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Seeing ripped old men is the only reason I even think about wanting to live till MAYBE the 80s(at that point it's pretty much over 99% chance even on all sorts of drugs).

Wonder if it's possible at just a baby 600-700mg test dose though, then again with 50 years of hard blasted muscle memory it should be disproportionally easy to get a ripped physique with less compounds.

>implying i won't die of stroke/heart attack by my 60s, or something totally unrelated like cancer or being attacked by refugees or struck by lightning

>tried to do verification charges for a third time
>same single charge all three times
>support takes ages to reply and keeps asking me if I still need help instead of actually fixing it, which would take like five minutes
Fucking done. No payment method for you, Coinbase.
Is it hard to use one of those wallets that you manage yourself?

>>39967601

>not just using bank transfers

murricans, everyone.

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>>39967601
Call your damn bank and verify that only one charge is there.

>>39967696
I did, it's really just one.

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does anyone know if this stuff is legit?

>>39967601
>>39967819
are you using a card or actual bank account

>>39967865
Try asking literally anywhere else on fit

>>39967866
Card.

>>39967902
Try it with the bank account then. If it's a debit/credit card sometimes it has issues with sending the chargeback (which is what the deposit technically is since it's charging back through the card to your account) because of limits on the card.

Besides, the instant buy limit for the card is like $150 starting or something pathetic like that, whereas a bank account is like $2500

>>39967929
Lmao they want my bank account credentials. Fuck that.
Time to drive to the next town over and use that ATM.

tfw can't decide to run second cycle test only or test + deca

>>39968044
yes? That's usually how linking that type of thing works

>willingly sends out credit/debit card information to a site that uses it as a means to access the bank account anyway, as evidenced by the way it implements chargebacks as a verification process

>but fuck actually linking the exact same bank account for the higher limit, ease of use, and bypassing any issues you're having

maybe it won't send a second charge because it's punishing your autism

alternative to all of this is to just use LibertyX

>>39968197
High test low deca imo. High deca, for me at least, causes a retarded amount of bloat that really just ruins the bulk for me. Plus even with constant consistent cardio my heart felt like it was dying on high test + deca.

TEST IS BEST

>>39968214
how good is deca though?
i'm thinking of doing like 250-300 mg a week

like, if i add deca to the cycle, my costs will double up, so it it worth it?

>>39968235
I enjoy it. Generally just a good compound at low dosages. Doesn't cause me any blood pressure issues, the bloat isn't there, still get that 'lubricated' feeling in the joints, feel very full (muscularly speaking.)

I'm only on 200mg/week right now and still experiencing those benefits, ymmv but you may not even need to run 250-300.

Keep in mind, if you're cycling, opt for NPP instead. Deca stays in the system for ages.

How much HGH would be needed for organswelling to be a concern?

Is it only after years of abuse or can it happen anytime

>>39968265
i mean how good is it for bulking compared to test only?

>>39968291
The above benefits alone make it worth adding for a bulk imo. But it's definitely a great assistance compound for adding mass. Test is still truly best I think, but deca would probably be my second choice for a pure 'bulking' compound, outside of orals.

>>39968316
is deca not okay for 12 weeks cycle? am gonna use susta with it, so will wait like 20 days for pct anyway

>>39968353
Use NPP. Deca stays in your system for a freaking long time. I have successfully cycled it but it's just a hassle for most.

>>39968285
How much would likely vary per person. But generally speaking I think 10iu/day would be around where that starts becoming an issue, and only after a long period of abuse.

2-4 certainly wouldn't, but potentially even 4-6iu/day wouldn't necessarily cause that distended gut. Usually it's a combination of GH + Insulin that leads to an issue in organ growth. Add AAS on top of that and you have an amazing recipe for muscle growth, but tissue and organ growth as well.

>>39968353
No point in using deca for 12 weeks, also fuck susta. Just use test e/c and NPP.

Test E + NPP you *could* get away with a MWF pin schedule, albeit with slightly fucky peaks and troughs with the NPP. Alternatively run test p + NPP and pin every day. I hate that myself and would opt for the MWF schedule personally, but that's your call.

>>39968370
im just not sure if they'll have NPP..

>>39968380
jeeze 3 times a week? i've done test and susta only and do both of them only twice a week..
they got no test E atm, thats the problem

>>39968395
mail me [email protected]

3 times a week is just something I prefer even when running purely long esters, more stable bloods. Necessary with NPP of course and daily is preferable.

>>39968200
I'm not worried about linking the account itself, but they want my login information, which is creepy.

if I can spare the money,
how much hgh should I use on my first cycle?

>>39968380

thanks!

>>39968380
Using 6IU, no chocolate golem gut whatsoever. Then again I am pretty autistic about keeping insulin in check but yeah, should be fine at lower doses.

>>39968381
Get better suppliers. Deca 12 week because there is nothing else is still idiotic.

>>39968200
LibertyX looks pretty good, but there's nothing in my state.

>>39968450
i live in a small shithole, not much suppliers here
i think i'm just gonna go with susta 500 mg/wk only

>>39968461
Susta is gay too lmao. But yeah, I know the pain of lacking supply so do whatever you must. My general train of thought is though, rather than run an awkward cycle for the heck of it, invest in more and better test.

>>39968475
>My general train of thought is though, rather than run an awkward cycle for the heck of it, invest in more and better test
what do you mean?
susta is the only test they got, so what do I do?
i plan on running susta for like 14 weeks and finish off with anavar
is that bad?

>>39968423
Don't bother with GH if you aren't B&C or at the very least running GH long term (years)

>>39968415
>>39968455

Gotcha

>no libx

try looking for bitcoin ATM's nearby. They overcharge the everliving fuck out of you with fees, but if it's your only option...

>>39968486
Don't run var without a test base

sust gets shit on because it's essentially a concoction of 'hey we have all this leftover powder lets make a brew out of it that will totally fuck stable hormone levels over'

>>39968486
Far from optimal, susta is essentially brewing table scraps: the movie. But if your supply is really that bad, do it as you said (I personally would run 16 weeks and add the var towards the end but other anons or trips please chime in because I yolo a lot of shit) - or try and order online. I have enough people in the area who thoroughly fucked their hormone levels just because "hey it was the only thing they had and I really wanted to get BIG CMON"

>>39968498
i meant var with test base, just in the ending weeks..

well, i could see if they have some other test bases, but i don't want to pin even more often than 2 times a week

>>39968518
>susta is essentially brewing table scraps: the movie
Beautiful.

>>39968526
>i don't want to pin even more often than 2 times a week
>making it
choose 1

How anonymous do I need to be with using Bitcoin and Tor for orders? Seeing conflicting info on the subject in regards to supplying real info to obtain BTC/set up BTC wallet

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Jesus Christ I just made a bulking shake with roughly 5000kcal (for the whole thing, considered two servings). Not even dat dere tren nutrient partitioning is gonna save me from this one.

>>39968423
1-2iu is good for quality of life stuff (sleep, appetite, anti-aging, ect). you don't need HGH until you reach mass monster mode and steroids no longer function as effectively.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ9JGgwLE-0

>>39968498
>try looking for bitcoin ATM's nearby. They overcharge the everliving fuck out of you with fees, but if it's your only option...
Yeah, there's one in the next town over. Probably a 25-30 minute drive. 6.6% fee. I don't mind paying ten or fifteen bucks for not having to deal with Coinbase customer service anymore.

>>39968602
do share recipe. i've been sick lately and struggle with kcal intake even though i have constant cravings

>>39968564
You'll generally have to supply some real info to buy bitcoins and set up a wallet but it can be done relatively anonymously. unless you live in one of the few countries where they actually care about AAS use, you'll be fine just taking basic precautions like a secondary wallet.

>>39968632
3 cups whole milk or 1.5 cup heavy cream
1.5 cup full-fat Greek yogurt
2 big bananas, the browner the better
1-2 cup oatz (little less if steel cut, little more of rolled)
2 servings peanut butter as listed on jar
100g casein
3 ice cubes
fistful of macadamia or other fatty nuts
dash of cinnamon and/or diet cocoa
dash of nutmeg
1 egg if you're feeling brave

throw in blender, nuke for a minute and a half, add another mouthful of whole milk if too thick

~5100kcal and roughly 200ish g protons with the ingredients I used. too carby for my taste usually but CMON

>>39968687
why not just go eat fast food instead since it will literally even have better macros than that shit regardless of whether or not you think its "healthy" since you put protein powder in it

>>39968687
freeze the bananas next time once they're over-ripe. Makes them 10x better in a shake, also adds a small amount of liquid content to help with consistency.

