/plg/ - powerlifting general

first for actual pl discussions

Frog unironically thinks its possible for him to break all 3 subjunior records by april and it could actually be possible

We might have the ultimate talent chad here

>inb4 subjunior is a meme

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So multiple people - of unknown knowledge and skill, it should be mentioned - have insisted to me that because the hamstrings are a two-part muscle, you WILL develop imbalances without a knee flexion exercise, including but not limited to leg curls and GHRs.

This means that while hamstring-driven hip extension is necessary, it is not sufficient for avoiding injury or having a balanced routine.

Thoughts? For the record I am unsure.

>>39977241
how close is he? kinda wish him luck but kinda hope he doesnt so i dont feel so bad about my medicrioty lmao

>>39977251
His lifts are around 230/120/245(?)

and records are 250/142/250 so he's pretty close

I don't think the bench is possible in 4 months but he seems confident so idk

>>39977250
no thoughts, just saying that leg curls are a goat exercise for end of session ham work

>>39977269
if he's that close then he should get diddly, might get skwat but yh bench will be a grind. gl froggo if you see this <3

It'sss almmmossstt timmmmee to fuckkkkkkkk

Life pro tip: pair up with someone you're sexually compatible with and your relationship will be pretty good at absolute worst.

>>39977283
He's cutting now which makes it even more unlikely, if he gets it I might kms out of embarrassment

>>39977301
can confirm dating someone with a vastly different libido to you sucks

>>39977301
>>39977306

can also confirm dating people with lower libido sucks

I'm a once a day type and at best she's every other day.

>>39977241

He has the best coach of plg, so all he has to do is not die like hancott.

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>>39977218

>tfw you like everyone in that picture

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Hey guys, how can I get freaky strong like the big guys at my gym?

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>>39977311
Being the lower libido sucks too. I was the once a day type but she wanted it multiple times a day, every day. I just couldn't keep up and I felt pretty bad all the time. We found a compromise though

>>39977325
he needs a lot more than that. Sheiko recommends 5% jumps but he'd have to do a 20% jump in one cycle (and a bit) while already having an ok bench

Impossible for a deadend, frogs gotta ascend to beyond bryce

>>39977346
>liking dead people
:thinking:

>>39977374

>lith confirmed for cuckold

our compromise is that I get a handy or fap

>>39977374
Your problem was probably that you just aren't into pussy. Don't worry lad, you'll figure it out some day.

>>39977374
If I remember your girlfriend is underage.

So dont worry, in a few years she will be down to once every two weeks.

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>>39977388
nah compromise was I learned to fuck more

>>39977391
>cum inside girl once a day 365
>dont like pussy

>>39977374
Every day? What level of meme is this

>>39977421
Teenage heat.

Just got my braces off and my teeth are disgustingly fucked

All my self confidence has just been shattered

Thinking of getting drunk and jumping under a train

>>39977346
I'm so fucking depressed but this picture really helped

>>39977397
>le unsubstantiated boasting

can you get caught for prednisone on a drugs test at a meet?

according to candito's video with bret cont contreras, sumo deadlift develops the glutes about as much as the conventional, but does anyone know about the upper back, the core and the hamstrings?

>>39977250

Well hammies are hip extensors and knee flexors, so if you ignore one its roles it'll likely end up causing problems down the line. Adding in some leg curls or GHR is an easy addition that'll keep em healthy. Plus most people need more hamstring work anyways.

>>39977487

Less/less/roughly equal, to my knowledge.

>>39977490

ye but the knee flexor component is trained isometrically, the discussion is probably more along the lines of asking if that's enough. My gym only has somewhere to do nordic curls, can't do GHR or leg curls (shitty gym)

>>39977487
is this a newish video? link?

>>39977250

Makes some sense. The big issue is that one of the four hamstring heads is solely a knee flexor since it inserts below the hip joint, so it gets basically no work from hip extension. It's also the one that tends to be most involved in knee stabilisation.

So while not necessary, it's probably in the same category as remembering to do your curls for elbow health.

>>39977506

that's basically the conclusion I've arrived at too. Oddly this seems to be very infrequently discussed when people talk about knee health though (in my experience anyway having researched that shit for years after my surgery)

>>39977491
could it be possible that a stance as narrow as possible (semi sumo) be better for muscle building? I know that I won't lift the most weight that way, but this is not what my goal is anyway

>>39977505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4pAkyeU17s

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>>39977514
>2014

cmon candito its been almost a year

>>39977527
well he's posting on insta and twitter all the time lately

>>39977514

Honestly, for muscle building I'd have to think that some sort of RDL would be a better bet than regular deadlifts with either stance.

Anybody here really lonely?

How did you combat loneliness?

>>39977569
plg discord

>>39977572
I'd rather be lonely

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>>39977569
I got numb to it.

Also internet friends are a good way to fake having real friends.

>>39977578
How long did it take to get numb?

>>39977445
rasputin?

>>39977397

I go to work most days, doesn't mean I like it.

>>39977582
Id say 2 years. That wasnt a fun 2 years by the way.
I think you should work on being more social instead of suffering those years.

