/Fraud/ - Sterons, autism, and blogposts, oh my!

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wrong

>>40009118
O yea masT too.

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forgot trips
>>40009123
so the meme is never gonna be finished huh ? did you never get time to figure it out or fix it ?

Convince me not to do gear m8s.
I don't even plan on doing it for a long time, just want to do it for about 1 month total so I can get swole fast and steal some dude's girl. After that I really don't care about going beyond natty.

I'd do it natty but I'm lazy and don't want to wait that long.

Eh she cared about me spent s fuck ton of money that she doesn't really have on me for the holidays m, we've been dating since I was a senior in high school and she was a sophomore. She even came to the same college as me this year, guess seeing those needles set her off which is fucking stupid but oh well.

>>40009147
I tried, but lightworks is fucking me in the ass every time I try to fix it. It doesn't move the picture properly even when I adjust it for every frame and idk why. I'm just not a good enough memer, man.

>>40009196
shame shame oh well.
https://giphy.com/create/gifmaker

try this

>>40009166
nice b8, 7/10

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>>40009166
i want you to fuck off and never come back.

>>40009203
It's not about making a gif, I already have the compressed video of it in gif form already. It's about superimposing multiple images on said gif and having scrolling text run through the whole thing that isn't working.

I can get one image put on it, I can even get two, but I can't get those images to move correctly for whatever reason because lightworks renders it in a weird way when I finish adjusting it. It just doesn't want to move the pic from its original position even when I manually save and redo every single frame, which is tedious as fuck and I shouldn't have to do anyways.

>>40009236
yeah my bad im lazy as fuck as usual.

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>>40009247
I tried, man. I tried so hard.

>>40009181
you better at least be aesthetic

from a normie perspective steroids are worse than heroin

grandpa, kinda yeah kinda not.

I have heavily reduced my acne and it looks a lot better now. But im still getting zits popping up all the time, just much less.

>>40009372
how many mg ? and glad its working, are you still on asin with it or without ?

>>40009233
>>40009224
You think I'm baiting but I'm 100% legit on this. The guy did far worse to me first, and I want petty revenge.

>>40009389
cum in his eyes then

>>40009389
and you think steroids are gonna do jack for that? get a gun faggot, slice his tires, rape his mother.

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> lawn mowers account for 20% of hydrocarbon emissions and 5% of all pollution
> spills per year while refueling lawn mowers is worse than the Exxon Valdez

Just some fun facts to troll liberals with. Nuclear or fuck off as always.

Training natty is killing me inside. No gains, slow gains, shitty hormonal cycles due to cut/bulk cycles. Should I just hop on the juicy juice?

>>40009458
But then I don't get the satisfaction of watching him slowly realize that I'm a better version of him.
I've already stolen his job, got better grades than him, became more popular than him among his friends. Now's he's trying to get swole, so I need to be swoler, and do so before him. Then I take his girl, and my justice will be complete.
All for revenge.

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>>40009389
>petty revenge
That's the best kind.

>>40009494
>natty
>cut/bulk cycles

Well there's your problem, anon. You fell for the memes.

>>40009506
>1month

thats all i needed to hear to declare you as a faggot troll.

and now go back to 9gag

>>40009382
500mg, just like you said.
Defo with asin. I got bloated af, itchy nips and biggest fucking faggot r9k feels you can imagine with DIM alone.

>>40009553
>1month
>nowhere in the quoted post
?

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>>40009559
8/10 made me reply more than 2 times

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>>40009166

They found a link between heart disease/atherosclerosis and white blood cell count. Steroids, or at least Tren, typically elevate your WBCs. It is apparently the mechanism of how stress kills you. Current working draft is...

> High SHBG and natty Test levels == reduced WBC count == healthy arteries.
> stress == increased WBC == reduced natty Test production

Then there's the whole ripping a shaky needle through your flesh and veins constantly, causing damage and infection, to inject some canola oil+alcohols that likely includes 2% arsenic and piss. You'd probably be plenty attractive to females by just taking 10 mg anavar+50 mg clomid and working out. This would not shut down your endocrine system.

Also, Clomid is actually good for you. Like undercooked vegetables. Perhaps this is why bitches live longer.

So where do I start? I know it's spoonfeeding but would appreciate a solid starting platform to research what being a fraud entails. If I decide it's for me, I would like to whole ass it...not half ass and fuck it up.

>>40009553
well tell me if you find a another bulk supplier that sells it for cheaper becuase i love the stuff. thanks for the feed back it helps with building my supplment stack.

>>40009594
>Also, Clomid is actually good for you

I was mulling over Clomid/Deca for trt, thoughts?

>>40009594
http://www.ergo-log.com/dhea-supplementation-lowers-cortisol-levels.html

wanna blunt coritzol to preserve your heart gotcha senpai.

interesting studies

>>40009661
That's always been the case, so just mega dose 500-1000mg vit c every 2 hours.

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>>40009638
> Clomid/Deca

Absolute mad man. Probably a bad idea.

>>40009661

That is interesting. If you want to blunt cortisol you can take the abortion drug Mifepristone. Should help with building muscle.

Ergo-log is good stuff. They, in reply to Gearhead, have plenty of articles on how Deca/Nandrolone causes heart disease.

>>40009724
mega dosing vitamin C is that the biggest meme in the health industry or is it like creatine and half true since some respond better with it than others ?

>>40009594
Thanks for the info. How'd you come across this stuff anyways?

>>40009743
welcome to /fraud/

ignore any kind of science-like posting by mossad

>>40009336
Nah I'm the guy that eats Taco Bell and has a shit diet. But I didn't see how she could be this upset over it.

>>40009738
Yes and no. Immunity wise, it doesn't prevent any disease just shortens the span of which you're actually sick when you've contracted certain illnesses.

Mega dosing vit c doesn't work as it is water soluble, hence dosing every couple of hours.

>>40009765
He already said how, normies look at steroids worse than or as bad as heroin and meth until informed otherwise. Needles = scary.

If you discovered your gf was a casual crack whore selling her body to dudes for more rock to slam, would you still want to be with her?

>>40009728
I already read the study on it causing buildup of collagen products in the heart; the dose was the equivalent of ~450mg per week for a 200lb male. I figure 100mg at ~170lbs would carry rather less risk.

first time trying cialis boys

let's see what happens

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> craving Pizza Hut consistently for months
> have only been there maybe 6 times in my entire life
> would probably spend my paycheck there if black slave didn't hate it and I'm frugal as fuck

They started putting shit in that shit; sure of it.

> signed up for Post Mates
> like Uber for people without nice cars, get paid to shop for people, deliver pizzas
> $2.50 per delivery, $1/mile, $0.10/minute while shopping/waiting
> guaranteed $13/hour during rush hour (2 hours)

Only available in places where there is no parking.


>>40009738
> megadosing vitamin C
> health industry

>>40009743
>>40009758

The one was from the Drudge Report. My research didn't touch on the immune system much.

>>40009796

Not sure if you're thinking the Nandrolone+Clomid won't shut you down or the Clomid will counter your deficiency of Testosterone. Imagine you've read up on it.

>>40009594
>You'd probably be plenty attractive to females by just taking 10 mg anavar+50 mg clomid and working out. This would not shut down your endocrine system.

cringed at the thought of how many dyels copy/pasted this to notepad for their next oral cycle

>>40009835
I was just spitballing it; I figure Clomid would keep me online enough to be fine while the Nandrolone would cover gains/quality of life. I would be taking some Pregnenolone in the evenings as well.

>>40009854
I'll admit I wasn't paying attention and thought until I reread
>10 mg anavar
Better off natty than taking such a low dose of an already weak drug

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>>40009835
> Post Mates continued
> now get to deduct my Jeep from taxes including gas, repairs, and parts
> technically supposed to figure out percentage of personal use but IRS can't prove shit
> don't even have to use it but ultimately, again, the IRS can't or won't bother to prove shit
> going to have black slave deduct it too, chances of us both getting audited at the same time is 1-in-a-billion

The DNA test actually said I'm 99.9% White. Not a shred of Jew. Literally all from Northwestern Europe. As a national socialist, I was feeling all kinds of feels including excitement and disappointment.

