My starting proportions.
6', 180, 12%-15%. Chest, 42, waist 32, thigh 25.
Since I don't intend to use drugs, and since I already have a relatively large frame, I won't fill out clothes too much more right? If I give my fitted clothes say 2 inches of slack on circumference, will that be adequate growth room?
If it helps, my ideal endpoint would be something like 200-205 8%-10%.
>>39983959
>>39983980
>I don't intend to use drugs
>my ideal endpoint would be something like 200-205 8%-10%
>>39985716
You're bad at math. Let's use the most conservative numbers in the range. 180 at 15% is 153LBM. 200 at 10% is 180LBM. Gaining 27lbs of muscle doesn't require drugs. Also keep in mind I said getting fit again, newb regains haven't even been applied yet. As for staying lean, it's not a bad ballpark figure to add 50% more muscle needed that will be lost when getting lean. The total numbers are still nothing crazy.
Yeah man 200 at 10% is 10 whole lbs lighter than Serge Nubret, totally possible natty.
>>39986232
Realistically he's probably more like 20% br right now. And at his end goal he'll be like 15%
All you idiots ignoring the original question. I understand though. Even though this is the fitness board, barely anyone on this board is anywhere near fit. Most of you don't even exercise and come here to meme about fitness. You're a bunch of talkers, not doers. Whenever someone actually does something, you try to nitpick and make them look bad to feel better about your own inadequacies.
>>39987013
1. That guy is listed at 220. 2. Leaner than 10%. 3. One of the top bodybuilders so has best possible bone structure and muscle insertions making him look even better.
A completely intellectually dishonest example but again, I get it. You don't care about the facts of the case. You'll just take any ammo you can get to nitpick because it's crucial to your self esteem.
>>39987029
10 inch drop and 20%. Yeah ok. You're grasping for straws even harder than the last guy.