IN THE NAVY

YOU CAN SAIL THE SEVEN SEAS

IN THE NAVY

YOU CAN YOUR MIND AT EASE

IN THE NAVY

COME ON PROTECT YOUR MOTHERLAND

IN THE NAVY

COME ON JOIN YOUR FELLOW MAN

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>>39977600
>non-mandatory military service
>still joins the military

>>39977592
Got any stories over those 2 years?

>>39977608

I thought the song reference was quite obvious about it. Trading semen with seamen.

>>39977610
No, I just sat at home playing video games, browsing 4chan and going to the gym.

>>39977614
You just ruined the song for me............

I DID NOT SEE IT THST WAY

>tfw grip is the limiting factor in your deadlift

what do
I already chalk and mixed grip when double overhand gives out, can't into hook grip becase tiny hands (or because I don't get it)

>>39977622
Great... I would play vidya but I don't want to drop $500 on a console and games.

So all I've got is lifting and 4chan, and I've only got plg, but it just doesn't cut it anymore.
Now I'm really lonely.

>>39977639
if you have money go to a club and fuck some bitches. if you don't, go work to make money (in the process make friends) and then fuck bitches in clubs. not really complicated

>>39977639
I was also studying full time and that helped to reduce the time with my own thoughts.

>>39977636
Hold the last rep of every set for 10-15 seconds
Static holds
Don't do DOH until it gives out, you're just tiring yourself out for no returns.

>>39977658
DOH ?

>>39977662
Mixed grip + Hook grip + straps

>>39977658
So you're saying I should mixed grip from the start, then on the last rep change to DOH and hold it?

>>39977704
Just do double overhand on all your accessories, and on every warm up set you can DoH, then do mixed grip on sets you can't double overhand.
Hold the last rep of all your deadlift sets for about 10 seconds

>>39977639

m8 I am fully planning to enjoy the next year by renting a high rise apartment downtown, going to the nearby gym after work, and coming home to dank music, ps4, and relaxing in the hot tub. Most of it will be alone, but I'm in meetings all day anyway so I don't think I'll mind.

>>39977722
That's very nice, and I wish you well, but I've been alone for a long time and it's taken its toll on me.

>>39977734

there are a few ways in my experience to make friends when you don't really have any (e.g. moving to new city)

1. join a small-ish gym built around, e.g. powerlifting, where you'll see the same regulars. You can then hang out with them. First it's grabbing lunch after lifting on Saturdays, then maybe going out for kbbq after work, then laser tag or some shit

2. join a sports team or club. This is enforced cameraderie

3. go back to university and live in a share house (or just live in a share house)

>>39977747
It's more that I can't leave my current friend group, and I dislike all of them. I'm in my finals years of school, and I'm stuck with friends I made when I was desperate.

I can't leave, there's nobody else to go to, and they wouldn't leave me alone if one day I just got up and tried to leave.

I hate most of them so much though

>>39977759

hang out with them less and less, then. Eventually 'breaking up' becomes easy because you barely see them anymore. Plus, it's pretty easy to just go hang out with other people in the ways I mentioned without leaving a friends group

>>39977772
I don't want to keep coming up with excuses for your advice, but I just don't know I'd do that realistically as we share classes (which are very small), and all other friend groups are closed off at this stage of life.

>>39977789
>all other friend groups are closed off at this stage of life.
yes, they are closed to whiny little bitches. you realize that people move to new cities all the time and make new social networks all the time, right?

>>39977805
But I'm not new? I've already made a name for myself?
It's hard to get across my meaning, but I've looked over these solutions already and there's just so many complications.

>>39977815
Go volunteer and fuck SJWs with colored hair.

>>39977833
lol ok

>>39977600

>IN THE NAVY
>COME ON YOUR FELLOW MAN

Fixed

>>39977789

Join your school's rugby club.

If your school doesn't have a rugby club, go to a different school.

Everyone in the club will be your friend, you will hate all of them for the stupid shit they do and get you into, but you'll be too drunk and concussed to give a shit.

>tfw I know everything but I'm too lazy too use all the information

Anyone know if there's any real difference in sizing between Adipowers and Powerlift 2? There's a sale fo Adipowers rn, but they only have half a size below my current shoes. You think I'm g2g still?

>>39977845
That's what I did.

>>39977973
Does sex make you happy or does it make you feel used up?

>>39977997
It makes me feel like crying and killing myself.

>>39977704
>then on the last rep change to DOH and hold it?
No, do mixed grip on all your deadlifts. You'll always be weaker with double overhand and it's not worth training it specifically.

>>39978012
Yeah I don't want to have sex as a cure for my depression desu

>>39978020

It's worth using on volume work, at least some of the time.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w9PFOXAA4GE

The word for not changing is death

>>39978020

but double overhand makes your mixed grip stronger anyway and its looks nice

overhand = art

miged grip = fucking barbarian

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>>39978371
>looks nice

>>39978383

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tin0UUUo0PI

deadlifting overhand is artttttttttt

>>39977636
>tfw grip is the limiting factor in your deadlift

>what do
Weighted chin ups + heavy barbell rows.

Static hold aren't that great.

>>39978529
long farmers walks

>>39978637
>long farmers walks
Great for conditioning and training the farmer walk.

IMO, training grip while also activating the musculature of the back seems more effective for my own DL strength. I pull 600 el bees.

My back has started rounding on the deadlifts and I can't fix it reeeee
I'm deadlifting correctly, but I can NOT stop the rounding no matter what I do.

this has just started happening?

