>power cleans and snatches in Texas Method yay or nay?

>>39952785
Power cleans are already in some variations in practical programming.
Could probably put snatches on the same day, that is if you know how to snatch.

>>39952785
Why do noobs insist on doing dangerous and useless lifts just to look cool?

Just do RDLs or rows, cleans are gonna be too light to help your squat or DL go up.

>>39952877
>Olympic lifts
>dangerous and useless
Maybe if you're a bodybuilder

>>39952785
Bbbhhrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaauaaaaaaaaap

>>39952894
Even for a strength program they do nothing good for any other lifts. You get faster, but not stronger.

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>>39952910
Wouldn't the fast hip thrust help with speed in and squat and DL?

>>39952910
>not wanting to be fast and strong
Even Rippletits recommends cleans

>>39952923

Not as much as you'd think. The big problem with proper Olympic lifts is that they take a lot of effort to get good enough at before you reach the point where they start having enough weight on the bar to get carryover to other stuff. This is less the case with power versions but even then its generally more effective to just try and be fast with simpler movements.

>>39952933
Yeah faster in your craps form low weight Olympic lifts but not for anything else.

Unless you're an Olympic weightlifter or cross shutter you have no business doing Olympic lifts.

>>39952877
>dangerous

Do you really think they are some magical exercises which dammage you like no other lift would? They are like any other lift. They are safe as long as you keep joints in proper position.

Olympic lifting is safer than fucking badmington.

>>39952785
Yes, it's perfectly fine. Texas method like programming is how most US weightlifters program for their squat anyway until they get to candidate for master of sports to master of sports level.

>>39952967
>implying athletes of all types don't benefit from oly lifts
If you want or need to be explosive, the classics are the way to go

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>>39952967
the sour grapes this board feels about olympic lifting goes deep. Sorry it takes more than minimal effort to learn the movements. powerfats and bodybitches are the worst.

>>39952995
I've got nothing against Olympic lifting, it just doesn't make sense to me when anyone but Olympic weightlifters do it.

>>39952986

Which, of course, is why almost no-one outside of Olympic lifters actually uses them to build power.

>>39953044
>Which, of course, is why almost no-one outside of Olympic lifters actually uses them to build power.

Except pretty much any athlete who are involved with any explosive movement.

>>39953059

They almost invariably use 'variants' of the lifts that have little to do with the classic lifts themselves. Most of them make Rips version of the power clean look like a vision from the Bulgarian Olympic team.

>>39953042

What exactly in your eyes would be the criteria of being an actual Olympic lifter versus just somebody who does olympic lifts?

>>39953078
how would you recommend building power then?

>>39953103
>>39953066

>>39953078
Most people that do TM , 531 and other strength programs do them for increased strength. They could modify it to increase their Olympic lifts but there's better programs for that.

>>39952820
I was more thinking power snatches.

You reckon they'd work ok on the light day?

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>>39953139
So let's say I do olympic lifts in TM

Wouldn't power cleans and snatches, squats and deadlifts, and bench and overhead presses all compliment each other nicely?

>>39953066
Are you implying most athletes have shit weightlifting form?

>>39953225

Often. But they're also usually not trying to do the competition lifts. The fact that their hang muscle clean or similar is ugly as shit doesn't mean they're actually trying to do a full clean.