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Being a murse

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Yo /fit/ I'm a low level nurses assistant, just under a CNA (maybe we're called orderlies but idk) I essentially watch patients for 12 hours straight and make about 20k a year doing it.

I was wondering for all the male nurses here,
>is it rewarding?
>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?
>Can you stay /fit/ doing it?
>Any tips on becoming one?
>Pros and Cons of Being one?
>Are most murses gay?

Godspeed and get back to charting
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>>39881862
being a /fit/ person in the medical field is hot af senpai
just marry a doctor or some other medfag and you'll be fine
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Do you think 20k a year is a lot? Because I think it's not much higher than minimum wage.
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>>39881901
I said I'm under a CNA bruh of course it's not a lot, it's above minimum wage however. I make about 11 dollars an hour depending on the day I work and working 72 hours a pay period (2 weeks) I make roughly 20k before income taxes.

Minimum wage (raised to 9.10 two days ago) given the same perameters in this state would yield 17k after taxes.

A CNA (I'm taking the course in twenty days) makes 13.46 starting out at my work, 14.46 at nights, which is about 27k a year before taxes. Not bad for someone who isn't even 20 yet no?
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>>39881901
If you are working 12 hour days 5 days a week i think it's less than mimimum wage.
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>>39881935
17k a year before taxes* it would be 14k a year after taxes which is barely above the federal poverty line and hardly livable in a place where your car is your lifeline
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>>39881862
>nurse
unless you're a CRNA you're a cuck
have fun taking orders from people kek
meanwhile I'm going to be a pharmacist and get to live life on easy mode and still get to wear a white coat
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>>39881943
3 days a week dude, nothing like having 4 day weekends.

20k/120 hours a pay period/26 yearly paychecks= 6.41 an hour

If I worked that I'd be making 6.41 an hour which is not only ridiculous, it's illegal. You think I'd wipe sick people ass for that? God no.
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>>39881956
Have fun not finding a job bitch boy, you really think a glorified pill counter / drug dictionary is in high demand?

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/pharmacists.htm

Who's the real cuck now? Who cares if I take orders when I actually have demand for my job, high school teachers are more likely for employment than you.
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>>39881862
Britbong murse here

>rewarding
In a way, making people better feels good. Fighting middle managers, idiot relatives and shift patterns feel bad
>Comfortable amount of money
Close to top of band 5 and I feel like I can't spend it fast enough, but desu it's shit wages for a degree/professional, OT is great way to earn though, a few bank shifts paid for Christmas and New Years. In other parts of the world I understand that nurses receive better compensation. NHS pension is ok though
>Can you stay fit
If you find the time to go to the gym and resist the biscuits and chocolates ever on ward then yes. There are 2 types of nurses, fit nurses and fatties with nothing inbetween
>tips
Do what ever is required to qualify in your country, any work experience helps
>Pros n cons
Too long to list really, ultimately it depends on your personality whether you find it rewarding or not.
>Murses gay?
Only a few murses where I qualified and the trust that I work, I think one I know is gay, more lesbo nurses desu. Occupational therapists are usually gay in my experience.
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I would never be a murse because I have pride.

You're unironically doing bitch work.
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>>39881935
You make less than Subway employees in my state.

It's "not bad for someone who isn't even 20," it's the bare minimum.
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>>39881862
>tfw no murse bf
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>>39881998
Do you live in New Yawk Or California? The cost of living in the midwest is a lot lower. Especially in my city.
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>>39881935
that's fucking terrible money dude. I was on 30k a year when I was 16. But, my country actually has a liveable minimum wage.
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>>39881862

I am an AIN and work work in 2 private hospitals. I have only 6 months left before I finish my diploma. I don't mind the work but its not something you can do forever. Being a male nurse is pretty awesome because you work pretty well with other men. The con is that you have to listen to women's shit allll the goddamn time.

I will do my nursing degree in about 12 months time because the money and conditions are better as an RN. But I'm single and don't have kids so anyone who says nurses don't make good money is full of shit.

My brother is 12 months post grad and making 65k a year. But in Australia we get taxes out the ass and most of his wage go to tax. Goddamn socialism.
But I like my job and my future to come.
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>>39881862
>20k
Low but ok...

>clapistani dollars
Holy shit thats literally poverty.... £16k
My mum earns that working part time at a beareau de change.

Sorry bout your life breh.
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>>39881956
Yeah nothing more noble than working at a Wal-Mart Pharmacy telling diabetics to take their $1000 water pills, fuck I think telephone salesmen are more appreciated and reliably quick than a pharmacist.
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>>39882015
The point is that you're not in such a great position as you evidently think you are.

I'd be embarrassed to make 20k, no matter my age and no matter if I lived in Shit Stains, Iowa.
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>>39881887
>A female doctor marrying a male nurse
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>>39882040
>he doesn't know male nurses are all gayfags

lmaooooo
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>>39882036
20k at age 19, having education payed for by employer to make 27k by the end of next year

Potential to make 55k+ in less than 5 years from now, not a bad position since my rent is 400 a month

>embarrassed to make 20k, yep definitely big city prick you are. Cost of Living dramatically effects local wages sure 20k for you may mean total financial destitution, but for me it means self sufficiency and the ability to party and live comfortably without much financial foresight.

pic related
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>>39882032
>this salt
kek
>not realizing that pharmacists can do other things besides working in a retail pharmacy
top kek
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>>39881862
You're UNDER a CNA? Jesus, I can't even imagine what that's like. CNA's are treated like shit already.

Medfag here enroute to become a doctor. I'm not an RN but my mother is and I've looked into it myself. Become an RN. It's pretty easy in comparison to a lot of the other work out there. It's a low level of education and none of the education is too hard. The hardest classes you'll take are Microbiology and Anatomy & Physiology. It makes decent money (around 70k) and is stable and universal as a job.

You can absolutely stay /fit/ while working and while becoming one.

Tips are just to do well in school and pay attention. For the schooling, some of it may seem pointless, but it's all to help you better understand your job, and is very applicable.

Pros:
>good money
>pretty easy to become one
>you can continue schooling to become a Nurse Practitioner (which is essentially a doctor)
>not as stressful as being an ER doctor

Cons:
>you'll get annoyed at how little the doctor does and how much more he gets paid
>you'll have to work with annoying coworkers and medical assistants who think they know more than they really do
>doctors get priority over you; if the doctor you work with doesn't like you, even at a personal level, you're gonna have a rough time. so learn to get along with people, especially the doctors
>everyone will think you're gay

Are most nurses gay? No but you are you dumb faggot. No but there's actually a lot of sweet puss around when going for nursing just because of how many females there are. And they're generally more open and less introverted making it even easier to score.
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>>39882069
Have fun counting pills dude

>3% (slower than average)
>So are you
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>tfw Au.D.
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>>39882078
>No but you are you dumb faggot
Yeah I know, I wanna score with sweet murse buss so what?
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>>39882083
>Have fun counting pills dude
For six digits right out of school, I will.
And then I'll become a pharmacy manager and make even more.
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>>39882078
OP here
>UNDER A CNA?
Yeah, we're referred to as sitters commonly, though that's not my title, as for being treated like shit, not so much except by patients. My expectation are low and I do the toileting like CNA's for brownie points and respect.

The people who give the most hell are the drunk dicks in inpatient care that are being combative, because they're out of their head from withdrawal. Forget AA just shack up people in a room for 12 hours with someone with quart mania and that'll set them straight. ER dicks aren't that much fun either.
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>>39882124
>3%
>Out of school

Eat a dick you blindly overconfident piece of shit, enjoy the debt too you may make six figures but no way in hell is a pharmacy gonna hire a little dickseed with no work experience waving his small degree around like his even smaller cock

But if by some chance in hell you, a 4channing vainglorious incel makes it to that point, tell me when I can refill my vicodin you obama crony fuck
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>>39881862
>is it rewarding?
If you like helping people then yes

>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?

CNA's are borderline minimum wage employees where I'm at. (11.50/hr for overnights)

>Can you stay /fit/ doing it?
Definitely

State University is an ideal place to get your learning in.

>Pros and Cons of Being one?
>Pros

PLENTY of overtime available.

>Cons

Most facilities are deliberately understaffed (hence the overtime) and you will almost always be working short.

Also, an LPN with a bug up her/his ass can have your license pulled quite easily and the accusations don't even have to be true because there is no due process(in Massachusetts, other states may very.) A common under-the-bus tactic is neglect because easy as hell to have someone set up.

>Are most nurses gay?

Depends on the facility.
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>>39881862
Only 20k a year? I was a healthcare security officer watching psych patients 12 hours straight making at least 28-32k a year.
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>>39882163
>this mad
o i am laffin
have fun being a literal scrub while I do no work for 6 figures kek
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>>39882259
I don't work with patients who are admitted to psych that's a separate facility at my work which requires more training, however I do work with people who are under psych evaluations on their way there. I get paid less because of my job description which is basically just monitor somebody so they don't get hurt, I don't technically have to do anything else, but I do because I feel like a dick if my patient is bathing in their own piss.
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>>39881935
Why aren't you in college?
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>>39882342
I'm poor and the US education system is broken so I'm banking on my employer to scholarship me the way through. Otherwise I'm relying on the CNA wages to putt me through the rest while living a comfortable life without being mired in work and school.

