the right thing.

I don't plan on ever taking anything but it's a very clear winner vs an heroing

>>40069483
if you become sterile you can reverse the process

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>>40069385

this is how pepole that do strenght training look. Fuck this shit and fuck all powerlifting memes. I want to look like normal human not fucking minotaur or centaur.

>>40069385
Would nibble nips / 10

>>40069484

dem estrogen hips doe

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>>40069385

tt-thanks mr rippetoe

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>>40069385
pls be bait

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Passed 1/2/3/4. The people I know who roided then stopped look like shit now. I just want to look fit and symmetric

>>40069852

looks good, that's kinda my goal too

>>40069385

kek

I look better as a 2 month otter

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>>40069354
cant think of any

Former Abusers of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids Exhibit Decreased Testosterone Levels and Hypogonadal Symptoms Years after Cessation (2016, N=70 + 30 control)

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0161208

>>40069852
damn it's depressing being a natty

>>40070121
METHOD
This study had a cross-sectional case-control design and involved 37 current AAS abusers, 33 former AAS abusers (mean (95%CI) elapsed duration since AAS cessation: 2.5 (1.7; 3.7) years) and 30 healthy control participants. All participants were aged 18–50 years and were involved in recreational strength training. Reproductive hormones (FSH, LH, testosterone, inhibin B and anti-Müllerian hormone (AMH)) were measured using morning blood samples. Symptoms of hypogonadism (depressive symptoms, fatigue, decreased libido and erectile dysfunction) were recorded systematically.

>>40069354
is this achievable natty?

>>40070121
>>40070136
RESULTS
Former AAS abusers exhibited significantly lower median (25th –75th percentiles) total and free testosterone levels than control participants (total testosterone: 14.4 (11.9–17.7) nmol/l vs. 18.8 (16.6–22.0) nmol/l) (P < 0.01). Overall, 27.2% (13.3; 45.5) of former AAS abusers exhibited plasma total testosterone levels below the lower reference limit (12.1 nmol/l) whereas no control participants exhibited testosterone below this limit (P < 0.01). Gonadotropins were significantly suppressed, and inhibin B and AMH were significantly decreased in current AAS abusers compared with former AAS abusers and control participants (P < 0.01). The group of former AAS abusers had higher proportions of participants with depressive symptoms ((24.2%) (11.1; 42.2)), erectile dysfunction ((27.3%) (13.3; 45.6)) and decreased libido ((40.1%) (23.2; 57.0)) than the other two groups (trend analyses: P < 0.05).

>>40070121
>>40070136
>>40070142

Conclusions

Former AAS abusers exhibited significantly lower plasma testosterone levels and higher frequencies of symptoms suggestive of hypogonadism than healthy control participants years after AAS cessation. Current AAS abusers exhibited severely decreased AMH and inhibin B indicative of impaired spermatogenesis.

>>40070125
I am though. If I was on gear I'd be shredded.

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im natty, idk if this is considered good but im satisfied

>>40071718
You have weird insertions but idk maybe its the angle. You have reached greek statue mode. Good job.

>>40069484
I have seen your picture 3 fucking times today.

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summoning lotus senpai

>>40071718

>satisifed

that is why you will never beat that, because you think you look good

i look 10 times worse but no matter how good I look, I won't be happy. That's the mentality that leads to progress, natty, on roids, whatever.

>>40070034

dont compare yourself to the worst looking people and say 'i look better'

compare yourself to the BEST and say 'I look like nothing'

>>40069852
>just want to look fit

keep training then

>>40069484

u should cut my man

>>40069385

you might be bigger, but fat doesn't really count in terms of weight.

thank you for showing everyone what years of strength training natty gets you in terms of "physique"

>>40070121

if you use roids u should just never stop using them but cruise until you die

making ur chart irrelvant

>>40070087
>veins running all across his shins

wh-what?

Steroids CAN cause increase in bad cholesterol and a reduction in good cholesterol. This and acne are pretty much the only FACTS


yet to be proven but keeping me worried are....baldness, liver issues, fucked up estrogen levels, gyno, mood swings....

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I don't know if this anon still posts but he's my natty fitspiration

>>40072978
Not worried about what you think "looks fit". You claim to look 10x worse than another anon and I'd bet you're unwilling to post a pic. I look like that when I wake up without a pump my man, I'm happy

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>>40073371

> You claim to look 10x worse than another anon and I'd bet you're unwilling to post a pic.