>>39968628
Keep in mind that 6.6% fee is on top of the 'current rate' that the bitcoin ATM lists. My buddy went to use one to send me some coin when bitcoins were at $900 the other day and the 'current' transaction rate on the ATM was still $100 per coin.

>>39968721
$1000 per coin*

>>39968291

I've been doing deca for the past 10 weeks and I enjoy it. Recovery is amazing, I'm on 600mg/wk and got no bloat. I gained about 12lbs from test500/wk for 12weeks. I've gained about 20lbs from my deca600/test500 during these last 10 weeks.

Overall I'd recommend it, but you really can't go wrong simply using just test, as they say, test is best.

>>39968721
Shit, yeah. This one's at just below $970, but the current value of BTC is $900. Fuck me.

>>39968753
>I gained about 12lbs from test500/wk for 12weeks.

>>39968625
all natty or not flaming aside, ade rai is kind of my mancrush

>>39968721
>>39968792
So I'll only get about 88% of the money I put into the machine... Meh? I'll lose about $25 for using this machine, but at least I'll have my gear.

>>39968721
I like them unfreezed and putrid levels of ripe because it reminds me of the milkshakes my mother made when I was a wee lad but yeah, freezing them is more practical for most people I agree.

>>39968821
I can see why.

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>>39968802

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Since it's a little slow right now, let's learn about power cucks:

>"Cuck" became a negative term in the most recent election with the so-called "alt-right" using it to mean someone who is a weak or morally corrupt person. What are you thoughts on this appropriation of the term?

>Yes, in certain scenarios the husband is very weak.
>In others, he's in the power position and he's just doing it as an additional way to pleasure his wife.
>he's in the power position
>power position

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/we-talked-to-a-professional-cuck-about-the-alt-right

Low test is a plague on this earth.

>>39968450

How do you keep insulin in check?

Just diet?

If so what kind of diet

I was planning on taking it in the morning,possibly after a small breakfast and fasting until around 5 o clock

Is that good or what? its hard to find solid facts on this, I read llewyns anabolics but he really doesnt go into so much detail

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So I finally got dnp to help cut to 8%
When is the best time to dose?
I have 50mg caps, doing 250/d for now.
Cruising 150/w @230 lbs 6'3 for reference

>>39969097
been laughing at the interview for like three hours straight

>>39969140
I do intermittent fasting 16/8, am severely autistic about the GI of my carbs, and have wifed a professional nutrition expert. lmao

Ive been lifting for two years one day on one day off with very few breaks

If I did 500-600 mg test for 16 weeks with winstrol for the first 4 weeks and last 6 weeks, would that allow me to lift every day? would it improve my recovery that much?

I dont want to use anything too fancy because its my first cycle

>>39969189

so is my plan a good one? or stupid

Small breakfast, followed by mk677 (hgh), then nothing untill 5 o clock, then nothing again

or is it more complex

I just want to get the most of it

OPS SKINNED RABBITS IN LINK
http://www.nature.com/articles/srep25029/figures/4
do you want to leave humanity behind or not?

>>39969246
I don't take mk I take actual hgh, and I dose before bed because that's how I've been doing it for ages. So I really cannot give advice on that one sorry.

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>>39968285
>>39968380
>How much HGH would be needed for organswelling to be a concern?

more than you'll ever be able to afford, a huge chunk of "gh gut" is actually just increased visceral fat deposits from wild insulin abuse and anything short of a flawless diet

>>39968602
>>39968687
>bulking shake

what the fuck is wrong with you, just eat food instead of making the bodybuilding equivalent of jungle juice aka riot punch

>>39969097

honestly as long as people are healthy and happy I don't give two shits what they do, but from a personal perspective the idea itself is completely alien to me

then again I got approached at the gym about that kind of arrangement a while back but got sketched out, only way I would've done it is if the dude was literally cuffed to a chair in my sight or something otherwise my lizard brain paranoia would be freaking the fuck out

>>39969230
>with winstrol

first mistake

>would that allow me to lift every day? would it improve my recovery that much?

technically yes, but you could just as easily increase the intensity instead of the number of training days

>>39969246

your stomach is going to try to eat its way out through your spine if you dose mk then try to fast

>>39969263

wait, are you the 6iu dude? why wouldn't you split it into am and mid-day/post-workout instead so the natural pulse during sleep doesn't get suppressed?

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>>39969230

It will definitely improve recovery. Working daily depends on your intensity

>>39969250
bump for myostatin is for beta males

>>39969302
>what the fuck is wrong with you, just eat food instead of making the bodybuilding equivalent of jungle juice aka riot punch

Lol'd at jungle juice, thank you. And I currently have non-cycle-related medical problems that keep me from wolfing down too much solid food so I need to get dem kcals in liquid form for two or so weeks. Usually I try to eat as much clean solid food as I can of course, don't worry.

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Currently off cycle for about two more weeks.
Just bulked with Test 250 (e3.5d) and eq200(e3.5d)
What should I cut with? I have anadrol on deck but I might save it for my next bulk.

>>39969302
>split it into am and mid-day/post-workout instead
Because my natural pulse is wonky anyway (I actually started dosing on doctor's wish and just ramped up the dosage considerably myself kek) so there is no discernible point in avoiding that. Were my own gh spikes in check I of course would split like any sane human being.

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>>39969357

well that's just fucking weird

you running straight generics or mix and match with pharma since you've got an actual legit reason to get some

debating on ordering some metformin to monkey with my insulin response while I'm ramping up to 6iu of black tops

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>>39969302
You still wear American apparel shirts? I was thinking of picking up like 10 of the 50/50 ones but people say they aren't the most resilient shirts and supposedly the fit is weird. What do you think?

>>39969250
>>39969325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlDzAu-TQb0
if masT was here he would be interested in this, you others obviously aren't because you are not willing to do what it takes to get big

If I am bulking on 860 tren 250 test should I be eating more than +500 or so, or is this a good amount? I'm 12-13% so if I got any fatter I would pretty much go from being considered "lean" to being... not lean, so I would prefer to avoid putting on too much fat, especially since it just means I would have to starve myself for slightly longer before summer

>>39969405
All pharma. Both the ones I get from my doc (of course), and the ones I dose myself. I have a good friend with questionable work ethic, let's leave it at that :^)

>>39969302

What is wrong with winstrol? I thought it was a pretty well understood and recommended drug

I know its hepatoxic but I think my cycle accounted for that pretty well

>>39969466
W2C good pharma friend with no work ethic

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>>39969302
>from a personal perspective the idea itself is completely alien to me
>lizard brain paranoia would be freaking the fuck out

Yeah, this is where my discomfort probably comes from. Feels like we're trying way too hard to "overcome" or "overwrite" our natural responses to these sorts of social norms that people are revolting against because they feel like they're too codified.

I do understand how groups with different hormonal makeups (which influence mental impetuses/priorities imho) can have different norms - it's the collision of the worlds of these respective groups that is always very jarring and at times absurdly funny.

Like if the bull and the wife are both people with an intact lizard brain while the poor husband is one of these power cucks. The people enjoying conjugal pleasure would be doing so on a completely different wavelength.

>>39969461
find what works, dial in your rate of gain for your personal needs. Adjust by + or - 50-100cal (per day) per week.

>>39969302
the more and more I hear about fucking GH the closer I am to putting in an order

trying to convince these fuckos at the gym to spend $2000 each for 500iu so I can ride the gravy train to free GH town kek

>>39969487
That's a topic I won't get into even anonymously. Let's say he owes me a bunch of favors.

