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>>39911875

If I'm 6'9" what do I take to look like pic related?

>>39911891
750mg/wk test e
and about 7k calories.

>>39911891
>tfw 6'3"
>tfw you'll never be 7'10.5"

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Do you guys feel like lethargy is a valid gauge of e2? I know bloods are superior but I'm too lazy to go get them right now.

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>>39911891
>>39911898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkCvHlY4hVA
this is when the mountain lost weight, so you'd wanna get some dbol/sdrol for 6months straight then cut it out to the test E cycle that way you'd quickly fill out that massive frame of yours

that and never stop working out.

>>39911891
EVERYTHING

>>39911922
>lethargy
>too lazy

What you did there. I see it.

Sup boys I last pinned 250mg test last Thursday. Was gonna start pct next Thursday but am thinking fuck if let's just BNC Im gonna blast later this spring anyway. Will I be fine if I have to wait until next week to get more test to start the cruise? Also do I start at 200mg a week or 250? I got some epi and lgd I'm planning on throwing in

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>>39911990
Tee-hee, y'got me senpai. But really I think I crashed my e2 with 6.25md ED of asin with 400mg test/500mg mast e/1.2g tren e.

>>39912065
Also now that circles fucked where can I get some fast btc

>>39912073
i dont know shit about asin can someone explain to me why i feel like thats alot to take with mast and tren ?

>>39912094
Nah I take 12.5 EOD with dbol and test

>>39911925
No.

Consider about 7-10k kcal.

450-600g protein. At least a lb of protein from all sources.

2-3G test
1-2g nandrolone
6-8iu gh
Assorted wet orals dbol/drol

bump
>>39908671
>>39908671

>>39912113
Idk Im 20 now that I did my 3rd cycle my whole family gasps and says I look like a grown man

>>39912102
yeah but id assume the estrogen would metabolize a whole lot more with mast and tren in combo to where you wouldnt need to take a lot.

with dbol and test i can see that. fuck it ill google asin.
>>39912107
capped that

hows the girl doing ?

>>39912147
I dunno. I'm not my roommates keeper. Haven't kept up with her today or yesterday. Haven't spoken to her since I told her to send nudes yesterday. She sent them and then I told her I was busy working.

She told me some shit today through text but it was boring so I ignored it.

test p is in the mail, baby's first cycle starting soon

>>39912174
>first cycle
>1 day ester length
y tho

>>39912174
with test p? you want to pin every day?

>>39912204
oh I remember you, that was me. did you end up picking an oral too?

(I still think you're gonna regret pinning every day and the pip)

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>>39912182
>>39912192
got a tested comp in april, I was gonna go suspension but someone told me prop would be easier

>>39912168
rocky situation as usual sucks mane

Do natties piss anyone else off?

I swear everytime I see a natty who hasn't accepted his place in society I just want to punch him in the fucking face

How can we stop the natty problem?

>>39912215
yeah, I started halo a week ago, made 3 new prs already, I might switch to untested fed because this is nice

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>>39912129
Test is pretty androgenic so yeah that'll happen.

>>39912113
You could also do light derma needling to stimulate collagen synthesis but your idea makes sense to me.

>>39911380
>has allergy to grapes
>is injecting grape seed oil into his ass along with chinese heavy metals on the reg
>test comes back showing a metric fuck ton of allergy markers (don't remember the details)
>must be that one time I threw up that caused it

>>39912230
Grow up you fucking child. How about that?

from a current roidhead m8

>>39912257
ye I'm already doing full skinmaxing routine and also on mk677

Alright, so im fairly new to all of this. What would you suggest to a beginner? How do you all typically get your stuff, from a random guy or from a random website? Is there some sort of legal stuff that can be injected or what? Just began learning about this shit last night

>>39912251
are you taking liver protection for halo? Heard its the worst as for liver toxicity.

>>39912107
is this how you die at 50

>>39912289
Na, but I'm gonna go pick up some milk thistle this weekend

>>39912284

>suggest to a beginner
reddit -> steroids -> wiki
Read all of that, ideally several times. They have beginner reccommendations somewhere in there, I think.

>where to get it
reddit -> sst
Or some roidbro at your gym, I guess.

>legal stuff
Not that I know of, unless you get a TRT script. But doctors are stupid assholes, so that's not likely.

anyone on trt here pinning subQ?

>>39912228
Nah it's cool. I'm just learning that my happiness isn't ever going to be a priority to her so the sooner I learn not to expect things from her, the less I'll be disappointed.

It's not a big deal. Im nothing to her and vice versa.

brehs i have tibial plateau fracture because dog walker pushed me into a parked car on my way riding a bike to pick up groceries

doctor told me that i will have to undergo a surgery and will have to depend on crutches for next 3 months

no gym, no gear, nothing for next 3 months

i literally want to end myself right now

>>39912298
The mountain is my age and looks 15 years older than me. I already get told I look 30-35.

>>39912380
don't (certain?) steroids help with bone growth? I think var do

>>39912380
So do it.

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>>39912393
20k IU of vitamin D3 daily helps alot it didnt just reduce my shin splints it got rid of em. it gets coverted into a hormone so theres that.

>>39912363
I used to
Small doses dont feel that odd under the skin
It absorbs a lil slower but as long as youre consistent with pins not like it matters

>>39912380
I just started lifting again after 4 months post surgery. Gl.

Look into tb500

>>39912463
how much did you inject?

>>39912474
I was doing 100mg/week

>>39912277
>skinmaxing routine
What does this mean? Just using creams and washes and stuff?

You might also look into stuff called copper peptides. Apparently it is faked a lot but the real stuff is pretty good at stimulating collagen synthesis.

>>39912284
>Is there some sort of legal stuff that can be injected or what?

You can get a prescription for pharma test. If you're under 30, you're going to have a hard time. Everyone here told me as much but I still tried and 5 months later all I got was 75mg/week. Not worth it. One more blood test just because I already paid for it and then I'm hopping over to bathtub brewed.

Self-medicate if you have low test. If you're a true beginner, just lift natty for a year or two. Experiment with bulking and cutting - these skills will all come in handy when/if you do decide to jump on.

>>39912523
what was your bloodwork before and after that dosage?

Need advice. I'm 20, sister is 16. She came home a little while ago and then came into my room 1:46 am and asked if her new haircut looked "retarded and ugly" I answered no because it didn't (I have good fashion sense). I then noticed that she was almost crying and so I asked her if someone had told her that. She said yes and I was kinda shocked so said only said "what a pity" (has a better tone in my language). She is usually home by 23:00 so I suspect that she was with a group of friends and acquaintances. What to do? Gonna ask her tomorrow if it was a girl(s) or boy that said it

>>39912580
340ng/dl to 800

>>39912597
Just be supportive. She came to you already knowing that your support was necessary. Maybe buy her a nice hair clip you know she'll appreciate to encourage her that her hair is great.

>>39912597
>What to do?
Inspire her (by example, preferably) to seek self-worth outside of her circle or acquaintances and strive for a higher ideal.

Or idk beat up the person who said it if you can't manage the first thing

>>39912612
This is what I'd do and damn I'm realizing I'm way too nice

>>39912612
I was more thinking if it was a boy that me and my friends go and fuck him up and if it was girls to tell my female friends to be mean to them

>>39912624
>strive for a greater ideal
Young girls place all of their self worth in external validation. Convincing her to seek self worth from within is like convincing me that my roommates pussy isn't heaven.

