Are cold showers a meme?

>>40047631
Yes

They make you feel good, like you're doing something better for yourself.

The problem is that "something better for yourself" has never been proven. Same with nofap, it's placebo central.

>>40047678
but the whole point of the word "placebo" is that sometimes stuff works because you expect it to work, just because it's working for a different reason than you think doesn't mean that it's not working.

>>40047692
You do not know what placebo means.

>>40047631
no

>>40047631
Helped my skin and hair so that's a no from me. It also gets me going in the mornings so that's a plus.

Cold showers are a more intense and complete experience of your body, similar to meditation. In a cold shower you also won't zone out so you'll be more focused afterwords.

>>40047678

No fap isn't just placebo, there are studies showing your test levels rising in the days following celibacy. It slowly rises until the 8th day when you're producing around 142% your normal test. But it plummets after the 8th day so you can definitely get results if you abstain in 8 day cycles.

>>40047631
Just before bed will help you sleep.

Depends on what you're expecting them to do.

>>40047757
Sustaining for 8 day cycles is not what nofap advocates.

>>40047800

I know, and those autists are just coasting on placebos but the actual act of not fapping/fucking definitely has physical results on your body.

Great for your skin, good for your mind

Anything else is bullshit though

>>40047812
Have you tried it?

>>40047823

8 day cycles yeah, it's when I get my best results.

>>40047757
That's crazy, so the ideal amount of fapping is literally just once a week? I feel like at that point my entire week would just be planned around that one fap, sounds extremely difficult.

>>40047757
sounds bullshit. Source?

>>40047842
Did you improve your lifts, brah? What other benefits? I may try it soon

>>40047851
Not that guy but I found this in r/steroids's FAQ: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241

>>40047851

I can't remember the article exactly that I read but this is similar, says 147% on the 7th day

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241?dopt=Abstract

Why do you think that first week of no fap is so hard, dick constantly hard etc and then the "flatline" that's your test going crazy

>>40047870

I just have more energy, can lift heavier/ go harder.

cold showers are 2014 material

want to kno the new fad? boiling showers

nothing wakes u up more

>>40047911
will I be more extroverted and get a gf? :)

>>40047935

I don't know, but naturally more test = lower inhibitions and more drive to put your dick in things so probably.

>>40047928

I'm not a lobster

>>40047928
is that good for the skin though?

>>40047928
that's whaaack

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>>40047928

>be me forever alone virgin

>start having showers at the absolute hottest I can handle without passing out

>start developing skin conditions like eczema

>girls start approaching me offering remedies and help

>develop relationships with them

>lose virginity, swimming in pussy

> tfw girls just wanting a guy they can fix wasn't a meme after all

>>40047997
>have eczema
>girls never approach me
fuck this shit

>>40047713
different guy here, that is what the placebo effect is

>>40047657
>>40047666
/fit/

>>40047942
That's not always a good thing

Higher test essentially equals lower standards which can bite you in the ass in the long run

>>40048980

but it means more gains which mean more quality in the long term.

the correct way to have a shower is;

> moderatly warm shower to get all the sweat and grim off you
> use your bodywash and shampoo and whatever products you want while turning the hot tap down
> by the time your done you should have the hot water off and be in a 100% cold shower.
> hop out and towel off feeling refreshed

>>40049027
t. James Bond

>>40048186

not hot enough

>>40049122
aware me james bonds shower habits.

>>40048980
>>40049003
Autism in it's purest concentrate

>>40049363
I shower lukewarm, it's genetic/allergies

And I guarantee it's 10x worse than whatever weakass dry skin shit you have

>tfw getting this mad over an ironic post

>>40049456

>tfw getting this mad over an ironic post

Literally though

>>40049456
fill bathtub with warm water. add 1/8th cup of bleach. then take a regular bath making sure to keep head above water

my cousins eczema cleared up pretty good, now he only gets it when its really cold and dry out

>>40049483
I did this when I was younger it only works for a short time

>>40047631
i take cold showers in the winter and its horrible. maybe in the summer its nice.

>>40047757
>>40047846
>That's crazy, so the ideal amount of fapping is literally just once a week?
No.There's no reason to limit or cycle your faps.
>>40047851
>sounds bullshit
it is.
>>40047910
>>40047911
>Why do you think that first week of no fap is so hard, dick constantly hard etc and then the "flatline" that's your test going crazy
No that's your dick telling you to use it or it's going to just stop. Literally use it or use it
>>40047942
>I don't know, but naturally more test = lower inhibitions and more drive to put your dick in things so probably.
No Fap doesn't give you more test.
>>40049003
>but it means more gains which mean more quality in the long term.
No. It doesn't.
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>http://urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>http://www.frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>http://m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>http://answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>https://www.healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

>>40049639
>No.There's no reason to limit or cycle your faps.
Ok so should I just fap 5 times a day like I want to? Fuck off retard, people are actually trying to improves their lives here, not just lie to themselves and rationalize.