>>40009854
>>40009955

It's not bait. 7 mg of Anavar was found to basically prevent muscle loss in burn victims who typically lose... offhand, about 10 lbs of muscle over a few months.

>>40009986
>tfw no Anavar fruity pebbles to keep me healthy.

why live

>>40009986
Wouldn't that then mean Anavar should be taken as part of a more extended PCT in order to keep gains more efficiently?

Also
>black slave

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>>40010054

Yep, I've done it and had full natty production after 4 weeks. In fact, the Clomid gave me high-test. Probably the best 4 weeks of my recent life but I suspect there were other factors like donating blood and eating 20 lbs of mussels just prior.

Of course results may vary.

>>40009600
reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki

To anyone seeking to lower Cortisol while natty, phosphatidylserine is HIGHLY recommended. Have personal experience with it.

Try and find something that is 60% and take 500mg/week for at least two weeks and I'll bet you feel better (if you have elevated Cortisol, which you likely do if you're low test).

Probably beats taking abortion drugs and by the looks of it is better than whatever effects you get from DHEA (which I imagine is just a very small percentage of DHEA making it down to the testosterone conversion stage and then inhibiting cortisol production at the adrenals just a little bit more than normal).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2503954/

Google this shit. Am still taking it now that I'm cruising on self administered TRT. Studies showing neuroprotective effects are pretty fascinating.

>>40010175
*500mg/day for at least two weeks, fuck.

>>40010175
i bet thats muscle sparing and test boosting like a motherfucker

keep me posted

What do you guys think of the idea of vacationing in Thailand for a summer to make gains?
>tons of legal steroids
>tons of personal trainers and gyms
>tons of qt hookers and ladyboy traps to fuck

Alright so since she broke up with me for the gear should I still start the blast I was planning on running guys? And just focus all my time into school and working out maybe try tinder out

>>40010251
get tren, start college and get mad pussy from the smell of you anti-beta-ness

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> Uber's CEO is on Trump's advisory board but everyone I know uses gay-ass Lyft

> they released a game that is basically The Walking Dead including building your own settlement in the zombie apocalypse
> State of Decay, it was released in 2013

> used to live in Raleigh back when I was a hacker making benjamins
> area where I used to live, in only 4 years, has changed completely, replaced with expensive apartments, hipster bars, sushi restaurants, vegan coffee bars, ...
> wanted to stay there as I knew Raleigh was a great investment but shit happened

Feelin feels. #WarOfNorthernAgression

>>40010175

Will do but that shit's expensive.

I believe it's also used to treat ADHD along with EPA/DHA (Fish Oil).

>>40010307
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

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>>40009109
>Faggot MANLETS and their needles
>WHEN WILL THEY LEARN

>take cialis
>fwb flakes at the last minute
REEEEEEE

>>40010240
Just stay away from the saunas

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Just saying if your city isn't building up like this maybe you're in the wrong place.

I certainly am but from Connecticut to Virginia is absolute shit so that's not saying much. Go farther North, it's relaxed and pleasant. Go farther South, it's relaxed and booming. Go West and, although I haven't seen it all, it's great.

>>40010340

Doesn't wait without purpose.

>>40010363
>this

Gotta love it tho, this morning I came inside her then kept fucking her for 30min. Kept my hard on the whole time

>>40010307
>Will do but that shit's expensive.
It is expensive - been looking on people selling bulk powder on ebay but will probably inquire with the people who make some of the ready-made ones to see if they can sell me the powder without capsules before making an unknown ebay purchase.

>>40010392
powder city 20% 100grams 35$

>>40009166
>doing gear for only a month

>>40010300
more like get tren start college and be a loser in ur room playing world of warcraft for 12+ hours a day because u are fucking worth nothing

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>>40010411
thats the spirit!!!

have some feels

>>40010428
that's not the spirit that's my reality

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>>40010372

And we can't blame this one on niggers as The South has the most of them. They are, however, far better at keeping them in line by simply not enabling their bullshit.

You go to a #BlackLivesMatter rally in Raleigh and you find a mix of ugly liberal Whites and naive college kids all from the local university. That's saying something considering they have between 5-100 times as many niggers as you do. Really, you live in a 10% black area you probably think it's 90%, but go ahead and look it up.

>>40010392

High risk of being bunk.

I got some supplements from a purple panda and I'm pretty sure they're bunk. It just doesn't give me an erection like the stuff from India.

>>40010438
like u think u knew beta before. how beta do u have to be to be in college running tren and then wind up speaking for a total of less than ~45 seconds over 4 months and play world of warcraft for 12+ hours a day until you pass out from exhaustion because how shitty your life is doesn't let you fall asleep otherwise

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>>40010438
well atleast your with friends, lucky with you where honest.

>>40010478
>friends
:^)

>>40010371
What's up with saunas?

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>>40010514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mauV2NdCs60

gonna go play VA-11 Hall-A bartending Virtual novel so time to get drunk and be depressed since i have to much anxiety to even think of getting a girl.

the cyberpunk future is upon us.

>>40010629
>being this new

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>>40010667
Forgot pic

>>40010514

>string of ebay returns
>somehow, some reason, fucking imbeciles are buying notebooks
>can't figure out how to connect to wifi or log into AOL online
>messaging me for tech support
>when they still can't figure out how to set up microsoft outlook or whatever ancient netscape shit they use, they open a return

What the fuck.

This is happening so much now.

I am literally fucking angry 24/7 all day fucking cortisol levels must be through the roof.

Like the smallest shit sets me off last couple days IRL, some guy at the gym was doing fucking dumbell lat swings and he waited until I was like 2 inches away and almost hit me in the fucking head and I had a vivid fantasy of fucking grabbing the dumbell and beaitng his fucking brains with it

My mom says some shit about how I'm too skinny and etc etc (despite my already telling her I was trying to get a little leaner and then add weight, in like, the most basic terms) and I am so tempted to just shout 'YOURE TOO FUCKNG FAT AND I DONT FUCKING OFFER MY OPINION ON YOUR PHYSIQUE DO I?!?!?!?'

Fucking I hear people talking and shit or just my mom on the phone normal shit and it makes me so angry I am legit grinding my teeth and shit just from hearing her voice

People try to talk to me IRL other than the one or two regulars I like and I just grunt at them

>tfw turning into swolen glands

no. Stop.

That fucking guy is on like a million roids and all kidns of drugs. Where is my excuse?

>have fucking fantasys about bashing these old fuckers with the toughbooks they bought

fuck fuck fuck

>>40010690
>>That fucking guy is on like a million roids and all kidns of drugs. Where is my excuse?
speaking of which i am trying very hard right now not to take this benadryl i have here

this is the first time ive felt this for a drug somehow and this shit isn't even as addictive as other shit i have tried

like u know when u are craving some food and u are hungry as fuck, and you see something that looks good and you just "want" it. i am getting that feeling towards the benadryl i have right here. WTF

>>40010240
Def gonna spend a summer in Thailand smoking crack and drinking GHB. I've done in it Miami for a couple months and it was great. Thailand will probably next level that shit.

>>40010755
arent you the guy who has been in rehab and has had fuckloads of heart attacks

>>40010749
> like u know when u are craving some food and u are hungry as fuck, and you see something that looks good and you just "want" it. i am getting that feeling towards the benadryl i have right here

Dump all your benadryl in the toilet now.

>>40010749

This is where willpower comes in glandsy, unless you want to take it, then hey.

Anyways I am fucking turning into you, I actually have little interest in women/sex at this point, just feel angry.