I could work twenty four a week and make as much as a minimum wage full time worker, not a bad way to pay your way through school only working two days a week. I make a dollar more on weekends too
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Murse here
It's a good job. I go home happy and go to work happy. Certain units require more walking than others, which counts as cardio. Staying fit can be difficult if you work nights, but if you can go to the gym after/before work, then no problem. Just meal prep.
I work at a county hospital, which doesn't pay as much, but I still live very comfy on that money.
If you wanna be a RN, learn how to study and take tests well. The prereqs are what eliminate and discourage a lot of people that want to go into nursing.
The pros: helping others, and learning. Hell, i have had beers paid for me when i go to a bar and people find out I'm a nurse
Cons: dealing with docs who are asshats. Dealing with family members who have done "research" or family members that think they know medicine because their spouse/brother/cat is a doctor.
Also, pro/con is moving fat patients, because it's a good work out, but also a hassle and the odor.
Also I've only met 1 gay male nurse
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>>39881985
>>39882024
>>39882078
>>39882255
>>39882413
OP here, and in an effort to shit all over 4chan conduct, I'd like to thank all of you for your serious, eloquent and honest answers. Past all the shitposting you were able to give me actual answers and It makes me proud that /fit/ isn't just full of neckbeards pretending that they are CEO's who are also trained in Gorilla warfare for the Navy SEALS

Seriously guys, thank you and thank anybody who posts something direct after this you make this website great :)
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>>39882446
neck yourself you faggot
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>>39882446
No prob. Good luck with your studies m8
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>>39882146
Doing shit jobs like scrubbing toilets will earn you no respect unless your boss knows you're constantly the one doing them or you volunteer to doing them in front of the boss. Even then, it's bargaining leverage, not real respect. Use that scrub work as a way to score some easy shifts while you're starting school, or looking for a raise.

If your coworkers stick you with scrubbing shitters constantly, they don't respect you for going the extra mile, they think it's OK to stick you with bitch work because you're a bitch.

It's about becoming an asset, not a martyr.
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>>39882527
toileting is not scrubbing shitters bruh Its wiping ass, which is something every CNA and nurse has to do on a near if not daily basis.
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>>39882573
>toileting is not scrubbing shitters bruh Its wiping ass, which is something every CNA and nurse has to do on a near if not daily basis.
Breh we all have to wipe ass daily.
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I was a nurse for 7 years in Texas, here is my experience.

>is it rewarding?
Depends a lot on where you work, I worked in ER and ICU and you really feel like what you do makes a palpable difference, especially when patients try to contact you after years just to say thanks.
>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?
I used to make 40$ hourly, it was ok.
>Can you stay /fit/ doing it?
You are supposed to, many nurses fall to vices just to keep up with stress, so you end up with overweight chain smoking nurses. I found lifting away the stress with the occasional drink much better.
>Any tips on becoming one?
Go to your local college
>Pros and Cons of Being one?
CONS:
-It's a female dominated area, so you have to learn to deal with them on a daily basis.
-Even if you can work under pressure and have nerves of steel this career will eventually get to you
-Nurses are also subject to malpractice lawsuits
-You have to juggle relationships between patients, medics, patient's relatives and other nurses.
-If you have some semblance of character get ready to be called doctor all the time.
PROS:
-You get to meet and know plenty of interesting people, you can get tons of useful connections this way.
-Relatively well paid
-If you are a guy there is plenty of chance to court.
-You learn plenty of useful skills, not just related to medicine.
-Despite most popular misconceptions there is a lot of opportunities for professional growth.
>Are most murses gay?
Honestly I have never met a gay male nurse but some people will assume that from you.
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>>39882446
good luck and godspeed anon <3
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>>39882613
>Honestly I have never met a gay male nurse

Absolute bullshit.
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Murse here
>is it rewarding?
Depends

>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?
Define comfortable. I do feel like I should earn more compared to the responsiblity a nurse has. But money is not an issue to me so meh. Don't plan on getting rich though.

>Can you stay /fit/ doing it?
Yes. I think it will make my cutting easier since I walk a lot. Alsobeen able to up my calories since starting with a new job.

>Any tips on becoming one?
Prepare for graveyard shifts and whatnot. It can knock you out if you don't sleep properly. Get the habit of sleeping consistenly as a student from day 1. It's going to help you in your cIlinical trials and with your gains. It's always good to ask your self from day 1: Where do I want to work? What am I good at? What do I want with this job?

Being a nurse takes a lot of personal and mental foortitude and patience with not only the people you work with but also yourself. As a student, know what your responsiblities are.

>Pros and Cons of Being one?
Cons: lots of job opportunities just for being a male. Also a lot of fields to work in and specialize in afterwards. good opportunities to work overseas.

>Are most murses gay?
Probably not more than the average population I think.
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I've been in the hospital a couple times for surgeries over the years, and I have a ton of respect for the work ethic of the nurses and PCAs.

I was in for 7 days at one point, and this PCA worked 6 of those days from 7 pm to 7 am, and when I asked her what she did on her day off, she told me she went to work another job. It was pretty fucking nuts.

Then again, I know another who works at a plastic surgeons office, and she has a lot more reasonable hours.
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>>39881862
Fucking lmao. Could never work in a female dominated industry
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>>39882665
I have never met any openly gay at least.
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>tipping the nurse
Fucking America, I swear.
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Every male nurse I have ever met has been a bro. Occasionally you get the guy that's been doing it for 40 years and is your standard rambling old fart, but that lifetime of caring for people has at least made them nice. You want a good job that's always in demand? be a nurse. You want an easy job? Don't be a nurse. You have to be smart enough to not kill people accidentally, and patient enough to not kill people on purpose. Healthcare is my life.

t. ER Tech/EMT/Army Medic/Med School student
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>>39882078
I'm a mailman and I work 8-4:30 5 days a week. I make 60k a year and have a 40k a year pension waiting for me at 58.
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NHS HCA reporting in

Progression from HCA to RN is damn near impossible here, applied for 3 universities and got instantly rejected despite working in ED, various outpatient units and wards for 3 years which is putting me off continuing.

How is the progression for you guys stateside?
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>>39881935

Either go all the way and become a legit RN/RNP or find another profession man, you're gettin hosed

>is it rewarding

Yes, you're helping to heal the sick. But don't think you're some kind of savior, you're basically always going to be a doctor's whipping boy.

>do you make a comfortable amount of money

Yes, especially if you work nights or incentive shifts.

>Can you stay /fit/

Obviously, it's the same as any other ~40 hour a week job.

>Any tips on becoming one

Yeah go to school and pass your tests

>pros and cons of being one

Pros:
Make $$$
3 12-hour shifts
Hospital staff are under constant stress so the entire thing turns into a free-for-all orgy, basically

Cons:
Disimpacting bowels
Have to do what the doctors say when they say it
Hospital staff are under constant stress (with the whole "keeping people from dying" thing)

>Are most murses gay

Yes
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>>39882922
But how am I getting hosed? I'm making 20k a year and living the Kansas dream! After my employer gets my my certificate I'll make THREE whole dollars above minimum wage!
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>>39881862
>being a nursecuck
just be an EMT and drive around all day
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>>39882892
Harsh man. What were your grades like leaving college? Maybe do an access course to prove you can keep up academically?
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>>39881862

aren't male nurses paid a shitload because of their ridiculous hours and very low respect in a social/professional setting?

If being a cuck wasn't hard enough, those 80 hour weeks will definitely kill any semblance of masculinity/gains you have.

I fuck around 30 hours a week on nightshift in a grocery store and make like near 20k.
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>>39882892
Here in the States you apply to a college, not just ask the ministry of beurocracy and hope they will allow it.
You pretty much take the ACT and as long as you score in the twenties you can get in at some crappy d2 school.
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>>39882980
Why would a profession of low respect get paid "a shitload"?
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>>39881935

Yeah you're actually making great money for under 20. Don't listen to insecure retards trying to make you feel bad.

Get your CNA asap and start getting some hands on experience while making good money.

Go to nursing school for a 2 year associate degree and get your RN to start working soon, then grab your bachelor's online.

It's rewarding, you make a great amount of money, pretty much middle class income with no children, that's like high class with children. It's a stand on your feet job so you'll stay fit if you don't eat like shit. Pros is that you'll be surrounded by women and you'll be swole, constant compliments and you get to fuck a few if you feel like it. Most nurses are straight in my experience.
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>>39882379
Poor people can take out low-interest loans to go to college. It's fine if you don't want to do that, but please don't misrepresent the state of US education to foreogners, they have enough reasons to hate us.
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>>39882980
>low respect in a social/professional setting

This is kinda true, before I got my degree I was tight with a few junior doctors, now they are a bit more distanced. HCAs tend to look up to me though.