>>40049686
>Ok so should I just fap 5 times a day like I want to?
Instead of pseudoscientifically demonizing it? yes. You'd be fine dipshit
>Fuck off retard, people are actually trying to improves their lives here, not just lie to themselves and rationalize.
>that level of projection
You're in a thread going on about nofap and cold showers. All everyone's doing ITT is memeing themselves

>>40049745
No instead of just doing it a reasonable amount like once a day
>I read an article questioning the evidence, better bet my entire wellbeing on it being magical unlimited free happiness!!
Don't reproduce, if you even can with that limp dick

>>40047631

nah theyre pretty good

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>>40049745
>fapping 5 times a day
>you'd be fine dipshit
At first I thought you were on a righteous one man crusade against this meme, but now I see you're truly on a higher meme.

>>40049892

>dude dont ever touch your dick its bad for you and will make you autistic

>>40049745
There's not a single solitary bit of evidence anywhere on the net that says heavy or even masturbation in general is good for men on any level.
Not any.
I want you to post a single scientific article backing your point of view.

Tons of stuff saying that if women don't have a shlick or a dicking they go outright bananas though.

>>40047910
>>40047911
>Jiang M, Xin J, Zou Q, Shen JW.

That study only applies to Chinese people, you fucking retards. That or it's Chinese propaganda designed to fuck up Western prostate. Either way, the numbers don't add up.

>>40049958
Why don't you post a single bit of scientific evidence claiming no-fap is good?

People like you are just as bad as Creationists. Evolutionists have all this scientific evidence showing it exists, yet maybe there's one or two small holes, and they use it to say WELP THOSE HOLES SHOW IT DOESN'T EXIST

Then when you ask for proof that creation happened, it's WELL DERE IS NO PROOF BUT ITS JUST FAITH XDDDD

>>40049958
Fapping reduces chances of prostate cancer

>>40049982
Been proven that excessive masturbation lowers a mans natural test levels to that of a castrate. They are in effect fapping themselves into being trannies.

It's been shown that masturbation increases estrogen production and shuts off androgen receptors.


It's been shown that porn and masturbation ruins your ability to be sexually attracted to real normal women.


Porn and masurbation induced ed and anorgasm.

Depression and anxiety from excessive masturbation is a real thing.

I can fucking go on.

Heavy masturbation, even moderate amounts of masturbation does indeed kill your gains. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either a porn shill, a steroid abusing fucktard who's test comes from a bottle and probably doesn't even have the ability to produce test naturally anymore, or one of those people who push masturbation as a way to lower birth rate(yes they exist)

>>40049958
>There's not a single solitary bit of evidence anywhere on the net that says heavy or even masturbation in general is good for men on any level. Not any.
>Not reading
>I want you to post a single scientific article backing your point of view.
I just did

>>40050035
>ask you to prove it with scientific evidence like you asked the guy to
>you respond with hearsay and "its been proven and shown" with no evidence

cool story

>>40049933
>not fapping for a seven days=autistic
>fapping five time a DAY=totally fine
I'm not even for no fap lol. I completely understand that their lack of real proof is annoying, but to say something like that ooooh mate. You know the reason this no fap cult was made because people had an addiction to it and wanted to overcome it. I have to admit I did try it out once and some of the things they said were true they did happen, but the bulk of it was retarded.
>women can smell when you don't fap
Like I said before the lack of actual scientific proof is annoying, but be more careful with saying stupid shit like that.

>>40049557
> why bother it will only come back again

Enjoy your defeatist attitude

>>40050035
>Been proven that excessive masturbation lowers a mans natural test levels to that of a castrate. They are in effect fapping themselves into being trannies. It's been shown that masturbation increases estrogen production and shuts off androgen receptors.
Neither of those have been proven or shown
>Porn and masurbation induced ed and anorgasm.
>http://www.smoa.jsexmed.org/article/S2050-1161(15)30057-X/abstract
>I can fucking go on.
You mean you can fucking meme
>Heavy masturbation, even moderate amounts of masturbation does indeed kill your gains.
It absolutely does not

>>40050055

Nice novel but I'm not that guy.