Like I would only wanna fuck a girl if some fucking nu male was orbitting her hardcore or something and get off on that


>obese manlet (like 5'2", not natT level manlet)
>ugly as sin, like legit, disgusting
>dyel as fuck PLUS fat, looks like my before pics
>this fucking guy
>always gives me dirty looks because he sees his gf looking at me (lol)
>when I do my OHPs he comes in the rack next to me and like does that weird hop shit OHP with 5 lbs more for 3 reps and then reracks the weights with a smirk on his face lol
>not even fucking care about trump
>I'm sitting on the couch watching some shit on CNN
>he says something bad about trump
>i don't fucking care about that shit really
>fucking MAGA motherfucker you mad u lost?

He always comes in to the gym with his 1/10 GF. I actually got her phone number. I did it. She was making eye contact with me, figured she could move up from fatass to DYEL skelly.

She is legit disgusting. Disgusting, disgusting, beak, facial features all fucked up, disgusting body.

She was fawning over me (top kek nice standards fucking bitch)

I'm gonna hate fuck her. And I'm not even attracted to this fucking disgusting bitch, like I said, I am attracted to anything 2/10-10/10 ONLY.

I have fucking autism but I know not to talk to ppl about politics at the fucking gym? fucking idiot.

>>40010778
I've spent a decent amount of the last few years in rehabs and jails. Never had a heart attack though. I've ODed and stopped my heart though.

>>40010755
>Thailand will probably next level that shit

Enjoy the saunas m8

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>>40011024

Can you stop fucking your fucking shit up?

You've always been a cool dude

And i see/read about you doing all this fucking pants on head retarded moronic shit, you're gonna be dead in no time, and I'll actually be pissed, stop being an idiot

You realize you're gonna end up back in jail with no fucking PCT no nothing eating 1500 calories a day in prison food and not be able to lift and end up 110 lbs or dead if you keep it up?

>haha go to thialand smoke crack
>what could go wrong

look at your life from a third party objective view and think 'is this smart??'

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Reminder that you don't have to lift if you take sterioids.

You'll still grow.

>>40009389
>People still think most girls are sexually attracted to average bloated steroid users

You need to go years or do serious tren cycles before girls notice anything besides'oh he's big'. And "big" != "Hot". It's better than scrawny, that's it.

>>40010240
thailand is the disneyland for roidbros?

>>40011180

>grabs photos of a natty that just started out proud of his progress and wanting to show masT
>this autistic ranting

kys

>>40010690
>>40010894
>>40011240
stop

Just watched "Goon" and teared up during the final fight scene.

Should I up my AI or was it a legit moving scene

>>40010240
Check out Elite gym in Koh Samui if you go. The biggest cunt i've seen IRL or otherwise lifts there. Think a 6'7 Jeff Seid.

Otherwise, roids are extremely easy to get, oh and Xanax/Adderall is OTC legal. Stay away from the clubs if you dont want to get stabbed-- Ark Bar is ok

/blogpost

>>40011240
dumb ape

Anyone who thinks to try steroids needs to grow up mentally before they try growing up physically

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>>40008397
How will he ever recover?

>>40011278
I cry to certain songs even when my e2 is low (verified by bloodwork 2 days prior)

Not everything is sterioids bro.

>>40011103

lol

>inb4moosey heart attack
>inb4 masT stroke

>>40011434
>inb4 you're a friendless autist who cross posts into this thread constantly like we're some special club

muh elitism

>>40011382
I just love hockey so much QQ

>>40011680
i love you, anon.

>>40010629
It's how zyzz died new friend

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>>40012147
no friends here

bully zone activated

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Brehs...

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guns > 3d
everytime

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Can I expect decent results switching from PPLx?

>>40012534
natty? normally I wouldn't ask but it seems prudent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RREo2BysYS4
>tfw not a permablast beast

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Makin wizard fires and shit...
Ya'll dig?

>>40012534
>switching from PPLx
why?

well whatever, there's no "wrong" answer between upper/lower splits and ppl... you'll do fine if you did fine on your ppl, otherwise there's another issue

>>40012566
Has that log been soaked in borate salts?

Always wanted to try that.

>>40012568
Natty yes, I've been doing PPL for over a year now and want something different.

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>>40012577
Honestly I have no idea. My boy was like "yo I found this shit that makes fire blue at Walmart" and threw some packet of unknown compound in the fire lol

>>40012199
M8, you're not going to make it

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will test make me go from a reserved insecure self loathing awkward failure to a somewhat respectable member of society?
been waiting 2 years for things to get better hoping i wouldn't need to resort to this, but nothing has changed

>>40012795
Absolutely not.

>>40012871
i thought test was the solution to everything

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>>40009166
HAHAHAHHAH, no wait.. HAHAHAHA

but the funny thing is? At least he's autistic enough to just admit it, unlike the rest. KEK

>>40009986
that Dre? he look al skinny and shit

any of u australian fatties use hivelabs?

is his shit ok? seems overpriced as hell

>>40013015
I have but only for their cialis, and modafinil going to try some test e when I get some more money lol.

But in my experience good customer service, good products and fucking fast shipping.

Ordered mine on Monday, received it Tuesday

What would you recommend. Need to lose bf% and be semi swole for the tour.

>>40013490
Ped

>>40012632
hey cap can you post your guide to making an mk-677 liquid solution?

>>40013497
More specific? Adderall?

>>40013628
nah, either winnie to get nice and dry. Or just use caffeine pills to starve off hunger. Personally wouldn't use adderall but thats just because I'm not too into opiates

First time using Tren, at a dose 125mg Test E and 200mg Tren E e3d. How much caber should I be taking and how often to mitigate the prolactin sides?

>>40013693
This place isnt about steroids anymore,its claimed by retarded fucks.
Go to r/steroids ans save yourself before its too late,my friend.

>juice
>jews
Roidfags BTFO tbqh

>>40013015
Its good shit, overpriced tho as you said.

>>40010690
secretely taking tren

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Welp, guess I'm buying this tonight

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I was just by the barber, got my hair got so fucking thick he had to thin it out with a axe. I think I am gonna lower on the meme supplements, hair is getting too thick it just too insane

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Good news. 1 week on monix and i already see tiny little hair filling gaps in the beard area.

MORE BEARD MORE GAINS MORE HAIR

Curious if anyone has ever had serious mental side effects on cycle? Stories? You always hear about rood rage etc in media but most guys I know who cycle have never had that happen

>>40013911
Roid rage is probably due to e2 problems. If your e2 is in check you don't have any aggression problems. Don't let your e2 get too high

Probably tren is causing the most mental shit, at least of the stories i hear of. But this also personal. For me masteron at higher dose(500mg) gave me problems. Was paranoid about my gf cheating on me all the time and shit.

test is the less shitty for your mind imo. dht's can fuck with your mind and hair

>>40010690
Tren without gains or other advantages.

Saves money and natty card too.

>>40010690
w2c a million roids

>>40013639
Doesn't winnie fuck up your hair tho.

>>40014063
hasn't fucked up mine

>>40013841
I used that shit for 5 months but im only 19 and my beard follicles havent matured yet so it only half worked, grew a lot more hair but not nearly enough for a full beard.

>>40013982
Im on winstrol atm (the notorious RIP hair compound) but thanks to my genetics my hair is perfect.

>>40013911
Ran tren for the first and likely only time like 4 years ago as part of my contest prep. It's the only thing that's ever really had a noticeable effect on me. But holy shit did it fuck me up.

Don't really have a specific story, It didn't make me rage, but it did make me really aggressive you could say, also crazy narcissistic and my mood was just on a constant rollercoaster. Would do super cringy shit. off the top of my head
>I'd spend, daily, probably at least an hour looking at myself flex and pose in the mirror.
>I changed my schedule to more consistently go to gym during primetime when its packed.
>would get erections posing/checking myself out in the gym. Also I'd purposely try pose when there were a lot of people near the benches/mirrors.
>would randomly start crying hysterically sometimes running cardio.
>randomly start crying hysterically driving home from work once.
>walked around shirtless pretty much all the time. Even like during dinner when my parents were there.
>few times i took my shirt off grocery shopping.
>would walk up really close to strangers to make them uncomfortable or make them move. I think I thought I was establishing dominance over them or something

Think my results were pretty atypical, even for tren. But ya it definitely fucked with my head.

