Martial arts thread

who win

punch guy or

grab guy

thots

/asp/

What does /fit/ practice?
>Judo-green

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>"martial arts isn't art"

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>>39966133

>Martial Arts
>Arts

>>39966143
Some form of martial arts should be part of your training and gives many reasons to lift for annons

>>39966144
Why do you choose a dying form of grappling over a more popular/functional one like BJJ?

>>39966172
>BJJ
>Functional

Enjoy butt-scooting nerd

>>39966172

this sounds like the beginning to a cheesy movie

I bet you look like sage whereas the judoka youre replying to has more boy next door looks, and buddeh, it doesn't end well for you

>>39966172
Because there is a club in my town, i also don't have my divers licence yet.
I also enjoy it and don't car about dying meme

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>>39966157

>>39966142
both guy

>>39966133
What cardio should i be doing to get into martial arts

>>39966466
Just go and train desu

>>39966466
Get into it first. Get in better shape while you learn.

>>39966466
Just go. Your cardio will be shit to start but I'll catch up as you push yourself. Not many things are as motivating to keep going as someone actively trying to kill you.

>>39966172
How the olympics going for yo-

Oh wait, I'm sorry...

>>39966157
What point are you trying to make?

>>39966144
Boxing
Tkd - black
Bjj - blue
Haedong kumdo (sword shit) - black

>>39966748
Every problem with judo stems from the olympics tbqh

t. judoka

Going to my first BJJ tournament soon, what S&C other than rolling and drills do you recommend?

>my sageywagey

god, I wish his dick was literally as big as his jockstrap looks like. so horny for this dude

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>>39966172
BJJ fag here, you greatly underestimate the valid improvments Judo could make to your overall BJJ stand up game. They compliment each other wonderfully.

Also it is in our very history, BJJ is after all a relaxed and thoughtful reinterpritation by the Gracie's of Judo Newaza.

>>39966748
Good. Lets just keep it that way. There was a time when Judo was glorious, it used to have all sorts of banned throws, subs and even leg taledowns and not too long ago either. The suits in the olympic commitee are bastardizing Judo for the sake of normie viewers who don't give a single damn about Judo UNLESS their country takes gold.

>>39966819
>>39966894
Less true now with the new rules, awarding aggression and technical excellence over pushing someone out the ring enough so they lose on shido's, and the new gripping rules which will open up a shit load of throws that haven't been viable for the last few years. I expect we'll be seeing legal versions of te guruma soon, and the competition variaton of kata guruma will become even more popular than it already is.

>>39966133
What are ways I can build more stamina and power for boxing aside from jogging?

>>39966172
How's that 50/50 guard going for you?

>>39967025
How does jogging aid with power? Do heavy compound lifts, build strength using resistance and explosive movements. The stronger you get, the better your strength endurance will be.

Also goes for this anon >>39966865

>>39967025
Sprinting.

Do you punch with the First two knuckles or last 3?

Fuck off cma fags.

Only responses from mma, boxers and Mt fighters please.
I've been doing it last 3 knuckles for everything except the quick jab (power jabs I still use last 3)

I still use last 3 even when I go barehanded on the heavy bag.

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>>39967019
We make new rule now.

Girl no longer allowed to wear rashguards.

>>39967066
Anon plz stop trying to fuck your hands.

First two only.

>>39967066
first 2

>>39966144
BJJ white belt. Started last year.

>>39967041
Would you say higher reps are better? Also how useful would isometrics be for BJJ?

>>39967066
make a natural(i.e. relaxed) fist. draw a straight line from your elbow to your knuckles. notice where that line ends up.

>>39967025
Plyo and jump rope

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>>39967095
2 stripe here. How are you liking it? Any qt's?

>>39967066
First two. Always. Your hand bones for those two knuckles need to align with the bones in your wrist.

>>39967097
>Would you say higher reps are better?

No, you're not body building, you're building strength right? Lift as heavy as you can in structured, heavy workouts.

High rep low weight is good for conditioning (ie, high intensity cardio), but not what you're looking for to build strength.

What's your stats? Height, weight, rank, time in training? What specific part of your game do you want the strength for? Takedowns? Ripping through someones grip to crank a kimura?

>Also how useful would isometrics be for BJJ?

Some people seem to rate it, but there's a tried and tested formula, why deviate?

>>39967146
>women doing martial arts

Why even bother

>>39967146
I get murdered in class but I leave happy and with new insight each time. I'm lucky enough to train with brown and black belts in the class. Oh, and there are 3 QT's. Life is good.

>>39967160
Mackenzie Dern would fuck u up m8

>>39967146
m-mommy me no want air please take away mommy ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>39967160
In BJJ, they can be very dangerous. Grappling skills also translate really well to potential rape situations.

Plus, it's fun.

>>39967181
>>39967183
Kek

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>>39967160

Oh god i have argued with this in so many threads now i can't even be arsed, BECAUSE SOME ARE GOOD ANONS.

Let them, its good for them and some really good especially in the grappeling world.

If you just want to straight up compare them exactly to men you are being retarded and you will only defend any man that does lose as being a shit man/ boy anyway. Mfw.

https://youtu.be/SJnyPLuHSIU

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/11843092/Brazilian-mugger-pleads-for-daddy-after-trying-to-rob-professional-female-MMA-fighter.html

>>39966142
depends on how good the punch guy or the grab guy is.
more interesting question

who win

two very bad punch guys vs one very good grab guy

also, who win

two very bad grab guys vs one very good punch guy

>>39967041
I never implied jogging helped all three, I meant I knew jogging helped with stamina but I wanted to know more exercises and routines

>>39967216
Kek

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>>39967231
grab sports only work 1v1

>>39967243
Skip rope

>>39967158
>High rep low weight is good for conditioning (ie, high intensity cardio)
Yeah, I meant endurance training when I said high reps.

I'm looking to moreso develop escapes, so you're probably right about lifting heavy.

>>39967266
Remember that as your base strength improves, your base stamina and endurance improves with it. Strength training should always be done by grapplers.

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>>39967255
Fantastic. Glad you could get involved here today.

Do you do anykind of contact martial art anon?

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>>39966748
G-d forbid Bjj to ever become an oly sport.
Oly ruined Judo and Wreslting.
>When Judokas think ashi-garami is an invention of bjjers to look cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YXH_LrcqNc
>When young wreslters can't into a double wristlock and call it kimura.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhTqKePonjg
Please save Bjj from the Olympics

>>39967025
Lift weight, do plyometrics exercises, hill sprints, work your core with weight.

>>39967629
>>When Judokas think ashi-garami is an invention of bjjers to look cool.

Who the fuck would say that? It only takes a look at the gokyo to see that it's not.