>>40049825
>Don't reproduce,
no u
>if you even can with that limp dick
Your oneitis wasn't saying my dick was limp last night.

>>40050092
>Neither of those have been proven or shown
Yes they fucking have.

>>Porn and masurbation induced ed and anorgasm.

>>http://www.smoa.jsexmed.org/article/S2050-1161(15)30057-X/abstract\
It's using mostly fucking self reported bullshit.
You might as well read fucking tea leaves.
And the ultimate answer of the article is "more porn makes men want to fuck more and turns men on"
Yes that's the fucking problem.Their overheightened sexuality is directly tied to excessive porn use.


>>I can fucking go on.
>You mean you can fucking meme
No I'm saying I can continue to give a list of the negative effects of excessive or even moderate masturbation. While you who is championing it can give nothing.

>>Heavy masturbation, even moderate amounts of masturbation does indeed kill your gains.
>It absolutely does not
It absolutely does.

Wow, nice great arguments in this thread. I thought this was supposed to be a bout fucking SHOWERS.

>>40050166
>attacks a guy for not posting scientific sources to back up his claims of masturbation not being a terrible thing
>posts scientific sources from legitimate scientific journals
>says that all the sources are just bs

>continues spamming his "DUHHH I SAY DIS SO ITS TRUE" with zero factual evidence to back it up besides "DURR WELL IT TOTALLY HAPPENED TO ME THEREFORE IT IS TRUE" which ironically is the same "self reported bullshit" he "debunks" the guy's scientific studies with

the face of complete, debilitating autism, /fit/. holy shit.

>>40050166
>Yes they fucking have.
Not have they not you can't come anywhere close to proving it
>No I'm saying I can continue to give a list of the negative effects of excessive or even moderate masturbation.
As I said, you mean you can fucking meme
>It absolutely does.
If you're going to continue to argue this you're absolutely retarded

>>40050199
Do you actually read those scientific studies and think or do you just have a big goddamned list of those things and just read the excerpts and nothing else?

Self reported, especially when it comes to this sort of thing, is fucking useless.

>>40050212
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17239879

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alonso_Fernandez-Guasti/publication/6536830_Relationship_between_Sexual_Satiety_and_Brain_Androgen_Receptors/links/54b6c2970cf2e68eb27f0321.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241

>>40050035
This man speaks the truth

>>40050273
And none of those shittily interpreted studies your going to bullshit prove your memes, proves any of
>excessive masturbation lowers a mans natural test levels to that of a castrate. They are in effect fapping themselves into being trannies. It's been shown that masturbation increases estrogen production and shuts off androgen receptors.
>>40050295
>This man speaks the truth
He's speaking pseudoscientific memes

>>40050327
No, stupid.
That's actual science.

There is actual science in those posts. And that's just the stuff that's constantly posted when idiots like you leap out of the woodwork.

I'm surprised you didn't post that piece of shit study dealing with old men with ED that people constantly post as a way to say "AHA LACK OF MASTURBATION LOWERS TESTOSTERONE!!".

>>40050191
>Implying this thread wasn't going to be about about memes from the time it was posted with a question like OP's

>>40050355
>No, stupid. That's actual science.
>There is actual science in those posts.
That again don't prove what you said. Especially when your so desperately trying to shill your no fap meme that you start saying things will happen when you fap that don't

>>40049639
>literally every thread about nofap this autist posts his copy pasta about how jerking it makes you a better person

>>40050384
I'm not shilling anything.
Go read the fucking studies.
There is nothing to interpret.
There is just cold logical fact.

If you, who is so desperate to push men to masturbate to excess and completely castrate themselves and, for the poor unfortunate cut men, hasten the deadening of their bell ends, want to think otherwise then go for it.

But don't sit there and LIE and say that it's perfectly healthy when it's been proven to be everything but healthy and even detrimental.

>>40047713
He's right, the point of ruling out placebo in a control is because the effects may not be intrinsically linked to the mediation itself, but a result of the body compensating due to the effect.

>>40050355

ironic post considering nofap actually causes ed

>>40050441
Proof?

To answer your question, OP, i started having cold showers because i used to have bad eczema and wasn't able to manage it with prescription creams.

After switching to cold showers, my eczema has almost entirely disappeared without medication, however the change could also be due to:
- Shorter length of time in shower (cold is uncomfortable)
- Using a gentler soap (however i changed to the gentle soap well before changing to cold showers)
- Less stress in life/work (although i do sometimes have stressful periods).