Non medical staff don't really follow that hierarchy in social setting and I get respect, but you are always get the 'male nurse lol why didn't you become a doctor?'

Male nurses get fast promotions though.
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>>39882062
>this rationalization

Whatever gets you through the day i guess
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>>39881956
Lmao xray technicians is were its at m8
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>>39882980
>80 hour weeks
>low respect

t. someone who has never been in a hospital

They've cracked down a shitton on forced OT for nurses in the last 10 years

And as far as respect goes, it's definitely not "very low." If you actually know what you're doing, you command respect from anyone that isn't an attending.

The worst you get is rednecks snickering about it when you introduce yourself but who cares, because you're being judged by people who blew themselves up with fireworks.
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>>39883032

im sure your percieved social value as a male nurse is rock bottom compared to all the doctors/surgeons/therapists there.

I mean, you're no bathroom janitor or something, but you're def very low on the totem poll in the hospital setting.
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>>39883016
>'male nurse lol why didn't you become a doctor?'

Well? It's a good question.
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>>39883094
3 years in training with student loan paid and bursary vs 5 year degree out of my own pocket plus 8 year being a senior doctor's bum boy
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>>39883056
That's just what being a nurse is, it has nothing to do with being a male nurse. By virtue of your job title, you've got to do grunt work. What I mean is that if you know your shit and act like a man, you'll probably be complete bros with the doctors.

That being said, you're definitely lower on the professional totem pole than any of the people you mentioned.
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Another murse here. Disclaimer: Haven't been one for too long, and I'm strongly thinking about quitting for good because I don't like my job, so take my salt with a grain of salt.

>is it rewarding?
It can be. When it is, it feels great what you're doing. There are a sizeable chunk of people who truly appreciate what you do, and it feels extremely rewarding to help them get better. I work in observation though, so it's mostly getting the same chronic smokers back for their 17th heart cath and giving antibiotics to elderly women with UTIs, which doesn't feel quite as rewarding.

>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?
I have heard many different things on this. I'm about a year out of nursing school, working at a hospital, and I'm making about 48,500 without overtime (in Texas). According to some, there is high upward mobility in pay, and according to others, there isn't. From what I've seen thus far, it sounds like most of the upward mobility and money comes from going on to get your masters, because most of the nurses I work with get paid no more than I do (other than the $2.00 extra for being charge) despite some of them having been there for 5 or even 10 years. I don't know how being in a union state affects this.

>Can you stay /fit/ doing it?
Yes, I see a LOT of really fit male nurses, and far less so on female ones. Any time food is brought to the unit for something, it will be something like candy or pizza or cake. You must resist the urge to shit all over your diet, even on stressful days. Most of the turbofatty nurses have McDonalds and a Dr. Pepper for lunch every day, and they don't exercise on their off days. Pack a healthy lunch and stick with it; that's the main thing.

>Any tips on becoming one?
At this point in time, hospitals and nursing are absolutely obsessed with customer service, but as an assistant, you probably know this already. The main tip I have is that if you don't know something, ask.

(cont 1/2)
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>>39882980
Guess it depends on where you live. Here in Aus, you're paid pretty decently with fantastic benefits.

>very low respect
What does that even mean? That people spit on me when I comment that I'm a nurse? I don't turn heads in a conversation like a neurosurgeon does, but people don't automatically write me off because of my profession. Anyone who does probably isn't worth associating with anyway.

>being a cuck
Critical misunderstanding of the profession

>gainskiller
It is if you're a bitch.
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>>39883119

yeah but females don't suffer from it, they slut around with the doctors and other higher value men no problem.

It's probably cause of the pay disparity though, doctors make like 200k a year, surgeons and other specialist I assume also six figures while male nurses prolly make like 30k I think?

It's not so drastic in every other social setting (joe blow in the office isn't THAT much worse off than his supervisor or middle management, same for bartenders/waiters vs managers/higher ranking chefs).

plus you're fucking surrounded by 6 figure professionals in a hospital settings, while in other work environments it's only the 1-3% that are really far above you.
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>>39881956
My fiancée is an RPh in retail and makes ridiculous bank. We're talking pharmacy manager salary (look up median) and doesn't actually run the pharmacy. We also live in an area with a low cost of living, so the money goes even further.

She has to deal with with the angry public and asshole doctors constantly, so i hope you have thick skin. Outside of stress in dealing with the public, she really likes her job. Keep at it bruh

Meanwhile, i'm an engineer and literally make half her hourly rate lol. If i could go back and do it again, would go into pharmacy. Her classes (pharmacokinetics, pathophysiology, etc.) were super interesting. Math is way more simple than hydro engineering, but the amount of memorization is pretty insane.
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>>39881935
Breddy gud for under 20, but gtfo asap. Get more training like another anon mentioned, and use the experience as the hospital's bitch to your advantage.
t. medschoolfag
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>>39883182
>male nurses prolly make like 30k

An RN? An RN makes like 70k a year.
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>>39883221

why is op making 20k.
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>>39883221
It reaaaallly varies by area and hospital.

There's 3 major systems around me, and the difference in pay just on the MS floors is about 20k. I can't even imagine what some specializations get.
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>>39881862
Just become a nurse, dude.


Pays decent. Some of my clients make as much as 80k a year being trauma nurses. Most of the others make 50k minimum.


Long hours but lots of free days.


Also, something stupid like
>95% of nurses are female

And most are single... And desperate.

I went to one of their parties and it was damn near all eyes on me just for being fit and about a 7/10.

Study hard though.
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>>39883225
Because he isn't an RN. He's two steps lower than one. Doesn't even require a degree for his job.
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>>39883240
That's definitely true. I used to get play when I was just doing stock at a teaching hospital.

The only floor that had any abundance of men was PT, and that was all students except for the head.
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>>39883149
(cont 2/2)

>Pros and Cons of Being one?
Pros:
Extremely rewarding at times
Solid money
Lots of flexibility on where you work and what you do
In high demand

Cons:
It's a customer service job: if you've worked retail, you get the same bullshit stuff from the same bullshit people (and expect to take a LOT of flak from patients for something a doctor couldn't be assed to do)
Also like retail, expect people to expect you to telepathically know information about them ("IDK what medication I take, but it's some blue and white pill" "what do you mean you don't know what it is")
As a male, expect to be called on for any and all heavy lifting. Time to test those functional deadlifts on that 450 pound fat lady who fell on the floor
A lot of doctors are just generally assholes; a lot of nurses are also assholes
Significantly higher potential for injury than a lot of other professions
Nursing school is highly competitive and very fast paced, and there is no safety net for those who can't keep up
Hospitals are a business- they can and will cut corners on staff. Your ratios are going to climb and they're going to make empty promises about how staffing will improve "soon"
Not that this is specific to nursing, but you will be blamed if anything happens, even if it's because you don't have the supplies or staff to do what you need

Whether you consider 13 hours a day 3 days a week to be a pro or con is personal opinion. Personally I hate it: you don't have any time to do anything else that day, and if you go back to work in 10 hours, you only have time to try and sleep before the next shift.

>Are most murses gay?
I'm not, and most of them I see aren't, but I think there's a somewhat higher percentage of males who are gay in nursing than there are in the general populace.


Personally, I'm done with nursing. It's not rewarding enough for the stress.
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How does /fit/ feel about physical therapists?
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>>39881935
>11 dollars an hour depending on the day
holy fuck I make $14 an hour shitposting on /fit/ all day

your job blows
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Work surgery and avoid most patient interaction. One patient at a time and they are asleep. Get access to all the female scrub techs who think scoring a nurse is a goal and avoid being surrounded by nurses who think they are too good for you and only go for doctors.

Be a travel nurse and make $1500-2000 a week after taxes. Only downside is moving every 13 weeks. But that allows you a new pool of girls with every move.

Surgery also isn't a 24 hour staffed unit so you can get to the gym easily. Just can't go if on call, but call can be avoided if working at a surgery center.

Overall being a surgery murse has been pretty sweet for me
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>>39883225
He seems to be a low-level entry-level babysitter. Some guy they pay to sit there and make sure nobody keels over in the night.
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>>39883377
It's gotta be at hospice or something too, because he's not angry enough for behavioral.
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>>39881956
Emt here, you guys always look depressed in the pharmacy.
Sorry nothing interesting happens and you have to act superior.
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>>39883056
>im sure
No, you're not at all, actually.
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>decent pay
>Surrounded by cock hungry women 24/7
>Can travel nurse


Sounds perfect to me
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>>39882955
>being an EMT over a nurse
We make shit money in America. If you really want to make a career of it, then get your medic.
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>>39883457
Then go to PA or nursing school when you realize even medics get paid shit.
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>>39882858
20 year retirement? there's a spot open in my little town for the carrier, applied for the exam
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>>39882850
Advice over nursing/pa/med school?

I'm 32 with a change in career. Started out agriculture/animal science because had some childhood dream of vet science. Worked in a lab doing fuck all for a few years and interior painting on the side.