>>40014345
fake

post body with timestamp or get the fuck out

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>tfw have annual work party with a reserved spot in a bigass bar tonight with a free drink/snack buffet
>tfw I'm literally gonna ask for diet coke in a bigass highball and just pretend it's rum and coke
>tfw just gonna eat the chicken tikka breast bites or whatever high protein finger food they have there
>don't wana compromise my gains


Any other autistic #gymcels here?

Low test fat guy here, about to go on TRT doses. Should I use AI from the start, or just feel it out until I can get blood work again in mid March? I already got blood work for my current state, and e2 was exactly in the middle of the normal range.

>>40014168
What about the natural test after cycle? You need something to kick start it, whatever?

>>40014385
This is the type of shit that belongs on /fit/ not fraud

I basically have unlimited access to pharmacy grade testosterone and I want to make a living out with it. Does anyone have some tips for a beginner? Do recommend selling anything over the net?

Where can I get roids?

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>>40015323

>tfw been lazy with my training
>tfw some (natty) gained 25 lbs of muscle in 3 months

He did it without adding a single pound of fat on the bulk too, so he doesn't have to cut. I am mirrin hard.

Fuck and here I am with my fingers crossed praying I can gain 25 lbs of LBM in years and years thinking how happy I would be at a dried out 185 lbs

I should ask for tips, he did it natty.

Is there even any kind of roids that will make you gain 25 (lean) lbs in 3 months?

Like, if some skeleton not in noob gains took HGH+Tren+ 1grm wk test would he gain 25 lbs in 3 months?

Been cruising on test 250 for a few months. Mast and proviron come this week. Going to be a good blast and cut. We're all gonna make it bro's.

>>40015599
Sure it's do able probably is more like 15lbs he just got cut and looks huge.

can someone here drop me a name (nothing else needed) of a DNP vendor who is cheap and has good product?

>>40015599
>>Like, if some skeleton not in noob gains took HGH+Tren+ 1grm wk test would he gain 25 lbs in 3 months?
even that is retarded since if you extrapolate that it would be 100lbs in a year aka he's big enough to be on a stage

>>40010307
How did you make Benjamins as a hacker?
bug-bounties, gov't work, contracting?
I'm also hacker, but on defense/blue team side. Looking to supplement income, without federal jail time.

>>40015660
You don't just constantly gain on steroids. Once your blood levels even out and your mass matches your calorie input you aren't growing alot. So that isn't at all true. But 25lbs on tren test and maybe some EQ to help eat would be doable if on point and macros are correct. Probably longer than 90 days however.

>>40015660
it's a good thing cns adaptation and noob gains are a thing and extrapolating short time gains over a long period is not how it fucking works

I just realized I've never ever heard you talk about working out or nutrition... your knowledge is just as vast as alex's isn't it

>>40015679
>>You don't just constantly gain on steroids.
hello skeleton

>omfg i gained so much weight as the ester was building up on my retarded non-frontloaded cycle of long esters, just kept gaining weight so rapidly until coincidentally the esters built up and i retained the expected amount of water
>yea my gains just stopped after that man, dont know why, i eat so much!!!!

>>40015775
>nutrition
your "nutrition" is probably "omg i eat until im so full i eat so much" then post on reddit how you're a hard gainer and cant gain weight even though you are clearly eating 4k cals a day

>>40015378
help

>>40015794
it's sad how little you know about anything

when are you going to post body pics

>>40015887
>xD deca test and dbol for bulking my man, gain 20lbs the first month!!! Roid to look like a piece of shit!!!

>>40015927
look into upregulation of protein myostatin you fucking ape

>>40014385
What is autistic about this? I do that all the time. I just go to places where they serve chicken, rice or meat otherwise i don't go. Sorry I can't go because of my religion i only can eat chicken, rice and meat.

>>40014187
Try masteron for months at high dosis

Winstrol did nothing for my hair either. Masteron is the root of all evil

>>40015323
That's why you don't make gains

>>40015794
I don't even know what point you're trying to make.

>>40010629
Zyzz died in a Sauna. Combination of lots of roids, coke, heat and a congenital heart defect

>>40015948
Look up "oh man I look like a fucking fat piece of shit from all this water... But think of the gains from this deca dbol horseshit!!!! Roid to look like shit because tren is evil and old men say I shouldnt use it until my 20th cycle after winning 3 competitions!!!"

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Bimbo I had a weird dream about your ex

I opened a breakfast food truck with Seth Rogan and she came by wanting to buy a bunch of dildo's and some weird sort of collection tray for a piss fetish or something

I asked her why the fuck she thought a food truck would have that, then saw her face and recognized it as your exgfroommiething and I sold her the sex toy shit (which for some reason seth rogan had in the back of the food truck) and she was about to leave and I said "say hi to bimbo"

next thing I remember is that we were all talking but suddenly a worldwide flood happened and this food truck came a bit of a degenerate noah's ark or something, until we came across a giant plane that a colony of people were using as a boat, and we joined up with them

I'm not even on tren, what the fuck

also

>saw a car with a 'combat medic' sticker and 'bodybuilding.com' sticker on it

b-brick bby?

>>40016081
>haha I was trolling all along I'm not just a retard I swear ;^)

>>40016084
Are u on tren

The dreams are fucking retarded. One time I dreamed that I was on my extended families space station and my little cousin was annoying the fuck out of me so I was trying to distract him so I could take an escape pod and go home, lol. Reading too many sci fi novels at the time

>>40016108
"Tren sucks for bulking scale is going up too slow. I am losing fat though"

"Man this deca is the shit 20lbs in one month!!! I look like shit though but who cares 20lbs im huge omg"

LMAO just finished lifting and checked fraud and no new posts, and I am like wait a minute

>check phone

Lmao of course it is fucking Saturday

Enjoying ur lives huh

>>40015927

Why people can't just maintain a low bodyfat % and look decent year round?

it's so hard to put on muscle. What could be easier than not getting fat or bulking slowly?

People with tons of lean muscle and obviously been training for years get their bf % up to 20 and you legit look like someone that's never been in a gym before.

Why? Why why why?

I understand if you're a "powerlifter" (power lift those burgers into your mouth) but people say 'yeah asthetics bro' and just cruise at 20% bodyfat, cut to 15%, bulk to 20%

What the fuck are you doing? YOu can't fucking eat less food and just look good nonsotp other than for like 1 month every 2 years when you cut and take tinder photos?

/autistic rant

>>40013826

fuark

>>40013841

>have 8% bodyfat facial asthetics
>have strong jawline and handsome chin
>hide it under a disgusitng layer of hair
>'good news!'

>>40013791

>tfw naturally producing tren

FEELS GOOD.

Am I some kind of superhuman being?

It's the EC stack, it is making me angry and anxious I think. If I can't do something for like 2 minutes I freak out, like my ADD is 1000 times worse.

I was sitting at the DMV waiting to get my license reknewed and in line for two minutes and freaking out and shit thinking 'lamo two minutes closer to being dead doing nothing what the fuck???'

>>40016766
Nah, I'm sitting in my house wishing I had been able to order my gear about three days earlier. Being natty is lame.

i am 21 years old and fat
i got test level of 267 ng/dl and i have one testicle.
i don't want to jump on TRT immediately
can i try running CLOMID only cycle, 25 mg EOD.

will it work? all i want is higher TEST for more gains. doc said i can have TRT but it can fuck up my fertility later on life so.

>>40016766
>check fraud
>oh the turboautist posted
>maybe tomorrow

>>40016836
>why everybody isnt like me
>I am going to make fun of powerlifters because of masT does it,maybe he will let me suck his dick irl.
You cant be big and lean at the same time while being natty,but you can be big and %15-20 bf while being natty you retarded fuck,not everyone here wants to look like you want to look.

>>40016958
please add alex to your filter

>>40016958
>not everyone here wants to look like you want to look
The mere concept is lost on him. Either filter him or welcome to the shitshow, buckle your seatbelt and turn off your autism radar else it will overheat and explode.