Reeee I PRd with a rounded back and now it feels like shit

>pulled a rounded back PR
>jumped around like blueshoes after
>back now feels shitty
>telling nobody because plg is dead


Reeeeeeeee

>>39978529

Supersetting a pull with a static hold is how I increased my grip strength, which used to be shit.

Want to KMS

>>39978721
>>39978781
just keep your back straight bro

>>39977374
kek I thought this pic was supposed to be duffin

Into dominance porn lads
Get really turned on over feeling a woman's body while she submissively blows you

>>39977250
I'll just say that it seems logical to me, and in line with the idea that pulling and pressing in multiple directions will keep the shoulders healthier compared to only e.g. bench and pullups would.

This was also the reason Avon considered dropping GHRs in favour of hip extension exercises too, way back when. His rationale was that it would help his powerlifts more. Don't know what he eventually did, tho.

>>39978952
Ok very interesting, most people.

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>>39978721
>>39978781
>>39977636

Do a program focused on volume instead of intensity. Handle weights you can handle with perfect form for a fuckton of sets. Get strong, get huge. PR with perfect form.
(sheiko)

Same advise for improving grip strength.

>>39977953

Same thing afaik, though the PL3 is wider.

>>39977487

These numbers are coming off the top of my head, but from what I recall the main differences are the sumo engages 30% less spinal erectors and 15% more quads.
The rest is pretty much the same.

>>39977346

I like you as well bby anon <3

>>39978812

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlOeGeVih4

>>39978952

iktf that's my fav
I'm more vanilla though, not actually very much into BSDM

>>39977269
>>39977283
>>39977306
>>39977374
The records are not 250/142/250 its 227.5/140/247.5

My goal is 250/142/250 but that would be a dream at best

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>>39979070
its here

>>39977218
i rape u mom fag boy

>>39978952
Oh you're into BDSM are you?

http://imgur.com/a/9YDU7

This is what "I'm into BDSM" looks like

>>39977497
>ye but the knee flexor component is trained isometrically, the discussion is probably more along the lines of asking if that's enough.
To the best of my knowledge, isometric training does very little for strength and hypertrophy. I have a pic about isometric holds and how they transfer to strength in that position, but not on this computer, and it's not really the isometric you're talking about, I guess.
>>39977514
Overthinking it kinda. I really doubt you'll notice a difference, and if the rest of your leg, core and back work is smart you shouldn't worry about it, imho. Use whatever technique you are better at.
>>39979131
How is OCDBro doing?

>>39979131
WHAT THE FUCK

He's not serious, right?

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>>39977250

I wish I had access to a MRI and get a professor to supervise the study needed to solve this.

The thing is, hip extension trains all the hamstring muscles - biceps, semimembranosus, semitendinosus, adductor. So in theory there's no need to train knee flexion as well, just like you can train your chest exclusively with transverse flexion and no adduction and still have all results you can.

However, as we know, the short head of the biceps doesn't go all the way to the hips. It only performs knee flexion. And since it has its own innervation, it isn't very active in deadlifts and squats besides stabilizing.

But, even though it's a separate head, it's still the same muscle. And we know that just by training the triceps in one of your arms, the other arm will grow as well to some extent. Since it's still the same muscle, the expectation is that the short head will see substantial growth and strengthening even though it's never trained directly.

This means that, in theory, the short head of the biceps can be weaker and smaller if you never train knee flexion... Or maybe not. Or maybe the difference exists but it's small. We don't know for certain.

What we know is that training hip extension only is sufficient to avoid most injuries, including the most common sprinting injuries (as they happen mainly to the long head of the biceps). Hip extensions is pretty much the main functions of all hamstrings except the short head of the biceps, so in theory training only hip extension might (or might not) make them overall grow more and be stronger.

---------------------------------

BUUUUUUUT, that is only the tip of the iceberg my dudes (as if we didn't have enough unknown information on this).

The thing is, even during exercises of knee extension and hip extension, the hamstrings are "performing knee flexion". Actually, they're performing KNEE EXTENSION, with the same tendons and non-spanning muscle fibres involved in doing knee flexion. (continuing next post)

>>39979204
He has 100% done everything he's said and he has posted pictures (even when unasked) to prove it.

I never even wanted to see the results of some of that battery.

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>>39979204
It's all real and he's posted plenty of proof unfortunately.

>>39979153
>How is OCDBro doing?
He is in perpetual WAKE ME UP INSIDE but he always has a young hot gf on the go

>life hit all time low
>went and got a haircut
>feel good now

Weird

>>39977250
>>39979221
literally none of this matters.

if you're a powerlifter, do lots of hip extension work (you're not using the hamstrings to curl your knee at all, and if you are it's counterproductive). a bit of leg curling work is fine too just for muscular growth. but it's not specific.

you won't get injured from not doing leg curls. don't worry.

if you're a bodybuilder, I'd reccomend doing both to work the hamstrings from both ends. I am CERTAIN that curling the knee vs extending the hip will have different demands on the heads of the hamstrings for each. trust me. and the short head of the biceps femoris will probably be left untouched.

powerlifter > don't worry about it. do leg curls if you want. I'd worry about doing too much leg curling over anything.

bodybuilder > do leg curls, asshole.