>>39912597
fuck her right in the pussy and tell her its a warm up before you get to her friends for revenge rape.

and tell her that other womens sense of fashion when it comes in regards to hair is entirely based upon jealously espeicaly if she has to work with them when competiviness is a major factor in women's bitchness

>>39912642
This solves literally nothing. It will embarrass your sister and ostracize her further making her the girl that has her brother beat people up or make her look like a bitch.

>>39912597
see>>39912612

dont beat the shit out of some little snob

he's probably a closet homo and will get rekt by aids before he's 30 anyway

>>39911945
[email protected]

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>>39912612
Great advice
>>39912624
Mediocre advice
>>39912651
Autismo advice

Pack it up lads, it's all over. We covered all the bases already.

>>39912736
You're not even in the porn industry yet and already sucking bimbo's virtual dick

>>39912835
Sucking my dick is a pretty normal thing a lot of people like to do it

>>39912720
>a closet homo and will get rekt by aids before he's 30 anyway
>tfw

>>39912720
Geerally take slavs advice and just do the opposite so I guess go beat that twerp up

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>>39912835

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Random list of training and misc questions for you fags

>Lagging biceps
What do those of you who have notoriously 'hard to grow' biceps do for them? I've tried variations of seemingly everything, and still find that they're just one of my hardest body parts to induce growth on

>Pectoral imbalance
same as above, what do you do? Right pec overtakes my left quite a bit (lower pec.) I've been switching to a lot more dumbbell work to account for this, on accessories at least, but don't notice any difference in strength between left/right

>T-shirts

I like soft fucking t-shirts that fit tightly around the arms, traps, and upper back (chest is alright too) but hate it when they're also tight around the midsection, because every time I bend or move it feels like it rides up

what fucking basic t-shirts that I can buy in a 3-10 pack do you fags like

>>39912878
you're supposed to fuck the little girls I send you not make fun of their hair

christ

>>39912888
trips confirm, kick his ass duder

>>39912896
>bis
Weighted neutral grip chins and preachers
>pec
Cable flies at various angles
>tees
Hanes v neck undershirt buy size smaller than usual

>>39912915
All 6x12 with drops

>>39912896
Do more curls

My best fitting shirt is a kancolle shirt lmao

Then send me a little girl with good hair fagit

>>39912915
>neutral grip chins
haven't tried neutral grip yet, do weighted chins already though, will give those a shot

>cable flies
added these when I revised my routine again, will mess with what angle works best or just cycle through high/low

>hanes v neck

oh god no, I'm a midget so v necks make me look like I'm trying way too fucking hard, I'll try the crew necks though

>>39912934
>my best fitting shirt is a kancolle shirt lmao

mines a fucking random shirt I bought a thrift shop and it has some retarded obscure label I can't track down the source for

it's triggering my autism and I have nothing to soothe it

>>39912953
Chest level cable flies super set with incline bench

Neutral grip is an arm dominant pull

>>39912392
from the test etc?

>>39912953
Whats triggering me is ive been trying to get this sweatshirt for months

Friend just texted me a pic of some dude wearing it

L i v i d

>>39913019
Androgens just age the face

>>39913020
Show pic

>>39912633
You'd make a good brother - got any siblings?

>>39912646
>>39912736
Yeah I keep forgetting that girls aren't boys.

Been spending too much time here where the boys and girls are both boys

>>39913020
post it on a w2c thread on fa?

>>39912967
will start trying chest level, have been doing them from slightly above

>>39913020
wait like the exact sweatshirt you're trying to buy? kek

>>39913082
I have a sister and I adore her, which is strange. She and my roommate would probably be besties if my sister didn't know how my roommate is.

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>>39913020
Did you ever get a new car?

>>39913113
Not so strange, you've got some pretty deep love feels. I remember lurking when you and your roommate first broke up.

Has anyone in your family met your roommate? Sometimes family members have an instinct that such and such person is not good for you

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>>39913139
>braces

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>>39913076
$wag

>>39913082
Can they cop weeb shit

>>39913139
No
Paid off a student loan and got surgery instead

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>>39913142
First broke up? Like way back to a year ago?

No family has met her but initial reactions from close friends who met her over the summer camping loved her. My best friend from high school said we were dope together and she plays white frisbee hard with my boys.

>>39913184
>First broke up? Like way back to a year ago?
Yeah think so, I lurked a long time but didn't post or trip up because I was so obsessed with doing things the legal way.

I think I may have even posted some stuff about spirituality when you had mentioned that you were thinking of getting into meditation or breathing exercises/pranayama?

Interesting about your friends warming to her, though not so surprising given her shape-shifting personality

>>39913182
Possibly - worth a shot, though you might have to hit up /a/ for that tbqh

>>39911875

>guy flaming me for saying it was a bad idea to bulk as a fatty

Ok, so I don't know what I'm talking about. The logical thing to do would be tell me why it's good, and explain it for me.

Remember, you have a chance here to steer a new bodybuilder and a dyel faggot in a good direction and help me make gains

The fact that you just wrote ' Hhaha look @ this fag lol' makes me thing you have *no* arguement.

Here's MY argument

>Your face looks like shit once you leave teenage % bodyfat

Face looks puffy and bloated. I have a nice face with snken cheeks. That was totally hidden until I got to like 15%.

Why would you try to get fatter at 20%+?

PS: Op SAID he was lifting for girls. Doesn't that mean we should give him advise to be more attractive?

2. The sticky, Lotus, NatT claim that you gain less muscle and more fat bulking at higher bf%.

Are they wrong? I really feel like lotus and natT know a lot about natty BB, and the OP *was* a natty.

Can you disprove it? If lotus is a roleplaying dyel, tell me, so I know not to religiously follow his advise.

I know I look like shit but his advise has me looking much less shit in a very short period of time.

My physique went from a 0/10 to a 1/10 in four months. Not many can claim that kind of visible progressin 4 months.

That was following Lotus's advise.

3. Health:

Being at a high bf % is unhealthy. The OP wasn't even counting calories. He was also IIFYM. The odds his ''bulk'' would be a 1000+ calorie surplus of pizza and milkshakes and cake were I mean, 100%.

But no one wanted to address that- just told him to

"Eat +500"

+500 is a fucking big bulk for a natty . If you're that dyel, like me or him, you don't need +500 to make good gains.

Hell, you can make gains at deficit. So why should he bulk at anything more than +250?

4. The guy's face looked like jello. His hips were wider than his shoulders.

Why bulk if you look like that?

>>39913237
Ah that was over the summer.

lol she's got a date tonight, trying to cover her ass. Easy to find out is offering to bring her food and no response. It's her lunch, so should've been quick.

Besides, her immediately asking what's wrong sends off a red flag that she expects something to be wrong.

Ahaha what a ho.

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>>39913273
Forgot pic

What would you consider the edge of supra physiological test? 1300?

Where do most people cruise at?

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>>39913182
>Makoto-chan in front
Finally best girl getting the recognition she deserves

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>>39913165
Tfw no bracefaced qt Chilean suicide girl gf.

>>39913182
>Paid off a student loan and got surgery instead

Ah.

>>39913352
>edge of supra
~1-1200
>Where do most people cruise
Most bloods on SST seem to fall around 12-1500 for a cruise.