Wrong.

>claim to look worse

Why would I lie on the internet faggot?

I look worse than you do too.

But I'm not so retarded to think a dyel physique is /fit/ or I made it or I did anything

you are nothing and you have an ego over it

and so defensive too

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>>40073874
Wong, Wy wud i lie ion the niterntet fag!!!

i look wortse thn u do 2
but imn not SO RETARDEd to THHINK a dyel physiuqe is ///fot/ or i madite it

u are NOTHING!!!!!

>>40073975

>hahah BTFO LOL A PICTURE OF U!

>>40071718
looking jucy
routine? height and weight?
how long liftin?

Jordan I know you're in here you fuckin fag.

>>40069483
Omfg, you're me but I'm not roiding yet.

Getting closer to the choice between suicide and roids.

Because you're delusional if you think roiding is worth it. You're a fitter than average young man. With minimum effort you can be healthy for life. Your metabolism can handle partying, boozing and shitty food better than most people. Live it up and just focus on becoming a fucking monster today with what nature gave you. Roids are for the weak, the vain, and those that take fitness too seriously and without living the lifestyle

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>>40069483
>>girls check me out and I just talk to him easily

>him

>>40074086
fuck you

>>40074086
>>40074146
also where you from asshole

>>40069483
>On my 20th birthday decided to blast 500mg test and cruise 250 test for ever.
>blast and cruise


you idiot

>>40071718
you dont look like....anything, really

you just have some abs

but if youre satisfied then good for you i suppose

>>40069357
About to turn 20. 5'11.5 in the morning, sure hope I make it past 6'. I was 5'10 at 17 so might still grow a little more

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pic related is ideal for slaying, even Zyzz and Jeff tier "aesthetic" roid physiques look "too big"

>>40074377
is this achievable natty?

>>40073874
Kinda sucks that you're so ugly because your body looks pretty good. Not sure what side you're on, though. You natty or no?

>>40074388
>implying the Irish go near asses big enough to hold an oil depot

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>>40074132
Kek

>>40069354
No cancer/ cardiac vascular diseases
No hairless
Stable bloodpressure
No acne
No shrunken balls
Getting erection without viagra off cycle
Harder muscle
Longer remaining gains and muscle memory
actual strength

>>40074364
How do I into delts like that?

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>>40074412
pic related
yep even that bloke is above the natty limit

>>40074412
train them and shit

>>40074410
Some of these are legit, but the last 3 are factually incorrect and there are many studies and anecdotal examples that show how stupid they are.

I personally have never experienced any of them, but I have very low blood pressure anyway and do my cardio diligently.

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>>40074410
>No cancer/ cardiac vascular diseases
cancer is only from hgh and it's associated compounds (and it isn't caused by it, it only accelerates cell growth), cardiovascular diseases only if you're already predisposed and aren't remotely careful
>No hairless
easily controllable with the right supplements/drugs
>Stable bloodpressure
easily controllable with the right supplements/drugs and/or doing cardio
>No acne
easily controllable with the right drugs/creams
>No shrunken balls
This is only temporary
>Getting erection without viagra off cycle
Only retards who don't PCT properly have this issue
>Harder muscle
Meme
>Longer remaining gains and muscle memory
Meme
>actual strength
Meme (and jfl if you think roids don't increase your "actual strength")

>>40074467
>cancer is only from hgh and it's associated compounds (and it isn't caused by it, it only accelerates cell growth), cardiovascular diseases only if you're already predisposed and aren't remotely careful

You seem to know more than medical science does..
See you in twenty years!!!

>>40073874
not-so-passive aggressive dude

>>40074666
Lel

How much does 3 month test cycle cost?

>>40074410
>hairless
Take finastride

>>40069357

5'6. 19. Haven't grown a LITERAL inch in 4 years.

>>40075583

Depends where you are from and what you are taking but like $30 - 50 /mo

>>40072978

Not all of us lift for looks brah...some of us do it because its all we have left.

>>40074666
Medical science doesn't know much either my fren

>>40074396

I'm 4 months from sedentary you lazy fucker

Why don't you actually train and put some effort it?

Sick of all the people that want to look like legit fucking twinks and think roids are required

>>40074364

Are you implying that physique is roids required or even comparable to zyzz and Jeff?