>>40016958
>but you can be big and %15-20 bf
i love when natties think their fucking fatceps are "big". or just retard fat fucks in general like manlet gains, who was posting his 20+% bf pics here saying he felt accomplished with 17 inch arms. when you couldn't even tell where his chest inserted because he was so fat

>>40017074
>the guy who looks like a real life pokemon talks shit
You are literally retarded,you just cant fucking understand some people prefer being more buff to being more lean,your little brain cant understand this.
>their fatceps is big
But its the only way to be big as a natty,having a fatceps,you retarded fuck.

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>>40016958
>You cant be big and lean at the same time while being natty,

Lamo? Says who?

What kind of logic is that?

Do you really think you're gonna magically lose all your lean mass because you put down your fucking fork for a few months and cut in a controlled and slow manner?

Whatever minimal muscle mass you lost cutting will not magically make you go from "big" to "small".

>not everyone here wants to look like you want to look.

You prob. should have visible fucking obliques and shreds if you want to even pretend that you're a """"bodybuilder""" or lifting for """asthetics"""".

That's like, the bare minimum that you can do. Anyone can do that, in any fucking time frame, just eat less food. You don't even need fucking muscles, just lean out and then wax or shave your hair.

>really on fucking lard to make you look "big".

Yeah, nice one fucking m8.

>making fun of powerlifters

The problem isn't powerlifters, the problem is fucking people that try to pretend that SS+Gomad is a good idea to make you asthetic.

Then fucking people inject bull hormones up their ass, do some lazy stupid powerlifting routine, 45 minutes 3 times a week, end up with a pathetic

>roiding for this body

And then they go around offering advice to people 'Powerlifting makes you asthetic, Look, I look big after 2 years of powerlifting'

With their fucking Blast and cruise + Tren >roiding for this pics that are are so fucking dyel no one can even tell they were on gear to call them out

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>>40017074

Bro, bro, bro.

I have 19" arms flexed.

I'm buff, I'm muscular, I'm big.

Why would i want to look liek a tiny twink?

If I cut down to 8%, shit, I'd look tiny (at least he admits he has no muscle mass?)

>>40017122

>fatceps
>buff

lamo, no, the word for that is 'Fat'.

'Prediabetic' 'Disgusting' '>lifting for this' etc

>>40015323
is this bait

>>40017133
>>40017152
You are a brainless fuck,real naturals lose Shit ton of muscle while cutting down even to %10 retard.
masT's "natty" pics confused your mind,he isnt even close to natty in these pics he is bigger and leaner than all natural infamous bodybuilders-example eric helms-,but he gets away with that because of retarded fucks like you.

>>40017225
he also doesn't understand that if you put a shirt on a true natty at low bf% like natT, it would be impossible to tell that he lifts at all

>>40017225

>cut from 55% bodyfat (Estat/Delusion: 20% bodyfat) to 40% (Estat/Delusion: 10%)
>lose a lot of measurements off my "biceps"
>'wow I lost so much muscle'

40% BF master race reporting in

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>>40017250

>what are fucking veins

t. 35% bodyfat jason blaha nutrition

>>40017282
you think veins are an indicator of someone lifting...?

>>40017272
>I dont have any arguments so I am going to say retarded extreme shit
You dont even let us to add you to our filter list,fucking kill yourself you retarded shit.
>>40017277
I wont write name so they wont understand that I am alex

>>40017290

large veins = minimal muscle mass + normal bf % (at the very least)

99% of people that have a minimal muscle mass and a normal bf % are lifting.

Look outside, the general population, no one has a fucking reasonable bf % everyone is formeless 20% disgusting lumps of shit, so they LITTERALLY don't have veins.

Even on this "fitness" board, 95%+ of posters are too fat to have a single visible vein on their body other than on their dick

>>40017353
no, they're an indicator of low bf AT BEST

you think you look like someone who lifts? you think the average anorexic video game player looks like he lifts? just no

>>40017353

Steroids have fried your fucking brain

I have abs, definition, and the only veins i have are the large one in my bicep, the large one in my shoulder, and a large one in the forearm

For a natty more than that without a pump is difficult and probably inefficient

>>40017402

Do YOU think YOU look like you lift?

Because to ME YOU look like a fucking guy that got trapped inside a wendys for 10 years


I look like an anorexic, it's 1000 times better than looking like you do, 5'6", 250 lbs, with ZERO lean mass.

If you ever bothered cutting, you would discover you were a skeleton being suffocated underneath a huge layer of lard.

But no, why face that truth? Plus, you'd have to stop stuffing your face with dairy queen!

Better to remain delusional and think you look like you lift.

>2017
>looking worse than an anorexic guy OBJECTIVELY

AHAHAH

Anorexic/0 muscle mass > 0 muscle mass + 100 lbs of lard

My pathetic disgusting body BTFO you so hard.

How bad is that? Must be a sad existence

>>40017452
Dude you are trying so hard to copy masT,it pyhsically hurts now.
Please only use alex as name and let me filter you,please.

>>40017452
(you)

>>40017418

>I have abs, definition, and the only veins i have are the large one in my bicep, the large one in my shoulder, and a large one in the forearm

t. fucking delusional 20% bf IIFYM nutrition

I am 12.5% bodyfat NATTY with NO MUSCLE MASS AT ALL on my body and I have vascularity everywhere

The reason you THINK you don't have veins and THINK your bf% is at all reasonable is because you are sitting at 25% and convinced yourself rolls=abs

>>40017122
LOL. are you fucking retarded. no one prefers being fat to lean only fat fucks delude themselves into thinking that. you are probably that retard that was

>roiding for this
and got me to say "well that looks good for a natty!!"

>the only way to be big natty is having fatceps
ok so let's pick out some obeast at walmart riding the electric scooters. do you also think they are "buff" as fuck?

>>40017133
>then wax or shave your hair.
i spent 3+ hours doing this yesterday and jesus christ that was like the next step, fuck being a hairy ass gorilla hiding all of my veins

>>40017568
Yes you roid but you get dwarfed hard by eric buganhagen who is natural but "fat" because he has %15 bf.
He isnt even a bodybuilder,kill yourself.

>>40017568
lol, many people prefer it. insecurity and dysmorphia are expected from people who roid, but you'd do better to actually acknowledge reality. lean is preferable to most people, but there are many people who like husky, fat, strong men, especially in colder climates and societies where violence is still common. being built and fat in the middle east or Russia is viewed very positively by women.

>>40017452
>a_l...e_x_a-N-D_e_R
is the next one al3x 1337 360 n0sc0p3 m0ntage with rap music

also i am laughing my atrophied roid balls off at your posts and how butthurt that
>roiding for this
guy is getting

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>>40017590
>eric buganhagen
lol
lel
a lelelelel

you think this is 15%. are you fucking literally insane. 15% you can see abs a little. are you fucking INSANE. this is over 20% easily... what teh fuck...

>>40017613
>but there are many people who like husky, fat, strong men
lol

yeah look at all the middle east and russian instagram fitness models. i bet they are all 30% bf making girls wet themselves as they waddle by.

imagine if someone like jeff seid went over there. man their pussies would dry up so fast just looking at him

>>40017418
>Steroids have fried your fucking brain
He is natty. Congenital brainfry.

>>40017486

lol i thought you were serious

carry on

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>>40017643
He is leaner right now.
But my point still stands,he both stronger and bigger than you even tho you shoot tren and he is natural.

What's the least expensive roid that produces the best results with the least amount of side effects?

>>40017727
Creatine.

>>40017655
delusional angst.

read what i said. perfectly moderate statement: lean is preferable to most, but there are many who like higher bf%.

not at all incompatible with Jeff Seid being popular there, although he might well get slapped around by some strong fat guy for posing like that.

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>>40017568
>>40017587

Yeah I just shaved properly instead of trimmers, I went from 15% bodyfat to like 11% and my vasclarity went up I dunno, 100 times.

I'm approaching an aesthetic here, once I get to 8%, I'll look "good" for people that are attracted to auschwitz survivors (mostly burly men and teenage girls I assume).