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>>39969440

6' 230ish right now and you've probably seen a pic to get an idea of how my chest fills out shirts, larges are teetering just short of douchebag mode tight at the chest/delts/arms and the crewnecks are a teensy bit snug but I'm getting up there in noneckmode

oh and all of mine are the 100% cotton reg crews, had 4 graphics ones for years now and aside from a friend's gigantic meathead pit jumping up on me and putting a hole in one with a claw they're fine

>>39969466

I fucking hate you so much

>>39969475

garbage oral, almost anything else is better unless you like having crunchy painful joints

>>39969489
>Feels like we're trying way too hard to "overcome" or "overwrite" our natural responses to these sorts of social norms that people are revolting against because they feel like they're too codified.

my attitudes towards those are a whole lot more on the flexible side to begin with, so that part's not as much a problem for me as it might be for others

>Like if the bull and the wife are both people with an intact lizard brain while the poor husband is one of these power cucks.

the wife was definitely more sexually aggressive, her attention or focus was an almost physical thing I could reach out and touch

but like I said, so long as everybody's healthy and happy then I don't have that much of a problem

>>39969490
>trying to convince these fuckos at the gym to spend $2000 each for 500iu so I can ride the gravy train to free GH town kek

the international option you don't even have to sign for btw, just come home and oh hey there's like $5k street value of gh sitting on my porch

the no communication thing is unnerving as hell but ultimately it's all good

>>39969490
gh isn't worth it unless you shell out for a good amount of ius. I wouldn't do less than 6ius over the course of a year.

>>39969616
Pls respond since you seem to know everything
>>39969461
Only asking because I don't know how true the tren rumors are

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>>39969456
Would be the perfect outcome for those muhh zyzz muh ttrenn lazy cuck lifestyle. Scared for food

upping the dose and hope for the best faggots

check those glutes on tha cow, mirin hard

>>39969621
Depends on the goal. I wouldn't be using it for growth right away. If that was the goal then I agree, but I'd mostly be running 2iu/day just for the enhanced sleep/QoL benefits. It's cheap enough at that point that it doesn't really matter.

>>39969630
faggot did you not fucking see>>39969490

if you don't know how to dial in your diet personally and have to rely on general "EAT +100000000" rules of thumb you're going to end up a fat fuck or an emaciated fuck anyway

>>39969616
>no sign for int ship

thank god, so nice. It gets more tempting by the minute I have to say. Hopefully these guys go in on an order.

>>39969616
>I fucking hate you so much
Sorry <3 I tried not to brag while answering your question, I just got lucky that a childhood friend works in the field.

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GIRL

will 2.5mgs of anavar do anything? I have this pic of a girl who took 10, but I don't want a huge clit or any manly features

>>39969649
Because I would rather ask someone knowledgable about how an extremely powerful compound influences your diet plan than someone who roids and abuses dnp to be bald and skinnyfat?

>>39969682
anything up to 5mg should be gucci, some sides will still happen but most reversible and not that severe to begin with, also you can hop off at any time if you don't want to run it anymore

>>39969697
just eat your face off then

I'm sure the nutrient partitioning benefits of tren will aide you :^)

Could you /fraud/ bros give me a little advise? I've been experimenting with some sarms and wondering how long I could stay on this cycle. I've done two LGD cycles previously but each of those only lasted ~8 weeks.

Current stack (5 and a half weeks in)
15mg RAD-140
20mg Ostarine
20mg MK677

I've been hitting PR's almost every gym session and body composition is improving week to week. Could I continue this cycle to 12 weeks?

Energy and erections are still good but I'm sure my natural test has tanked. Plz don't flame boys, I know you all pin and are cooler than me ;_;

Complete beginner here, if i wanted to do something like a 1 month cycle what would be my best option

I was looking at test and dbol, with nolvadex ti prevent gyno.

Also, in order to buy online i need a vpn, onion browser, and paypal?

>>39969765
>1 month cycle
why and what makes you think that this is a good idea

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>>39969630

they're kinda true but it's also individual responses, really you just pick a surplus and if you start getting fatter after a couple weeks (making sure it isn't something like temporary bloat from food or e2 or falsely lean looking because you were dehydrated) just scale it back a bit

tdee is a really, really rough guideline that you take and keep refining and re-evaluating

>>39969643

as much as you might make actual valid points, constantly straining to suck your own dick clean off invalidates pretty much anything you say

>>39969664
>Sorry <3 I tried not to brag while answering your question, I just got lucky that a childhood friend works in the field.

time to get a friend to iv 20ml of aids blood, I guess

>>39969682

2.5 maybe, 5 definitely, as long as you don't jump straight to like 15 any virilization effects will be completely temporary if you hop off or drop the dose back down as soon as you notice them

>>39969716

no idea, 100% don't give a shit about sarms so let's hope cap or someone else pops in

>>39969765

yeah you need to do a whooooole lot more reading before you even start thinking about reaching for your wallet

>>39969785
>they're kinda true but it's also individual responses, really you just
Thx for response

>>39969765
>1 month cycle
no
>paypal
no
>complete beginner
ask me how i could tell that anyway

>>39969785
>20ml of aids blood
Funnily enough he's hella gay, maybe I can arrange something lmao

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CMON you niggers ship my goddamn shoes faster

what's everyone do to curb constantly clearing rooms with nauseous fumes? The dandelion root + 8 cups vegetables + 2 bowls of oats thing kinda makes me deadly

>>39969838
>SABO
My nigga.

>deadly fumes
Not being a bitch. Also my gf uses way too much of those faggy aromatherapy room mood enhancer stinkers so the patchouli has me retch more than any of my farts could.

>>39969785
I will look into it, thank you for the notice.

You are on of the few makes me laugh over here irl. Keep doing what you doing professor.

WE ELL GENNE MEKE IT

>>39969682
It was the most stupid decision to get my gf on steroids. That shit is not meant for woman. It all seems cool, until she get off cycle. And the fucking mood swings, holy shit.

Never again brehs

>>39969864
>aromatherapy faggotry

yeah my ex had this shit too, it was essential oils or something that smelled p. good though

but it's not even the scent of my fumes that gets me, it's farting every 10 seconds and having to buy fucking air fresheners for the entire apartment so that guests don't fucking vomit when they come in

>>39969867
>That shit is not meant for woman
Not for all of them, anyway.

>>39969882
I mostly blame them on the dog LMAO

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>>39969901
>tfw at this exact moment I'm looking into adopting a cute pupper again
>probably gonna end up just blaming them on her all the time

bonus: the dogs named fucking natty

KEK

>>39969882
>mast gf: "maybe I should start with lower dose..."
>mast: WERE GENNE MEKE IT! ALL OF THE ROIDS BREH CMON!
>mast gf: ... b-but my feminine traits...
>mast: DID I STUTTER

Just keep a sane approach to it ffs. Not that you'd know what that means, no offense kek

>>39969948
meant for >>39969882

>>39969948
>>39969961
>doing it twice in a row

CMON LAD

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>>39969884
We can control our e2 with an ai, but that's not the case with them. Her fucking depression and mood swings drive me crazy. And after she went off her libido was non-nonexistent. Like fucking a deaf fish.

Would not commend to do

>>39969921
Get this dog. If i had time to get care of one, i would get this dog.

FCUKING HUGE, but it's also expensive af.

>>39969948
You know about woman and their fucking bs feelings. Steroids will make that x1000

i thought she was just horny all the time, but the fucking opposite happend

>>39969961
WELL FUCK POSTING ON MOBILE ENTIRELY I MEANT >>39969867 JESUS CHRIST

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>>39969838
>Size 9.5

Confirmed for dicklet. Size 15 master race.

>>39969977
I'm multitasking work and shitposting on like 4 hours of sleep, have mercy.

>>39969981
Comes down to pre-existing character traits. Mine was exceptionally horny while on and only slightly moodier than usual off. I dunno.

>>39969981
>t. mastiff

I love them. A friend I knew growing up had one and it was so fucking intimidating. Literally a fucking bear of a dog that would run up and bark this thunderous fucking bark at you until his mom called it off, but once she did it was the nicest fucking animal. Insanely playful and thought it was a lap dog, so you'd end up with this 70kg dog resting on your lap.

10/10 would get if, like you said, wasn't expensive as fuck. I also have a small place right now and it would suck here, for the dog that is.

>>39970003
>dick to foot connection meme

if you were shitposting in the thread the other day you'd know my measurements bby ;^)

I am still a manlet and footlet tho

>>39969838
why the fuck are you buying dead lift shoes. What a fucking bullshit, just take of your shoes it will do the same shit

>>39970004
Yeah but what she was on? Var did nothing, because probably was bunk. So i got her on the winny. Then all shit went wrong, kek

>>39970032
MasTIFF, you see we were meant together

but he is so fucking huge, it will make you look smaller. That wouldn't be a good thing for me.

Shiba Inu and husky are also nice dogs

>>39969649
for 2ius might as well do the peps.