Now I need to act before I get too damn old to stop being a professional student
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>>39883273
OP here

Thanks anon this is a very well rounded reply.I'm interested in knowing a bit more. did you have a life long desire to be a nurse and worked in the field before studying nursing, or was it something that you studied first before gaining clinical experience? Did you just sort of fall into studying it as "I guess I'll do this" deal or did you plan ahead in life?

So far I like my job, but I've been at it for a brief time. How long have you been employed as a nurse?
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>>39881862
>wiping old peoples asses for living
no thank you sir
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>>39882379
Learn what FAFSA is and start an application. Easy free Associate's Degree.

Complete your BA/BS with subsidized loans and grants.

If you're smart about your education, you can pay off all your debt within 5 years of becoming a doctor, 3 years if you're good with money.
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>>39883540
It depends on your degree. Sounds like you have science under your belt, but your science classes would have to be within the last decade to count (depends on the med school. Look into their specific prereqs) Med school would actually prefer you as a nontraditional student with life experience. They are starting to get away from their practice of only accepting 22 y/o Asian biology majors with 4.0 GPA's.

If you don't want the administrative headache of being a Doctor, just go PA. Same fucking job practically but with half the post-bacc work. Still respected, still saving lives, but you don't have a fancy title. And you don't have to specialize like doctors (Cardiology, Medicine, etc) so you can work for any Doctor in any field. Don't do nursing at your age. That's a level of bullshit that you have to have been introduced to at a young age. People are going to see you as a 30 something year old nurse and wonder why you only know as much as a fresh grad.
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>>39883338
Additional Pros/Cons of being a travel murse?
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>>39881956
>still get to wear a white coat


Lol, that white coat envy. Should have become a doctor m8.

Errybody wanna wear that white coat, but nobody wanna learn no heavy ass medicine.
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>>39883384
I work with a variety of patience, you could say hospice in some cases as I've had "comfort" care patients in their 80s+ but the largest sum of my patients are usually between 20-60 and are there for one or more of the following
>suicide (like at least 50% of the time)
>pulling tubes
>likely to fall
>likely to leave bed when they can't
>violent behavior
>alcohol withdrawal and is undergoing delirium
>elderly and wandering/sundowners
>harasses female staffing
>drug overdose and possible smuggling concerns
>ER psychological evaluations
>Confused and hysterical

Basically I have to observe the hardest to deal with patients, make sure they're safe and call somebody if shit begins to slide into the salad shooter
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I'm becoming a nurse, but in the EU. Don't think it's as good as in the US desu. People claiming 80k$ in the US, but I don't think I would ever reach that high in France.
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>>39883578
Most researchers and Med Schools aren't big fans of International Asian students. The reason for this is that they're known to cheat and "drink the Kool-aid." They often just memorize and seldom understand the content. I found that out a lot while doing undergrad research.
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If you're going to be a nurse try to get to RN or find a place close by that has the program from LVN to RN. CNA's are the bitch nurses that are forced to do everything once you become at least an LVN or RN you get more free time.
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>>39883596
It's basically starting a new life every 13 weeks
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>Tfw being a doctor

It feels good to be in the top. Murses are OK, respect. But pharmacist can go suck a cock
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>20k/yr
>people live on this
How depressing.
I make 56k salary with vacation and benefits and I'm not satisfied with it.
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>>39883660
Junior year premed?
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Let it be known that I started this nurse meme years ago on here >:)
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>>39883578
I decided not to apply for vet school because of that nice salary/debt ratio for one, and since I never took orgo1/2 or biochem, I'd have to change work in order to fit a day classes in.

I've been taking night and weekend classes at the local CC to cover the human side of past courses, micro and A&P and will get a job soon at the hospital with my EMT cert.

I can apply for PA and DO (I don't think I'd be competitive enough for MD with all the other 4.0 honors intensive research newly graduated undergrads). I just know with PA I can start making money faster
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>>39883626

mate, good paying jobs in the EU make at least 40% less than the US in general, get used to it.
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>>39883660
I'm just about to become a doctor. I literally cannot fucking wait to start getting paid
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>>39883724
what specialty?
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>>39883735
UK Fag here bro, we do two foundation years as a doctor where we do a bit of everything. I'll be a junoir doctor by the time I'm 22. Hoping to get into Acute Care and Anaesthetics further down the line but I don't have to worry about that for a while.
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>>39883735
What about you? Sorry, accidently replied instead of hitting enter
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>>39883724
Residency tho?
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>>39883661
Life's expensive man and i don't even live in a nice area. I make $63k per year and outside of vacations and a nice car, don't really have a ton money to throw around.
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>>39883816
do you rent or own a house?
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>reading all of this
>Put $40,000 in my savings account last year
>selling cars

Kek!
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>>39881862
>is it rewarding?

it depends on what you find rewarding, the population i work with dont give a shit about you though it feels nice when someone tells you they appreciate what you did for them

>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?
as a 2 year RN i make like 31 an hour, i say its p good. i can buy any gun i want.

>Can you stay /fit/ doing it?
yes though working too many 12 hr shifts will kill you. i need to rest 2 days after doing that shit. and fuck management for scheduling me like that too.

>Any tips on becoming one?
go to school? its not hard you just have to learn evidence based practice. watch what the nurses do and ask questions.

>Pros and Cons of Being one?
pros:money, you can have up to like 4 days off without using leave.
cons: shitty hours. shitty patients/assiggnments

>Are most murses gay?
>tried hooking up with 2 coworkers(female) 1 was a gold digger and the second one i was too fucking drunk and pushy she didnt like it. OH FUCKING WELL THERES LIKE 3 OTHER SINGLE ONES FUCK IT. you do get to stare at ass all day not gonna lie. that hinders my performance. i love women. and i speially love it when they wear tight scrubs.
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>>39881862
God, this story pisses me the fuck off. You should be making a liveable wage working as a nurse's assistant. You should be able to afford a modest apartment, not have to worry about food, and potentially support a child or two.

/fit/ - if you're not liberal, you're doing it wrong. How people are ok with this is beyond me.

OP, I've known a few nurses that have made a shitload, though they were pretty high up the ladder as far as nurses go (I'm not super familiar with the field, so I'm not sure what the hierarchy was like, but they were like just a rung below doctors - RN? maybe?).
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I'm going back to do some HS class I missed because I didn't know what I wanted to do then I'm going to do the nurse course, and if it goes well I'll do the following course to become a mental health nurse. The nurses at the hospital saved my life, I want to be able to do the same for other people in need.
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>>39883816
>and a nice car
How nice are we talking and who told you to buy a nice car on 60/yr
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>>39883880
>if you're not liberal, you're doing it wrong
yeah im not for the whole capitalism thing but if you think that's a free pass to put that as a label to being liberal you're on some good shit
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>>39883626
on the plus side you don't have to worry about medically induced bankruptcy
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>>39883629
That's what I'm saying. They have gone away from that. I guess reading comprehension wasn't on the MCAT for you?
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>>39883545
I've had interest in anatomy and medical stuff since I was younger; not necessarily nursing. When I was in high school/college, I was an in-home caretaker for a guy with muscular dystrophy, and I thought it was a pretty nice gig. I got to bond with him and his family, work with him through good and bad, and watch him achieve milestones in terms of becoming active again. THAT was rewarding, and I really liked it (for the most part). It's one of the main things that got me into nursing; I just sort of decided to go with nursing from there (initially, I was going to be a computer science major, but it kind of fell through for reasons). I started working as an actual RN in April, but I was doing clinical junk for two years prior.

If you like what you do and find it rewarding, then it makes a lot of the stress tolerable. If you feel like you have a strong support network to help you in rough parts or when you're drowning, it's a lot more tolerable. When you don't have those, it's awful. For me, I think one of the major parts of why I hate my job is that it doesn't feel rewarding to me- I don't get to see those ups and downs like I did working one-on-one; most of my job is making sure incontinent people don't get bedsores, making sure people don't fall (and despite the emphasis on no falls, my hospital does NOT provide adequate resources to help prevent them), and passing medications.

There's definitely a human-to-human care aspect, but as soon as things become busy or stressful, that aspect is all but lost. In addition, it's going to be the real shitty people you spend 80% of your shift dealing with, not the sweet old lady you actually like. If you like the 13 hour shifts, and you like the (largely unnecessary) day-to-day stresses, then by all means become a nurse. I just don't feel that it's for me.
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>>39884386
what's gonna your next step then
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I'm 20 years old and I'm currently an FMF Corpsman for the US Navy working with marines.

I always wanted to get into the medical field as either a CRNA or an RN. After working in hospitals doing clinicals and all that shit I loved it and want to keep doing it.

>worked in the VA in the SICU for a little while down in San Tan, Texas
>experienced a combatitive patient who ripped out his chest tube and fought a couple nurses
>made best buds with a big as fuck black dude patient who would not stop sexually harassing anything with a vagina.