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>>39913552
Great taste

I know it has the 3 best girls on the front (and miki for some reason)

Just woke up again and remember posting a bunch of edgy shit in here that I don't remember fully

I am sstarting to think the benadryl actually is causing me to feel this edgy and shit since I have been taking like 500mg a day for almost a week now

Gonna try without it

How much nolva to use after a light ostarine cycle? I was thinking something like 20/20/10

>>39913943
Why the fuck every time I post I see this posted immediately after?

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>>39912896
>Lagging biceps

seated hammer curls with a very slight incline
preachers or cable curls, stop just short of full extension and contraction (ie locking out top and bottom) to maintain time under tension

>Pectoral imbalance

just lift heavier, making sure your form is squeaky clean while pushing your bench will automatically iron that shit out

>T-shirts

time to trigger that one autistic kid from 6 months ago

american apparel reg crew necks, at my size the larges I've had for 5+ years are starting to get perilously tight around the upper body and neck while having a decent taper down your core without being super clingy

>>39912926
>>39913031

pfft, rest-pause

>Androgens just age the face

it's too bad they can't cure looking like a potato-shaped baby... or maybe it's baby-shaped potato

>I have a sister

you don't say

>>39913757

have fun with early onset altzheimer's, you dipshit

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Alright lads, getting some real wonky sides

Been running 500 test for just over 12 weeks, only a week and a bit left so getting bloods would be pointless

I've got good morning wood but go soft to bang, tired, glans is dry, and crunchy joints

But at the same time orgasms are completely mental, getting a little bit of acne, some water retention, and nips are getting puffier even though they're not itchy or sore

Libido is non-existent

Ai hasn't changed (12.5 asin eod) since mid blast when I was whacking it solid three times a day

Pls help

>>39914219
Try not whacking it as much? When you jack off too much it desensitizes your androgen receptors or some shit. I don't know if that will help your other problems but it's worth doing anyway. Do you have any other AIs or SERMs? What AI are you taking?

>>39914257
Whacked it for the first time in a week this morning because libido is non-existent, could barely keep it up

Ai is 12.5 asin eod, not running anything but that and the test, also use cialis when gf is in town (about every second weekend)

Have nolva and ralox on hand, dropping down to a 150 cruise in a week and a bit and was going to use them to clear up some puffy nips

>>39914132
>>>Androgens just age the face
isnt this a good thing anyway, who wants to be a baby faced fuck? it ages it in the good way, not the bad way where you get wrinkles and shit

>>39914331
ur underdosing AI , every retard on forums gives the same shitty advice on AI dosage. You will NOT crash your estro with Aromasin or Exemestane and even with Letrozole its hard to crash it if you're on a dose of AAS.

50MG of Aromasin EVERY DAY will lower your Estradiol by about 50-75%.

People used the studies in women with breast cancer to decide that AI completely drops your estrogen by 80-100% But in men it's way weaker.

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2003-031279

>>39914340
if your talking about chin gains then yes there are some even if there minor there still noticeable just like wrinkles and bags are. despite it being minor it still ads up.

>>39914407
with anastrozole or exemestane*

>>39914413
and jaw hypertrophy and all the other muscles in your face too though

how do I get hand/grip gains?

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>>39914331
Judging by your symptoms, I think you might actually be dosing the AI too often, and your symptoms are cause by too low estrogen. From the last thread peek posted a paper and image that I shall repost - http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2003-031279

He also said this

-quote-

>24 hours after one 25mg dose estrogen levels are reduced by 70-80%
>72 hours later estrogen levels are still 40% below baseline even though the drug itself is almost completely eliminated
>120 hours after initial dose estrogen levels return to baseline (without rebounding)

tl;dr asin is good shit, don't go nuts with it

-end quote-

Basically you haven't let your estrogen levels recover whatsoever and have been constantly killing it. Your body might have started doing weird stuff (puffy nipples) because of the estrogen deficit but that's just bro-science from my part. I recommend you take a few days off aromasin (4 days since last pill) and then start doing it e3d or maybe even e4d since you probably have like no aromatase in your body at this point.

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>>39914257
>When you jack off too much it desensitizes your androgen receptors or some shit.

>>39914340

there's a difference between looking a little more mature, and looking fucking 10-20 years older

>>39914439
>>there's a difference between looking a little more mature, and looking fucking 10-20 years older
for us previously-babyfaced faggots this is a good thing though since it bumped us up from little kids to actual adults

>>39914449
Who the fuck has a baby face past 20?

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>>39914439
>there's a difference between looking a little more mature, and looking fucking 10-20 years older

fucking lol ive looked like i was 24 since i was in 5th grade, me being 5'10 with a sharp jaw didnt help my case in the slightest.

add a few wheights and a healthy diet then everybody thinks im old enough to smoke no problem, ahh reselling cigs in high school without geting ID was nice.
>>39914449
pic related is my response to you

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>>39914458

>so desperate i am now following my families advice xDDD
>taking these random retarded supplements
>getting more than trace fat in my diet, started taking fuckloads of fish oil
>some NAC bullshit

pre-suicide desperation #blog

>>39914458
That guy from the game of thrones.

>>39914469
I like NAC

How much nolva to use after a light ostarine cycle?

>>39914469
fats are good desu you should be eating a jar of peanut butter a day.

>>39914439
Keep me updated on how you're liking the blacktops pls

>>39914482
The mountain? That's not a baby face he's just fat. He's how we started this conversation, he looks 45 at 25.

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>>39914407
>>39914436
So you two are referencing the exact same study but giving opposite advice?

>>39914528
im the guy who said people underdose,
the reference range of estradiol in men is 10-40 pg/mL. The ideal range is 10-20. When you are on AAS as much as 10% of the testosterone you take is aromatized into Estrogen. The human male produces about the equivelant of 100mg of test e /per week naturally. If you're on 500mg of test your estrogen is potentially 5x higher than it usually is. If you cut even 80% of it out, you just bring it back to reference range.

>>39914528
just do 2 weeks with high dose asin and 2 weeks with moderate dose asin(whatever that is) then 2 weeks no asin and you should know what is close to what you want to feel like.

preferble with test E 250-500mg and you should find a decent ideal for your body since hormones act differently to different people.

>>39914484
Who knoes shat the fuck I am goihg to wind up doung at this point im fcking kiterally losing my mind now I am typing this while crying like a bitch I cant even see mu phones keyboard

Going literally fucking insane

>>39914596
take some letrozole mate

>>39914573
These numbers are absurd and irrelevant considering the variations in test production, circulating aromatase and 5ar.

>equivalent 100mg test e per week
Lmao test e is about 60% actual hormone by weight so I think you're confusing yourself. Average test production is 4-7mg/day.

Your numbers are fucky and so are you.

>>39914609
I havrnt cried once until now since starting gear I dont need fucking ai

>>39914615
oi bimbo u fucking ugly cunt, u should know a cruise dose of 100mg of test e will bring you to normal values bloody poofta.

>>39914620
Damn you fucked your life up hard.

>>39914577
Some anon yesterday said doing ai for long periods of time on a cruise is bad for your liver but I'm on trt for life. How the hell am I supposed to keep my estrogen down if that's the case?is AI induced liver toxicity/damage something to worry about. 220 test c a week

>>39914638
AI isn't liver toxic, AI is just notorious for fucking lipid values which may or may not have negative consequences for liver health.

You'd just have to get bloodwork done regularly like any sane person would. On that note, a reasonable AI dose of 6.25-12mg e3d shouldn't have any major health impact, but again it's all relative to the individual.