>>39969981
>>39970032
can confirm tibetan mastiff masterrace. few downsides:

>needs retarded amounts of space and attention or will get neurotic and insufferable
>not really family dog, made for herding, if not socialized from the moment it leaves his mom's cunt it will never be safe to be around small children or other dogs/animals
>they eat a TON, might not seem like much but ours munched away like $500 of mid-tier grub a month
>prone to medical issues because of sheer size and weight
>only live to about 6-9 years on average so no Disney Pixar lifelong friendship

besides that, 11/10 doggie can recommend with all my heart

if you want a big doggo to keep you company, invest in a malamute or leonberger, if you want a fierce cunt to shred your enemies get a dogo argentino.

>>39969716
Stack sarms in pointless and RAD destroys your test. Go with 5mg LGD cycles 6 weeks on 6 weeks off. Thats the only thing worth it desu. LGD gives best gains to shutdown ratio.

>>39970081
7.5 of var. I cannot really follow the logic of subbing bunk var for winny instead of trying again with real var

Any advices on LGD-4033?

>>39970104
Yeah>>39970090
And don't expect a miracle. Expect a few lbs on your total.

>>39970081
>shiba inu and husky

had a husky as a kid, awesome dog and would love to get one, they just shed so fucking much

>deadlift shoes

just using them as gym shoes, I deadlift in flats now and my flats are wearing out. But I need to wear a grippy shoe when doing machine work at my gym, it's a garage-style gym and the machines are just on concrete floor, so I slip around a bit trying to do shit if I don't have grippy shoes

kinda shitty but w/e

>>39970087
>dogo argentino

oh shit I was looking for someone who owned one of these a while back. Are they actually really vicious or are they reliant on just good training?

Really like that dog, a lot

>unrelated

"The Hearing Protection Act, H.R. 367, would remove suppressors from regulation under the National Firearms Act, replacing the federal transfer process with a National Instant Criminal Background Check. The bill would reduce the cost of purchasing a suppressor by removing the $200 transfer tax."

LETS GO BOYS

>>39969704
Okay. I just don't want a dick and a deep voice. Acne is whatever.

>>39970117
It makes no sense to have supressors and sbr/sbs regulated the way they are. Its just a money grab. Supressors are actually better for the environment and have a huge utilitarian benefit for hunting.

>>39970087
>if not socialized from the moment it leaves his mom's cunt it will never be safe to be around small children
a certain /fraud/ trip comes to mind

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>LEGIT TESTOSTERONA OF HIGH QUALITY POWEDER DOESNT LEAVE YOU NO OPTIONS ,,YOU HAVE TO JACK OFF ,,YOU HAVE TO JERK OFF NOT IFS NTO BUTS,, YOU RUN TO THE SHOWER GET IN SIDE AND HAVE TO IMAGINE IN YOUR HEAD THE LAST WHORE YOU SAW IN THE MALL THAT WAS DRESS SLUTTY AND HAD HER NIPPLES ALL SHOWING THROUGH THE SHIRT...AND TOES WERE DONE NICELY,, YOU HAVE TO JERK OFF TO THIS NOT IFS NOT BUTS NO MATTER IF YOU HAVE GIRL OR NOT YOUR BODY WANT TO FUCK AND WHEN IT WANT IT IT WANT! IT ,,AND ON LEGIT TESTTOESTERONA YOUR BODY WANTS IT FROM THE FIRST 30 MIN AFTER INJECTION TO THE UNFORSEEN FUTURE AS LONG AS YOU ARE ON THAT LEGIT TESTOSTERONA,,

tfw apparently not on that truly legit testosterona

>>39970128
try 2.5, ramp up to 5mg, keep it at that, drop to 2.5 or go off entirely if sides become unbearable (which they should not but w/e)

What's the biggest gains a skelly can make during 4 month while roided, and what would he need to take?

Let's assume it's a man, 25 yo, 180/5'11 and 70 kg/ 150 ibs.
He will go to gym as often as recommended and do any exercise you recommend.

He needs to survive those months.

>>39970147
what the fuck is wrong with you

>>39970147
I can't believe people listen to anything that idiot says. There were maybe a handful of good people on those boards and everyone else was nuthugging the god. The sources aren't special either.

hello fraud.

>>39969921
>bonus: the dogs named fucking natty

I approve.

>>39970081
>putting your girlfriend on bunk var and winny.

Jesus fuck. You deserved every bit of those mood swings, if we're being honest here.

Btw how big are your arms?

>>39970147
That vascularity is awesome.

>>39969682
Try SARMs.

>>39970117
>dogo argentino
Literally bred to be cunts. Selected by viciousness and aggression. It's like with pitbulls or rottweilers but even more extreme. Some breeders try to breed out the "bad" stuff so one can enjoy the breed without the stereotype, but a huge part of the (often illegal) guys just go MORE MUSSLES MORE BARKING MORE TEETH CMON without any regrets.

>>39970146
TOPKEK

>>39970146
he is dead, show some respect

>>39970090
Is it really pointless though?

What if I wanted to joint benefits of ostarine and the lean gains of RAD?

>>39970178
>>39970180

spotted the dyels

in all seriousness though, his advice is not horrible - just doesn't make sense to someone without a crazy size-obsessed mindset. have found the Natural Remedies section of his board fairly useful in getting ideas on things to research (though credit for that stuff doesn't go to him)

>>39970145
Agree. Doubtful it'll pass, but hope it does.

>>39970180
>>39970147
absolutely this. Funny as shit for a good read though

>>39970203
Damn, what a shame. Was hoping that wasn't really the case, especially as they're a fairly hard to find breed here. Thanks anon.

>>39970237
This is my way of paying respect. Not letting the memory die. Or whatever, let me have some fun shitposting, will you.

>>39970245
>spotted the dyels
Nah. I'm just a tad less... extreme.

>>39970266
>Not letting the memory die.
you are right. I miss him

>>39970256
Just look around. There is a fair share of "normal" breeders around but due to the breed being illegal or heavily regulated in like two thirds of the civilized western world nobody really gives a fuck anymore.

>>39970240
RAD will shut you the fuck down. mk will give you joint benefits above ostarine. Plus LGD is cheaper. Save the money m8. If you're going the SARMs you've GOTTA manage shutdown. 6 weeks of LGD at 5mg is a sweet spot of gains to shutdown management.

>>39970279
I do too... for whatever reason. Was entertaining as long as it lasted, aye.

>>39970245
Like I said theres a few guys there that are awesome and I've seen some shit there that I can say I wouldn't have learned elsewhere. I like the bible, its funny shit, but its just comedy and that board is toxic.

>>39970286
What's gonna happen if I run the RAD for 12 weeks then?

Will I get all kinds of acne and soft erections?

>>39970222
>>39970237
who? did yolo die or something?

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>>39970296
>entertaining

>>39970319
Shit gains. No boners. Low test symptoms. Nobody who isn't shilling recommends RAD. Look at the bloodwork people are shutdown within a week.

>>39970280
Mostly trying to go through a shelter to help home a dog that needs it, and because it's a lot less of a cost, and the shelters don't have many of them.

May end up going for a nice pit, in all honesty.
FUck, you fags have me browsing GH15 again for shits and giggles. I'm gonna be here all night.

>>39970341
Don't tell me what to be entertained by. Look around where you are.

>>39970349
Most of "bad breed" shelter dogs come from raided puppy mills or bad abusing owners. Prepare your anus accordingly. I mean, I value the gesture, but you may end up with a barely functioning doggo equivalent of "mossad on a bad day".

>>39970375
>mossad on a bad day doggo

what a great way to equate that kek

but yeah, I'm generally pretty good at picking out the good from the bad and knowing when someone is trying to bullshit me. The pit I linked a pic of earlier seems great, she's just older (9yrs) but I wouldn't necessarily mind that.

>>39970343
I've got 3 grams of this shit though.

I'm gonna shoot for 8+ weeks and report back when my dick falls off.

>>39970375
>talking about batshit crazy ferocious muscle dogs
>not using masT as example
have you no shame

>>39970411
Godspeed on finding a good doggo. As much of a cunt I am towards women and most other men, I love doggos to a fault.

>9yr shelter pit
Don't get attached too much. 12-15yrs life expectancy TOPS

>>39970414
Not the point I was trying to make. But I kek'd.