I find it fun desu
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>>39884626
If you want to get paid, spend the rest of your life learning, and spend most of your day with the more intelligent non-doctors, stay with intensive care work.

Downside, you will see a lot of death.
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>>39884653
>Downside, you will see a lot of death
That's okay, I kinda like it

Thanks man
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>>39881862

>>is it rewarding?
Sometimes
>>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?
Yes
>>Can you stay /fit/ doing it?
Easily
>>Any tips on becoming one?
Get your cna first so you actually know what it's like to hate your life for 12 hours at a time running a hotel room for ungrateful old people
>>Pros and Cons of Being one?
Pros are being surrounded by lots of hot girls that you work with, it's a piss easy job that requires little actually thought and effort, there's almost unlimited room for professional growth and plenty of cool things to do and see
Cons are being a doctor's bitch because nurses can't do shit without orders (I'm a medic/RN and my biggest gripe about nursing is having to get an order before doing anything), patients are still ungrateful, and it can be stressful if you're a baby
>>Are most murses gay?
Nah, most of them are bros, it's a pretty chill position for guys
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>>39883951
Liberals are generally for a living wage and continually raising the minimum wage. Conservatives are generally not.

Obviously most people don't kowtow to their party platform across the board.
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>>39885017
Sounds great anon. Can't wait to start college
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>>39885017
how do you deal with dickhead doctors or ones that you can tell scraped by in school/residency
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>>39881935
>A CNA (I'm taking the course in twenty days) makes 13.46 starting out at my work, 14.46 at nights, which is about 27k a year before taxes. Not bad for someone who isn't even 20 yet no?
No. That's shit.

I started working in security at 20 and was making $30p/h doing fuck all but being big4u in a specific location.

I can't imagine working for less than $15 like you. Do you value hours of your life so little?
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>>39885169
no you werent ya fuckin liar

unless you live in some socialist shithole, then its believable

no one pays 30/hr for a rentacop. try 11/hr
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>>39883843
Renting a townhouse
>>39883912
Car was $45k and i put $20k down as a downpayment, so monthly payments are less than $450 / month.

Most people don't give AF, but i wanted a car with >300 hp and three pedals
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>>39881862
First year uni student here. There are 100 first year nurses at my school: 6 are dudes, and 2 of those dudes are gay. The straight murses are fucking wild party animals. Don't sweat the perception of being a male nurse, man. You do you.
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>>39881887
In my country (Austria) it's becoming more and more common, because "given equal qualification" females have to be preferentially employed for state-funded (don't ask about teh Austrian system) positions in hospitals. That comes after tweaking the entry test for medical studies so that it is "gender equal". So currently the majority of doctors at my hospital is female, and the reason is a large overhang in demographic of childbearing age. There simply aren't enough male doctors for all the female doctors, and because you spend all your time in the hospital a nurse is a logical choice. Although a nurse by itself would probably have too low socioeconomic status, so an intensive care nurse (they have 1 extra year of education) is preferred, it also has that manly life-or-death aura.
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>>39885169

A 20 year old with no kids working a job with shitty pay but career potential is definitely worth it.
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You'll always be seen as someone who failed to be a doctor. You're basically a doctor's bitch.
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Honestly, it's a very high stress job. I had two friends and a cousin who did it...two of them transferred over to administration, one of them just dropped out. Overly long hours, given an amount of work that is literally impossible to finish (my friend said nurses routinely didn't administer all the medicine they should because of this), having to deal with problem patients.
Sure that's fine for a year or two, but for 40?
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>>39885759
This is true, it's not for everyone, I got a friend who did the three-year long training and then quit after a year. He "couldn't take the hierarchy".
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>>39882342

Not everyone can be an engineer
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>tfw in nursing school and the place I work at as a CNA already told me I'm pretty much assured a job out of school

The best feels

>>39885717

I enjoy not being up to my eyeballs in debt, not being in school for way too fucking long and I actually want to work with people
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>>39882613
>-Even if you can work under pressure and have nerves of steel this career will eventually get to you

What does that mean? In practice`?
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>>39885717
By this logic everybody is someone who failed to be somebody.
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Nurses and PCAs are the back bone of healthcare. They should be respected.
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>>39885110

Suck it up until you've been there long enough to give them shit right back
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>>39883094
>l staff don't really follow that hierarchy in social setting and I get respect, but you are always get the 'male nurse lol why didn't you become a doctor?'

You can ask that from every single man who isn't a doctor. Chances are they don't have what it takes because surprise surprise not everyone can be a doctor
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>>39883384

Hospice is fucking great. I hope I never have to work at a psych wing of a nursing home ever in my life
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Wait is doctors banging seriously nurses seriously a thing? Inside the same hospital? It's common?

Thought that was just a tv meme
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>>39886015

>the men in positions of power/prestige within an organization attracting the underling females and hooking up with them

Not believable
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>b-but edumacation is EXPENSIVE
>not joining any branch of the armed forces
>not serving for four years
>not wanting to get paid while getting fit and educated FOR FREE
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>>39882255
>(in Massachusetts, other states may very.)

Fug, that's where I am (not OP though)
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>nurses get paid to pick up shit and fluff pillows for nothing for the next decade

>tfw pharm can make 6 figures by being a glorified line cook

lmao gj guys, you literally got cucked by your parents and their sibs so you can take care of them
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>>39886085
I wish I had that in Europe. Now I'm 22, did basically jack shit from being depressed. I went with the 'hurry up to get an education' motto. I should've figured out what I wanted to do in the first place before getting old.

Such a fucking retard, god damn.

That USA system is the best to me, to be honest. You get 4 years in the army, your tuition gets paid, you stay active, and still have time to figure out what you do. Plus, it feels like after 18 time flies so fast.
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>>39881862
Showing that you are a CNA will help you get in to a college nursing program. My wife an RN with an associates. She makes the same as her colleagues with 4 year degrees. She's over $40/hr. As a male nurse, however, you'll likely be paged to help move every bed-ridden fatty in the hospital. I hope you don't mind lifting a big greasy panniculus now and then.
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>>39886152
>Implying doctors and pharmacists aren't the first medical professionals to go when automation starts taking over the healthcare industry
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FUCK NURSING
unless you want to get fat/underpaid/start smoking/have no life

Become a physical therapist's assistant. I'm going into my second semester. Shit's hard as fuck to get into and the first year is all about weeding/culling the weak, but it's rewarding, you learn about fitness/health, it's interesting, it pays well, and it's not a fucking horror show when it comes to hours and duties. Look into it, but good luck finding a school. I have to drive 70 miles one way to classes from where I live.
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>>39886166

>it feels like after 18 time flies so fast

YOU'RE TELLING ME

HAAHAHHA

HA HA
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>>39886222
This. Most hospitals are going to nurse practitioners and physicians assistants for primary care to save money. Thanks Obama.
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>>39881935

I work two days a week and make 15k a year.........
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>>39886166
but uni is free in Europe and every cuck has an engineering degree or some such?
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>>39886222
>thinking generations will be able to trust WATSON for everything

>rationalitizing shit wiping

yup very soon - because the health care industry has TONS of money to revamp every hospital into a car factory - only nurses are needed to put people into their pods and some custodians to wash off the gunk from the ez-surgery-5000
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>>39886251
what will the salary range change to? or stay the same?
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>>39886449
for PAs it ranges from around 90k (general) all the way to $140k (specialty)
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There are very few male nurses, 90% of the time you will be promoted to a higher position because youre a guy (unless youre a dumbass).

Just dont act cocky in front of other guy docs, at the end of the day youre still a little sissy cuckboy.

>t. medfag
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>>39886233
Yo PTABro I'm doing the same. I'm also going into my second semester. It's really fun, especially lab. 3 more semesters we'll make it and have a comfy life. Fortunately I live 15 min away from school (same city).
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Admit it op, you just want to bang all the nurses.
It is literally worse than lifting for girls
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Amerifag here, specialy California. Graduated a 4yr nursing program back in August, took my licensing exam, starting work at a Level II trauma ER that also does pediatric ER in 3 weeks. Cant wait

My start pay as a new grad is $42-43/hr (nightshift 7pm-7AM) which is pretty fuckin sweet. Live 10mins frm thr hospital anf my roomate is a murse also, but at another hospital

Pros: professional growth, endless pussy, seeing badass shit

Cons: batshit insane druggies in the ER at times (but u get funny stories outta these)