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>>39914620
> I dont need fucking ai
that felt like your hardest words you've typed all year.

you might need it to fight back the sadness buddy. alcohol would only make your hormonal hiatus worse
>>39914638

> AI induced liver toxicity/damage

well ofc anything taken orally can cause damage to the liver if its methylated then your double fucked.

if your that concerned about it then id recommend all three of TUCDA, NAC, milk thistle

>>39914469
I'm sorta new to this general, what the fuck happened to you to make you so depressed? What did you do to cause it to be like that, so that I know what to avoid.

>>39914660
No. that's bad advice. Tudca would be all he needs, milk thistle and nac only support already healthy functioning livers. Adding these compounds to a compromised liver only compounds the fact that the liver has to filter more product when it's already taxed.

It would be stupid, as well, to take tudca when he's worried about AI impacting liver health through lipid values since tudca has a negative impact on lipids as well.

>>39914650
Yeah thanks, that's what I was referring to. My Dr manages my trt. He wouldn't fuck me up would he? Will taking tudca and milk thistle protect me. I don't drink alcohol at all. Damn so trtgiven to me bybmy dr is about to shorten my livers life span...

>>39914672
ahh i see well the general logic is that you take those 3 in combo 1 month before starting your prohoromone(before the ban) only cycle so the chances of having damage is dramaticly lessened, but if its already broken then i can see the logic of droping the extras to give the liver better chance at fixing itself.

>>39914678
No. jesus. Actually go research what these compounds do. Tudca doesn't just build a fortress around your liver.

Tudca is an ox bike byproduct that helps maintain enzymes that shuttle bile to the pancreas. Methylated AAS prevent these enzymes from doing their job properly causing blood filled cysts and pockets in the liver, due to bile inaction.

None of these functions are even remotely related to AI mediated lipid issues.

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tfw u will never punch glands in the head so hard that his glands get destroyed and hes freed from his curse

>>39914734
He cursed himself so it's whatever.

>>39914701
Thanks guy

>>39914734
Bawling like a bitch cant stop sobbing lmfao so fucking stupid I cant even remember the last time my eyes watered

>>39914627
says the guy that does gay for pay porn lmao

>>39914753
As for your doctor, who knows how educated he actually is on male hormones but if he's not a urologist, a sports medicine doctor or a youth clinic physician, chances are he's going to not really help with much of anything.

And no taking regulated moderate amounts of AI won't fu k your liver up due to lipid issues.

You should just drink fu King water and make sure your omega 3 and omega 6 ratios are in balance; ideally 2:1 ratio of omega 6 to omega 3.

>>39914761
And? I'm getting paid because my body is a commodity.

I'm not depressed bawling my eyes out because I deformed myself.

>>39914779
It's an anti aging clinic I think. They specialize in nothing but testosterone replacement. He seems pretty cool. Young 30's bro Dr

>>39914797
Then chances are he knows his shit and you should trust his judgment over mine and the rest of this boards.

>>39914787
ur body isnt a commodity its a fucking cum dumpster for men hahahaha u fucking delusional loser

>>39914807
>tfw I got good insirance and I don't pay a single cent for 220 test c a week.
But thanks guy I know I should prlly stop being so neurotic but I want to be sure I'm being safe. Thanks for the info

Ok out of nowhere the bawling and crying stopped and now I feel completely relaxed, I am gonna be put in a fucking mental insitution soon this feels weird as fuck like my body isnt my own, it feels detached

>>39914832
That's a good deal dude. Keep us updated but it seems as if you're in good hands. There's no reason to assume you will be anywhere near fucking your body up on such a moderate amount of test though.

>>39914833
Honestly bro this is probably a bad suggestion but you can get poppy seeds at a store and make poppy seed tea with them and get pretty high, it's basically legal morphine. I don't recommend using recreational drugs usually but if you're on the verge of killing yourself it might help you to experience a little happiness.

>>39914812
That makes it a commodity; a sought after good that maintains value. Regardless of whatever descriptors or quality judgments you need to make to preserve your ego on 4chan, my life isn't fucked up because I'm making returns on an investment.

>>39914891
I'm laughing at how hard you try to rationalize your life, sad. I guess you have no choice but to be delusional to protect yourself from the harsh reality.

>>39914891
Bimbo how can you get yourself in the mindset to get your ass rimmed and creamed but but still be straight like wtf goes on in your head. Do you ever enjoy it. How're you not gay

>>39914913
Why would I enjoy it
>>39914910
Trip on glands

>>39914913
Not trying to be mean legit curious >>39914891

whats your curls for the gurls routine, lads?

>>39914919
Idk I can see maybe switching state of mind. Maybe you can easily shape your mind through will and meditation practices to not make it so bad.

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>>39914407
>>39914415
>>39914436
>>39914528
I have crashed my estrogen to 0 with exemestane and I have the bloodwork to prove it. AMA nerds

>>39914927
I just turn off. You act like it's some sort earth shattering ordeal, it's a penis in an anus for all of about 10 minutes with forced intimacy and foreplay.

Worth the easy money.

>>39914945
dissociation can be considered adaptive because it reduces the overwhelming distress created by trauma. However, if dissociation continues to be used in adulthood, when the original danger no longer exists, it can be maladaptive.

Who hurt you mate?

>>39914957
No one I'm not hurt, I saw an opportunity and took it.

It doesn't affect me because I don't tie my masculinity and self worth to how I interact with the same sex or what goes into my body.

>>39914861
how much to get high

>>39914929
Are you a boy or a girl?

>>39914999
>professor oak the post

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>>39914929
What were the side effects you felt when you were nearing/ at 0 estrogen?

What would you say are some tell tale signs your estrogen level is way too low?

>>39914998
From what i've heard one bag of poppy seeds is enough for 1 cup. Make sure they are the unwashed poppy seeds though because sometimes they wash the seeds to take all the morphine off you have to look around

>>39914921
no curls only squats here

>>39915017
i just read up on it. seems like you need atleast 500g for a decent amount. no idea how to prepare this though

Went to get a new gym membership and I stayed for a long ass time giving the desk clerk advice on lean bulking. He and I were so engaged he forgot to take my money, despite validating my keycard and membership. Walked back in and paid, when I could have totally bounced.

I'm a good person.

>>39915037
I sent u an email about the porn stuff. Check it dood.

Low test natty fatty here. Been getting a lot of advice from you guys, and I appreciate it. I intend to cruise long term, so I'll start with low doses (125 mg/wk, almost TRT) and also do a big cut.
I was planning to start pinning this week, but the Bitcoin vendor is being a shit, so no buying is possible for a couple of weeks. I have to drive up to school in NY this weekend, which means I can't get bloods (stupid state with stupid laws) until spring break in March.
What do, /fraud/? Should I wait until March to start so I can get bloods in a timely manner or just yolo it because it's low doses? I fear aromatization, but I'm not sure it'll be an issue with such a dose.

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>>39914999
>Are you a boy or a girl?
I have a paginas soooo?..
>>39915008
>What were the side effects you felt when you were nearing/ at 0 estrogen?
Horny as fuck. Joints hurt. Honestly it's not a huge difference and it's been years since I did that stupid shit. Happened when I first started roiding and taking people's stupid AI advice
>hurrr durrr just take 12.5mg e3d if you are on xyz amount of test
Advice like that SUCKS and you will never see me give it.
BLOODWORK IS KING!

>>39915006
Exactly... Why would you want to get your estrogen down if you are a girl?