>>39970412
lmfao people talk shit about roid sides shutting you down "wow look at this fag he needs a needle for the rest of his life!!!" then go and do it anyway except minus the results because they are scared of an inanimate object known as the needle

>>39970412
Idiot

>>39970438
Yeah I understand the life expectancy, it's not a big deal for me. Shit dies, that's part of life. Just good to bring her into a home to play/rest in at least for the last handful of years.

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>>39970411
hol' up

So this pupper >>39969921 is one you can actually adopt???

DO IT

Have a half pitbull at home and she is the most loving angel in the world. Just the right amount of playful yet also very independent if you need to get something done.

Great breed, despite the hate they get on /pol/ (which proves that they are not always right). A good owner can make all the difference.

Are you looking for an active doggo or a lazy one?

As for pound vs. breeder, I've noticed a subtle difference in personalities sometimes - something like a lack of entitlement in the pound dogs. Not that they can't break out of their shell, but it feels like they are just very loving and grateful even after they've become habituated to their environment.

>>39970476
Go on then, you're doing the Lord's work.

Also pits are silly fun to wrestle with, they pack a punch.

>>39970486
yes that is indeed THE actual pupperoni

I have to agree on the personality traits exhibited by rescue/shelter dogs. Every dog I've ever owned except a pair I had from a breeder was that way, the ones from the breeder were little shits most of the time. In a good way, but still.

>>39970492
>pits are silly fun to wrestle with

my old roommate brought one home (and then we made her get rid of it when she couldn't take care of it) and he was a fucking blast to play with.

Wonder if I still have a pic

my source is fucking sneaky as fuck, holy shit.

ordered test e and i swear to god i thought this nigga send me grapeseed oil.

fucking hell thats some next level stealth label says massage oil.

Which strength gains can I expect if I run my first cycle. I can currently DL 440x1-2 and Bench 275x2 how much stronger could I be after one cycle ?

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I am new to all this.
How do I as a danish-fag get my hands on some Anavar, without going to jail?

>pits
>being so beta you need an attack dog

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>>39970660
this desu

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for jerry

>as you all know i am basically better now, glands barely here and at this rate will be completely gone in a week or two, but already so small it doesnt matter anymore honestly
>feel good as fuck, cant stop smiling and laughing at everything

>>>>>few days ago subhuman family goes to my grandparents house
>my grandparents house, where my schizophrenic uncles bird shits in every crevice imaginable and spreads all kinds of germs
>every time someone goes there they get sick from it, even my cousins say the same shit
>i am now sick with some bullshit just as my glands went away

lol.
ahahaha.
ahahahahhaa. why do these old pieces of shit even bother existing, with their useless fucking ugly ass 40 year old son living at home with no job

>>39970735
>me: why did you go there when u fucking KNOW that we always get sick from that disgusting house
>mom: they are my parents anon
yeah and half the time u are crying about how they hate you and only love your sister. fucking retarded bitch now we are all sick as fuck

also my cousins went there too and are now sick as fuck afterwards too and vomitting apparently. so lol.

>>39970161

100mg halotestin
100mg dbol
1000mg test
1000mg trenbolone

16 weeks

smolov 4 week bench routine back to back the whole 16 weeks, once you finish start over

This stack is fairly hepatoxic so dont drink while cycling and get some milk thistle extract

I'm about to start taking MK-677 for the nootropic effects.
I know it's weak hormone, but I was wondering if anyone noticed any gains while taking it.

>>39970735
>>39970755
pics

>>39970349

If your going to buy a pitbull(which is stupid) at least dont be stupid about it

Buy one from a nice fella with a loving family and kids who hug the dog

If you get one that used to be on crack, smokes 30 a day and has a swastika tattoo youre asking for trouble

>>39970772
>100mg of halo for 16 weeks

>>39970772
liver cirrhosis here we go

>>39970659
you are already risking jail in denmark and all you could stomach is a weak oral steroid?

fuck off, either go inject or fuck off.

>>39970803
At best improved sleep which improved energy levels and focus throughout the day as long as I take a stim to combat the residual lethargy. Make sure you take it at night. Consider a low dose like 12.5mg if you are truly only looking for nootropic effects. The effects really come in the long long long term in terms of anti aging and mental health as you age.

>>39970803
>nootropic effects
wat

Though, I got really great sleep gains on it, which makes you really fresh for the following day.

Taking a break as I transition from pharma TRT to self-administered UGL TRT but will be re-starting it soon.

There were a bunch of threads on it yesterday (maybe the archive by now) - check them out.

>>39970819
i tried but you really cant tell at all because i have a good amount of facial hair right now

>>39970486

This is a pibull from a loving home, it was bought as a puppy and raised with children for many years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHa6ULDxiDE

then the grandma made a noise it didnt like and it ripped her face off

PITBULLS ARE ILLEGAL FOR A REASON

I know this is the wrong place to say it but- sometimes laws should be followed

I do fell running and live in a rough area- ive been attacked by a german shepard, a sheepdog and a pitbull

The first two nipped me and made me bleed a little, the pitbull tore my (fairly tough,well made) jacket off my body and damn near ripped my left tit off- it was probbaly the most scared ive been and the damn thing wouldnt let go

pitbulls are nigger dogs-plain and simple

>>39970855
It's supposed to give you a slight cognitive/mood boost. Don't know if you felt that when you mentioned feeling fresh the next day.
But, I'll check the archives. Thanks.

>>39970883
QQ nub.
Enjoy your chihuahua doglet.

>>39970146
I can name like 5

>>39970883
Fuck you pit bulls are awesome. I almost regret not adopting the 80 something lb blue nose named Maximus before he got taken. That doggo was awesome, little fucko was always so excited to see me and go for walks. He'd sit, roll over, stay, and cuddle whenever I'd walk him. Best trained dog in that whole kennel, and ultra active/affectionate. He was only a year or so old.

The little yappy dogs and the mixed breed non pit/terriers are the worst, and most aggressive.

The big dogs just want a human homie to help them get all their energy spent on a run or playing.

>>39970883
>t. guy who got btfo by a fucking dog

just learn to be more masculine than a fucking animal and put the fucking thing in its place when it fucks up

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>>39970998
Forgot pic of best doggo.

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>>39970883
>ive been attacked by a german shepard, a sheepdog and a pitbull

I'm really sympathetic to stories of people getting attacked and if you wanted to be 100% safe then you would just avoid dogs in general. If you're okay with 90% safety you'll get a dog. If you're okay with 80% safety you'll be open to a pitbull, and so on.

Not to blame the victims or anything, but how likely do you think it is that these dogs that attack their owners were trained very well?

I think it's good to raise awareness about dog attacks/safety but for every anecdote about a pitbull attacking its owner there are going to be 10 anecdotes about lifelong pitbull pets that dindu nuffin their whole lives.

>>39970870
Well as long as you're happy, which it sounds like you are, I'm really happy for you :)

>>39970919
I did feel a mood boost. Partially because I was fed up from getting low quality sleep the past year due to flirting with the herbal jew. Can't speak to the cognitive boost side specifically, because I'm also on BRAIN FORCE so it's hard to separate the effects of the two.

Best of luck!

>>39971006

If you get attacked by an animal that has been bred for 300 years for literally no other purpuse but to rend flesh then you will change your mind soon enough

hopefully it happens to you and not some innocent passer by

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>>39971114
>>39971114
>implying I've never been attacked by a dog before

nigga this has happened to me three fucking times in the past handful of years alone

just fucking relax, jab it as fucking hard as you can in the eyes, cram your hand down its throat, and once it's detached just fucking kick/punch/knee/whatever right in the nose

it is literally a dog and unless it's as fucking gigantic as some of the ones dogo anon or masT listed, it's not that hard.

Anyway

>pitbulls are the niggers of the dog world

totally agree

but I'd own a nigger too, if I could

>>39971064

I run in a park, I dont seek out dogs to attack me

One thing you seem to be forgetting is that when shitty dogs attack people 99% of the time its basicly ok

The german shephard actually bit my neck but it didnt really do any damage because german shephards arnt pit-fighting animals

When a pittbull attacks it savages, my experience was actually a very very minor attack, if you look at the fatality of dog attacks pitbulls are about 70 times more likely to kill you than the next most dangerous dog- because they exist for no other reason than to kill, and are very good at it

>>39971143

I can tell you have never been attacked by a pitt bull

I fought off the sheep dog and I fought off the german shephard

A pitt bull cannot be fought off, once it has bit you its staying there until it wants to let go

Back in the day they used to let all kinds of dogs fight each other for sport, once pitbulls were imported to america they had to have their own class- because they won every single fight without exception because they are killers 100% and wont let go even if you break their legs

>>39971143
>I'd own a nigger too, if I could
Kek
>>39971152
>they exist for no other reason than to kill,
Also cuddles. Pitbulls are the best cuddlers.