23 years old. Life's lookin gooood
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>>39881862
I was an RN for 8 years and just got my DNP and started working as a nurse practioner
>is it rewarding?
Yes and no, some days you're going to want to murder your patients cause they are such a pain in the ass and treat you like shit, other days you'll love them
>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?
Yes, as an RN i was making 150k a year before taxes (That number is with about a day of overtime a week)
>Can you stay /fit/ doing it?
Yes, you only work 3 days a week. But, don't expect to workout after your shift ends, youll be incredibly tired
>Any tips on becoming one?
Nursing school is very tough, and the programs are tough to get into. When istarted my nursing program in college we started with 140 students and only 18 of us graduated. Where i went and a lot of colleges are doing is that you are only allowed to get 2 C- in any of your classes throughout your college stay before you are kicked out of the program.
>Pros and Cons of Being one?
Cons- Very long shift and you are on your feet. You have to document everything you do, or else its as if it never happned. Youll have anywhere from 6-9 patients it will be very stressful some days. Since youre a guy the other nurses will ask you to help them lift patients all the time. Most americans are 250+ fat fucks so use good form unless you want a bad back by 30.
Pros- its 3 days a week, 36 hours thats paid as 40. Benefits are good. Overtime is pay and a half, so for me it was 90$ an hour. IF you skip your lunch you get paid overtime for an hour.
>Are most murses gay?
No. I think ive only ever seen 2 gay nurses before
Also, i work in one of the top 10 hospitals in the world, so these things may differ for others
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>>39885825
Yes they can, if I can do it then anyone can
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>>39887221
DNP over PA school?
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>>39887285
I think i've only seen a couple of PAs in the hospital in all my time. They don't really hire them as often as nurse practitioners in the hospital setting. I do see a lot of PA's work in Dr's offices and outpatient clinics, but those settings pay much less than if they were to work in the hospital. Whether youre a nurse practioner or PA you can start your own clinic, so thats always an option. Theyve been making changes to get a DNP now, now you can't go straight from a BSN to DNP you actually have to your get masters and DNP programs are hard to get into. Im not sure about PA school ive never researched it. If you're thinking about being a nurse anesthetist dont be deceived by the high salary, they pay a lot in malpractice insurance and nobody really hires them anymore, at least my hospital doesnt.
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For the past 3 years I have worked as a home health aide for a caregiving agency. The money is decent ($12-$15 per hour), but the work can be stressful. I usually work with clients who either have Alzheimer's or Dementia.

Right now I'm finishing my pre-requisites before I apply to nursing school.
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>>39887221
>Where i went and a lot of colleges are doing is that you are only allowed to get 2 C

Lucky bastards. In my accelerated program you can't get below a C+ in any class and your overall GPA needs to be a B or above
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>>39883660
>doctor mad that pharmacists are taking over his responsibilities and calling him out when he writes retarded scripts

TOP JEJ
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>>39887758

God I'm not looking forward to having to tell doctors as a nurse that they fucked up when I see what they prescribed and it somehow made it past the pharmacist
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>>39887902
man, you have no idea how many scripts i've seen where the doctor doesn't even sign. When I'd call their office to tell them, they're always pissy and rude. Doctors have some kind of god complex, and it's infuriating af tbqhwy
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>>39887221

Jesus christ america is fucking insane country. Here in Finland the base pay of nurses is like 15 euros/hour. Ofc night shifts boost it.
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>>39887925
shit people exist in all walks of life you mongoloid
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>>39883788
>tfw doing peds
>tfw peds is the worst compensated specialty
>tfw it's about the only thing I can see myself doing for 30-40 years without killing myself

Match day can't get here soon enough.
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>>39887961
I hear from doctors and med students themselves about how most are complete wankers.
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>>39888092
>about how most are complete wankers.
>everybody is shit but me
If you're a shit dude, you will consider most everybody shit. Stop hanging around with shit people.
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>>39888092

that projecting tho
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>>39887403
What helps to get hired at the hospitals? Age and recommendations? Aside from grades, of course
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>tfw medfag
>only girls I ever dated were also medfags
>now most of them are colleagues
>awkward as fuck treating a patient with another doctor you used to fuck

Maybe it's my autismo, but I prefer to never see or hear from the girls with who it didn't work out.
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>>39887403
also, do techs get hired often? I'd like to work in the hospital while going to school (now) doing the pre reqs rather than just volunteer time and slave away at warehouse pay
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Fit is full of fucking retards holy shit
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>>39881862
No. Nursing is a woman's job.
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Why the fuck are threads like this allowed on /fit/? Like 95% of the posts ITT have nothing to do with fitness; it's just career and wage talk.

The answer to "how do i stay fit with _______ job" is, qlways, "suck it up and lift anyway." Mods do your fucking jobs faggots.
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>>39888343
Yea it's a real jerk off festlately like Reddit. Fucking little faggots.
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>>39883619

It's called being a sitter.

And in most places you aren't even allowed to touch the patients, all you can do is call somebody over who can touch the patients.
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>>39886015

When I worked in the hospital, there was a doctor that I knew of that had two nurses pregnant with his child at the same time and multiple other nurses had been with him before.

Slutty nurses are not uncommon, but I'm very thankful that I avoided getting involved with them while I was there because it's a good way to fuck over your reputation and ruin career development.
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I'm a research murse. It's unlike any other field of nursing. Basically you consent patients for research, assist with clinical trials, do tests on patients etc. Lots of paperwork but it's fascinating, plus a lot more satisfactory IMO than taking orders on the ward. It's also 9-5 and never any night shifts. Also fast promotion. If you can survive nursing school crap and placements etc, this is a worthwhile nursing spec
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>>39888343

people want to make it
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>>39883338
Same pay as other branches of mursing?
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>>39888270
>>39888312
If you wanna get hired quick volunteer, and make sure youre assigned to a medsurg unit. Do as much as you can to make yourself useful, if you ddo it right the nurses there will vouch for you and youll be hired w/o a prob. Also get a couple of certs before you graduate like the phlebotomist crap, if you can take away somebody elses job they like that even more. As for techs the telemetry, radiation, and respiratory ones are what id go for, but you wont get them without a bit of experience, thats where the volunteering goes in. Of course if you know a couple of people you dont need to do any of that, like any other profession people hire who they know instead of whose best qualified unless they are desperate. If you're a guy getting hired as a nurse is real easy, management loves hiring men. If you can put something like cum laude or summa cum laude on your resume that doesnt hurt either. Just try and work in a hospital instead of clinic, the pay is much better.
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>>39882321

people on 4chan can't fucking stand the idea that people work, like their jobs and make good money ... because they're fucking NEET losers
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>>39888491
does having an emt-b cert help also?
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>>39888623
yes
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>>39883022

this anon gets it. to any other US /fit/izens that are considering medicine, unless you're really passionate about helping people avoid nursing. its high stress, you get basically zero respect and get treated like shit by a lot of the doctors and a lot of the patients. X-ray tech or X assistant (anaesthesiologist assistant is the highest paying) do comparatively simple work, don't have a ton of required education and make bank. if you do your job well and don't bitch about having to do menial tasks, you're pretty much indispensable

t. medfag
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just saying that almost all murses are gay so girls will probably assume you are too

source: i have had sex with a lot of murses
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>>39888343

Sorry, let's get back to those THICC threads I'm sure you don't complain about
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>>39888885
How difficult is being an x Ray tech I mean really how much do they even do
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>>39890225
I too wish to know
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>>39888885
I thought that was job was getting phased out?

Though I think I heard that from someone who refused to work towards any career because it was getting phased out in some way or another. He said the same thing about carpentry, dentistry, etc.
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>>39885861
Stress will eventually build up
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>>39888885
>don't have a ton of required education and make bank
I guess your definition of making bank differs greatly from mine and "you're a med fag." Median salaries for x ray technicians / radiologists are pretty low
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>>39888309
>claims to be autistic
>in med school
>"fucked' other doctors

kill yourself
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>>39888343
Because basically all this board is is just bragging. Even though this is 4chan, basically everyone on fit is an alpha male

Average age of fit is 16-19 years old

Everyone on fit has a girlfriend or has tons of FWBs/one night stands

Everyone on fit either has a huge penis or if it isn't, they are sex gods anyway

Everyone on fit has tons of friends

Everyone on fit is either an engineer/student, computer programmer/student, nurse, medical school/doctor, accounting/student, etc, all make more money in school internships than a lot of people do in real jobs and are all rich


It's all the same. It's why threads about girls, threads about sex, thread about being "mired", threads about people to talk about their major/job and how they get paid over 6 figures are so popular
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>>39888885
>not wanting to deal with acutely ill patients in the icu
>not wanting to develop a sense of brotherhood and camaraderie with your bros on the ward
>not wanting to be in a profession with limitless learning opportunities
>not enjoying the adrenaline rush you get out of a crashing patient
>instead opt to be the dude who just puts people in a tube
i don't know about you guys, but i know what i'd pick
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>>39881862
Be a nurse in NY. Get five paid lunch breaks every shift, don't do anything, and page the resident every time the patient breathes- but you have to be fat, black and named Shatisha.
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>>39890946
Lol you just named half my coworkers. But you cant just be a regular African black you've specifically gotta be Jamaican
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>>39881862
fuck being a nurse desu. go into physical therapy, be an assistant. it's easy money and outpatient work is easier to come by than as a nurse.
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>>39891143
Are you in that position? I have tried for a few years to get into physical therapy school but it's pretty difficult, not many schools around and a lot of applicants.