Also, why would you if you are a boy... in that case what you would want is to get your T levels up instead... estrogen is good for your skin

>>39915122
It's not dumb, it's a simple recommendation on an amount of product that works for the average person, with the added caveat that yes bloodwork will be the final indicator.

You've even given me that advice before.

>>39915122
0 estrogen and you are a girl? You sure you want our manly traits in your body?

>>39915133
Some people/women have toxic amounts of estrogen or their estrogen progesterone ratios are out of balance or you're a cancer survivor. There are a multitude of reasons why a woman would want to decrease or increase hormone production.

>>39915139
hes pretty hairy for a girl

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>>39915133
>Also, why would you if you are a boy... in that case what you would want is to get your T levels up instead... estrogen is good for your skin
it's time to stop posting

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>>39915136
>It's not dumb, it's a simple recommendation on an amount of product that works for the average person, with the added caveat that yes bloodwork will be the final indicator.
Yes it's a starting point but I think that you absolutely must get bloods if you want to accurately dial your shit in.
>You've even given me that advice before.
I don't remember lol
>>39915139
I'm a guy lol
>>39915145
>hes pretty hairy for a girl
I need my fur to keep me warm duhhh
>>39915166
Love this pic. She needs to breed with me.

>>39915166
>not posting the pic with cameltoe
>it's time to stop posting

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>>39914667
dont know what "i did". got every type of bloodwork run and a sonogram and MRI done on my glands and they can find no underlying cause.

>>39915221
What cycle were you on when it started?

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>>39915221
pic related some of my MRI

been to like 5 specialists one of which was the head of ENT at a huge hospital in a city and specialized in salivary gland disorders, eventually just was told by all of them theres nothing i can do

>>39915229
250 test and 500 severely underdosed tren e. didnt know it was bunk until months later when i saw the source posting about a "bad batch" back when i ordered. even got it replaced for free

was taking caber 0.5mg twice a week. accutane 20mg a day. thats it i think

>>39915230
finaly option is get a knife and keep cutting away at it until the juices run out. reminds me of collar flower ear, expect theres is preventable so long as you take a knife to it

>>39915250
the acinar cells or whatever the fuck are hypertrophied, its not like they are full of liquid

>>39915243

About to jump on test e, hope I'll be fine

Something similar happened on my right side glands, but I got it lanced. Why don't you get it lanced?

>>39915253
Can't you have them surgically removed then?

>>39915254
its not infectious, the cells are hypertrophied for some unknown reason

>>39915258
i "could" but the vast majority of these cases, only the two parotid glands are swollen. i have 8 (that i notice) that are fucking swollen. my face would be a scarred up deformed shitstorm, not to mention the surgery has a high risk of paralyzing your face since the glands are intertwined with major nerves

>>39915267
M8 look at your face, it's worth the risk

>>39915273
i would have huge ass scars right under my eyes that would be fucking retarded

also i would be unable to produce any significant amount of saliva... so yea theres that too. since most people only need 2 removed and i would need fucking the 8 biggest ones removed.

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>>39915282
look on the bright side, atleast you can cosplay as stan smith now

Tfw your dealer hasnt been replying and your getting more and more paranoid

why do i feel like i am going bald now even though i have pics of my hairline before and after and every hair follicle is the same

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Current romanian bathtub chemical concociton

150mg Tren A ED
150mg masteron ED
400mg Test E E3D
100mcg cytomel ED
150mcg ghrp2 x3 daily
150mcg mod grf x3 daily
250mg dinitro DNP ed
ECA

ancils, coversyl 8mg for dat bp, salbutamol inhaler cause tren, 25mg cialis and whatever else is around I guess

Missed the gym twice now due to lethargy. The fucks the point.

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OK so I don't know where the AI will destroy your liver meme because it's the oral devil meme came from

All an AI does is reduce the amount of test that is converted to estrogen. So, you can think of it as "lowering estrogen."
But, crashing your estrogen is not good.
Why? Your liver needs estrogen.
Why? Mechanisms are complicated but basically estrogen lowers LDL and raises HDL.
>http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/93/10/1928 for more details
Maintaining lipid homeostasis - good. Disrupting it by crashing estrogen - bad. AI - good if your use keeps estrogen in range, bad if you use it to crash estrogen?

Now can we please stop memeing that TRTers popping a quarter pill of asin on pin days are going to fuck their livers up and should embrace gyno instead?

>>39915120
>stupid laws
Laws against getting bloods? lmao

Have you checked out privatemdlabs? Just pay for a female hormone panel.

>do I need pre-cruise bloods for TRT doses
How would a natty blood test before hopping on be more or less relevant depending on the dose?

Most people get natty bloods to get a sense of natty production. Do you have confirmation of your "low test" diagnosis with bloodwork?

Keep pharma AI on hand too if you're really fat. Good luck. I feel like you have a lot of ideas (advice given to cyclers combined with advice given to TRTers) confused in your mind though...

>>39915282
What happened to PATIENCE
Sounds like you are no longer convinced that the problem is allergy. Do you still think it's caused by bulimia or was that just an episode?

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>>39915229
>>39915243
It started because of the Accutane. Why are you saying it was hormones?

Oh yeah and who was shilling mastic gum?

How long did it take to start seeing changes to jaw muscles? After taking phosphatidylserine to lower cortisol my teeth feel like they are moving outward, like my face is widening or something. Want to see if I can accelerate this movement with a hard gum.

And, how long should a 100g tin last? Shit is pretty pricey...

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>>39915606
>eating bubble gum like a child
>making it
You wanna grow your jaw? Eat 2lbs of beef jerky a day like a man!

>>39915588
im not sayign its anything, just that it could possibly be me being allergic to the GSO oil that my test used. i switched to mct like 11-12 days ago.

and why do you say its accutane. if you look it up literally no one is complaining of accutane and this shit. and a fuckload of people took accutane, i dont think id be the only one that gets this from it

>>39915627
not to mention i only used fucking 20mg a day. im pretty sure people use like up to 4-5x that and dont get fucked up

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>>39915622
Lel fair enough

Mastic is actually straight tree resin that is supposed to be a good digestive as well but after hearing how ridiculous it sounds I am going to hold off on ordering it.

They really should make something like a grip trainer for the jaw. I bet it would sell and might have medical applications for people who grind their teeth maybe?

praise

>>39915572
Pic of body?

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>>39915627
Dewd I already linked you medical studies that showed the drying and swellinf of the salivary glands via Isotretinoin many times.
>>39915690
I was just joking lol.
But for real when I eat a lot of beef jerky which is usually on keto my jaw gets sore as fuck.
And you get the double whammy protein anabolic gains window cause you are jaw lifting while intaking cattle porteins.
It's sick.

>>39915572
What's the point of running that much shit if u are cutting on dnp? Are u like literally running for mr olympia or something

>>39915805
Yea it slightly alters their saliva production, I read it a little. Still does not make sense that I would be the only one in the world that gets this problem from it, especially at my comparatively low dose

>>39915120
Someone more knowledgeable chime in as well, but I'm pretty sure that 125mg/wk is probably too low. From what I've read low doses of test can have the effect of stopping your natural test production, while barely elevating it to pre roid levels.