You guys are making me want a dog.

Question from a newbie: if e2 is a bit high (let's say fifty-ish for argument's sake), but there aren't any symptoms, do you still take AI, or do you just let it be?

>>39971152
Hmmm, it's hard for me to accept this just because of the strength of my anecdotal experience with a half pitbull but I will keep an eye out for this behavior you have mentioned and will do some more reading on it.

You seem to be very passionate in this belief so I respect that.

On the question of ownership however, wouldn't you agree that having irresponsible owners who encourage that sort of savagery is more likely a cause of the fatality stats as compared to some inherent fault in the breed?

Jeez, I just realized I am making the pro-multiculturalism argument but for dogs.

>10/10 don't know what to think anymore

>>39971256
>it is hard for me to accept the reality of pitbulls because of my experience with something that is not even a pitbull

everything he says is true

>>39971273
Ayyyy he's back. How are the glands? Did you pop the others?

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>>39971256
>tfw the older you get the more liberal you become, not because you're getting old but because you see that they've always been right and resisting it has been your young angst fighting through logical thinking

jk tho

>>39971192
I guess I've just been lucky with the one I encountered then, fought it off just the same as the other two (other two were both some sort of mutt, probably also shitbull mixes but couldn't tell)

I know the breeds history well enough, at least the surface level "MUH EVIL DOG" shit. I attribute that to being raised by tyrone's and various forms of ooga booga's for all of very, very recent history.

>>39971152
>>39971192

>>39971221

>Making me want a dog

Maybe this IS mental illness general

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>>39970883
>>39971114
>>39971152
>>39971192

guess what all of this shit has in common

fucking garbage shit human beings who can't be trusted with the responsibility for breathing and blinking at the same time without choking on their own tongue

>This is a pibull from a loving home, it was bought as a puppy and raised with children for many years

is there something besides that garbage clickbait video to go off of claiming that the dog was socialized, trained properly, ie from a "loving home"?

piece of shit owners that beat their dogs, don't exercise them, and think that letting their completely unsocialized dogs run free (why the fuck else would there be a pit attacking you out of nowhere in a park) is perfectly fine are the reason why people get attacked

combine that with backyard breeders that crank out puppies for cash with no regard for their future health or disposition just contribute to the stereotype and feed the trailer park trash (ie the white version of niggers) more dogs to get fucked up

you take away shit breeders churning out puppies that are fucked up from birth, shit owners that have no fucking business owning anything besides maybe a pet rock, treat the dogs right and train and socialize them, suddenly you don't have this hysterical shit about ROAMING PACKS OF VICIOUS PITBULLS NEWS AT 11 CLICK NOW TO SEE MORE

only real argument here is the consequences of when something happens, ie how much damage they're going to do relative from one breed to another

>>39971256

There are a few pitbulls and mixes near me and mostly they are owned by shitty people, so maybe that accounts for the aggression

The one that attacked me was owned by some elderly nigger who fucking sprinted away while his dog attacked a random guy so I doubt he was the responsible owner

The fact is though, the other two dogs were also owned by shitty people- the sheep dog was another old black fella and the german shephard was some young woman who had no control over it all

A pittbull has far more potential to hurt in my experience, just because of that innate, bred in tendency to latch on and not let go

Also im impressed at people actually listening to me, I had a similar rant on /out/ a awhile back and everyone just insulted my mother and insinuated I had autism so congrats on your maturity about this

Good luck choosing a dog, I personally have a big Labrador showdog called Leo and I couldnt recommend them more, although he is getting joint problems now in his old age

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>>39971273
Yeah, every dog I've had except for bulldogs have been mixes of some sort so I do have a fuzzy understanding of many breeds.

>>39971343
>incompetence of owners/breeders is an important confounding factor in the anti-pitbull argument/analysis

This still seems most likely to me.

>>39971343

If you type "grandma atacked by pittbull ice bucket challenge" the case comes up

There are lots of interviews with the family and they explain they had it since a puppy etc

They also seem very nice and genuine people although I cant rule out them abusing it in private or something

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>>39971410
>bulldog

Where to get a English/British bulldog that isn't SUPER inbred as shit? I'm ok with a little bit, but not like bulging eyes like a French one, or dog scoliosis etc.

>>39971343

also the pitbull was with its owner when It attacked me, although he did run away

>>39971221
just because you don't feel anything doesn't mean the estrogen isn't tearing shit up inside you. keep e2 in the normal range until you have a lot of experience.

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>>39971383
I hear Labs are amazing. I feel like with my long work hours I wouldn't be able to give them the attention they need unless I got roommates who liked the dog and had different work schedules.

For now, sticking to lazy bulldogs who have deceptive amounts of energy when you do have time to play but are completely content with sleeping all day.

>>39971452
God damn it peek you have my dream doggo. Has yours had any health issues? Do you foresee any?

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>>39971221

missed this one

high e2 can and will bloat you which leads to increased bp and monkeyed lipid profiles, even if you aren't crying like a bitch or growing tits or sprouting a pizza on your back

>>39971410

it's literally the only differentiating element between big happy goofy retards that love people and the kind of dogs you see on the news for this shit

>>39971417

dude, seriously? it took me like five fucking seconds

>Mrs Rigdon’s son said: “This should serve as a warning to all pet owners. Unless you are going to take the time to make an animal a pet then it will remain an animal.”

>He explained that the dog belonged to his sister who only kept the animal for “breeding purposes”.

>He added: “She took no time to train him or make him listen. He was a wild dog and she should be ashamed for keeping him out of selfishness and not love.”

>>39971440

aaaand shitty owner

>>39971452

jesus just looking at that kid makes me irrationally angry for some reason

>I hear Labs are amazing.

labs are baller as fuck too, suuuuuuper biddable which makes training a breeze even if they can be kinda retarded sometimes

>>39971452

Yeah labs need alot of exercise

My has never been fat but it got a little overweight once and I still feel guilty about it incase that contributed to its joints

Back on topic now how long do insulin "spikes" last

say I had something like a chocolate bar, how long until my insulin was back at fasted levels?

How about If I had something like shredded wheat, would that be longer/shorter?

It seems hard to find exact stuff

Is it worth looking into glycemic indexes?

>>39970772
CMON

seriously though one of these days I'ma try this out of sheer boredom

>>39971509

Well fuck I was wrong

I`m still right about the crazy kill ratio of pittbull attacks compared to other dogs

http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2016.php

64% of all deaths were pittbulls

next most deadly dog was Rottweilers with only 12%

>>39971551

You will have a serious bench at the end of it

Assuming you survive

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>>39971509
>labs

labs are fucking god tier and superb animals but need a ton of fucking exercise or they get fat as shit, and they have a ton of energy.

>unrelated

convinced qtczgf to take var in the future and start hitting the gym with me when she comes here

GONNA BE A GAINFUL RELATIONSHIP BRAHS

>inb4 we fuck the child up for life

>>39971578

In 2015 it was 85%

2016 was actually kind of a good year for pittbulls

>>39971343
I already liked you, but that rant made me love you. No homo.

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>>39969716
I would not go 12 weeks. 8 on 8 off. You may need some baby pct after your current cycle.


Sup my favorite degenerates?

>>39971597
>assuming you survive
i have nothing left to lose

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>>39971535

get a glucometer and see

the more complex a carbohydrate the less pronounced the insulin response, also the total macronutrient composition between protein/carbs/fats will influence digestion which has downstream effects on rate of absorption and conversion into glucose

>>39971578

so it's a matter of potential for harm after you control for all of the other external factors

>>39971631

nothing will make me judge someone faster than how they treat their dog and god fucking help the dumb bastard if I see them abusing it

>>39971654

debating if I actually want to go do cardio tonight

>>39971578
>unironically quoting dogsbite.org
that's like quoting the westboro baptist church for their stance on bruce/caitlyn jenner

>>39971447
>>39971509
Thanks, guys. I'm about to start running TRT doses for the first time, and I'm a fatty (gonna be cutting hard) with natural e2 of about 20 (ref range 0-40). I'm kind of nervous about aromatization, though it probably won't be a big deal with low doses.