I have been working in a skilled nursing in rehab as an aide/administrative assistant and from what i see physical therapy assistants get paid decently (like $35/hr here in california) and don't have to deal with all the paperwork BS that physical therapists do. I'm considering giving up on PT and going for PTA since I'm 25 now

The only thing I worry about is that I'm not sure what opportunities are there for PTAs. I think outpatient clinics are only PT right?
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>>39881935
I'm 24 with an accounting masters.
My shitshow job at a bottom of the barrel CPA firm gets me 53k a year, and I'm just a staff accountant there I done even have my CPA licence yet.
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>>39881935
>Not bad for someone who isn't even 20 yet no?
A waitress any decent restaurant makes twice that
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>>39881956
>going to med school
>Putting in all that time money and effort
>blow it and pick pharm school
Lol cucked. Have fun working at schnucks
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>>39891178
yes, i work full time in skilled nursing and PRN with an orthopedic rehab hospital. do some shadowing with therapy to boost your chances of getting in.

PTAs aren't even half as liable as PTs if shit hits the fan. as far as outpatient goes, it depends on your region i guess. i'm good friends with a PT who owns an outpatient clinic in my hometown who has a job for me basically whenever i need it, so i guess it depends on who you know. this is SC, though, so it may be totally different from CA.

i'm making 25.60/hr where i am (lower cost of living, i guess), but i've seen really desperate SNF's hiring at 40/hr for fucking PTAs. i can't imagine what you could get paid in california at a SNF in dire straits.

i recommend it, dude. the price/performance ratio of a PTA degree is unreal. there's not a ton of upward mobility, but it's such a steady gig that i couldn't give less of a fuck.
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>>39891190
You mean to tell me a waitress makes 40k a year? You have to be trolling buddy that would equal 22 dollars in tips every hour of every work day for a year. Firstly no way in Hell would a waitress at all but the deadliest of venues make 30,000 a year without also being some form of manager. Have you even eaten at a restaurant?
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Male nurse here. You already have an idea of whether you will like the nitty gritty of the job (the ass wiping, obnoxious patients, etc.). If you can tolerate the shit and enjoy the perks, by all means it is worth it. I love it, personally. I make about $60,000 a year, would make more if I cared to work more. I am fitter now than I have ever been (4 days a off a week leaves lots of time for that). Not gay myself, but there does see to be a higher quotient of gays in nursing, don't know if that's a plus or a minus for you.
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>>39891211
$40/hr for a PTA in fucking south carolina? Dude no way, that's like what a max PTA salary here in california is even in san francisco. PTs make like $45-50 a nour

Can I ask if you got a bachelors degree? This is part of my "embarrassment" you could say, I got a bachelor's degree in exercise biology/science from a major 4 year university and I feel like giving up on PT and going for an associates with PTA would be like a waste.

As for upward mobility, you could always become a director of rehab right? And when it comes to healthcare, who cares about upward mobility really? There's only like a few places up you can go in any health related field
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>>39891219
my friend makes 33k a year working part time as a waiter, but thats essentially maximum because if you work anything but the busiest times you make shit
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>>39891255
I was gonna say my sister worked at local historic 4 star black tie place and make I think 24k her peak year. She would work doubles and almost every holiday
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>>39891245
>40/hr

yes, for really desperate SNFs. this one was probably a PRN rate, but fuck, you can still crank out some hours as a PRN therapist. full-time PTs make about the same, it looks like.

think of it this way, you work 30 hours a week at whatever facility you're interested. you're receiving benefits, etc. you work two weekend days a month at a jacked up PRN rate. buddy, you're making about 4 grand more per year on top of what you're making fulltime by going in a couple saturdays and doing easymode maintenance work.

i don't have a bachelor's degree, no. but about 3/4 of my graduating class had bachelor's degrees in sports science or medicine-related shit. if you have the time, money and interest, go into PT. but i'm telling you, you won't get a better bargain than a PTA degree.

>upward mobility
i guess i just mentioned that in case you were interested in any other field outside of medicine. i know that's important to some people. but yeah, you can be a rehab director. one of my bosses was a rehab director. you can open and own a clinic, too.
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>>39891318
let me clear some shit up, by the way. my girlfriend is talking to me, so some stuff came out year.

>full-time PTs make about the same
as full-time PTs in california, 45-50/hr

>maintenance work
as in, the full-time therapy staff has done 99% of the work, you just have to show up and go with the flow with their POC.
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>>39891340
>came out year

unclear***

jesus christ.
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All you queers are quibbling over a few thousand dollars a year when we're talking about meaningful careers you can work in for most of the rest of your life. In any the fields being discussed in this thread the money will be sufficient for whatever reasonable aspirations you have in your life. There is always further education to be obtained if what you really want is to be a moneygrubbing little fuck deep down inside.
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>>39885035
Doesn't help that liberals are often for lax immigration/open borders which help contribute to these troubles.
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Buff nurses and doctors are so fucking hot. One day I just want to be in an office and the nurse/doctor just takes me on the bench
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>>39881862

1st year Resident here, been working in medicine since 2008 as a EMT/Paramedic. Heres been my general experience with Male Nurses

-Male Nurses are boss. I prefer to have Murses on my team, they have a far more "get shit done" attitude and tend to have sway over the grills from day one. Its the scrubs. Murses are in high demand, and my experience has been generally a Murse NEEDS to be some sense of /fit/, as theres a degree of physical ability needed.

-Nurses in America are paid well. The work is hard, and you are rewarded appropriately for it. I think Nurses are a bit underpaid in a lot of places, but, for example, a Male Nurse at my hospital starts at $28.00-$29.00/hour with a $3,000 signing bonus and a $220/year allowance for medical equipment (really,enough for maybe a good scope and some money for a spig.)
Scrubs are supplied.

>Can you stay /fit/?
Fuck yes. The shifts vary place to place, but some shifts allowed at my hospital include
-five eight hour shifts weekly
-Three twelve hour shifts weekly, usually taken by younger Murses (These shifts cary a shift differential of $2.50/hour extra for shifts starting after 7pm)
-Two 24hr shifts (to a small group of nurses only really, its 10 hours of admin and 10 hours of floor work with 4hrs for sleep)
Theres plenty of allowance there for you to hit the gym, and indeed theres an imperative. I started coming to /fit/ so I could be a more presentable medical professional. I dont want to be a tubby dude talking to my patients about the dangers of obesity when being a stones throw from it myself. I feel RNs should be the same way.

>Any tips on becoming one?

Go to nursing school, study, study, study, be kind and professional, and be a quick thinker.

>Pros and Cons of Being one?

So many pros.
-pay
-hours
-mental reward
-physically rewarding
-interactions
-bitches
-never a dull moment

cons are basically
-mentally taxing job
-bureaucracy
-sense of burden

>Are most murses gay?

Nah
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>>39891340
well that's reassuring to know that 75% of your class had bachelors degrees. were most of them in the PTA program because they were unable to get into PT school?

and i know what a PTA does, both the full timers and the per diems. my main issue is just that it's basically giving up on PT, but i mean i guess you can still go to PT school down the line

and i mean, when it comes to upward mobility, don't most people become PTs or go into that setting because they want to work with patients? when I interned at an outpatient clinic the owners still worked with patients. so it isnt like you'd "upwardly" get out out working with patients
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>tfw working towards physician assistant and read this thread

Graduated already with a bachelor's in biology but I missed some pre-reqs i hope to knock out this semester.

I'm willing to make sacrifices, but I wanna be there for my dog and keep up with my lifts and hopefully be good to start a family. All these horror stories are getting to me.

>>39886251
Makes me feel good I dumped the med school dream halfway through undergrad. Med school sounds like an absolute nightmare but PA only asks for two years.
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>>39891415
only a few of my classmates tried for PT school. a lot of them were just adults looking for a different field of work. you can still go PT down the line, and it'd look good as fuck if you had experience as a PTA. one of my coworkers just graduated from PT school, and he's like 40. but he played pro baseball for years, so he has a better excuse i guess.

everyone in PT has some altruistic sense to them, and they're all people persons. but the allure of owning/operating a clinic and selling it is what drives a lot of young medical professionals.
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>>39891447
>start a family
>posts on 4chan

i have bad news man
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>>39891447
Tbh lad what fucking horror stories? Three twelves is not a horror story. 90k a year (low end) is not a horror story.
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>>39891459
Let me dream
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RN here, I do love my job, but like everyone else here has said there are downsides like working with women that are bat shit crazy, and the druggies that have flushed their lives down the drain.
One thing my instructors taught me in nursing school was that the doctor is responsible for diagnosis. The nurse is the one who is responsible for the management of care. I think that sums that up really well. Most doctors might make more money but they have autism, so they are no competition. Please understand getting your RN is very hard, there was a fag on here that said micro biology would be the hardest class. That is far from the truth. Nursing school moves very fast, there is an exam every week and you will need to make at least an 80. If you do not make an 80 on exam my school and many others will make you do a thing called remediation. That shit can take forever to complete, also the class days are crazy long, we were in class for 8 hours a day, two days a week, then your clinicals will take at least 8 hours a day. You will have to do a thing called pre planning for your clinical. It can really depend on who your instructor is on how long your pre planning is. sometimes you can do its in as short as couple of hours and don't think you are special if you have to spend 4 or 5 hours to finish all the research for your pre planning.You will normally have 2 clincals aweek, but thats up to your school. I think they set it up weed out all non hackers if you will my nursing school we started out with 72 people and I graduated with 19. That is one of the reasons why you are busy. It's not a hard job, however it's a high responsibility job. I do find it very rewarding, and the patients that are ass hole druggies well they make the for good stories so it all works out. As far how will women see you?? Once you tell her you are a nurse the next thing she will ask is what kind and you say RN. Well if you can not get laid with that, then you have no cock. lol
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>>39891464
The emotional stress my man. Some anons here posting about picking up smoking/drinking etc from nurse work alone.