>look at face
>get suicidal and shit as u have seen
>take clothes off and flex in mirror
>feel better

>>39916012
rub some vitamin e and progesterone on the glands

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>>39915572
>Current romanian bathtub chemical concociton

>>39915588

ora-plus/ora-sweet > *

>>39915948
>>39915120

125 is fairly normal trt, and any exogenous hormones will have some kind of suppressive effect on natural production

if you actually know you're legitimately low test and not just using it like fat people use ambiguous "thyroid problems" to excuse themselves, 125 would be a decent place to start even without bloods

relatively low chance you're just going to grow (bigger) tits overnight, it's not exactly ideal but the relative risk with that kind of dose is low and you'd probably be fine rolling with that until you can get some actual bloods done

>>39916012
>take clothes off and flex in mirror
>feel better

feel better about what, your face because it suddenly doesn't seem as bad as your body?

why don't more people take epistane if they're worried about e2. seems like a win-win besides cholesterol

what do you guys take for cholesterol btw? Mine is high as fuck, 189 LDL and 29 HDL

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>>39915120
These are my bloods on 150mg ugl test cyp every week and 25mg ibutamoren.
You probably won't need any AI at this dose.
>>39915948
>From what I've read low doses of test can have the effect of stopping your natural test production, while barely elevating it to pre roid levels.
If you put needles filled with test in your ass you are suppressing natural production regardless of dose.
>>39916070
>ora-plus/ora-sweet > *
Never used it. I've heard complaints from customers but they are probably autismo. This is just my preferred method. Well back when I made suspensions anyway.

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>>39916090

Yeah, it's annoying.

>>39916090
Yeah it's chit

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>>39916096
>>39916107
Goduru damuru Jap moot!

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>>39916072
>why don't more people take epistane if they're worried about e2. seems like a win-win besides cholesterol

has a tendency for a lot of people to send their bp into fucking low earth orbit

>>39916082

if the trest was any indication, I'm pretty sure I could run like a gram of test and get away with maybe 6.25mg asin ed

>Never used it. I've heard complaints from customers but they are probably autismo. This is just my preferred method. Well back when I made suspensions anyway.

obv more expensive than the traditional ethanol/glycerol combo, but it'll suspend shit like var at 50mg/ml np with the added bonus of not tasting like satan's asshole after taco tuesday in tijuana

half the time I barely bother chucking it in a beaker to stir unless it's a fuck-off huge batch, just ora-plus then raws then ora-sweet to a boston round bottle and shake the shit out of it for half a minute

>>39916090
Not I

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>>39915572
Dang I missed this post. How long are you gonna run the dnp?
>>39916132
You took trest? Doesn't that shit aromatize like nothing else? No AI on trest?
>>39916147
It was across all boards as confirmed by yours truly and lasted approximately 10 minutes. I work in a MIM role and 10 minutes to full recovery is AMAZING.
Jap moot loves us deep down.

If I'm on 220 test c a week and at 190 lbs 5'6 around 20-23% bf how long until I get gyno or my estrogen blows up. I see my trt docctor on Monday. Pinned 2 days ago. I alrdy have kinda puffy nips since puberty so I'm just paranoid.

>>39913943
Ostarine doesn't shut you down on a light cycle so it doesn't matter anyway.

>>39916186
Ah well then, very good to the mods

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>>39916186
>that girls body
if i started, i don't think i could stop

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>>39916186
>You took trest? Doesn't that shit aromatize like nothing else? No AI on trest?

something like 12 at 450 then 6 at 600 and never needed more than a quarter tab of asin a day, apparently methylestradiol can't hang with the great white potato

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>>39915606

yo yo yo

That's me.

Start seeing changes in one month.

Uh, it's really cheap, because you can reuse the gum for 3 days.

Mastic has a very strong anti bacterial agent. Run it under cold water and pop it in the fridge.

This is one month of mastic + 3 months of normal chewing gum.

Other stuff was done like (non surgically) correcting my overbite (literally just forced my jaw to be lined up straight), losing 40 lbs, and mewing + vitamin K3/D2 though.

I highly recommend mastic.

The photo is not-pumped. Honestly, pumped, you will notice a difference on day 1 lol.

>>39916070
>feel better about what, your face because it suddenly doesn't seem as bad as your body?

I can sense the sexual tension, are you lusting after these glands

>burgerlifter I mean powerlifter talking shit about someones body

>>39916214
Dude wtf I don't understand how you think you're good looking. You look like a rat. Big fucking crooked nose ( idc if it's broken fag it's ugly ) beady eyes. Stupid ears.
>dimple on a small not square chin.
You really are delusional. Kys

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>>39916201
>that girls body
Oh sweet anon there is so much more...
>>39916213
>never needed more than a quarter tab of asin a day
What is that in mg?
>>39916214
I think you are cool Alexander. Fuck the haters!

>>39916241
lol

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>>39916233
>burgerlifter I mean powerlifter talking shit about someones body

what a tragedy, not only do I put up (incredibly mediocre) numbers that you're never going to reach but I actually look like I lift

pretty sure despite resembling the result of a goomba from the live action super mario bros movie fucking a potato that I still don't look like sloth from the goonies, you retard

>>39916242
>Oh sweet anon there is so much more...

YEAH, IN MY FOLDER YOU FUCK

>What is that in mg?

6.25mg, fucking shitty crumbly 25mg indian xtane tabs

>>39916241

>male model that won't post his face

as per usual kek

anyways it's not just me that thinks I'm good looking based on how well I do with women

so you understand how I got that idea in my head

>>39916242

<3 <3

>>39916290
scooby approves

>>39916295
Unless you have no social skills what so ever most people can "get women" only mongoloids like you on this site think youre good looking just for getti g laid. Ugly fuckers get laid. I've posted my face already, and I'm not a model faggot but I know you're not even close to good looking. You look like a 5/10 at best

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>>39916290
>YEAH, IN MY FOLDER YOU FUCK
LMAO whatever. I save some of your shit but most of the girls you post are too tatted up for my taste. Perfect bodies though. ;)
>>39916290
>fucking shitty crumbly 25mg indian xtane tabs
All day chemist? I question their shit dude based on personal results. I should run it through the lab. I've got like 50g of doxy and I don't remember how many grams of azithromycin and other bs from them currently.
>>39916295
><3 <3
<3 U 2 breh!

>>39916324

I got laid nonstop at 30%+ bf so yeah I'm not arguing that point.

The *ease* I have on online dating (personality= irrelevant) plus my PERFECT jawline and chin and turquiose eyes are among the many reasons I think (know) I'm so darn good looking.

>5/10

Lol but ofc you can't post your face right?

>>39916295
that wasn't me that posted that, retard

>>39916261
Damn.. you're still alive I see. Knew you would pus out on your suicide.

>>39916340
I don't understand how you can look in a mirror and see your stupidly long and fat crooked nose, Beady eyes, misshapen ears. And contrary to what you think a small chin and think you're good looking. You have legit autism.
I'll give you that your Jaw line is decent but that's about it my man.

I've alrdy posted my face and I like being anonymous I could be 9/10 or 2/10 ogre it still doesn't make you less ugly or my observations less real
Are you even capable of growing a full beard.

>>39916354

I didn't fucking reply to you?

Pretty offended as it's abundantly clear that you removed trip to post that now though seeing as how you got a (you)

I thought we were BFFs

>>39916380

are you that 0/10 50% bodyfat bean boy that thinks he looks better than me?

top kek.

>ugly inside and out

I'm so sorry

>>39916391
I'm better looking and stronger than you. Not that I'm a model but Jesus Christ youre delusional. Oh and my chin is wider AND I have a dimple. You have a babby chin. And you look like a pale beta cuck.