>>39971685
As I said far above, I may be a misanthropic cunt but I love any animals I own to a fault. Not sure if it correlates, but it has always been like that lol

>tfw twice convicted for battery but can't even buy a mouse trap that doesn't catch them alive without second thoughts

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>>39971685
>debating if I actually want to go do cardio tonight
It's Tuesday man. Nothing else going on lol

Bros, is this cycle bad/good/needswork/retarded?

15 Weeks Test-E (1-15)
2ml @ 250mg (500mg / week) / week (10ml / Vial)

4 weeks (10-14) Anavar
2caps ED (every day) @ 25each / 50mg total.

Aromasin (2-15)
1 cap (12.5mg) EOD (Every Other Day)

--PCT--

Clomid (16-19)
50/50/25/25
2 caps @ 25mg each (50mg daily) for first two weeks.
1 cap @ 25mg each (25mg daily) for last two weeks.

Nolva (16-19)
40/40/20/20
2 caps @ 20mg each (40mg daily) for first two weeks.
1 cap @ 20mg each (20mg daily) for last two weeks.

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>>39971727
Sounds reasonable.

>>39971727
1) don't plan your AI usage like that. you have no idea how you will react. I also recommend buying more than you think you will need.
2) anavar is going to underwhelm you a lot. I personally wouldn't even bother, but it can't hurt so it's whatever if you have the money to spare and don't mind being disappointed
3) the clomid is uneccessary. again, it's kind of like the var... except clomid has bad sides that you may not want to deal with. your call.

>>39971779
Anything you would change?

>>39971727
see>>39971779

Probably the most reasonable suggestion for a first cycle anyones ever made here.

My only tweaks I would make would be to make sure you have enough var on hand to up the dose if you so desire (50mg is not much for some, though more than enough for me as well)

and on top of that, perhaps consider running the var for 6 weeks rather than 4. But all of that just comes down to personal preference, otherwise, it's good.

>>39971727
>>39971800
>>39971805

Could winstrol be used instead of anavar?

Which would be superior in terms of strength gains

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>>39970755

Damn, you got one dysfunctional as fuck family.


No wonder you're here.

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>>39971431
Check out puppy finder. That's where my roommate just got this beauty who has great healthy parents. A lot of breeders will have instagrams and will be very upfront about the care they take in selecting prospective males to use etc.

This puppy came from Tulsa - very loveable.

https://www.instagram.com/tulsabulldogs/

>>39971478
Nope, the bully at my house is (according to the vet) one of the healthiest she has seen. She's only 2 so who knows. Only issue is she poops in the house sometimes because she's not as vocal when she needs to go out and will just sit by the door hoping you notice.

Don't foresee anything. Heart issues are common with bulldogs but we go on walks on weekends and she has the yard to play in during various parts of the day. And with the pic related puppy in the mix she's kept very active.

Bulldogs are great - go for it.

>>39971800
Drop the Var, Clomid. Just run Test and PCT with nolva only using an AI if I get sides (bitch tits, sensitive nips, etc)?

>>39971853
Don't use winstrol. Winstrol would be superior for strength gains, but not worth it in other regards.

If you want strength gain and are looking to partner something with gaining mass, opt for superdrol. Run it for 4 weeks or so with the first week being adjusting dosage to find what works for you (starting at 10mg/ED and working up to 30mg/ED)

avoid dbol like the plague as a beginner imo, adrol may be a good alternative but will add bloat

So, what if i still want kids eventualy.

Reading stories people are still getting their wifes pregnant while on just test.
Some say go off for a few months, use good pct then till pregnant, then go back on.

Are their HUGE risks of fucking yourself up forever?

>>39971855
he sounds the most dysfunctional

>>39971912
You might want to look into HCG if you want to be on the safe side. AFAIK, sperm production is dependent on intratesticular test levels/production, and HCG is commonly used to keep testicular atrophy at bay.

I think the risk of "fucking yourself up forever" is closely tied to the "permanent suppression" meme. So, no there are not any "HUGE risks" of that happening - it is actually very unlikely if you are planning to PCT properly.

Good luck!

>>39971888

What is it that makes you not like winstrol?

Ill look into superdrol

>>39971888
>recommending sdrol to a noob
you're definitely not wrong on the strength but that could be a bit much for him. maybe tbol?

>>39971912
as long as you're not young and you take proper precautions (regular bloodwork, proper PCT, etc.) your odds of JUSTing are very low.

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>>39971803
>>39971805
I would not change anything. It's a first cycle and it's not crazy at all.
I did tren for a first cycle so ya.
The point is that this is a first experience. Pay attention and keep a journal and LEARN from this cycle.
>>39971855
That bitch is ugly but OMG I would wreck that poon in that position.
>>39971856
Cute pupper =)
>>39971912
>So, what if i still want kids eventualy.
Based on my bro science research.
If you could have kids pre roids you can have kids post roids.
If you couldn't pre roids you could MAYBE with lots of hcg and whatever but probably not.
The point is roids don't change your chances of having kids once you come off the roids.

>>39971727

Make your PCT into 6 weeks with half the dosage to prevent side effects.

>>39971955
Actually now that I look at it, it seems like spermatogenesis is dependent on more than just intratesticular test, but my advice about HCG to promote fertility is still valid.

>>39971961
Winny is generally most effective as a "finishing" drug for contest prep when you're already at low bodyfat. like if you're 9% and want to be 6%. it also fucks with your body's natural inflammatory response so your joints feel worse.

>>39971974
>I did tren for a first cycle
CMON

Anyone has experience with ITTP?

Endurance is down the shitters

How stupid am I for considering hopping back on after only like 1-2 months of returning to lifting following a ~1.5-year break? I had previously been lifting for about a year and had my first cycle all planned out, gear and PCT purchased, etc., but some health issues prevented me from working out for an extended period and I lost a lot of weight along with most of my natty gains.

Yesterday was my first time lifting in forever and I felt like a weak little bitch boy. Can't help but think about the juice already

>>39972015
IM carnitine pre workout is $$$ for endurance

>>39971962
>tbol

I mean if we're talking about var being underwhelming that's about 10x worse

>>39971961
see>>39971992

>>39971974
I agree, I don't think anything necessarily needs changed, just that depends on what his goals are. Mostly for choice of oral.

>>39971962

This is my first cycle, thats one of the reasons I was leaning towards winstrol, its recomended in a few "beginner stacks"

Does superdrol cause massive hair loss aswell? im only just looking into it but it seems very similar to masteron which has a bit of reputation for hair loss

>>39971992

I didnt know that about winstrol, I actually had heard it was good for joint/tendon help- I guess they misunderstood or something

One of the things I care about most is joint health ( history of knee trouble in family)

When I'm on a cruise, should I keep the same routine as my blast or go back to training like a natty?

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>>39972014
>CMON
True story, and every cycle since. ;)
>>39972015
>>39971685
>Anyone has experience with ITTP?
Brick? Weren't we talking about this the other day?

>>39972042

Im in the same exact position

I havnt touched a barbell for 2 years

>only 40k OHP and 80k bench

Im going to wait until my lifts are a little higher before hopping on though, im hoping this muscle memory everyone talks about gives me a leg up

>>39972075
for what it's worth superdrol didn't affect my hair, take it with a grain of salt because I'm already balding genetically anyway

Very intense strength gains, remained very lean (or as lean as I could be for being fat) and had a large increase in mass overall from sdrol. Love the compound, probably going to finish off this blast with it.

>>39972091
Lower rep ranges, lower number of sets.

>>39972100
holy shit dude how is your ohp so poverty tier compared to bench?

Any experiences with Rad140/testolone in here stacked on top of test, on the off chance?

>>39971955
>>39971962
>>39971974


Cool tthank you il look into that.

From what i have read it indeed felt like a scare mongering thing, like roid rage and a lot of other bullshit

>>39971888
>telling some retard to use superdrol for his first time using roids

tfw too poor to roid

>>39972075
there's nothing wrong with winny, and it doesn't actually hurt your joints, just makes them feel worse. if you want strength low dose sdrol (10mg or so) should do that without much sides.

>>39972136
phase 1 clinical trials and you want to stack it on your cycle.

injecting bathtub chemicals just isn't enough for some.