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>>39966143
is now a circlejerk for pretend-wrestling fags. feels bad because i used to be a regular there before they came.

>>39966894
>for the sake of normie viewers who don't give a single damn about Judo UNLESS their country takes gold.

That's literally what all the olymic sports are.

>>39967216
post more rare christas

>>39966157
>"mma is an all-white sport"
what did meryl streep mean by this

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>>39967685
Ok

>>39967629
All this bullshit about the olympics ruining judo is uninformed. Rule changes force techniques to adapt, that's why judokas have 3 different entries into kata guruma now, and why we have so many thousands of variations into different throws, the aim is still always the same, throw for ippon.

It's also a shit thing to say when the vast majority of bjj comps are about scoring points rather than sub only, and most fights are boring as shit for 10 minutes with one guy winning because he took someones back 5 minutes ago and did fuck all with it.

>>39967676
Same, anon. I mourn old /asp/

>>39967676
Is that Sting?

Started boxing cuz hajime no ippo

> 8x 3 min sprints
> chopping wood
> skiprope

The shitty gym didnt even get close to the level of exhaustment / satisfaction i get from boxing

Also when i started i was cutting and just stopped. Eating sweets etc but due all the training (3 days training; 3 days run/chopping wood) and still got down to 10% bf ~.

Just gonna look for some hard worker job that pays the bills so i can become a professional

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>>39967712
Sport is truely the double edged sword.

On the one hand its why these martial arts are refined to work under pressure,

On the other hand it makes some silly asides for it as a martial art. Any BJJ guy ever been thrown in such away that if the game did not end with it, you would easily take their back?

There is good and bad to it

>>39967769
>Any BJJ guy ever been thrown in such away that if the game did not end with it, you would easily take their back?

I understand what you're saying, but it just comes down to rules, when judo guys fight BJJ rules, it's likely they'll lose because it's not their rule set. But when BJJ guys come to judo, the vast majority of them get thrown for ippon.

And then there's this, the guy is also a BJJ black belt, but how many thousands of times have you seen, or even drilled this transition yourself?

https://www facebook com/JUDO-IPPON-347687625378359/?fref=ts

>inb4 memebook

>>39967707
too rare

Can l learn a martial art by watchin youtube videos and punching a bag ?

>>39967759
yeah, from David Lynch's Dune movie

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>>39967818
Yup. I still think they are valuable to each other as gi martial arts. I would always recommend do both. One thing i will give the Judo guys is their side control os pretty good if they can pass your guard.

It was odd whem i started, i was always being told to chill, to relax when standing. But any grade lower than brown belt irinically forces like fuck on the ground and can't understand why i just keep em in guard and then they get armbarred or triangled as they try to stack in a weird way. Lost in translation i guess. Still they have beautiful stand up and their cores are strong as fuck

Also cannot watch open your link...

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>>39967849
How so?

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>>39967861
I wouldn't. You will just make very bad habits. Nothing around? Or are you shy?

>>39967818
BJJ>Judo in general street fights all holds barred though.

>>39967877
>Also cannot watch open your link...

try this, you'll need to put the '.' in between facebook and com
https://www.facebook com/347687625378359/videos/726655250814926/

>It was odd whem i started, i was always being told to chill, to relax when standing. But any grade lower than brown belt irinically forces like fuck on the ground and can't understand why i just keep em in guard and then they get armbarred or triangled as they try to stack in a weird way. Lost in translation i guess.

It's because of the lack of time they were previously allowed on the ground, you had to force the pressure and make it count because you probably only had 10 seconds. This has been thrown out the window now, if you watched the last olympics, a ton of fights were won on the ground, and the fighters had as much time on the floor as long as they were progressive. Stalling on the ground would result in matte and reset on your feet, Travis Stevens, Kayla Harrison and kaori Matsumoto all had loads of time on the floor. The real reason BJJ won't get into the olympics is because the new ne waza rules in judo have made it obsolete as separate spectator sport.

>>39967920
How so? You gonna pull guard and choke someone? Work that sweet reverse 50/50 berimbolo worm twister nut crusher you saw on youtube? Or are you gonna throw someone flat on their back onto concrete?

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>>39967953
>. The real reason BJJ won't get into the olympics is because the new ne waza rules in judo have made it obsolete as separate spectator sport

I still think prefer it being out of the olympic commitiees mitts. Do you imagine such a rule set will have skilled jiu-jitsu guys storming in to olympic comps? I know that might be a hard one to answer and that our stand up gi throws are not nearly as good, but i find higher level Judoka who can't seem to figure out my lasso or spider guard at all.

>>39967993
>Do you imagine such a rule set will have skilled jiu-jitsu guys storming in to olympic comps?
I hope so, the line between the two is more blurred than it ever was. They'll need to improve their standing work though, the same as judoka entering bjj comps have to open their depth in ne waza.

> but i find higher level Judoka who can't seem to figure out my lasso or spider guard at all.
Because it's so BJJ specific, in judo competition you'd just be stood up in those guards unless you were actively making progression towards a pin or a sub.

>. The real reason BJJ won't get into the olympics is because the new ne waza rules in judo have made it obsolete as separate spectator sport

I wrote this but I want to add;

the real reason BJJ won't get into the olympics is because the new ne waza rules in judo have made it obsolete as a spectator sport to the layman.

There are very few people who watch judo or bjj comps that don't train in them themselves.

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>>39968049
>There are very few people who watch judo or bjj comps that don't train in them themselves.

This goes for BJJ too, which is interesting because MMA by comparison is largely full of fans that do not compete, train or dare i say it, actually have a single clue what is going on. Id say that's is not the majoraty but a big enough number of fans for sure.

BJJ comps or PPV is all enthusiasts for sure.

>>39968111
I think it's because MMA has an easier entry point, it's easy to understand someone losing a fight because they got punched in the head a few too many times or kicked in the chest really fucking hard. All the guys I know who like MMA but don't train in any martial art always say "I wish they wouldn't cuddle on the floor for so long", whereas for me it's the only part of the fight I find interesting.

I liken it to soccer vs rugby, here in the UK, soccer is vastly the more popular sport, not because it's a better or more exciting sport to watch, but because it's so much simpler to understand, kick the ball into the back of the net more times than the opposing team. The only rule that prevents you from doing that is offside.

In rugby, the goal is equally as simple, touch the ball on the ground behind the opposing teams posts, however, the amount of rules preventing that from happening are more numerous, and more complicated. You have rucking rules, tackling rules, maul rules, offside, forward passing, knock on rules and so forth.

Most people are simple and they crave simple entertainment, MMA is more adept at catering to that than grappling sports will ever be.