The most retarded fucking shit is that the majority of this board *wants* look like me, actually thinks this is a "good" physique, because well, they are either lifting for teenage girls or burly men.

Not realizing that just starving yourself for 4 months and lifting will do, they think it takes years (to lose weight? really?) so they unironically do SS and Gomad and get fatter because 'strength base' 'can't cut down to nothing!'

Anyways, that was never the goal, the goal was to be big and natty, and I realize how many years and years away I am (apparently, I am delusional and it can't be done, we'll see glands- one day I hope you call me a fake natty. That is my first goal, reach a size where glands looks at me and says roids- one day )

One day glands, one day.

Regardless, if you want to look good, or to be a bodybuilder (ding ding ding) the CORRECT course of action is to just fucking cut down to a skeleton.

How people don't understand this, I don't know.

Daily reminder: I look better after 4 months of starving myself and hypertrophy rep range random mast style training than ANYONE that did SS +Gomad and got fat as fuck after 6 months did.

Period, end of story.

Prove me wrong: Post a photo of yourself after 6 months of GOMAD and SS (starting from sedentary..... not starting from 'hurr I went to the gym once in a while for a year or two hurr hurr or hurr I played sports hurr nothing major'

No photo is coming, because it's not possible to *Not* look like a disgusting sack of shit after 6 months of SS and gomad.

SS+Gomad makes no sense, doesn't work, and it's retarded 1000%, unless you want to be a powerlifter.

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>>40017684
just checked. he has a fitness instagram. confirmed roider even though he looks like shit

>>40017740
>but there are many who like higher bf%.

tell yourself that fatty, tell yourself how sexy your rolls are while you eat that burger

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>>40017798
>we'll see glands- one day I hope you call me a fake natty. That is my first goal, reach a size where glands looks at me and says roids- one day )
its not even about the size it's the look they give you

this gook kid posted this on reddit, and he roids to look like shit.

yea nothing to see here, just the average 100lb gook exploding in veins. lol

>>40009109
How would i go about adding deca to a 600mg per week sust cycle? I have clomid and nolva for pct and an AI along with hcg for during. Havent started yet so i have time

>>40017831
for starters you throw out the sustanon into the trash unless you are going to pin it every day and then stop injecting for like a month to pct afterwards, lol

>>40017802
i'm not fat, though. i'm not trying to defend myself, i'm just correcting your demonstrably stupid post.

>Oh there's a great idea, cure your crohn's disease by contracting O157:H7 E.coli, Salmonella, or a Parasite infection!

You're exactly right! Those supposedly "pathological" organisms cure crohns!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1856386/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15591509

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2715056/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14723608

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14499784


vegans BTFO yet again, when will we ever stop winning.

>>40017857
yeah i believe you. those girls just get wet as fuck staring at rolls of fat. it just happens

>>40017856
I was planning EOD, is it that bad?

>>40017802
>calling this a roider
End yourself.

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>>40017822

REEE fucking glands. My favorite thing is vascualrity, are you bro scienceing me? I know tren makes you get huge vascualrity gains, but I see guys (there is a tripfag called "Perfect nutrition") who don't lift, just run marathons and shit, and eat really clean, and have good nutrition.

Funnily enough, I have the same 'doesn't lift' physique as he does, and I eat clean, and I have SOME vascualrity.

Maybe there is some correlation bewteen nutrition and vascualrity?

Every guy that isn't obese and is lean-ish, and says they eat clean. no matter how dyel, has some vascualrity. Coincidence?

Stop fucking with my head glands

>>40017905
yes goyim that body is just pure whey protein, you too can be an instagram fitness model, just buy our routine and supplements

>looks like that, has a fitness instagram, and unironically does fucking GOMAD (as stated himself)

when are kids gonna stop being naive and realize that anyone with a remarkable physique regardless of if its in strength or aesthetics is juicing?

>>40017905

Spend any time at all on steroid boards fourms websites reddit you will learn it is possible to look like total garbage and dyel on insane amounts of shit

You don't magically just beat natty limit when you pin yourself, you can do some starting strength bullshit routine for 45 mins 3 times a week and end up looking natty as fuck

>>40017727
Testosterone

>>40017969
not necessarily vascularity in itself. it increases it yeah but roids, certain ones more and in different ways that others, give you the dry as fuck dickskin look.

>>40017988
He isnt a instagram model,he just has an instagram fag.
>no juice delts
>no juice trap
>no juice vascularity
Kill yourself faggot.

>>40017901
Not that bad but in general sust is really bad, especially for your first cycle. Get something like test enanthate or cypionate, it'll be much easier. And don't do deca if you're planning on cycling, it takes an eternity to leave your body. BnC or don't use it.

>>40018044
roids don't guarantee you vascularity retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W22iBBVpQ8

just found this video. he looks huge here i must have been looking at very old pictures. you think you can look like that kind of balloon animal with your retarded supplements and protein powder, good for you.

>>40018108
Dude you are just sad,pump + high bf.
And dude pulls 1200 lbs rack pull,what do you expect.
Check alex from alphadestiny,I bet you will call him roids too.

>>40018044

>this is all a perquisite to being on gear

Glands do you have that photo of the guy that did starting strength for 6 months, on a 6 month 500mg/wk perma """cruise""" before and "after"?

The one who got "so much bigger friends and family are suspicious?"

It was like my first or second month in the gym and I was still obese and not ready to start bullying anybody yet.

>lose weight
>ready to talk shit about skinnyfats that roid for skinnyfat

wew. I did it. I am better than the lowest of the lowest of the lowest in the bodybuilding community.

Hillarious that someone out there is injecting roids in their ass to look worse than an anorexic. I always laugh my ass off thinking about this guy pinning and then doing SS and gomad, literally.

>go through the trouble of roiding
>go to the gym
>do 27 sets A WEEK
>leave

'W-why don't I look like Ronnie COleman yet?'

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>>40018135
>xD pump will make an emasculated natty look like this

>>40018135
>HE SELLS FUCKING FITNESS SHIT
>HE EVEN HAS A VIDEO EXPLAINING HOW HIS RESULTS ARE ALL NATURAL AND DEFENDING HIMSELF FROM STEROID USE

>>40018152
Lotus on roids too ?
alphadestiny ?
Man I think alex is on roids too,no pump can make a natty look like that.

>>40018172
What does he sell ?

>>40018191
kid fuck off back to bodybuilding.com where you can circlejerk about how natty you are. i get it you just started lifting 2 weeks ago and think you are gonna look like zyzz the "alleged" steroid user, and get all the pussy.

here i will give you a useful hint. google eugen sandow, the "father of bodybuilding", the most aesthetic man to exist before steroids came into play. he was 5'6 and looked like a fucking twink, because that's all that's possible natty.

>>40018201
outalpha dot com

lol

also found this compilation upon googling his name...

"Hahahahaha this guy is a laugh! I watched his video and he's mad, fck this, fck that and so on. He says a lot of BS like 16-18 are common in natural guys that train etc LOL!

I'm gonna do this like i'm talking to him.

You say that you have 16+inch arms and been like that for 2 years: http://outalpha.com/arm-size-plateaus/

Well...it doesn't add up Alex, in January 2014 you had like what, 13.5..14inch arms for a 5'5" tall? http://i.imgur.com/QRndNeW.jpg We are October 2016 so you mean that in 9 months (October 2014) you gained 2inch or more in the arms, naturally, wow!!

Oh you were mad someone was call you skinny, now i understand... http://i.imgur.com/54VsYTB.jpg

2yrs later...lifting 585 wow! blob:http://imgur.com/81379c4b-6378-4822-b00c-1e78a49c0572

And better, pulling 905 baby! Thats whats up! http://i.imgur.com/iEUqBto.jpg

You became so strong in such a short period of time Alex, 2014 to 2016!!! Such an inspiration for all of us. It's a pity that just in 2years you look like 30 now...and you're almost bald on top :( http://i.imgur.com/ngx9ERN.jpg

Oh my...you know something about life Alex? It's like the lies we tell: always catch up with us. Be safe.