I want to have sex with a certain swede.

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>>39977250
>>39979221

(continuing the crazy shit)

This is due to what we call "passive tendon action", which allows what we call "Lombard Paradox" to happen in motions of knee+hip extensions like squats.

Basically what it says is:
If a two-joint muscle A is paired by a reverse two-joint muscle B...
(A=extension X, flexion Y)
(B=flexion X, extension Y)

... And A has a stronger moment arm at joint X than on joint Y, and B has a stronger moment arm at joint Y than on joint X, those muscles can work together in a way that muscle A (and B) can perform the inverse function in the joint Y (X for B).

Let me try to explain again,
Hamstrings are a two-joint muscle, and their pair, the Rectus Femoris, is also a two-joint muscle.
The hamstrings are stronger hip extensors than knee flexors.
RFs are stronger knee extensors than hip flexors.

That means that when the hamstrings and the RF work together in a movement that requires extension at both joints, like squat or deadlift, the hamstrings perform KNEE EXTENSION and the RF performs HIP EXTENSION, due to them having the weaker moment arm at that joints - thus being affected by the passive tendon action of both of the muscles.
(pic related)

So you ARE training "knee flexion strength" of the hamstrings when you squat and deadlift, paradoxically enough.

Now we get to the next mystery...

Even though the Biceps is a single muscle, the short head is a single-joint muscle. Theoretically, it shouldn't be affected by the Paradox, and thus cannot perform knee extension.
But the truth is, we haven't had conclusive information on this.

Can the short head perform knee extension torque despite not being two-jointed, simply for being the same muscle as the long head which is two-jointed?

What we know is, with EMG (which is NOT VERY ACCURATE AT ALL BTW) we know that the short head IS ACTIVE to some extent. Is this simply stabilization? Is this the body working against itself? Or is it helping knee extension?

Who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm a virgin and I really want to have sex but I'm scared I'll feel used and disgusted with myself after.

I also have a maddona-whore complex

What do

>>39979221
and are you saying if I train my left tricep my right tricep will grow???

>>39979276
forgot mine trip xD

>>39979308
there is no reason to believe it helps.

>>39979222
dost his dox on /pol/. This degeneracy can not be accepted.

>>39979255
Still working on his physiotherapist education tho?
Also wtf at that BDSM dude.

>>39979311
get drunk and fuck an average looking slag

you will learn that sex is not a big deal

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>>39979276

All of this matters to a big extent, are you kidding me?

Information on these things has been changing the way we train all the time.

The more information we have, the better the training can be. The better the training can be, the more results and less injuries we should have.

If we never try to explain these things and learn how they work, we will never be able to truly UNDERSTAND TRAINING ITSELF!

You might dismiss this with "this is only 4chan lmao what does it matter". But what you would be missing is that here on this very general we have people on the cutting edge of both competitive lifting and when it comes to science of lifting and training theory.
Some of these people we share the space with have been changing the landscape of training and of powerlifting competitions already.

I won't name names, but I'm not speaking lightly when I affirm this.

>>39979316

Yes this has literally been proven by studies already. Not the same amount of growth, but it will. iirc it's something around 30-40% the growth of the other side.

>>39979328

k except everything that I wrote

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>have tight lower back yesterday
>skills test is today
>wake up at my usual time
>decide to sleep for an extra 4 hours due to no classes
>back pain/tightness completely gone
Who else /genius/ here?

What does being strong feel like?

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>>39979131

>>39979381
The same as being weak

>>39979344
a) simply explain to me how this has any practical implication on training. do leg curls once and a while, sure.

b) I'd like a link to those studies please. and I'm not sure why you're using this as reasoning. you're saying "if you train your left tricep, your right tricep will grow, so if you train your hamstring in hip extension, and even if only 3/4 of the heads are used, the 4th head will grow" which makes very little sense.

c) I wrote this out and it got erased. I'll just sum it.up:

what you're saying has no.fucking value, except for.fivomg biomechanics nerds something to jerk off. too. do leg curls every once and a while. yippee!

>>39979423
I tend to agree with mr. jacques blueshoes here.

Training isnt rocket appliances. In the end its very simple and overcomplicating things is useless.

Of course if you enjoy discussing shit like that, sure go for it.

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>>39979381

You will never BE strong. You will always feel like you're weak. In fact, the stronger you get the weaker you feel like you are.

Just listen to every interview ever with elite athletes lmao.

>>39979423
>>39979439


>simply explain to me how this has any practical implication on training

Some of the people here are on the cutting edge of strength training theory. These people have already been directly responsible for training methods to start changing in the past few years and specially nowadays.

It might not have a direct implication to you, but it will have an implication to the science people, and the science people have an implication on how you train.

>I'd like a link

Literally two seconds on scholar.google.com

>has no fucking value

Except some of the things discussed here on /fit/ have already been affecting some of the big websites that people go to when they want to know why and how they should train.

Dismiss all you want, but as I said, some of the people that post here are at the very top of competitive powerlifting and at the very cutting edge of strength training theory.

Why does blueshoes identify as Belgian now? As a citizen of this non-country I feel insulted.