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>>39966157

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Rogan said she could beat a lot of the 135lb men in the UFC

Look at this crisp technique

She said she could outbox Floyd

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>>39968168
>Vince
>Yes Mel?
>Vince get the gas

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>>39968307
fucking sheeple, when the cameras are on, she pretends to be weak as fuck, so her opponent is caught off guard!!

>>39967216
I sparred with Katie Taylor last year , the Ireland professional boxer and Olympic medalist.

Girl could hit. All I had on her was toughness and like 10lbs. She kicked my ass

FAVOURITE COMBINATION

Boxer here.

My favourite is a 1-2, then I duck under and pivot to my right and go 2-3 - this is all upstairs. Catches people off guard so often and looks bad ass.

>>39966133
Wing chun is my favorite martial art

>>39968307
Good example of a great fighter ruined by a terrible coach

>I'll try and outbox this boxer!

>>39966133

MARTIAL ARTS IS NOT ARTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>39968162
Underrated post

>>39966133

MMA IS LITERALLY A CAPITALIST WHITE SUPREMACIST CONSPIRACY AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

-Meryl Streep

Is this true or what?

>>39968397
That sounds fun. Will try shadowboxing now and next bag session.

I always liked a double jab - straight - left hook to the body. Staggered more than a few people with that hook. When they're fresh you might have to throw a long range hook unless you're pretty quick stepping in.

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I wish we martial arts fags still had a home here. Why did hiromoot forsake /asp/ so...

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>>39967160

>>39969282
That's a nice choreography

>>39968865
That combo was my bread and butter when I first started. Most novices think they've defended the 1-2 well and don't do anything to get out of the way of that left hook to the body.

I always hooked Bas Ruuten style in that scenario, a real hard twisting motion going diagonally up. When you caught the ribcage in a funny way it'd scare/hurt the fuck out of people and the next few blows could easily win the TKO if you get them on the ropes or corner.

Another good one is a jab, step under and left hook. You can follow it with a straight right hand. A real test of fast head movement and footwork

>>39969282

Is that Tay-Tay?

>>39969564
No

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>>39966144

Signed up at a gym about 6 months that teaches
>Boxing/BJJ on Fridays
>Karate - white
>Judo - white

Karate and judo alternate every other month

>tfw I missed my first testing session cus I was smoking weed, depressed and played hookie

Old bad habits, man

My first actual text is next week. Nervous and excited as fuck

>>39967066
Jack Dempsey's book on boxing says that the "powerline" of the arm begins at the shoulder and travels in a straight line through the elbow and out the pinky; when punching, "aim" with the knuckle of the ring finger and allow the pinky and middle knuckle to come along for the ride.

tldr: 3 knuckles > 2 knuckles

>>39969282

What a shitty break fall

I'm wondering if the first dude up knew what he was doing

>>39969618

Right now I'm doing BJJ and Muay Thai, shit is fun as hell. I wish it wasn't so damn expensive tho

>>39969619
Wrong. Broken hands imminent.

>>39969282
>women think this is martial arts

That's larping

>>39969674

Fuck yeah, man

It's funny how I signed with huge intrigue for boxing and karate is easily my favorite right now.

>tfw sparred a black belt yesterday and won by classmates unanimous decision

The black belt is a 45 yo man with a fucked up back he injured years ago. Still couldn't believe I won though. Like pottery

>>39967160
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>>39969781
if you're a beginner he let you win

and don't write back about what fire he was throwing and shit like that, he let you win

>>39969996

I know

I threw a hook kick and caught him in the chest with it

after that he lit me up rest of the match but the class said won cus i fought well for my low rank.

When i woke up this morning i could feel where he punched me
feels good

>>39970131
good shit son

>>39966176
>Took a trial class, never rolled
"Bjj is butt scooting" lel

>>39966133
So is Jiu Jitsu a good martial art to learn or is it just a meme?

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>>39968327
>mfw ronda was only petending to be weak when she was obliterated, cried on ellen and then got obliterated again. just to come back a third time and be all "psyche, I was stronk all along" and make millions when she bets on herself to win

>>39968168
that speech was so fucking funny I cant believe anyone even grinned.
yes, Trump made fun of a crippled guy and that's really immature for someone that's about to become president, but the drama in her voice made it sound like he raped and killed someone

>>39967993
>>39968111
>>39969205
moar goddamnit

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>>39970629

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>>39970781

>>39967182
What the fuck is this?

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>>39970793

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>>39970858

>>39967066
Last three only if your a boxer in the 1920s and punch exclusively with a vertical fist.

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>>39971028
Or a wing chun guy i guess... Poor upright bastards.

>>39967066
First two, much harder

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>>39968168

>>39966142

i punch very hard

he screams a lot

i win

>>39972153
isn't vince jewish tho ? not that makes him bad or anything, not all jews are far left like streep

>>39967712
>that's why judokas have 3 different entries into kata guruma now
Implying wrestling, sambo and bjj didn't have them already.
You've read my post, but haven't understood a damn'd thing about what it was. If you like Judo, learn about its history.
Ashi-garami was of the original Kano technique, was in the Gokyo, removed and only worked in th Goshin Jutsu. If you go and ask what ashi-garami means, you'll get more correct answers or close to in a Bjj school than in a Judo school. Isn't that a shame?
Now to the double wrist lock that so many young wreslter call Kimura... It's fucking gyaku ude garami! This technique, not only is forbidden in competition, but also has lost its name twice to Bjj! Fuck that.
This not to say that the proper way to work ashi-garami comes only from bjj and no other MA or combat sport.
If Bjj follow the same path of Judo in trying to differenciate itself from Judo focusing on groundwork and losing focus on standing techniques.
Judo is a decaying sport, only the competition Judokas don't see it.
>It's also a shit thing to say when the vast majority of bjj comps are about scoring points rather than sub only
Implying that sub only is worth crap if you don't heavily penalize guard pulling and sitting.
and most fights are boring as shit for 10 minutes.
>and most fights are boring as shit for 10 minutes
Implying that 4 minutes bout are any better for the practicioners. The current set-up is for fatass tv watching only newbies that don't practice. If I were to train only the Television mashable Judo you get, I'd rather do Wing Tsung, because it would be a billion times more efficient.
Hopefully Bjj is not cuckholded as Judo is now. Yeah, it is the right term, because Judo has to witness its Tv ratings wane while MMA raise and can't do shit about.

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>>39967953
>How so? You gonna pull guard and choke someone? Work that sweet reverse 50/50 berimbolo worm twister nut crusher you saw on youtube? Or are you gonna throw someone flat on their back onto concrete?
At least they know how to do double and single leg in bjj... Oops, I forgot, you can't touch the legs.
Just kidding and tauting you, you only get a shido now, thanks IJF.