>haven't even fucked any of my bosses yet

fuck guys

>still don't feel human 24/7 except when I'm on acid

Something has got to change

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I JUST PINNED 3 CC'S INTO EACH DELT

AHHHHHH

THE PIP IS UNBEARABLE

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>>39916360
>Damn.. you're still alive I see. Knew you would pus out on your suicide.
>>39916320
>>39916380
>I don't understand how you can look in a mirror and see your stupidly long and fat crooked nose, Beady eyes, misshapen ears. And contrary to what you think a small chin and think you're good looking. You have legit autism.
>>39916386
>I didn't fucking reply to you?
>Pretty offended as it's abundantly clear that you removed trip


Neighbors...
We embrace EVERYONE here.
This is a place of brutal reality and learning.
It has NEVER been a place of hate.
Please relax and contemplate your actions.


>also MAGA!

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>Roid rage
Myth or actually happens?


PD: Pic is my goal body, gonna start taking roids once I finally become financially stable which hopefully wont take long.

>>39916403

>didn't save this guy's pic

Ugh. Post it?

>>39916429

He's so unpleasant because he's so ugly. I wish you could see what he looks like.

I'm noticing a trend where ugly guys, guys that don't have their life together, etc, are much just in general, more asinine and shit.

He is literally a mean girl 'I'm prettier than you!'

I wish you could see his face cap, his attitude would make sense to you very quickly

>>39916386
why would i take my trip off, completely change my typing style to reply to you, and then put my trip back on and reply to myself with "lol"

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>>39916339
>I save some of your shit but most of the girls you post are too tatted up for my taste.

that's fine, everyone should have their own opinions even if they're terrible ones

>All day chemist? I question their shit dude based on personal results.

well I haven't grown tits yet sooooo

>>39916340
>plus my PERFECT jawline and chin and turquiose eyes are among the many reasons I think (know) I'm so darn good looking.

jesus christ I think I might puke, you're such a fag you fucking fart glitter

it's like the difference between black people and niggers, you might not even be gay but god damn you're a fag

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>>39916403

will you fucking retarded queeny dyels have your slapfight somewhere more private so that we aren't forced to witness the inevitable horror of a pair of greasy skeletons making sounds like someone being slapped vigorously with a wet ham while stirring macaroni and cheese

>>39916427

1ml is my normal limit, 2 would be like desperation level and 3 can fuck right off

>>39916360
cuz u haven't heard the latest empty hope that i have about the GSO oil bullshit that i am deluding myself with

>>39916457

I'm so confused d00d. I didn't reply to you. I swear? C-check the thread?

>>39916466
oh i thought u meant i did it when u said "male model that wont post his face"

How much nolva to use after a light ostarine cycle? I was thinking something like 20/20/10

>>39916456
>wahhh captain planet save me I'm being bullied
Never gonna make it.
You think I care what you think of me? You're so delusional you think brick is fat. Fug off

P.s my chin overshadows yours despite being 20% bf

>>39916462
don't tell me, are you.. are you gonna start pinning into your glands?

>>39913757
>lol guise XD i feel weird when i pop a strong dissociative all day like candy XD

Just end it already you obnoxious cuntflap.

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>>39916461
>everyone should have their own opinions even if they're terrible ones
<3 u 2 bb ;)
>well I haven't grown tits yet sooooo
So the dose is accurate but punjab pajeet patel doesn't know what mix to use that will keep a pressed tab together?
This is one of my worst business nightmares lol.
>>39916474
>don't tell me, are you.. are you gonna start pinning into your glands?
May Kek will it anon!

>>39916474
no. i got bloodwork done for basically everything in existence that could possibly cause this (specialists + a rheumatologist put the list together) and the O N L Y thing that was abnormal was my IGE levels, which were ~2000. which basically means that i am severely allergic to something. being that it would be retarded for me to be allergic to chicken (since the glands didnt go away even when i was psmfing for like weeks on end with only chicken), the only thing i can guess is that it is my gear which uses grapeseed oil

and i am fucking allergic to fruit a bit. it would make sense that it would fuck me up if i was chronically injecting shit into my body that i am allergic to. so that is my hope.

it's been like 11 days or some shit since my last injection of that GSO gear, switched to gear that uses MCT. I can swear they are going down a bit and they even feel different. before i would always idly feel them in my face i guess you could say since they were irritated, now it doesn't feel like that. they also feel softer.

so yea that's my last hope. i have like a little less than 2 weeks before college starts again. if it is not completely and objectively going down in swelling, then that's the end of this bullshit for me.

its such a shame because like why couldnt this happen to an ugly piece of shit instead of me

>>39912223
i'm assuming you're a wl'er based on your waifu

you should have just done some german protocol

anyways you're too shit to be tested

>>39916489
>lol guise XD i feel weird when daddy sticks his peepee in my asshole

fuck off

>>39916501
>the O N L Y thing that was abnormal was my IGE levels
besides retarded shit like signs of dehydration (from me draining a pint of my blood)

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I clicked on the /fit/ main page and there were three threads with Alex pics.
I love it!
LMAO
>h8ters gonna h8
>thug lyfe

>>39916427
You poor soul. My delts are the only place I get no PIP after glutes, oddly enough. Pinning them is actually pleasant with how easily 23G needles just slide in and I've pinned up to 4ccs in them before. Are you using 18G or something?

Now, quads are another fucking story, I could tell you some horror stories about my leg pins

>>39912392
>tfw bimbo is same age as mountain meaning both are same age as me
>tfw too broad and built for bimbo T-taper, too short for sheer mountain massmode
>tfw baby faced despite huge amounts of test
>what have i done with my life

why not just kill myself before it is too late

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>>39916490

meh you can use shit binders and/or shit presses but still do basic things like dump stuff in a v-mixer and letting it run for an hour, p sure I could teach a retarded monkey how to do geometric dilution in 10mins

>>39916473

you're delusional if you think you're only 20% when your face legit looks like jello

anyways I am really enjoying this conversation, kek.

You always put me in such a good mood anon.

>there is some guy getting so pissed I can tell he's pissed from his posting
>a guy who's face legit looks like jello thinks he is 20%

ekekkekekekekekek

>>39916521
using 23G , i took a couple ibuprofen and a hot shower and its like 50% better now.

>>39916538
pls find that pic

>>39916539
>ibuprofen
brb trying this for anti inflammatory purposes

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>>39916568

It's gonna be like 30 minutes of scanning old fraud threads.

I'm sorry glands bby doll I can't do it. I know you love it when fatties are delusional of their bf %, sorry

He looks like he's having an allergic reaction

Anyways he's in general retarded.

The claim wasn't even that I look good.

The claim was 'mastic made me look *better* you should try it peek! , and well, it did

Somehow this autist got triggered by that?

Here's a similar pic

>>39916568
He'll never find it. Into the void I return.

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>>39916585
like this guy

fuck i need to post it on reddit again, my account was too new so it was automatically shadowbanned or whatever when i first tried it

>>39916598

Yo I don't think that guy is that fat, he's what? 15? 16? 17?

I think he just has gyno.

His tits are like perfectly sphereical and far too fat considering the rest of his body

There's hints of abdominal definition. His chest should NOT look like that.