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>>39972070
>choice of oral.
I mean var probably sucks? I don't know. I've never done any oral ever.
I think a first cycle should be test + one other thing.
Keep it simple stupid.
Log your progress and results.
Drop to a cruise dose or come off and pct.
Read your logs and reflect.
>>39972091
>When I'm on a cruise, should I keep the same routine as my blast or go back to training like a natty?
Probably less volume on a cruise but if you don't know what it feels like to overtrain then you should use gear.
>>39972139
>roid rage
Is a myth kinda. Tren and maybe halotestin although I have never used it WILL change your outlook/mind temporarily.
>>39972145
>tfw too poor to roid
STOP BEING POOR.
Get at me for advice.

>>39972186
alright i'll stop

>>39972144
>calling other people retard as the literal /fraud/ town oaf
pot, meet kettle

>>39972198
to be fair roids themselves are cheap af. it's everything else that makes it expensive.

>>39972100
lul I'm even weaker.

Yeah, same on that muscle memory. Guess I'll just wait and see

>>39972132

I havnt done nay exercise for over 2 years

I used to press 97k for 7 sets of 3

>tfw so close to 100k ohp but missed it

Finished due to knee injury

I got 137k bench aswell now I think about it, although only for a few reps

>tf

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>>39972198
>alright i'll stop
I am dead serious. If you live in the USA there is NO excuse for being poor.
>>39972218
>pot
Dude weed...

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>you will never be an intelligent alpha male like brick

>>39972231
>smoking herbal jew
>making it
choose 1


... ah who am I kidding. In spite of all my other health fixations, some rank dank before heavy lifting adds into the experience.

>>39972109

Im looking into this

Thanks man

>>39972144

wow mean

>>39972227
>>39972230

I got 220k deadlift for a double at least so I can cross off that one

>>39972224
yeah but like all kinds of drugs it's more expensive here than what i imagine it is in the US

>>39972231
yeah i'm working on it, it's even harder to be poor here than in the US

>>39972232
>filename
Your folder must be incredibly organized.

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>>39972186
>Get at me for advice.
Just flunked out of college. Only job experience is working at a supermarket. Parents are willing to pay for any training/licenses/whatever to help me get employed,
What do?

Coinbase is still the best way to buy shitcoins?

Mycelium and bitsquare are too complicated for me. Local bitcoins has a ridiculous markup.

Bitquick however looks pretty simple and low markup - wondering if anyone has experience with it though.

>>39972263
suck dick for cash

>>39972253
Just be aware, it can be quite harsh on the liver for some. I personally have no issue whatsoever with this and felt fine even at 4 weeks on, could probably have continued, even at 30mg ED. However it can cause some pretty hefty lethargy for some.

>>39972271
look into libertyx if giving your info to coinbase isn't appealing

most of the tripfags from 1-2 years back gone?

>>39972282
Would only do that If I was at risk of being homeless.

>>39972295
great mindset

>>39972263
Get a trade at a local CC

>>39972294
yeah. Fatlifts lurks, jerry and bimbo are still around. Chem defected to fitmisc.
Everyone else is gone like the wind.

>>39972315
bimbo left because of alex, chem is believed to have been around for a brief visit

>>39972313
What trades are in demand and have good prospects?

>>39972323
bimbo was here yesterday.

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>>39972232
We are ALL gonna make it breh.
>>39972252
Ya weed is cool. You just can't let it stop your other ambitions.
>>39972257
Where is here?
>>39972263
>What do?
What do you like to do?

In my opinion any sort of "gun" dog is gonna be the best bet for most people. Smart enough to respond to training, not so smart that they get bored too easily and get into trouble. Active enough for some fun playtime, not so active that they'll need hours and hours of exercise. Herding dogs are too active and smart for their own good unless you're actually gonna work it. LGDs need a ton of socializing early so they aren't shitty to strangers. Show dogs tend to have tons of health issues. "Guard" dogs have shitty breeding and its just a crapshoot. You could end up with an aggressive piece of shit dog.

Gun dogs were bred to be companions for most of the year but work while out bird hunting as well. Hearty, sweet, easy going dogs that are cool chilling, playing, or meeting other people/dogs.

Retrievers, spaniels, pointers, poodles, ect. Those are your best bet overall.

>>39972042

Id go for atleast 3/6months eat like crazy and get back to where you were strength wise then if you still want to go on gear go for it.

>>39972345
yeah but he threw a hissy fit and vowed to never come back

which kinda means he'll keep a low profile for two weeks and return lmao

>>39972325
Aircraft anything, electrical anything, some machining stuff, welding. Theres more I'm sure you just gotta look up salaries. Its somewhat regional as well. Plumbing can be good in areas with strong unions, not so much in areas near the mexican border for obvious reasons.

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>>39972257
Where's here?

>>39972263
1 - stay away from /biz/ in this tumultuous time
2 - look into trades like being an electrician, HVAC person, plumber (this is a meme advice but it seems legit to me) if you are not good at programming
3 - if you are good at programming, or think you could be, check out programming bootcamps. my friend got a great job in SF he loves after joining one of those. he already had a college degree but I don't think that is as important as skill in those sorts of jobs (and you're more likely to find employers who aren't sticklers for only hiring people with degrees in that field)

Do you have any business/entrepreneurial ideas?

>>39972290
>libertyx
Definitely interesting - but if there's no store near me I'm fugged, right? Closest one is 116 miles.

>>39972363
kek

>>39972363
Nah I got all my other ambitions on fucking point. I just like the additional challenge working through the brain fog and lethargy of some dank indica while lifting heavy. Most don't understand it, and I am fine with that.

>>39972181
I like the idea of keeping my prostate the same size.

>>39972385
need screencaps, did not see his reaction.

>>39972416
have none sadly, but you didn't miss much

>>39972412
then use stuff that isn't androgenic. i believe nandrolone is good for that.

>>39972416
It was nothing. Just being a baby about people criticizing him for taking dicks in his butt for money and stuff like that.

>>39972186
>Test + Other

What do you recommend?

To be honest fraud family
I only think I could get a dog If I had a stay family(housewife and kids) to keep it stimulated and company the majority of the day.
Can you imagine how shitty the life of some dogs is? Especially when their owners work long hours. Those poor dogs all alone and bored out of their minds 12-16 hours a day.
I'm not sure if getting multiple dogs alleviates this problem.

>>39972394
>>39972363
norway

>>39972434
Right but I'm prone to gyno even when natty so I need mast in every blast ;_;

>>39972443
Agreed. People get dogs as single people are far too selfish for them typically.

>>39968749

>>39972443
you could always rescue an old one that likes to sleep all day that was gonna be killed/never be adopted anyway.

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>>39972474
This is true.

>>39972474
no

>>39972443
Good thinking. In my situation, the dogs are never alone for more than 4 hours because one roommate or another will be home due to irregular work schedules.

That being said, the activity level and desire to leave the house can really depend on the dog. Many large bulldogs will want to stay indoors in one spot all day even if you are home. Mid size ones are more active though.

Multiple dogs alleviates the problem to an extent, but if you don't have a way to give them access to the outdoors it should not be considered. Especially if you are going to be dead tired when you finish work and won't play/walk them.

>>39972363
>What do you like to do?
I'm really not sure. I was doing philosophy at college(to do post grad law) but I hated it and performed extremely poorly due to going way overboard with partying. I definitely don't want to go back into tertiary education.
I feel like I would like to do something hands on but I'm open to trying sales, data entry etc.
I think I just need to just try something that will get me some more experience and allow me to pick up some skills to move forward.
>>39972391
>>39972394
I'll look into these.
Thanks

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>>39972442
>What do you recommend?
Test + another compound that doesn't act like test and doesn't have the same sides. Deca or tren or some oral that doesn't aromatize.
The key is to learn how your body converts test to estrogen and adapt to that with drug choices.
>>39972444
>norway
What do you think about Finland?
>>39972474
>>39972494
>>39972498
Don't shave. Be a man. I'm pretty hairy and of all the girls I've been with only one has truly complained about body hair. More than half of the girls I've been with love it and love to run their fingers through my chest hair and fall asleep on my chest.
>>39972510
>philosophy
Pick something people pay money for. Philosophy is great and I love it but it doesn't pay the bills. Ya feel me?

>>39972474
that Alex kid needs to leave and stay left