>/plg/ -- your home for cutting edge strength training theory

Can you add that to the OP, please

>>39979450
>being upset that a god tier poster identifies with your shit tier meme country
I hope you guys get bombed by kebabs again

>>39979456

I'd be happy to ;)

>>39979468
Me too. Any terrorist attacks will always be Brussels and Antwerp and they deserve to get razed to the ground for having so many shitskins.
>Borgerhout aka Borgerocco
>Molenbeek
>Schaarbeek
>Anderlecht
Somebody nuke my country already.

>>39979487
Now apologize to blueshoes

>>39979487
>tfw our country is going to shit and nobody's doing anything about it, let alone acknowledge it

Where we gonna go breh?

>>39979494
Only if he makes one of his autistic videos about terrorism.

>>39979450
>Belgian
>doesn't know what Belgian Blue is

Sterf

>>39979335
lel he wishes. Sport science lmao

Why were squat, bench and deadlift chosen as the three powerlifts? Are there any special physiological reasons, or was it just arbitrary?

>>39979509
Google says it's cattle?

Waarom de neuk zou ik da weten? Kankerboeren in mijn draad.

>>39979511
They're the three most popular lifts outside of weightliftin

Way back when, there was weighlifting, the sport. Some people held for-fun competitions where they did the 'odd lifts' usually featuring back squat, dead lift, bench press and the curl but could be anything. The SBD were the most popular and so whole federations started to cater to people who wanted to do those lifts, but not weightlifting itself.

>>39979510
Could be worse.
The lad could get a physics degree and end up unemployed and dependent on his dad at age 23

>>39979546
Even worse, he could date a meth head.

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>>39979526
>Most jacked cattle in the world
>Why should I know

2casual4me

>>39979558
I mean as long as the meth head isn't incredibly ugly or fucks black guys I can forgive it.

>>39979565
poor dude

>>39979447
you literally said nothing

all you said was 'I'm right you're wrong' and 'Google it', and it took you 3 paragraphs to do so

nice one

no wonder you're going to be a practicing physician and not a researcher, you can't into science, fucking idiot

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>>39979593

>you literally said nothing

Here >>39979221 >>39979308

If you're too lazy to read the posts don't blame it on me.

>and 'Google it'

Yes, google the unrelated article that you want to see. Takes 3 seconds. Again don't blame your laziness on me.

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>>39977569
Lifting and talking to internet friends.

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hmm...

>>39979689
How did your brother end up so socially successful and attractive and you ended up like... Well you

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>>39979689
Eg har ingen venner heller Filip... Også er eg ikkje sterk ein gong heller...

>>39979447

>Some of the people here are on the cutting edge of strength training theory. These people have already been directly responsible for training methods to start changing in the past few years and specially nowadays.

You are beyond delusional.

Some youtubers lurk here for content, but don't pretend that "do sheiko" is forwarding exercise science.

>>39979791

>some youtubers

Oh sweet summer child...

>>39979668
no

in the post i was replying too you literally said nothing

le burden of proof is on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calling yourself "at the cutting edge of strength theory" when all you do is google studies other people have written is a bit pretentious.

Come on now.

LISTEN
the hamstrongs extend the knee

and quads extond the hip

waaaaaaaah???????

yes i knoqw

your teacher say: quad extend knee and hamstring extend hip when you squat.

waaaaaaaaah???????

but now they do the OPPOSITE

its true

abs also extend the lower back

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah????????????????

trust me its very scientifical... but it has to do with the tendon lengths, moment arms, bone structre, dunning-kruger effect, the lombardon paradoxical effect, and voodoo... trust me

the africans knew all about this..... science must decolonize... trust me, i am brazil doctor. thanks!

>>39979857
Thanks for the laugh blueshoes, I apologize for my previous comment earlier in the thread.

>>39979821
Good response, "cunt."

I'm sure exercise scientists are taking careful note here of all the sub 4 plate deadlifters, the beginners burning out on sheiko, and the spammed images of animated children with panty bulges.

>>39979668
are you going to hide your cock when you compete in april and have to wear a suit?

>>39979880
and what comment was that................

better not just tell me to google it...

>>39979908
they use duct tape i think to tape it inside their asshole

WHO KILLED MINE GENRAL?!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?1?!?

new video........ mainly just havin' a chat. talk about my life.

thanks. its an bit long but worth every second

https://youtu.be/LIrob1pH4U0

new video........ mainly just havin' a chat. talk about my life.

thanks. its an bit long but worth every second

>>39979853

>yourself

I kind of appreciate that you think of me when you read "cutting edge strength theory", but I wasn't talking about myself.

>>39979857
>>39979839
>>39979910

See pic related >>39979308

It's all explained there in depth. So much depth that you probably won't understand it, really.

Now if you tell me I'm not explaining you, I'll just start to ignore your posts again.

>>39979908

Coaches don't wear singlets. And I don't think you have to wear an actual suit, just regular clothes is fine.

But yes, I tuck my benis just like every girl like myself.

>>39979853

And btw, metastudies are a very important part of science. Don't dismiss them, things would be a mess otherwise.

>>39980132
where are you published again?

whats good 3x per week powerlifting for intermediate betwen advanced liftrer

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>>39979344
>Some of these people we share the space with have been changing the landscape of training and of powerlifting competitions already.

Can someone a)corroborate this and b) give one example of how something that was said in /plg/ has changed training protocols and/or pl competitions?