>>39970455
It's a godly martial art. But it is ruined by schools who see competition as the sole way to outshine other schools, while the competions rules specific to bjj are shitty at best.
Plus it fun as hell, because you can sin at will!

>>39972374
>Implying sambo and bjj didn't have them already

Unless they went back in time and learnt them then travled to the future again to claim them first, then yes anon, im implying they didn't have them already because Sambo and BJJ are decendants of Kano's Judo.

And you speak of history books.

>>39966144
mma- 6 months
did a bit of TKD and kickboxing when I was a freshman

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>>39972511
>Sin at will

>>39966144
Boxing and Muay Thai

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Martial arts noob here looking to do jujisu. How important is strength training for martial arts? I understand that technique is most important but how much strength training do you guys do?

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>>39972545
It is common to newbie to think that they invented all the techniques. This happened to Bjj too When it travelled out of Brazil: Suddenly, Juji gatame became the armbar. Other sample of symptoms of that illness were given earlier in the thread.
Kano didn't invented him neither, and a lot of sambo techniques, despite Judo willing to claim them as sole and unique origin, come from central asia traditional wreslting like kurash.
It's more a matter of politics and national pride than the actual origin of a technique.
.gif for the love of the art: Beautiful kesa katame from yoko tomoe nage

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>>39966466
Run

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>>39972899
Strength will help you out against people your skill level and smaller dudes/women. All things being equal, the more physically fit guy will come out on top.

I typically do 3-4 days of jits per week with 2 days dedicated to compound lifts (squats, deads, bench, ohp, rows). I find that's enough for me to maintain my functional strength, and not atrophy.

If you really enjoy bjj and want to get good - dedicated most of your time to training. Don't rely on strength as a crutch - as that often happens starting out.

Good luck familia.

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>>39973167
>>39972899

>if you want to see real Judo, watch the women train. -Dr Jigoro Kano

By this he meant the women MIST learn proper tech because they cannot simply muscle through the failed tech like we can.

If you are going to get into Jiu-Jitsu, im gonna say keep doing Jiu-jitsu to get better at Jiu-jitsu.

Absolutlely work on your atheletiscim and you flexibility as well, but in the end you cannot fake a good jiu-jitsu. You will find that women and manlets can indeed seem to effortlessly pin, choke and submit at various levels of your training. Do not underestimate your fellow students in BJJ or Judo because they seem smaller and weaker than you.

>>39966466
>>39966634
Basically this. Sparring is such an intense fucking workout. Especially if you get into BJJ or Judo; Randori is fucking crazy

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>>39973277

Pro wrestling >>> BJJ
Get fucked BJJ fags

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e6khZnrh4RE

Id like to do some BJJ.

I have RSI in my right wrist which makes it painful sometimes to bend my wrist back, am I going to have to treat this before I go?

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>>39973718
You should, I could become even more chronic than it is now. You have some rehab move to do and you have to correct the bad pattern that generate the RSI.
If you practice correctly.
.gif related start to do it with just one hand doing the combo and the other palm on the ground like normal push-up. start on your knees if needed.

>>39968307
Why are females, even the professionals, so bad?

They almost always looks like they have no idea what they're doing.

>>39974412
Women are disgusting vile creatures only suitable for raping.
They shouldn't be doing these kinds of things ever
Any male child could beat Ronda, who's supposedly the greatest female boxer ever

>>39973468
Kazushi has the height advantage and reach advantage too which is why he just digs in to that shitty ground retreat. Fucking manlets when will they learn

>>39968307
>She said she could outbox Floyd
there's no way she is this fucking delusional

Sage will fuck ur gf and backflip away

>>39966144
BJJ Purple (Instructor)
Just started doing Judo
Plenty of wrestling at my gym too
Did about 4 years of Muay Thai, but not anymore

>>39966176
>implying you could stop the butt scoot

>>39966894
Wrestling is a much better compliment desu. Really like Judo, but wrestling first, Judo later.

>>39967629
Holy shit is that nigga tapping to a knee reap? What a faggot.

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>>39973364
Don't be a foggot, im saying it's important to think about getting the correct tech done as a priority in grappeling arts.

>>39966133
This is the body I want, but with more traps and lats

>>39977020
That shit will grow on him as he develops further
Kid is only 20

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>>39977127
Yeah, a freak athlete. He really is. For sure.

[spoiler]did you see that video where that guy got attacked by alligators? You havn't? Pull that up real quick jamie.

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>>39977163
Fuck I need more alpha brain

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>>39977212
>DUDE WEEEEEEED LAMO

>>39969744

Jack Dempsey > you

What is boxing stance, bladed vor squared?

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>>39977286
JOE THINK KETAL BELL ALPHA
MONKEY FACE ALPHA
JOE THINK JOE ALPHA
MONKEY FACE KETALBELL JOE TOP ALPHA

>>39972462
>implying 90% of BJJ competitors know how to do them properly

It's pretty obvious that the vast majority of judo schools still teach people how to do throws involving leg grabs. Only they're not limited to the single and double leg football tackle shit most bjj competitors do

>You've read my post, but haven't understood a damn'd thing about what it was.

I understood it completely, you failed to understand mine. If you want to learn Judo how it was taught in Kano's time, then go do that. If you want to learn an art that is highly adaptable to different situations, keep learning contemporary judo. I know the "kimura" is gyaku ude garami, I know an americana is ude-garami, I know that a mata leon, or RNC is hadaka jime.

Ashi Garami is still in my Gyoko book, when do you think it was taken out?

>>39969282
Thank you, Mr. Skeltal

>>39966144
Not a martial art, but I used to practice boxing heavily. In my prime of it I was 165 pounds at 6"0. I was really lean, and honestly I depended a bit too much on my endurance as opposed to actual footwork.

>>39966780
do you fight MMA, when no then why?

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>>39977705
Why don't we think of boxing as a martial art?

I mean, its a skilled tech based artform. It can be used to destroy or protect. It can be used to defend oneself, and it is carried ontoday in the form of sport.

Sounds like it qualifies as would Judo, as would others like it.

Its as if we think martial art = faggy orient shit.

>>39966133
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKUDRW9EA2c

>>39978109
not him, but i find the term martial art strange anyways.
Boxing is a type of sport, i fail to see how it is an art

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>>39978606
Judo has also become "a type of sport"

The difference is boxing has been around forever and clearly has self defence aplications more so than say, basketball which is also a sport.

Was boxing not once an art used for hand to hand combat? For as lomg as we could form a fist? The greeks did it right?