PS: oh, and leave FFMI alone Alex. Not needed.
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i once thought incestbrah was the worst to come to fraud

>>40018046
Well fuck me. I wanted the deca for my joints. What about first 6 weeks with deca and i get some better test? Appreciate the advice

>>40018306
use npp then but toss that sustanon trash

>>40018233
oh please,you can't think that alex is on roids

at this point i have given up figuring out what the fuck you faggots are even fighting about.

>>40018323
no he did natty gomad + starting strength for 2 years and then decided to sell his own fitness shit

>>40018325
some retard wandered in from the bodybuilding.com teenage bodybuilding section and thinks people that make money off their body are natty

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> Uber and PostMates use background check service CheckR
> CheckR incorrectly lists a minor no-point violation as 'driving on a suspended license' in my state
> Uber denied me for this
> PostMates doesn't care but still want Uber
> write CheckR about this multiple times and they completely ignore the details in my emails saying "we can't do anything, Uber dictates such policy" which is nonsense

This is defamation, right?

>>40018341
then who is natty?

>>40018341

His sister never pinner in her life and she makes dozens of singles every friday night with her body

>>40018341
and btw sandow was 5'9 you moron

>>40018312
I will, what makes it so bad?

>>40018355
99% of the people who shop at gnc

>>40018355
eugen sandow along with everyone else pre-1930s

>>40018388
funny thing is,even if someone would look good naturally you faggots would call him a roider

>>40018371
you get literally every downside of every ester length, with literally none of the upsides

>>40018397
find me someone that looks good from before 1930 then and it will be impossible for me to call him a roider

oh wait everyone looks like shit because they didnt have steroids

>>40018406
I see. Got it, thanks bud

>>40018406
sure mate,you tell us sandow was 5'6 and that alex gained strenght cause of roids
roids don't give you that much strenght anyway

>>40018420
>17 inch arms
>above %15 bf
>lift more than 6 7 years
>5'5
And he is thinks he is on roids.
He is just mad that there are somebody out there have actually male testosterone levels that he didnt have.

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>>40018467
yeah man it is just magic, all these random faggots popping up on youtube and instagram out of nowhere, better than the best in the world before steroids existed.

man, human genetics sure have changed in the past 80 years!

>>40018521
well that guy in the picture is not alex just some roided teen and sandow did a shitload of cardio,didn't bench(Hell,the guy couldn't even figure out how to do dips)and I bet his nutrition was lacking

>muh roids,can't grow without them
go fuck yourself

>>40018558
yes goyim no one in the world pre 1930s could grow because uhh they didnt do gomad and starting strength!!! or buy our brand name creatine + natty chain amino acid blends!!!

its funny how invested these faggots must be in their natty ""bodybuilding"" to have such levels of cognitive dissonance when the reality is so fucking obvious.

>>40018521
>%8 bf
>natty
What do you expect ?
Alex is above %15 16 bf.
Lotus is on roids too then,anybody who looks decent is on roids then okey.

>>40018599
fine then,nobody is natural everything is a lie
come watch tv

>>40009109
So are those workout DVD things like Insanity and Tapout actually beneficial?

I've only recently started working out seriously, and I've noticed that my gym-going friends do strength-oriented exercises, whereas these DVDs seem to focus more on cardio

Are they any good overall?

>>40018637
are you lost?

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>cruised tren/test/mast for a year at 195lbs
>hopped on 1g test/700 deca for 8 weeks and got up to 210 looking juicy
>suddenly got tossed in jail for 4 months
>exercised the entire time, used other inmates bodyweights for squats, pushups, ect..
>got out and im down to 195 but barely lost strength

Im short on cash, if i order some tren and test then blast moderate levels can i get back to 210 or will i have to do eight weeks of high test/deca
Is there a steroid muscle memory?

>>40018649
No, I figure this is the only place to get answers. I go to the gym, but my girlfriend does those home workout things and insists its better.

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>>40018614
Uhh yea lotus is, no shit? Be honest how long have you been lifting 2 weeks and watching zyzz and scooby videos the whole time?

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>>40018521

>did a shitload of cardio
> I bet his nutrition was lacking

Didn't get enough GOMADs right?

>sandow ate fucking chicken breast and brocolli and meat and potatoes non stop
>you eat fucking mcdonalds and pizza and ejlly beans and a GOMAD and pancakes
>'sandows nutrition was lacking'

>cardio kills gains

Yes yes, wouldn't want to do any of that, just make sure drink enough gomad, ss hard, and get enough calories, you'll make it dude.

Look like sandow in no time at all.

I can make you look like that kid, in no time.

First, I want you on the starting strength program. Second, I want you eating as MUCH as you can.

Drink a GOMAD. Don't count calories, more calroies=more progress.

make sure you don't do cardio (murder gains)

You should expect to be 180 lbs in no time, and sandow is 180 lbs, so you will have beaten his physique

Expect gains of like 10-20 lbs a month on my program + nutrition

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>>40015663

I was 'gray hat' basically. Mainly black hat activities for fun and income based on 'questionable legality' like doing mostly legal work or business for/with mostly illegal companies.

> I'm also hacker, but on defense/blue team side

There's no such thing as a good hacker or a white hat with any skills. A hacker is just a great engineer. 'Hackers' have a different objective moral system...

> there's nothing wrong with obtaining non-personal information
> if they hired shitheads that left the door open; they have it coming
> if they purposely left the door open, looking at you government/Micro$hit/etc, fuck em
> obtaining personal information is probably 'wrong' but we can't help it
> using such information is certainly 'wrong'... unless they deserve it

But, ultimately, it's not about if doing something is 'wrong'. It's about doing more; doing better; doing something interesting. Obviously, it's ideal to work for the defense, the establishment should hire more hackers to fix their ass-backwards shit. But if they don't or they hire the wrong people; they deserve to get hacked by the so-called Black Hats.

In regards to the 'blue team', the defense; we live in system where our government literally forces 'private' companies to put security holes into software so their goons may have full easy access to spy on our citizens, or hell, the government itself. Then their own goons proxy through Russia to exploit these holes and the government blames 'Russian hackers' just because the IP address traces back there.

Anyway, there's no good guys, and there's no hacker who hasn't been up to no good.

>>40018652
>suddenly got tossed into jail
kekd hard.
What happened m8 ?
No need for test/deca bs,move on bud.

>>40018614
>>40018623
its like these kids from bb.com think i am accusing these guys of a great evil by saying they are on gear. its just a fact of the sport. its not some evil shit like the media and natty 16 year olds on bb.com fucking taught you

Just went on again, in week 2.
500 mg Test E ew
500 mg Tren E ew
50 mg Oxy ed
½ pill Arimidex eod

Last time i went off, my pct was terrible.
This time i got some advice.
From week 3 im doing 385 iu HCG ew, in order to never shut down while bein on.

after week 15 when im getting off. im doing ½ pill of nolvadex eod for 4 weeks, and 2500 iu HCG ew.

thoughts?

>>40018674

yo lamo

he's beaten sandow in his first week of lifting

he just doesn't have abs yet, that's all

>>40017861

Sandows nutrition was lacking, he didn't drink a GOMAD

he has 20" biceps far exceeding sandow

Hey will Xanax affect my strength in the gym while on it?

>>40018727
>the guy who believes in masT "natty" pics are natty talks shit.
The kids above are just new to sport,they will learn.
But you wont,because of you are a fucking retard.

>>40018716
I don't visit bb.com and why can't you just accept that you can achieve a great physique without roids
Sure,keep claiming it's impossible but there are some natties out there with great physiques

>>40018233
He literally has the goal of looking roidy without actually using.

>http://outalpha.com/ne/

Skim it, fun read.

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>>40018817
its not impossible except the idea of natty physique is delusional.

this is about the most your gonna get and there built like realy buff swimmers ofc they are or they wouldnt be seals

>>40018786

>wahh wahh a boo hoo

What's wrong with convincing myself that masT natty pics are natty?

