enhanced or natural?

>>40007891
I am always up for roid shaming, but you can't really tell from this picture. Post more

>>40007891
pretty average back op

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OP here, this is from his instagram, 6 years progress he claims

>>40007944
He's natty don't be a jelly faggot

>>40007944
huh, still can't tell from top genetics or roider, but probably roider since the vast majority of people doesn't have the combo willpower + genetics to achieve that.

will they ever learn?

>>40007970
Then how come you have willpower + genetics but you still look like shit?

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>>40007970

Yeah, look, calves looking oiled up as hell also

>>40008012
Those look like normal calves familam.He looks natty as fuck, raise your standards.

>>40008012
>>40007944
>>40007891
>6 years
Holy fuck, you're retarded if you think he's roiding

roids? doesnt even look like he lifts

>>40007891
Looks completely natural OP. Stop being gay.

weight ?

>>40007891
He's natty.

>>40007891
>>40007944

>big head
>probably short
I say he's natty, come on man, that wouldnt' look out of place even on a tall guy.

Jesus OP

Just gear up already

Maybe some test will make you less of an insufferably jelly beta

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god tier genetics ab-wise on his IG, looks like he might be using clen or diuretics for cutting, but roids? meh

>>40008049
Lol so much this. There were natty kids in my HS bigger than that.

>>40008096
says 183cm on his IG

>>40008117
that is not lean enough to necessitate clen or diuretics

there is no point in speculating because you will never know unless he admits it or is drug tested

how long has he been lifting and how long have you been lifting?

>>40008117
Just good genetics with a pump while being bretti lean from what I can tell. Natty for sure.

>>40007891
You asked a dude at the gym if you could take a picture of him? so you could post it on 4chan?

Note: it's just as weird if you took it from his fb or insta.

>>40007891
Looks like he has a roast chicken on his back.

>>40008372
roast chicken back is the natty limit

>>40008127
So probably 173cm irl.

>>40007891
this is totally achievable naturally, dude just has a really small waist