I can't say whether it's had any of the quasi-magical effects cold shower memers declaim, except maybe feeling a bit more energised after showers.

>>40050397
>literally every thread about noap there are multiple threads about no fap, going on about the same bullshit and retards like you who can't read
>>40050412
>I'm not shilling anything.
>>40047757
>>40049686
>>40050035
>Go read the fucking studies.
>There is nothing to interpret.
Then where did you get this from
>Been proven that excessive masturbation lowers a mans natural test levels to that of a castrate. They are in effect fapping themselves into being trannies. It's been shown that masturbation increases estrogen production and shuts off androgen receptors,
and why are you posting thje studies you are as if they actually prove what you said and that fapping's bad for you
>There is just cold logical fact.
Which what you posted isn't
>But don't sit there and LIE
>this level of projection
>and say that it's perfectly healthy when it's been proven to be everything but healthy and even detrimental.
I'll say it alI I want because it's been conclusively proven over and over again and no amount of memeing will prove otherwise.
>>40050446
>>40049639

>>40050476
Oh goddamnit.
You're that goddamned retard who keeps posting that shit over and over again.

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>tfw have a working penis
>tfw will fap multiple times a day for hours because it feels good and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

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>>40047631
maybe its all a fucking preference thing and you guys should do what works for you

>>40049958
Fapping in general is beneficial, obviously doing i obsessively is not good but every once in awhile is good to reduce the risk of prostate cancer and clear blockage and relive stress

>>40050749
>Fapping in general is beneficial
It's not. It's just not going to kill you.

>once in awhile is good to reduce the risk of prostate cancer
It doesn't.
>and clear blockage
We remove excess semen in numerous ways throughout the day.
>relive stress
Exercise, games, fighting, meditation, doing something/achieving something, fucking an ugly-average chick half to death while trying to worm my way into the heart of DA ONE, then chilling out and getting handsy and grindy with the lezbro.
That is how men relieve stress.

So.. Are cold showers good or nah

>>40047666
Don't listen to satan

Fapping to porn is bad, ok.
But what if you fap to pictures your girlfriend sends you?

>>40050790
It doesn't matter. Even if they are "good," it's so minor as to be almost nugatory--like most of the shit /fit/ dwells on for years, it's immaterial.

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>>40050790
Cold showers are excellent

>>40049639
God damn it, it's this guy again.

>>40047631

http://www.naturally-boost-testosterone.com/do-cold-showers-increase-testosterone/

The science behind it is easy. We don't believe it magically increases your test through the power of manliness.

It's just that taking a hot shower is pretty much frying your balls

frying your balls => lower test

not frying your balls => test not lower ("higher")

>>40047631
Yes.

Cold baths work for fat burning though.

>>40047631
Nah

>>40051173
i take cold baths sometimes...

I'm the guy who posted the original 8 day no fap thing, sincerely sorry I got your thread absolutely shitposted OP

yes it works! try it for urself, but work ur way up gradually. cold exposure also helps with recovery with muscles and the CNS.
nofap also works, dont listen to the fat jewcucks of fit who think cal in out and dirty bulking is legit. they are srsly retarded. and will shitpost ot discredit anything that doesnt have big pharma's fake scientific approval.

if you really want to better urself through cold exposure, look up wim hoff. guy has like 26 world records, including climbing mt kilimanjaro in shorts

I cant I just can't I tried but I can't
How can I live without my boiling hot showers

My skin is shitty and like leather but I just can't switch to cold

>>40047997
>getting eczema voluntarally
retard, ive been in this shit for 18 years constantly battling this shit and never getting rid of it. This is hell

>>40049639
you need help, i god damn mean it.

>>40051478
it gets easier dude just like everything else

>>40051478
do it gradually. start warm then go lower and lower and lower. next day stay inside the cold longer. do it EVERYDAY. always finish with cold

>>40050494
And your the goddamned retard that apparently still can't read
>>40050782
>It's not. It's just not going to kill you.
>It doesn't
>>40049639
>still not reading

>>40051562
And you're retarded, I god damn mean it

>>40050476
You make me feel ashamed of using green arrows.

>>40049027

Absolutely patrician tier. /thread

Meme or not, they wake me up after a long sauna sesh. They're alright with me.

>>40047678
>>40047692
You fucking autists go look up the cold shock response, cold shock therapy is an alternative to medicine for depression

Don't forget to confuse your muscles on the 8th day of your nofap, I got roid-like gains within a week with this one simple trick