>>39916610
http://imgur.com/a/CYFrJ

before and after "75 days" of roiding at i think 600mg test a week, i completely forgot tho.

he said he does not track what he eats at all and is "probably eating too much peanutbutter and jelly on bagels"

when reddit makes its daily discussion thread on the steroid subreddit i am gonna post this pretending its me, if i dont forget again

>>39916622

lol

Looks he ate at matienence the entire time.

Correct course of action was to cut and then blast and bulk yeah?

Anyways with his body in A, either he is brand new to lifting or not putting in effort or low T. Why blast for 3 months.

I know there's an oncoming stream of abuse directed my way informing that I look even worse than his before pic, I'm aware I do, but in my defense, I'm not considering gear at this stage.

Also it looks like his gyno was actually reduced. As a result of the PCT drugs?

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>>39916622

Also as far as diet, I'm confused why moosey made such ridiculous progress both natty and on gear with his disgusting 0/10 tier diet + no protein pajeet tier diet

Genetics? Was MasT memeing us all along?

I'm gonna keep eating clean because presumably, it does help + masT said so.

Also at this point I enjoy clean food.

I know moosey says it's because of effort + intensity + volume and I think that's important too.

I'm sort of curious what factor you guys think genetics plays. 10%? 20%? More?

I feel like people that make no progress at all because they are lazy like to use genetics as an excuse, but you stuff like what moosey did with his pizza based diet and it makes you wonder

>>39916665
Recomp is a complete waste of time. Unless on tren then its debatable and kind of happens no matter what you do if you use enough I think

But he would have way better results if he wasnt a fat fuck not tracking anything he eats and eating "too much" pbnj

>>39916622
Thought you would have already posted it in reddit, you said you were going to like last week

>>39916622
>>39916815

>if I don't forget again

Soz didn't see this first time

>>39912342
milk thistle is basically snake oil for what you need it for, get tudca or get used to throwing up whenever you try to eat more than 2500 calories in a day

>>39916723
Please kill yourself alex.
His diet isnt 0/10,his genetics is avarage.
There are people in the fucking youtube who takes tons of protein with a vegan diet without protein powder,just one click away from you.
Yes man its absolutely intensity-effort-volume,do your 4x12 OHP and retarded shit like fucking with machines,you deserve it.

>>39916622
>http://imgur.com/a/CYFrJ

Why are these people not embarrassed to roid?

Like there are natties all over the world that look 10x better than him.

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>>39915572
Jesus Christ have mercy

mirin dedication tho

>>39916132
>to a boston round bottle and shake the shit out of it for half a minute

I like my bathtub drugs like Bond likes his martini huehue

>>39916575
Any -profen (ibu, keto, whatever) hinders MPS and thus gains in general in the long run by up to 50%

>>39916883
because of the starting point

you still look like his before body after how many months now?

>>39914257
can confirm this.

>wack everyday
>dead dick
>dont wack for 3 days
>cant hold myself anymore
>kinda confident and aggressive/outgoing

fapping, not even once

>>39914132
>american apparel reg crew necks

will look into these because I have an american apparel hoodie and it's the comfiest goddamn thing I've ever worn

>unrelated

considering starting either mk or one of the GHRP variants, which would you guys recommend?

>caps reply invalidated immediately

Ok I got that euphoria from lifting

>>39917403
are u on gear? cuz I saw a graph where natty test levels temporarily crashed hard after fapping.

>>39911875
I'm on 500mg test E but I have zero sex drive. Is it because of the calorie deficit and 400mg DNP?

>>39917468
it's because of your e2

>>39917403
wack it once e7d

someone post study because i dont have the link, but thats when test gains from it start to plateau and drop off anyway

>>39917403
>>39914257
>promoting not to fap to stop steroid sides.
>unironically
Kill yourselves,fucking retards.

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>>39916723
i dont think i have good genetics.

>making fun of my pizza diet
>making fun of me being a vegetarian
>making fun of my 100g protein intake
so mean

and arms are still growing

also this marks month 1 of my blast

>>39917536
Were on steroids dingus

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>>39917453
dude were you braindead for the past 3 months.

of course im on gear wtf

>>39917536
before roids i abstained for 8 months straight, ez
jk it wasnt ez

>>39917602
Your genetics are avarage.
But your biceps length is pretty good.

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>>39917617
yeah I didn't read the context of his reply until just now

thought it was in reply to a natty

on juice just blow your load whenever

>>39917620
>8 months straight

christ

I just don't really have the urge to fap, even on high(er) test I don't get that urge

now the primal rape and impregnation urges on the otherhand....

>>39917624
r8 my genetics anon

>related

>>39916723
I am completely convinced it's volume. Intensity isn't even an especially significant factor in regards to size, though it helps contribute to greater volume. Frequency isn't even as useful as volume either in my experience. I've always had my greatest gains doing phenomenal amounts of volume and I imagine it works the same way for everyone else here.

>>39917627
Pretty much avarage bre,but your hips looks a little bit wide and high lat insertions.
Nonetheless your aesthetics are godlike for normie standarts.
So time to fugg some tinder bitches,godspeed.

Why do you guys use steroids? Your facial aesthetics is what matters. If I used steroids I'd do it only for the facial gains that come with it.

Do you guys think you'd be on steroids if you were atleast PSL 8/10 or above? I think you're doing it to overcompensate for your bad looks, cope and to actually have a chance to compete with real men who were genetically blessed unlike you.

inb4 "i-it-it's a hobby! i want to get big fuark!"

>>39917669
I started juicing for strength gains, aesthetics were incidental but welcome side effects, I have 6/10 genetics in terms of looks but do not give a fuck.

... then again I am happily married since 2007 and have been training natty for more than a decade before roids so my answer is literally as anecdotal as can be kek

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>>39917655
thanks mang, but

>high lat insertions

you say this like it's a bad thing, I always thought it was preferred to have high lat inserts t b h, especially since I'm a midget

>>39917669
I'll bite; if you think facial aesthetics are all that matters when it comes to getting women I'm living proof that you're 110% wrong

and for that matter being muscular matters even less

I just do it for the rape urges

So can I get some information on memek677 aka ibutamoren? I don't feel like pinning but don't really need the feel to stay off anything that can enhance performance. All I want is a little faster recovery so I can train 5 days a week. Doing sets upon sets with appropriate resting times takes so much fucking time I can't do a lot of big compounds if I want to progress and keep my gym visits under one hour. I also get loads of cracking in my lower back and I want that shit healed as it is nasty.

>>39917728
No,low lat insertions is better for having a V shape,but since you are on roids it wont matter.

>>39917669
nice troll!

>uses and knows what PSL means
oh shit you aren't trolling

I feel bad for you

>>39917846
they are evolving

>>39915585
No, I've already gotten bloods. I want to get bloods a couple of days after starting so I know where that dose brings my test and estrogen.
And yeah, NY state has laws against blood being drawn without a doctor's order, so private labs can't operate there.
>>39916070
Ok, thanks brick.
>>39916082
Wew, that's high. What was your estradiol?

I was considering starting with 250mg/wk, but... it just seems like I'd be better off starting slow.

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>>39917669
>only face matters
>see 100 cases everyday that proves the opposite

>this one guy in my gym
>manlet
>balding
>recessed chin
> posture like a god damn ape
>druggy eyes
>talks like a maniac
>120lb pale skeleton
>has 8/10 qt af gf

>hundreds of other couples just like this

im a big believer that "just be confident bro" is a meme, but its hard to stay true to that when you have 100 examples each week that prove the opposite.

yes im compensating, arent we all