>>39978626
how exactly would boxing be used as an art?
The only application i can think of is choreographed fighting in movies or theater

>>39978109

I'd say the difference between a sport and a martial art, is that originally a sport is designed to be a competition, as opposed to actually being for combat purposes.

boxing is not for self defense, neither is muay thai or judo.
it just so happens that the techniques are applicable outside of their originally intended areas. and training full contact allows the person to use it effectively.

martial arts on the other hand were designed for fighting. thats why so many of the chinese martial arts incorporated both weapon and hand forms. the original intent is different.

these days we dont fight anymore, and hence its been reduced to a bunch of neckbeards who dont train full contact, because the techniques were never designed to be done that way anyway.

>>39977336
side on. nobody fights squared unless in clinch range.

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>>39978673
>Judo is not self defence

buhh...?

I think you need to pick up a history book on Jigoro Kano. Goals for the development of the human potential and education aside, Judo was about self defense. He just took out a lot of filler he deemed nasty and doing so allowed for a less dangerous form of jiu-jitsu competition which had been around for years before he created his alturistic view on the tradition form.

>>39978759
and these days its a sport dominated by either asian guys taken from their parents and trained since the age of 12, or done by white guys who muscle their way through because heavyweight division has no upper limit.

>still not a MA.

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>>39978802
>and these days its a sport dominated by either asian guys taken from their parents and trained since the age of

Who do you mean? The mongolian wrestlers? Because im pretty sure anybody who is serious in the Judo world right now can attribute to training since a young age.

>still not a MA

Implying indeed. I think that might just be your opinion. Although i am not denying its overwhelming sport focus, it just has too much history and application to not be a martial art, imo.

You are more likely to find more working martial arts in "sport" judo than in "non sport" Wing chun, for example so where does thst put us?

can i bulk doing kickbox 2 times a week and a full body routine the other 3 days
hungry skelleton here

>>39971196
are they both boys?

>>39966133
I want to practice one, give me advice /fit/?

>>39976737
It actually work extremely well in that configuration because your hips are actully restrained. This prevent Uke from rotating hips to aleviate the pressure on the knee.

>>39966144
BJJ black belt
green belt in Judo years ago.
Starting all again now in Judo after years of wrestling as stand up.
Judokas don't like my morote gari, my te-guruma, my ura nage or my kata guruma nor my kibisu gaeshi...

>>39980302
>Judokas don't like my morote gari, my te-guruma, my ura nage or my kata guruma nor my kibisu gaeshi...

Why so? Because you are good or because you are sloppy?

>>39980302
>Leg takedowns and suplexes

Lol no doubt they don't

>>39966172
Judo is beast man, I say that as a BJJ guy myself.


Nogi BJJ, still a lowly white belt (my gym does have a legit nogi belting system).

>>39972899
Most of the coaches I have say that while BJJ allows for a smaller weaker person to come out on top. If skill is equal strength wins all the time. There's gonna be guys that lift at competition, having a strength base will bring up your game higher.

I do 5/3/1 and make it to BJJ 3-4 times a week and lift 3-4 times a week as well, usually taking 1 day off.

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>>39980491
It can even be hard to say how much strength and weight can make up for tech in BJJ. Like i am 6ft 1 and 200lbs, but my top game sucks, i always feel more comfy on my back playing lasso and spider guard.

>>39980508
I prefer playing on my back too going for triangles and stuff, but I started in september so I'm as fresh as can be. My head coach says I'm a year ahead of where people usually are though who start.

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>>39980529
>I'm a year ahead of where people usually are though who start.

And in years to come you will know that ull year suprisingly only means you took only a couple of steps on your whole journey to come.

BJJ is a long hard game but it is savage pleasure and we are born to it.

>>39980386
I'm not good, not sloppy either, but they can't block/evade/counter me but for a few among the club. (that 189cm 108 kg 17 y.o. brown belt fuuuuuuuuuuu*k) Got toyed with last seminar with some of the national level player, it was so fun!
What saddens me the most is that all the youngsters will only do randori in the oly ruleset. Good part is that they're very open to anything that can give them an edge in ne-waza plus I'm good (at least in their terms) at transitioning from top to dominant position.

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>>39980655
>that 189cm 108 kg 17 y.o. brown belt fuuuuuuuuuuu*k

Jesus christ that is some stocky shit. Fatty or born god?

>>39980667
Born demi god. He's gifted both physically and for Judo, but not focused enough. He has to fight to make the cut for each and every competition. He's no fatty, but like the booze too much (beer is 16 here).

>>39980636
>BJJ is a long hard game but it is savage pleasure and we are born to it.

when did /fit get so reddit-tier?

>>39980636
I don't doubt it at all, but coming from being a skinny kid with asthma with no athletic prowess at all and eventually lifting to gain weight and still not being athetlic. Enjoying and being passably not horrible when starting a sport is a nice feeling.

>>39966144
Sambo

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>>39980796
sounds like you're describing me, except I did boxing, it's 7 years later and I've turned my great genes into nothing but alcoholism and broken expectations from my coach.

>>39967216
She's tapping out skeletons who have no clue what they're doing.

What are martial arts classes/training sessions like?
When I lift I come and go on my own time and do what I want, what do you do when you come into your martial arts gym? Is there always a coach there? Does he have a plan for you every day?
I just hate being that guy who just walks around not knowing what to do while a bunch of other people do.

>>39981872
from my experiences from BJJ, boxing and muay thai gyms the formula is basically
>you show up to a class that is at a fixed time
>everyone starts by doing choreographed warm ups
>everyone lines up and does exercises the coach tells them to do
>maybe light sparring with some combo or some shit in mind
you don't have to worry about spilling your spaghetti at a martial arts practice, especially at a beginner level. (a significant amount of guys who go into martial arts are dweebs and nerds anyways, so you're probably more likely to be silently judged at the gym than there)

>>39966144
>Judo-brown
I haven't practiced in years though

>>39966133
Does he have fake teeth painted on his mouthguard?

>>39981070
>/fit
>calls others reddit

>>39981803
They are wrestlers aparently, and i thought anons are always saying if a girl and a guy are physically the same, male genetics will still allow them to be stronger.

How many excuses can you make?

>guys who lose are just shit, and a guy is only ahit until they are not shit

>>39974668
Guys like you tend to forget your mother is a woman too.

what martial art to do? just want to be able to reck guys who are in my way and still get gains

kickbox?

>>39982597
But what if I'm really old, like 27, and never did any martial art in my life

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>>39984371
here:
>lift wieghts
>lift body
>run
>eat better
>Judo
>boxing

6 months of this regular 3 times a week and you will remove 80% of what is waiting for you on a night out.

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>>39984380
Get started now, be glad you can start today and not tommorow No time to waste.