>>39980178
>sheiko

>>39980186
Mike T used to trip here under the name "Marcel", Faceguy is also either CYC or Kjell Egil Bakkelund, we haven't quite decided.

>>39980192
ok

>>39980199
you are welcome, please remember to credit your success to mr anon

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>>39980194
>Marcel will never come back
:(((

>>39980194

>Mike T. = Marcel

But Mike T. pulls conventional and Marcel pulls sumo.

>>39980244
diversion tactic, idiot

>25 minutes until I leave to do skills test
SEND ME YOUR POWER LADS

>>39980244
I bet you believe that CYC is actually cutting too

>>39980257
Good luck friendo

>>39980106
Why aren't you using your regular trip?

>It's all explained there in depth. So much depth that you probably won't understand it, really.
Why be such a condescending cunt? Either answer, or ignore.

>But yes, I tuck my benis just like every girl like myself.
Why even acknowledge these posts?

If you are really a girl, then stop taking about your dick. Otherwise, it comes of as masochistically attention whorey.

Just here to help. You may not be aware that you are insufferable and lack basic humility.

>lifting
Front squats, close grip bench, bb rows, ohp today.

>>39980257
Goals?

>>39980178
DUP self made.
531 3 day for powerlifting
28 Free
RTS self made.
Sheiko.

>>39980343
180/115/215

>>39980373
Actually let's say 170/110/215, don't want to jinx it

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GET GOD ON THE PHONE

>>39980330
Damnit lith stop ruining the thread

>>39980220
What does this stretch work?

I am so depressed
So alone
So disappointed
Don't want to be alive

>have to wear a retainer day and night for up to 4 years
I want to die

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>>39980194
>>Mike T used to trip here under the name "Marcel",
>mfw 99% certain I started that meme

so aloneeeee

Come back and post on plg again ;-; everyone

Plssss

>>39980657
>have to

you dont have to do anything

>>39980747
If I ever want a chance at sexually reproducing, I sure fuckin do.

>>39980399
>>39980373

Let us know how it goes lad. Good luck.

>>39980608
T-spine mobility.

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>>39980330

>Why be such a condescending cunt?

Mate, I have been dealing with blueshoes for like 8 months at this point?
You have no idea.

>If you are really a girl, then stop taking about your dick.

I am really a girl. I also have a dick. I'm not gonna act like I hate who I am just because you think I should.

>attention whorey

Meaningless buzzword.

>Just here to help. You may not be aware that you are insufferable and lack basic humility.

You may want to get some context into the community before trying to judge people.
You're saying I'm condescending for dealing with blueshoes for like 5 posts?
Do you have any idea how many people in this community have this kind of patience?
95% of the people either treat blueshoes like an actual retard or want him to kill himself.
I've gone through all of it. From when he argued with me about stupid stuff, when I helped him with injuries and treated him like a regular human bean, when he started sending underage pornographic videos of himself which included death threats, to when he started spamming the threads and making everyone want to leave.
And still I treat him like an actual person despite his relentless attempt to be seen as a retarded psycho.

You just came in here and you think you know shit.
Think you can pass your judgement unto others.

Laughing
My
Fucking
Arse
Off

>>39980186

The people who know have personally been asked not to disclose any of this info.
We can only confirm that it is in fact real. Or maybe it's not.

Forget I even said anything about it.

Depressed.

its a good feel when your lifts are going up as planned. Confidently putting 2.5kilo on my lifts every week.

COME AT BE BRO

>>39981074
>mad
>at blueshoes of all people

for what purpose?

chill the fuck out and learn to block out the negative comments already. you giving them high effort responses ruins this general because it encourages the trolling even more

chill the heck out lad

>>39977572
link?

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>>39981077

Like minimalistic art?

>>39981093

Good job senpai, keep it up.

>>39981110

>me
>mad at blueshoes

lol?

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>>39977218
Who is the girl on first line third column?

Asking for a friend.

>>39981122
>>me
>>mad at blueshoes

i mean

you wrote a wall of text about him

I am depressed and lonely.

>>39981074
Stop acting like an old fag when you've been here like a year maybe

>>39981127
Benchbro

>>39981074
>there are people who agree with me on something
>but you can't ask them it's secret
>but i promise I'm right

>>39981074
you werewnt helpful btw

and im the most liked trip on plg, at least liked more than you

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>>39981156
I suspect that's not the case.

>>39981122
THANK YOU

>>39981074
>arguing about stupid stuff
but isn't that what like to do best? LOL

My name is Anon, and I stand with blueshoes.

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>>39981074
>The people who know have personally been asked not to disclose any of this info.
>We can only confirm that it is in fact real. Or maybe it's not.

OK. I don't disbelieve you as such, but you must realise from my perspective your initial comment

>Some of these people we share the space with have been changing the landscape of training and of powerlifting competitions already.

seems highly made up or highly exaggerated, and this response doesn't help things. I wanted to ask you something PL related too - my program has SLDL in them and I don't really like them, would subbing them for RDL be good?

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>>39981144

I didn't know writing about someone means you're mad.

>>39981154

It's not about the status. I couldn't care less if someone is new or not, as long as they don't start throwing judgement at people or things they don't know while riding their high horse.

>>39981162

It was a lie, let it go.