Appreciate it though, long term was specializing in dermatology because I'm a faggot like that.
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>>39891493
I mean yeah shit gets stressful in an ED but especially as a PA, you can get a job in any other less stressful field as well. I have not met a single person who thinks PA school is a bad idea.
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>>39891483
This sounds exactly like my school excluding the test remediation. Clinicals were grueling and were real physical and mental work. I just graduated and will be taking the NCLEX this month. Crazy that these last two years of absolute torture all come down to this one test.
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>>39891619
Congrats man!!! It will be worth it!!! Two things you need to know are
1. Every lab value you have ever had you had better know. It's been a while, but I think when I took the nclex I think they set it up to where if you understood the lab value you might not get the answer right away. However, you will get close, and in nursing where they like to give you 4 right answers thats a lot lol

2. Please remember its a minimum competency test. I know you have met a nurse, and you were like how the hell you did you get here?? Just remember she passed this. lol
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>>39891537
I'm just being a pussy the night before i can register for my pre-req classes somewhat nervous. Gonna make it.
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>>39890796
>median salary for radiologist is low
???

sure, X-ray techs only make a median of $50,000, but it only requires an associates degree

>>39890341
it isn't. the amount of X-rays, MRIs and CT scans are increasing steadily

>>39890225
you put people on a table. you make sure your equipment is aimed correctly (X-ray machines are typically overhang, tubes are CT and MRI) its really not difficult at all
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>>39881935
Jesus, I made 12.20 working at Home Depot. Become a nurse anon.
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>>39891483
Tips for nursing school? Did you work and school? What kinds of hours if so? What kinds of things would I be expecting I know my prereqs will be easy but Idk what nursing school would focus on clearly
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>>39892181
I would see if the school has an extern program. They are very flexible and understand that nursing school is hell. They will understand if you wanna take two months off just so you can study. If the school does not offer it most hospitals do as a recruiting tool. The hospitals near me some paid as low as 9 dollars and hour and as much as 15 hour.

Once you get into nursing school watch the shit out of this guys videos. https://www.youtube.com/watchv=EPqa6dJxm2Q

Now for the prereqs I would watch this shit out of this guy. Fink is a great teacher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw6sGZINF0M

This is just a random video of his, but even if you know nothing about the subject he can really teach you about it. So be sure and subscribe to him. I remember I had a teacher for anatomy who english was a second language for him, and would walk out and had no clue what he had just taught us, I would watch professor Flink and it would just click.
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>>39881935
LOL i work in a shitty factory with mexicans making sugar packets and make 12$ an hour i hope once u get cna or whatever they give you 15-20 an hour at least
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>>39892378
They pay extra for nights and weekends, so from the get go I'd make 15.46, barring any raises I get for being male or experienced.
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>>39883149
Sorry for honing in on such a valuable, but wtf the fucking fuck does a charge nurse do over the standard nurse? A back up float for every patient or are they in charge of the unit?
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If you still wanna be in the med field, go to xray school. only an Associates degree and still make decent money. Its a lot lifting people but you only have to deal with them for 5 minutes. Once you get board, you can learn a new modality like CT, MRI, or NUC MED and make much more money. Currently making 20/hr in butt fuck Tennessee working a mobile job, but I get paid to workout on slow days, so I feel like I'm making it
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>>39892429
Thats a hard one to explain. they do everything from dealing with staffing on the floor and making schedules, and dealing with CPS or evening nurses that are addicted to drugs. They will also deal with if we get a critical lab value, she will make sure the RN is made aware of it. Also they will also make sure the charts are updated. The best way I know how to explain it she is a fireman and she goes around putting out fires. And when you have 21 women working on a floor. Well that hole floor is a fucking forest fire then. Please understand something goes wrong everyday on a floor, and she has to deal with it.
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>>39890225
Rad Tech here, Xray school can be hard, mainly because of clinicals, its basically having unpaid part time job 3 days a week. once you pass your registry, youve got options from a clinic, hospital, pain injection clinic, Mobile and OR. Depending on where you are, the job market might be saturated, so it may be hard getting a job. I had 3 offers a month before I graduated, So jobs are out there. Dont waste your time perusing some kind of limited license bullshit because you see an add online. Go to a community college and Become an RT, radiologic technologist, that's actually what we are called. you'll get to some really cool trauma, random shit stuck up someones rectum, have barium enemas blowout and completely ruin the chance of ever enjoying a wendys frosty again, and naturally, deal with bullshit xray orders from doctors, nurse practitioners, and Physician assistants who dont have a fucking clue in 2017 "cover your ass" medicine
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>>39882955
>EMT
>want to die fighting at the front lines

Yeah fuck off, they get paid like shit and the work is shit compared to nursing.
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working as a murse sounds pretty fun and i wouldn't mind wearing a scrub desu
would i really have to deal with fatties like this thread says? fuck being a glorfied janitor too.
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>>39887221
>150k a year before taxes

What fucking unit are you working on and are you in Boston? I do home care with a BSN and I think I made 75k last year barely working. Pulling 12 hour shifts and where the fuck are you working that they don't bitch and moan about OT

Anon why are you lying
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Former murse here
>is it rewarding
Yes and no. I spent all my murse years in the Navy and strictly ED. Shit was cash
>comfortable living?
Military pay isn't bad for mursing. Initially you will make less than national average as an ENS, but once you get your LT you'll live VERY comfortably
>tips on becoming a Murse
Just enroll in a pre-nursing program, you already have CNA experience so your app will be a tad stronger
>pros and cons
Lots of bull shit, non compliant patients, military nursing usually does 3 12's then 4 12's the next week, and they rotate 3 / 4 / 3 every week.
Also once a week briefings, varied scheduling (had to work a day 12, followed by a night 12, followed by day 12, also had to pull a 20 hour shift on several occasions. All you can do is drink coffee and put a big dip in
Lots of bull shit casualty drills too
>are most murses gay?
Some

I'm in a D.O Program currently, so if you have any questions on osteopathic medicine education or curricula lmk
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>>39882040
I'm literally a male nurse who has been dating a JMO the last year.

My mate is also banging a psychiatrist.

I wouldn't be suprised if my girl ditched me for a doctor and her rich parents would probs be happier lol
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>>39893127
>deal with fatties
Yes, you'll deal with fatties. Fatties who refuse to listen to you, will outright lie to you, who will eat a candy bar behind your back and absolutely swear it never happened. You'll also insert catheters into these people. You might even have to perform personal care on some as well.

>glorified janitor
What? Unless you're a nursing assistant or you're maximum cuck working in a GP clinic, you'll never do anything even closely involving janitorial work.
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>>39891483
Wow. So how much do you earn a year?

I live in Aus and an RN.

I make 55000 base wage annual, but due to penalty rates and overtime I made 70.

Not sure how that equates to American standard of living.

I managed to save 20k and I've got two weeks off, six of which are paid and im travelling the world
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>>39886116
stay away from wingate.thank me later.
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>>39881862

> tfw starting physiotherapy course this summer
> tfw gonna drown in hot nurse pussy
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>tfw almost all the female JMO's are 8/10 looking
>They only notice the +9/10 looking male JMO's/reg's
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>>39893216
>not wanting to wear the pants in the relationship

lol
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>>39893288
Depends the cost of living in my city is low for a single person household, just a couple hundred under $25,000 a year. And that's assuming you live comfortably enough to pack away the dollars even at a small rate without financial distress barring something traumatic or costly.

75k here and you can live like a middle class king my property taxes are only about $2000 annually
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>>39890130
irrelevant deflection
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>>39893200

What age are you now going into DO? Family? And is the Navy picking up the tab?
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>>39893288
I think my base pay is like 60K - 65K a year. However, due to over time, and the fact I like to work knights I make more then that. I think I made 82 thousand last year. I live in a low cost of living state. Which makes it nice, I bought investment property so I don't have that much saved up via cash if you will, but I trust myself a lot more with retirement money then I do some stock broker. I like the idea of being able to control my destiny.
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>>39893425

I actually live near South Hadley/Springfield. Good thing I'm doing everything I can to never work in a nursing home ever in my life. Thanks for the advice
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