>>39966144
Karate. 2.5 yrs

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>>39984474
Ooo wat style?

>>39967041
>the stronger you get the better your endurance will be
Not always the case.

>>39984464
Will do anon

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>>39966144
I've done HEMA for but I'm a little disillusioned with it or at least burnt out at the minute.

Gonna focus more on my Ju Jitsu this year.


>>39984380
I train with a guy who started at 59!

It's not THAT big a deal. At 27 you'll easily dominate the teenagers weight and strengthwise anyway the only real concern is your healing ability and bone fragility. We don't bounce around as much as teens. So that's something to consider if you want to get into Judo or MMA.

You'll be more concerned with your cardio for the first few weeks anyway.

>>39984448
What do you mean with 3 times a week? Everhthing on the list 3 times a week?

>>39984761
Yes. You only eat and drink 3 times a week too.

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>>39979005
Asking same about MMA

>>39984945
>>39979005
ofcourse but it's going to burn ALOT of calories. Just bulk even harder.

>>39984380
I've practiced with plenty of guys who started at 30, even much older than that. when you've reached 40 you'll either be regretting that you didn't start at 27 or being glad you did.
and even then I'm currently practicing boxing with two guys who are over 40 who started like two years ago

>>39984945
It's difficult, I did muay thai/kickboxing 3 times a week and lifting 2-3 times and you get pretty worn. Depending on your fight gym they do a fair bit condition and body weight strength stuff as well so you can burn out from not resting enough if you aren't careful. It's definitely possible though just listen to your body and take a day off when you need.

>>39966144
been practicing boxing for almost 8 years now I think. Recently I kind of backed out of the competition team and started doing fitness boxing, it's much harder physically but I'm mostly starting to worry about my head since I've already been knocked out in practice dozens of times. my jaw has taken so much punishment I feel like I've gotten jaw arthritis, if that's even a thing

>>39985130
Google TMJ. There's a bunch of things that can cause it, but I wouldn't be surprised if chronic blunt force isn't on the list.

Traditional ITF Taekwon-do. Planning to pick up either BJJ, Kick- or Thai boxing along with mastering ITF, then starting MMA around 26

>>39985130
>I've already been knocked out in practice dozens of times
Jesus where do you fucking train? Full speed sparring is one thing but getting knocked out?

>>39985156
yep, I've definitely got that. the jaw locking open is one of the most discomforting and painful things I can think of.
>>39985191
we like to take long ass sparring sessions sometimes and usually with guys over 100kgs, controlling your force will get harder and harder the more tired you get

I don't really care about my jaw, the pain passes, but I genuinely worry that I've done permanent damage to my brain. I don't have a good memory but I really can't remember if it has always been like that

>>39985267
>cant remember how bad your memory has gotten
sry but htats pretty funny

>>39985267
I used to kickbox from when i was in my early teens, i stopped when i started to get head aches, ,y jaw locks up all the time.

>>39985185
>Anonymous 01/12/17(Thu)13:57:13 No.3998
Hey Louis

>>39985267
Dude fuck yeah, we do mostly half speeds and full speeds if you decide to do a fight and I never hear of any of our guys getting knocked out. I'm pretty sure our trainer would get pissed if dudes were getting knocked out in training. That shit does mess with your brain. I'd switch gym or something before you jack your brain up mild memory loss isn't too bad and can probably be compensated for.I'd honestly recommend making a complaint if I thought it actually do something, your trainer sounds like a bit of a dickhead. I've been collected in the jaw and have a bit of clicking action going on too might go see a doctor for it now you've reminded me.

>>39981314
Care to elaborate fedor?

>>39985328
yeah like I said, I've stopped sparring altogether and am staying there mostly because I feel it's the best place I can train to be in the best shape I can be.
I have actually considered doing BJJ, that sounds like fun too. (thought about judo but apparently head injury is even more common in judo than boxing)

>>39985396
Just don't let yourself get choked out. Tap. There's no reason to let blood build up if there's a chance of a clot or other injury present.

>>39985396
Ah i missed that, but yeah that was a good call. I think I'm the same I'll always do some form of martial for exercise even when i'm not competing. Honestly the best exercise I've done and the more consistent.
>I have actually considered doing BJJ, that sounds like fun too
At this point I have to ask if you're me. I have been too but the classes for BJJ here are a bit pricey so I'll have to see how I go. Doesn't surprise me with Judo though again I would have liked to have done it but it isn't offered here, small cities suck bruh. That and I'm very wary of styles outside kickboxing/boxing since I trained kempo in highschool and I didn't realise just how shit it was until I went to my current gym a few years ago.

>>39985422
Tap early. Get rid of your ego or you will end up severely hurt and not be able to train for weeks/months. There is no reason not to tap to a locked in submission, unless you training for a fight then maybe.

>>39984380
I started at jits at 29, wish I started earlier, 33 now.

>>39970839
A virgin

>>39967041
>confusing power and force production

>>39970839
true autism. unbridled and pure.

>>39978109
I was taught that boxing was more sport than an actual form of self defense. Sure, martial arts are used in sport as well, but their basis was for defense. Boxing was developed under the condition of competition as opposed to protection.

>>39985628
You're right.
However it's so good that it is almost unbeatable in a self defense scenario.

Lastly, modern boxing is a derivative of a much more brutal and violent form of combat. One that sent many men to their death.

>>39978983
i have a warped opinion because i dont believe in grappling in general.

my ex-gf was in judo, and i did it myself for a few months. didnt like it on account that you cant actually hit the other guy.

on a state level where I am, competition is generally dominated by white guys who muscle their way through.
on a national one, its white guys who muscle their way through but still trained quite a lot, but dont do it full time.
on an international level its asian guys who train full time.

i think we have different definitions of martial arts.
i classify something as it not based on traditions, or culture or whatever, but based on its original purpose.

wing chun is designed for fighting.
judo is designed for sport, hence why its safe.
the precursor, actual ninjitsu or whatever its called, would be classified as a proper martial art.

the equivalent is muay thai and muay boran. the latter was made for fighting, while the former is a sport.

that being said, of all the grappling arts, i feel judo trumps bjj in terms of practicality.

>>39985653
>One that sent many men to their death.
the fuck you on about.

queensbury rules merely decreased the number of cuts.

its always been a sport. humans have been using tools for thousands of years, fists were obsolete long ago.

its only now that in civilized society we no longer carry around weapons that they are useful again.

>>39985835
jiujitsu? i think i mean jiujitsu.

w/e

So I know that this way of thinking is frowned upon in the Martial Arts world, but I am going to be completely honest.

I am still in college, and I want to be able to defend myself in the case of a bar fight or some shit like that. I don't want to be grappling and shit (I know that it's good to know)m, I honestly just want to be able to throw punches and dodge punches and look badass.