>>39981164

Not my fault your body is so dysfunctional. At least I gave it a try.

>>39981179

I enjoy discussions and discourse, specially those were people have different opinions on a subject. That's when you get to learn new things the most around here.

Arguing just makes me bored, and it's so inelegant.

>>39981226

RDLs or TNGDL are much better. SLDLs are a meme imo. Just not a comfortable lift, and difficult to learn how to do it with good form.

And deadlifts already are a primary exercise for the hamstrings. You don't need to try to focus on them even more.
Just my two cents, some people like SLDLs.

>>39981226

Also SLDLs are better avoided if you have SI joint dysfunction.

>>39981226
yes that's fine

i dont think you should do either of them very haevy but especailly not RDL. not hard to injure your back or hamstring doing RDLs very heavy (low reps and close to failure).

i think SLDLs are more specific but i also think they are very awkward. RDLs are a solid excercise to work the hamstrings glutes and low back

I am so depressed

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>>39981293
based bluehoes

>when the combat dreams are hyper-vivid

wew.

>>39981226
>literally less than 10 inch bar distance

boi i am sure triggered

Is there a cutoff for what percentages of my maxes I should stay away from when cutting?

>>39981401
Not really. Train like you would normally. I've dropped weigh on Bulgarian.

>>39981407
Alright, I was thinking of repeating a 5/3/1 cycle and seeing if I could maintain strength as my weight went down.
Thing is my training 1RM has caught up and become more or less my real 1RM, so that would mean lifting in the 95% range on a cut.

>bench south of 80%

Gonna have a hard time with this one.

>>39981434
With 5/3/1, I would be careful to not let your training max exceed 95% of your true/estimated 1RM. But that seems like a decent plan, you're probably not going to add much to your lifts, but you should certainly be able to maintain unless you're dropping a lot of weight.

I would recalculate your TM so that you're reasonably sure you'd be good for three reps on your 1s week, you're going to have to do it sooner or later, better now than when you add 10/5/10 and can't get four on your next 5s week.

>>39981466
Yeah I know, but I'm now one cycle away from a squat PR I've been waiting for so I don't want to roll back or start cutting before I hit it.
I was planning to scale back at some point too, yeah. It's getting taxing to lift to close to my 1RMs often, both mentally and physically. I read Beyond 5/3/1 recently and Wendler was talking about hitting 5-8-10 reps on the last sets, and I kinda realized it's been a while since I was at that point.

>>39981401
just keep workload under control.

>>39981291
what glute-ham stuff should one do instead if they have a sensitive SI?

>>39981291
why's that?

>>39981074
Read your whole response outloud to an empty room.

If you can't hear how hypocritical and cunty you sound, then you need more professional help.

A coach should have better beside manner, especially given your "condition".

Unrelated, but:
Did you read what I linked you regarding calculating and comparing INOL as a training and coaching tool?

Hey lads what weight I should aim at with 170cm?

>tfw still miss her

who is teapot

>>39981854
83 for now, 93 over time, 105 when there's a chance of winning championships

>>39981923
Would that make me into a big guy despite my height?

Who wants to watch me almost puke?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPIvy3HADkA/?taken-by=poutineandtheipf

Is there anything interesting in the ProjectMomentum FB group?

>>39981940
A lean 83 at 5'7" will look athletic in clothes, yeah.

>>39981951
A few people have run it multiple times, I don't fucking have a clue how.

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Lifting today lads

>>39982019
very nice.

>>39981980
Is it bad or what do you mean by "i dont know how"?

>>39979131
>http://imgur.com/a/9YDU7
>fred was here

>>39982044
I mean it had a casualty rate higher than Omaha beach, I don't know how anyone survives multiple runs of it.

>>39982019
Whoa really? Me too. I'm going to be copying that girl's face during deficit sumos.

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>>39982019
Hey when is my wedding invite supposed to arrive in the mail?

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>>39981580

Any other type of Deadlift. :)

>>39981611

When you keep your legs straight, your hamstrings pull your pelvis back - but your pelvis wants to go forward to follow the movement of the sacrum. This causes irritation in the joint of the pelvis and sacrum, aka the Sacroiliac Joint.

Unlocking your knees means your hamstrings have more "space" to go for at the knee joint, and thus they don't pull your pelvis back against the sacrum and spine position.

Not sure if this is easy to visualise, so let me try to make it more sensible:
You hamstrings can stretch to 6. With knees straight, all the 6 is at the hip joint. This pulls the pelvis too much into a bad position for the SI joint.
When you unlock the knees, it can go 4 pelvis 2 knees, or even 3 pelvis 3 knees. So your pelvis doesn't get fucked over.

>>39982019

Have fun Boardie :3

>>39981790

k

>>39981915

Me.

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During power cleans I'm having some trouble with keeping a rigid back and the result is that my back is sore as shit today. Is this just due to me being inexperienced and it'll be easier to keep it tight over time or should I work on flexibility?

Wait are people actually retarded enough to do SLDLs with straight legs and not just a relatively more open knee angle?

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>>39979131
what the fuck am i reading

>>39977218
why do you guys all have disproportionate body shapes? This cant be healthy

>>39982098
oh. I mean i never did entirely straight legged deadlifts I'm not retarded

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>>39982128

Even if you don't lock your knees at the start and have some give there, it can still be bad if you have SIJ issues. And if you give it enough give... you're just deadlifting.