That delusion keeps me motivated to keep going and trying as hard as I can, belief that I can look like that "natty" some day.

Why do you think MasT looks like he does today? Because he is 100% delusional, thinks he will beat ronnie coleman, so he tries hard.

In life you try hard and good shit happens, maybe you don't get where you aimed for, but you get pretty far.

I always relied on delusions my whole fucking life.

I look at those mast pics and lotus pics and tell myself 'natty'. You know why? Because they said it was natty. Why would ppl on the internet lie to me?

Being delusional about your physique is cringey, if was acting like I had an impressive physique, or anything like that, yeah, that would warrant a reality check

But my delusion is harmless. I just try to stay grounded in reality in terms of my own "physique", that's NOT harmless.

>>40018861

Oh come on, the trick to look 'OK' natty is to just stay at 8%-9% bodyfat year round, and invest years and years of training.

Look at NatT, dude looks great.

Being that lean creates the illusion that you have lots of muscle mass and you look 100 times better than a guy on gear like alphadestiney that just can't control his nutrition and diet

There's no reason for you to look at those seal guys and say 'hurr you have to be 15% bdoyfat if you're natty' you know all this stop trolling

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>>40018694
Ten year old texas (state only) warrant became (nationwide) extradition overnight.
Literally couldnt have been worse timing as deca just kicked in hard and i was in mid cycle. In jail i developed a small gyno lump since no access to ai, but it has gone back down to almost nothing
Also testicles plumped back up with no pct which surprised me

So ill be good with just moderate tren/test? Im thinking 500 test and 400 tren pw and then back to cruise levels, just wanna get my pre jail size back

>>40018817
Ok so show me one from before steroids were used

>>40018897
There isnt a sigle reason for you to test/deca,just kickstart and go bud.
Also dont come here for steroid talk anymore,go to /r steroids,this place isnt about steroids anymore,its filled with retards.

>>40018890
your overhyping natty. natty is soft not ripped with veins popping everywhere all crazy like. i dont expect any of them to get below 10% BF ever simply becuase the wheight loss needed for that would deflate there glycogen stores and cut the muslces off of there body(easy to recoup after).

natT is a good example of natty and so are some fighters but even fighters take roids at low dosages. anavar being a favored one one due to its short half life and efficiency that helps keep there body going for hours and hours of work.

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> 15 beer-equivalents in so far

>>40018897
> I'm not telling you what I did

>>40018727
>>40018836
> the goal of looking roidy without actually using.

I don't know where this mentality comes from. Brainwashing? Scared of needles? Too stupid to acquire steroids? Mom won't buy it for them? Ignorance of biochemistry and history? Scared of the arsenic and piss in bathtub chemicals? Okay, that one is legitimate.

But natties don't give a legitimate reason. They're like vegans. There is nothing wrong with staying natural but it doesn't give a basis to criticize steroid users. Natties, like vegans, should just admit they subscribe to a religion and want to feign spiritualism or dept of personality to make up for their own mediocrity and quell their existential crisis.

Also I responded...

>>40018841
>>40018877

>>40018406
Any brands you'd avoid? Recommend?

Hope thats not against the board rules

>>40018920
I can't

>>40018974
omg, you're in nyc too, what gym you go to?

>>40013639
Since when Is adderal an opiate?

>>40019017
Its not

>>40018993
Wow I cannot possibly imagine why

Roids are just the tool of the field. Just they seem evil cuz they are "cheating" and involve sticking yourself with needles.

>hey im a surgeon and I use surgical tools
>OMFG CHEATER

>>40018953

>natT is a good example of natty

He looks objectively great, and he is very vascular.

> i dont expect any of them to get below 10% BF ever simply becuase the wheight loss needed for that would deflate there glycogen stores and cut the muslces off of there body(easy to recoup after).

They are all chilling at like 15%+, I am at like 12% (I thought it was closer to 15%, however, after shaving, it seems petty obvious I'm not as fat as I thought I was) and I have noticed no performance issues or anything.

No reason for them to be that chunky other than that they are just seals, they aren't bodybuilders lol, these guys are not counting their macros and weighing their food.

I look forward to seeing what kind of problems/issues I have at 8% as a natty.

I've heard tales of erectile dysfunction, and some people say they have no ED problems at all.

natty is what, 8.5%-8%, and he doesn't report ED, so maybe it is not 100% of people.

I've sort of decided I just want to cut until I hit 8% and then chill matience for a month before I start bulking, 'recomp' some of my remaining fat into muscle, reset my leptin levels.


Lotus highly recommended that I eat matienence after such a long cut, so I'll heed that advice.

I'm gonna get to 8% and angle my shit hardcore and grab some photos for CBT threads while I am bulking to 10% lol, don't plan to get past that.

>>40019040
your thinking is not healthy
I understand roiding if you compete in some sorts of sport
but roiding to impress people on the internet is a bad thing

>75 mg test susp for 4 weeks

Does this sound good for baby's first cycle?

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>>40018982

Brands? They're just acids. Test Cypionate is supposed to be the best.

>>40013639
> wouldn't use adderall but thats just because I'm not too into opiates

>>40019009

Nah, not in NYC but not far from it. I've been going to a local gym ever since I charge backed Planet Fitness. Not an elitist when it comes to gyms and the local PF let me use their equipment in-correctly and fuck a gym clerk, so why not them?

But hell if they want me to pay $100 after not going for 5 months and they still have been charging $22/mo to my card. They've been taking out $22/mo for 3 months, I walk in there and they say I can't work out because I owe $100. No payment for services not rendered.

>>40019072
Oh shit bro you compete? I got a lifting comp in april, Susp is painful I was told to go prop for my first cycle, waiting on needles now

>>40018974


First of all, there are very minor and nominal health detriments. Probably less bad for you than the EC I take, yeah yeah, whatever, but still, it's not like every natty out there is taking EC and shit.

Second of all, once you start pinning, it is very easy for people to disqualify your progress with

>roiding for this.

All they have to do is post a photo of ronnie coleman and say 'you think you did good?'

I will never have to deal with that.

The primary reason I'm lifting in first place is a hobby, this thread, post progress in CBT.

I don't need to be 220 lbs and dwarf everyone IRL, I don't see the benefit really, if you want to do so, I won't disparage you for roiding to do it, whatever.

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>>40019098
Fuck no, do not compete. I just want to put on some mass. Only ever plan to run one single cycle. I have options available.

>Could someone even just point me to good literature for someone wanting to recover from a back injury/speed up process?

>>40019078
>that pic
end my life mossad.
Just send my house 1000 hellfire missilles.
Find where I live by your superior hacking skills and shoot me in the face with a shotgun.

>>40019115
I am lmaoing at ur life.

>>40019115
Lol in that case I heard long esters are the way to go, less amounts of pinning and less pain from what I heard

I'm a skinny guy with self harm scars on my left deltoid, but I want to wear a tank top. Can I get away with it?

>>40019141
Can you show a pic?

>>40019141
you could throw some KT tape on it if you're self conscious, most people won't really care about the scars anyway

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>>40019129
Same, but want to speed up the process of recovery.

>>40019133
ty

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>>40018944
Thanks bro ill hit up the tren/test an save some cash
Only other question is now that i have a small shrinking gyno lump should i run ai from day one or week 5 of the cycle?

>>40018974
>not telling
Not catch, i beat someone to the point of multiple fractures and a hospital stay ten years ago and ran off before they could indict me so the charge was felony bodily injury
Texas wouldnt pay to extradite for ten years but i guess around election season they decided to do a nationwide "roundup" which consisted of me being arested in california and being driven from state to state on a private transport van over the course of 3 weeks. I sat in a county jail in texas for a couple months and was offered 10 yrs probation, so im out now

>>40019175
Dude if the shrinking have stopped long before I have bad news for you.

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>>40019198
It grew from nothing to the size of half a walnut and was visible, i still had a lot of deca and test in my system then, now its much smaller and almost totally flat, not detectable to the eyes, only way i know its there is by feeling it
I dont really care about it but i dont want it to inflame again when i go back on