What do I train? MMA? Boxing?

Ready to get roasted for wanting to train for the wrong reasons

>>39986056
Go into finance and tip the bouncers heavily.

>>39986078
That's fair.

>>39986129
I'm sorta serious. You'll look way more badass if a couple of gorillas who get paid to be dicks are always cool with you.

>>39986157
I don't think I go out enough for that, I mainly stick to house parties. Fights still happen at house parties though

Complete noob here, lifting now but was thinking of getting into a martial art in a few years or so once I am more of less "finished" with my lifting goals, for a few reasons:

>Want to learn how to defend myself properly
>Want to be more agile/athletic

But I know nothing about any martial art. Could someone be kind enough to give me a rundown of the lot of them and what each one consists of, or a place I could easily find info on all the available martial arts? I was honestly looking into shaolin but really assume the only legit way to do that would be to join an actual monestary... As far as what techniques I'm looking for, are there any with exessive running and jumping, grapping is ok too I guess, kicking and punching is good too. thanks

>>39986295
Jujitsu - grappling based, extremely effective, strong ties to MMA. Made to be good in street fights, teaches to fight off your back and while you're on top. Loads of submissions, controlling your opponent when on the ground
Muay Thai - striking, more effective than kickboxing because it involves knees and it involves fighting in the clinch
Judo - grappling/ throwing. Ancestors of jujitsu, more orientated towards throws/ takedowns because of the way scoring works
Sambo - Russian sport, kind of a mix of judo/jujitsu/wrestling. Also involves some striking but mostly to get to the takedown
Wrestling - freestyle or Olympic, teaches control on the ground
boxing - striking sport, kinda obvious
kickboxing striking
Don't waste your time on others, except maybe kyokushin or taekwondo

>>39966144
Wrestling, for 3 years

i dislocated my shoulder on new years eve, how long should i wait before i start rolling again?

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>>39985130
>I've already been knocked out in practice dozens of times.

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>>39986295
You can either hit people or throw them on the ground.

If you like hitting, you can either use your hands or feet..

If you like throwing, you can either focus on getting them on the ground, or focus on mobilising them when they're down.
.

Striking hands = boxing
Feet = tkd
Both = muay thai
Throwing = judo
Grappling = bjj.

Imo if you want self defence, boxing is best. It's simple and easy to learn. Idk about you but I don't want to be on concrete grappling while 4 niggers stomp on my head

>>39985130
Your gym must be shit.

I mean full contact 100% sparring does breed good fighters. But they have short careers and get fucked up physically in the long run.

Get out while you can.

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>>39985130
>I've already been knocked out in practice dozens of times

This does not sound right anon. Avoid places that have gym wars, yoiu should never be taking such hits in the gym.

>>39985868
>the fuck you on about.

I think he's referring to pankration.

>>39985835
>>39985880
You obviously don't know what you're talking about, so you should stop posting.

>>39984590
>>39985070
>>39985517
Thanks for the answers. I guess I will get into boxing, because apparently it is easy to learn and good for self defense

>>39967759
Yes, from that movie about rubber fetishism, the superiority of islam and why suicide bombing is the best thing ever unless you can use nukes on civiians.

>>39966144
wing chun
hung gar
southern shaolin
tai chi chen and yang
tang lang
boxing
kick-boxing
muay thai
ancient chinese projection
a-are these enough anons, i train 5 times a week for 2 hours

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>>39989511
How the fuck do you fit all that in i two hours five days a week anon?

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>>39989511
Maybe leave just a few of those stiking games and get some grappling under your belt anon?

>>39989532
How the fuck do you still believe everything you read on the internet anon?

muay thai for nearly 3 years

currently preparing for national competition. should i win, i then go to the european tournament. should i win there, i go to the world tournament of the federation.

wish me luck brothers.

>>39989532
the kung fu school i go to is based on the mentality of bruce lee and his jeet kune do idea, so we try to be complete in every field since we don't train for others but for ourselves and to know what to do in a street fight where everything is accepted, been training since i was 16 and now i am 19 i enjoy doing all of these styles very much since they are different and our master knows a lot of theory and history of them and always tells us about a style before starting it

>>39989554
i really don't care about belts or shit like that, belts are useless, just a fancy way of these so called "masters" to make some money, you can have a back belt and still get the shit beat out of you on the street since you don't know who you might fight and what he can do, belts don't really mean shit to someone who knows martial arts, you get a belt nowdays just for being present there, is not the belt that maters it's the martial artist, most of the martial artist i consider them a disgrace to kung fu since they have no idea what they are doing, who invented the style and how the techniques are called

>>39966144
MT, 4 years

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>>39989602
>i really don't care about belts or shit like that, belts are useless

I understand what you mean anon, with every made up based on TKD martial art using an expensive belt system and all...

But this is not the case for Judo and BJJ. The belts system as we know it basically started in Judo and as far as BJJ and Judo go are actually decent indicators of your level.

In these martial arts, belts are not given for how long you have been there and in BJJ as far as i can tell you are not any kind of standard "promotion" date or "paying for the belts"

In BJJ you van be a white belt for many years, and the difference between a white belt and the next, blue belt is huge. If you wear the blue belt, you have to be actually able to hang with the blue belts, its self evident there is no pretend.

Im just saying anon, while there is a lot of money grubbing belt shit out there, note that Judo and BJJ don't have 10 year old black belts, take years to achieve and are based on the actual fightig ability (not assumed ability acording to a check list if theory) of its students.

Judo and BJJ are legit and those guys have fought for what they have earned.

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>>39989963
judo and bjj are not really my style, they are very practical since you can drop anyone to the ground and doing so under pressure it's difficult, i know this since we do the enemy projecting ourselves, when we do it standing still it seems way too easy but when you try doing it when someone attacks you it's a complete different situation, you have many variable situations and the opponet weight is moving around. I'm doing all of this in italy, and all the judo and karate schools here have an exam for a belt every 6 months, and the masters don't really care for technique, once while we were practicing this mother with her kid came and was all braging about her son being blue beld in karate and so on so my master took the kid and showed him a photo of the karate founder and asked him to tell his name and the kid had literally no idea who he has and never heard his name, also he asked him to do a basic karate position and he had no idea what it was until the master showed him the kid said that they just show them what to do and they do it, don't even have to say the mother got all angry and my master refused to accept him since he was too little anyway, he only takes kids that are at least 12 years older since they are easier to deal with and they can actually learn something and remember it. I don't know how BJJ schools work but from what you told me they seem great. Anyway my master told us that the belts originally were 3 white black and red, you started with a white belt then black then white again and so on, and very few people were able to get to the red belt, but nowdays the belts don't mean that much thanks to the greedy assholes who ruined it for money, seeing 10 years old with black belts and shit it's just ridiculous. It's nice to finally find someone that understands what i'm talking about and be reasonable about it.