>>40075734
zyzz was a little twink bitch dude, especially for someone on juice he was tiny as fuck. I've said this thousands of times on here but I'll say it again, worshipping zyzz is a meme, he was autistic as fuck in social interactions and had no self control which is why he died at 22.

>>40074419

lol yep he's way above natty limit! That's why sandow BTFO him like 100 years ago with 0 knowlege of the sport and no scale to weigh his food!

>>40075745

I don't wanna judge people but I see people like MasT on so little roids and I respect that big time

And then u see zyzz's body on tren and shit and it's just lol

It's because real bodybuilders take steroids and eat chicken and rice and fish and oats and train really hard

And zyzz wannabes lift for 30 mins a day 3 times a week and drink and party party party and sleep 3 hours a day and take steroids to look good for girls

Look at Zyzz pics before he started roiding, he legit looks like me after 4 months

He don't care about bodybuilding just roiding to look passable

99.99% of the normie public will be instantly repulsed when they find out you're not natty. Case in point: Lance Armstrong is being treated worse for being not natty than Mel Gibson was treated for being a racist

>>40075791
The worst part about that is people don't even understand that he wasn't using outside chemicals to improve performance, just his own blood.

>>40075791
Fuck normies
If I ever hop on I will be a fake natty piece of shit
They dont deserve any better

>>40074364
lol that's not natty though
congrats on proving that you need to roid in order to look aesthetic

>>40072017
Is he natty??

>>40075777
How much is MassT on?

>>40069385
Nice. Now do for upper body what did you for your legs.

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>>40069385
Perfect!

>>40069357
GH will literally make you taller if your plates are still open.

>>40078208
Why isn't gh prescribed to short children?

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>>40069385

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>it's this discussion again

If you already have low test, then some Test is going to change your life (you propably don't have low test). However, 95% of /fit/ have no clue what roiding leads to and all the important aspects surrounding it. It's not some magic fix for getting women and suddenly enjoying a bountiful life of success. You actually give up a fuck-ton in your life for something that you most likely will value less when you get older.

>>40078300
it is prescribed to manlets who are 16 or above in the Netherlands I believe

>>40069354
Roughly how much does that dude weigh?

>>40072017
As cool of a guy lotus is, i dont think he is natty.

Cant get bloodwork in my state

>>40074467
>No hairless
>easily controllable with the right supplements/drugs
Not the guy you were responding to, but which drugs/supps are you talking about other than finasteride? (which CAN cause some serious fucking side effects)

because they're expensive

>>40069483
baaaaaaaaaaaaait

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>>40069354
If you can't be big natty, you can;t be big on steroids, you fucking blubber body

LOOK AT ME NATTY, already having the genetics. No steroids, just food and water

>>40078371
mother fucking thank you

>>40069483
>>low test
So you cured yourself out of being feminine.
Good job.

>>40078510
is PPL the way to go king masT?

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http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0161208

>>40075583

Depends what you wanna do.

Test E 300mg is around £40-50 per 10ml vial even from good sites.

you're injecting 1ml per week so you're spending around £100 on your test alone.

Then you have your PCT shit and AI's. which cost around £20 each.

On your first cycle its advisable to get bloodwork done pre-during-afer cycle also. Which costs around £50 a pop, maybe less if you know somewhere you can get it done cheaper/

you're talking around £200-250 for a full 3 month cycle. Not really that expensive desu and comes around to around £60-80 per month. Its also advisable to buy all of your drugs before hand.

>>40069484
Train lats and back.

>>40078510
not this shit again you inbred retard

I prefer my ventricles to not hypertrophy and continue having them beat, instead of irreparably killing my cardiac muscle cells.

It's your prerogative though.

>>40078208
>>40078300

For every inch of height it will literally cost you at least $2.5-3k.
Actual pharma GH probably even more. We got bbers literally throwing their ass around on camera doing g4p just to get a little bit of HGH dude

>>40078510
>muh natty mood

How many years has masT kept this bullshit up again?

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>>40078553
It's too late for you, suicide is the only way to release yourself from this misery that is called (you)

>>40078958
>>40078859
but you still mirin

HE MAD, HE MAD, BECAUSE GOD MAST,GOD MAST, IS THE BEST

>>40078402
160lb

>>40078510
>same body, except better lighting
>I was totally natty in one of these pictures

lmao

>>40079060
lol no one gives you attention anymore

>>40069483
>girls check me out and I just talk to him easily