This doesn't mean SLDL CAUSES SIJ issues. Just that it can aggravate for those that have it.

>>39979696

Wait what the fuck

Did that happen this AGDQ?

>>39982098
No one locks their knees doing SLDL lol

>>39977218
whos the speccy girl top right?

>>39982187
He didnt actually sniff the chair. The gif is cut so it seems he is. He was picking something under the chair

>>39982200

Ah okay

Still, who was the hottie at AGDQ?

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>>39982168
>>39982189

This isn't about locking the knees... For someone with SIJ irritation, 5 to 1 might not be enough give. And if you get to 4 to 2 you're just deadlifting.

I only mentioned locking and unlocking to tell what happens biomechanically. I wasn't implying you lock your knees to SLDL (that would be pretty impressive from a flexibility standpoint).

>>39982201

Where the hell have I said I'm trappy-chan?
I'm teapot, not trappy.

Besides, trappy-chan isn't banned.

>>39982216
>5 to 1
>4 to 2

what

>>39982237

Read the previous post...

>>39982097
Would you come out?

>>39982098
Y-yeah just let me finish puking

I am so fucking depressed I feel like my life has hit a dead end

>>39982257
Still dont get it, are you visualizing a clock?

sorry im not as smart as you

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>>39982274
No :(
I just want to feel liked

>>39982303

Me too lad. It's ok, we're going to make it through.

>>39982314

It's okay, Joe, I'll send you one to mine.

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>>39982311

Think about total stretching capacity of the muscle as a simplified number: 6 for example. Could be 8 or 10 or whatever, I just used 6 for no reason.

If the total is 6, and you bend your back, this number would be divided between the attachments at the pelvis and attachments at the knee.

With the knees locked, they get 0 and all the 6 tension goes to the pelvis. As you unlock your knees and give room for the muscle, the knees go to 1 and the pelvis to 5. A normal deadlift would be at 2 and 4 or 3 and 3, for example.

A 6 or 5 at the pelvis can be bad for someone suffering from SI Joint irritation.

>>39982257
are you trappy

I'm so lonely

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>>39982353

No I'm teapot. Nice to meet you.

>>39978371

With hook grip you get the best of both worlds though

Plus you don't have to unlearn anything if you want to oly lift :^)

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>>39980969
>tfw to intelligent to make good estimates
>170/110/210
welp

still +10/+5/+10, not bad at all for a month.

>>39982390

Some people have professions that require sensitivity at their thumbs :P

>mfw clubbed thumbs so cant hookgrip

>>39982400

Not bad for a month at all. What bw?

>>39982433
110 I think, am lanklet and not very lean

>>39982373
can you post a pic of your fist, knee, and elbow please?

could be trappy in disguise

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>>39982339
I expect a multi tiered pizza instead of cake.

>>39982400
That's really not too bad at all senpai. Good job! Might I suggest some of Gregory Nuckols' bench programming?

>>39982523
Tried it, I didn't like it.

Gonna start moving my fingers out though.

I'm depressed and shit posting isn't helping

>>39982412
paul and trappy sitting in a tree

k
i
s
s
i
n
g

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>>39982645

>>39982581
>>39982645
Is this it for you?

Is this all you'll ever do?

>>39982670
Wasn't me, I was masturbating.
>still depressed

>>39982669
Cute :3

So I did half of my Sheiko

Bench 5x3@80% went well, squat 5x3@80 felt like ass. I couldn't do a triple even though I was able to hit triples with the same weight easily Saturday, so I just did singles and doubles to total 15 reps. I blame it on the gym I was working out at today having shitty equipment and my cut. Oh well, I'll get it next time

My name is Anonymohs and I am depressed.

D

E

P

V

R

A

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>>39982645
>>39982669
no baby in a baby carriage though

U

S

>>39982538
>>39982523
I really think I could git gud if I do, I have pinkies at rings now and was super fucking weak off the chest.

Funnily enough though, it seems the only lift I'm really able to grind is bench, both squat and deadlift I either smoked it or outright failed.

M

I am so lonely and depressed why is nobody coming to save me!!!!

>>39982948
im here, now shut the fuck up
do front squats to failure

>>39982924
but there's not way in house for the bench to keep it's stability on chest when you are excercising at incline for the back muscles dont posess stablizing components?

>>39982963
Ughhhh ughhhh but I am not at the gym it's bed time!!

>>39982538
Good luck, hopefully it helps

>>39982924
Bench is the easiest lift to grind imo. Do you do any chest/shoulder accessories?

>>39983069
I do what it says on Sheiko beginner. I have benched very narrow pretty much for as long as I've benched, strong arms but really weak off the chest.

>>39977636
Straps

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>>39982908

D E P P R E S E D
E P P R E S E D D
P P R E S E D D E
P R E S E D D E P
R E S E D D E P R
E S E D D E P R E
S E D D E P R E S
E D D E P R E S E
D E P P R E S E D

depressed

>>39983221

>>39983221

>>39983221

>>39983221

>>39983221

>>39981790

> Read your whole response outloud to an empty room.

that's autistic.

>>39977311
You have it better than most

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Stretches for butt wink?