How long have you been practicing for?

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>>39990344
3 years training.

While your frustrations about Karate are pretty realistic, and Judo does still have a clear syllabus in terms of grading, it would be unfair to tarnish both just because from the outside they both appear to have:
>japanese heritage
>white pyjama's
>belts

It pretty much ends there. You shouldn't be finding a black belt any younger than 17 to be honest. Judo deserves its place in the list of real martial arts, i think people overlook this because its a sushi flavoured MA like karate and aikido.

But if it's just not your style then that is fine. I have much respect for the physical conditioning of Shoalin styles, but have always been turned away by how form heavy Chinese martial arts are.

>>39988631
its the culture of the gyms.

some have the mentality that you train like you fight, and end up having full contact sparring most of the time.
I even hear of gyms throwing newbies into sparring on the first day to see if they've got natural aggression.

they survive though, because they do make good fighters. problem is the fighters tend to suffer, health wise, like that guy.

>>39989337
watch some videos on proper technique first so you dont make a fool of yourself.
invest in a decent pair of wraps. the proper 2m long non-elastic ones, and learn to wrap properly. single most important piece of safety equipment you'll ever buy, aside from a mouthguard.
once you go to the gym, odds are the trainer will take you aside and show you the basic punches, maybe a bit of footwork, then probably direct you to a heavy bag to practice.
at this point, after your first few sessions, once you've gotten a feel for what you can do and how hard/fast you actually hit, you should probably read up on a few articles of how to hit harder. jack dempsys book is quite good at explaining the basics of generating force.

good luck.

>>39990537
only gripe i have with judo is the fact that you cant hit people.

if you're talking about it as a sport, i find nothing wrong with it.

but if you mean to use it for self defense, i find issues with that.
first is the distance needed to perform a throw, its clinch range, meaning one of you has to close the gap. whats stopping the other guy from punching you while you close?
the second is once you're in clinch range, whats stopping the other guy from fighting dirty, i.e. fingers in eyes sort of thing? i suppose if you throw fast enough its okay. but a lot of the throws are based off the gi. t-shirts are more likely to rip before you get enough grip.
the third is that once you get them on the ground, then what? do you go down for a submission hold? if so then you cant run away, and bystanders may hurt you.

maybe against somebody untrained in anything its useful. but against somebody who knows what they're doing i find it difficult to think it would work.

>>39989511
Is that you, Wu?

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>>39990972
Ok i was being polite before anon, but come on it sounds like you have never been thrown by someone who is good at it before.

I know what you are saying about "how can a martial art be complete if i cannot hit or punch" but believe me, the same MUST be said of martial arts like wing chun that do not know how to grapple.

Wing chun teaches you to trade bunches at the distance a grappler WILL clinch you then you WILL get chucked. Fighta are never 100% certain but there is more evidence online, in video to show that grapplers only have the upperhand on strikers only.

If i am a grappler and i need to be in clinch range to fight and i am not already, then i am not in a fight at all and that sounds preferable.

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>>39990999
Underrated

I miss TKDbrah and POMF too. Remember that one thai or phillipino guy thst was super chill and loved anime girls?

When I was a kid I went to some 'hybrid' school for a week lesson deal.
The head guy was telling me about the fundamentals, and got into describing the importance of being fast. He grabbed a piece of paper and wrote out e=MC^2, and started telling me that 'C' was the speed of a punch, so if you moved twice as fast, you hit 4 times as hard.
Even then I knew he was talking out his ass, but didn't try to explain f=ma. I didn't stay there.

>>39991030
You mean Tosh? He was cool. As was Cambo.

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>>39991046
Shit yeah! Tosh! Wonder where he is now? Probably still hitting people and returning with tropies to his pillow wife.

Yeah cambo(will take over the world) was cool too i guess. I seem to remember BJJfag having some real personal issues. Angry guy. I knew TKD was from chicago.

I used to wonder if all /asp/ namefags were actually all just one guy and he just wanted to invent all these martial artist personalities like it was his own anime or sitcom. I find it hard to believe Wu could be real.

>>39991074
Remember Wu's video of himself doing a sidekick combo? I felt sorry for the guy.

I miss all the namefags from /asp/, shitposting with them was fun as fuck.

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>>39991087
I seem to remember a bathrobe gif.

His heart was in the right place. After much bully he lost some weight and aknowldged grappling.

The organised fights that did or didn't go down were pretty funny drama.

Godammit /asp/ what happened.

>>39966144
Boxing

Only way to go.

>>39967025
JUMP
ROPE

>>39990972
i'm>>39990344 and
>>39989602
and trust me you are really stupid, if you think you can punch someone and hurt him while in judo range you have no idea what you are talking about, if someone that does judo gets close to you and you have no idea how to escape you will get thrown to the floor or you will do something stupid as trying to rigid your body and legs and you knee will break, you don't use your arms to throw people when you grip their shirts, you use them to put them in the position you want and then use your body to throw them, escaping from a clinch depends on the person you are fighting it's not that hard unless he is really good, and trust me if we were to talk about 2 really good judo and muay thai fighters the muay thai fighter will lose, muay thai is close range, even closer than wing chun but everything that is close is heaven for a judo martial artist, besides that muay thai fighters have no idea what to do when they are thrown to the ground, muay thai has no techniques for ground fighting.

If one thing could've said from a long term practioner of judo, Bjj, and wrestling. They all cross train. Anyone of any seriousness trains them all. I do actively. Saying judo is bad for self defense is silly. Doing no gi wok, I can translate most every throw to no gi grips, or even with a winter jacket of dress shirt. The art operates off of ippon representing a fight ending impact onto the ground. Judokas train dozens of ways to drive skulls into pavement. Bjj trains dozens of ways to manipulate joints, and wrasslin teaches you to cradle and shoot like a motherfucker. (Though I highly disadvise shooting legs on a hard surface)

>>39991153
That's the gif!

>The organised fights that did or didn't go down were pretty funny drama.

It happened all the time, I wish we got to see some of them.

>Godammit /asp/ what happened.

WWE happened. Fucking Hiro.

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>>39991173
>only

>>39974668

Guys like you will live & die alone . . and nobody will ever remember you existed in the first place.

end it now - kill yourself

>>39966144
Ju juitsu and mma

>>39976957
Not same anon
Isn't that the whole point of sparing? Most of my classes end a 45 minute lesson with an hour of sparring.

>>39990884
Thanks for the tips. I screencapped your post