Man dies after barbell falls on neck while benchpressing

Not really sure why safety rails arn't always incorporated into dedicated bench press equipment. Safety rails don't mean you have to do a 'pin' bench press. It's fine if they are 1-3 inches below the top of your chest as you will probably survive a broken rib.
Without safety rails, your neck gets crushed or your heart gets turned into a pancake.
An unexpected seizure, fainting spell, or muscle tear can cause you to drop a bar faster than your spotter can even react.
Being macho isn't worth causing a crippling injury to your heart or crushing your neck.

bump and RIP

Was he using the suicide grip?

>>39832440
>probably survive a broken rib.

unless it splinters into a vital organ perhaps?

>>39832322
F
I started benching in the squat rack with safety pins but nonetheless I'm not going pass 270

>>39832470
Well yeah obviously, but I don't know if he was using the traditional suicide grip or he made up his own more effective version

And that's why you use dumbbells.

F

Can confirm: The bench press is were most injuries in the gym happen. Close second would be treadmills/ellipticals.


Source: I was A Paramedic/f/ucker

>>39832529
This
RIPIP

This is why I focus on ohp, I just throw in some pullovers to hit chest.

RIP Kyle.

If you look at the 5th pick on the site you can see he did not have PL arch form so gg.

>>39832541
Plenty of gruesome stories btw.

Thats why ALWAYS lock out before moving the bar to re rack and always make sure you're racked.
Also breath.

>>39832484
It's still not risk free, just a lot safer. A bar making your ribs and sternum suddenly move three inches might kill you if the bone splinters or the impact occurs between heart beats. The main issue with safety rails is that commercial power cages don't have adjustment holes at small enough distances so that you can bench with full ROM but still have the pins at just under chest level. They need to have westside style pin hole distances
If you drop 315lbs with the pins set .5" under chest level, with high strength pins and a bar, I'd doubt you'd get the kind of fracture where the bone splinters.

Damn. That sucks. I always bench in the power cage with the safeties. Partly to avoid this, but entirely because that's all my gym has. If it does drop it will scare the shit out of me but I will walk away.

315. rip brah

>>39832586
It's called Commotio Cordis m8,
The window is Teenyteenytiny and in grown adults Rare as fuck.

That's why you always lockout your elbows.
That's why you never use a suicide grip.
That's why you never ego-lift, because let's be honest, these things usually don't happen with a 5RM.
That's why you always use a spotter or safety rack when going for 1RM.
That's why you always use some degree of a powerlifting arch, because even when you fail, it will rarely be above your throat.

I don't know. I've never been close to dropping the bar, and I've failed by my own without safety pins or a spotter more times than I can count. It's really hard to just drop something when you're superfocused and supertight in your whole body I feel.

This is why you should not ever go for your 1rm.

>>39832703

It's actually really fucking rare to see someone drop the bar from suicide grip. Most bench drops happen with a regular grip simply because your thumbs aren't gonna do shit if the bar starts moving.

>>39832529
>>39832541
>>39832567

These. The Barbell Bench Press is a dangerous and outdated exercise. I'd like to see it banned at every gym.

>>39832769
Naw, just maybe a little bit of clarification in the fitness community.

Gyms that hold regular free lifting lessons have dramatically less calls.
>>39832541

>>39832726
> most bench drops happen with regular grip

that because most people use a regular grip, not because regular grip is equally or more dangerous than suicide grip.

> thumbs aren't going to do shit if the bar starts rolling

it's literally directly in the way of the bar if it rolls slightly.

>>39832567
>tfw shoulder impingement means I can't do pullovers

>>39832726
>Most bench drops happen with a regular grip
Isn't that because most people use a regular grip, Thus making most bench drops happen with that grip?
>your thumbs aren't gonna do shit if the bar starts moving.
Your thumbs might give you a few seconds to react so the bar wont fall on you rather than just having it sllip out of your hands when you use suicide grip. But this really wouldn't be an issue if you just know your limits and don't try and lift more than you can handle.

>>39832800

It's in the way, but it's not going to stop serious weight if it starts moving. That's how a lot of the drops happen - the bar starts to slide or roll and the shift forces the thumb down (or in one case I know of, dislocated the poor bastards thumbs).

Also a paramedic here, worst I seen from a gym was when a barbell fell on this dude's face, smash all his teeth out broke his jaw and he died, curbstomped by a barbell. I wouldn't recommend it.

>>39832322
>tfw same age, same state, and same area.

Damn man.

How long until fatties spin this into their reasons for not lifting?

>>39832868
This is real? How heavy was the barbell?

>>39832868
Dang, my guy didn't die.
Definitely smashed his jaw and teeth, tipped his cheek and fucked his neck up a little.
Curbstomp is an excellent way to put it.

The dude had excellent health/dental so he's got a bunch of shiny new teeth now.

>>39833066
*Ripped.

That's why you don't let retards in the gym.

>>39833055
They had removed the weights by the time we got there but said it was 3pl8. Could have been less desu he wasn't that big.

>>39833055
20 kg

Now count the total reps people do all over the world every day with dangerous weight, without dropping.

It's extremely unlikely to happen regardless.

>>39833118
This is the equivalent of the guy squatting for the first time ever trying 2 plate in sandals.

>>39832440

So much this.

Slipping can happen without suicide grip. Watched one of max chewning videos he was benchin and all of a sudden barbell slipped at him.

Tho not sure if its max or omar isuf. Always use chalk when benchin specialy people like me who hvlave uber sweaty hands.

>>39832507
Feel bad for the guy, but I chuckled.

RIP and this is why the fuck you always use the safeties when you are benching alone. Especially when you are going heavy

>>39832322
I bench in one of these. Used to be worried all the time before. After a close call situation I bought a power cage instead of the rack I had before. It's got good grips for pushups, dips and you can squat in it as well, so I'm happy with it. Planning to get the attachment with the weight magazine for rows and other pulls.

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>>39833152

>>39832440
Tl;dr this is the faggot in your gym that benches in the squat rack to use the safety bars

Someone was taking Dom's advice seriously.

> tfw I just hit 97.5kg bench press for reps
> tfw one of my biggest motivations since I started lifting a long time ago was getting 100kg aka 2plate for reps
> tfw my gym has no safety rails on the benches
> tfw I may never try for the 100kg 5RM again

not even shitposting, actually.

>>39833129
I saw the vid where Omar did it. Shit looked painful. He said it fucked his sternum up for a couple years.

>>39832440
> not really sure why safety rails aren't always incorporated
BAR HAS TO TOUCH YOUR CHEST FAGGOT

If you want to pussy out on the king of all exercises, do it in the smith machine

Sheiko saves lives. Never go to failure on bench unless you have a COMPETENT (read: big guy) spotter, and stay well below 90%. In the case of sheiko, doing sets at an average intensity of 70% for insane amounts of shittening pissening sickening volume.

>>39833236
>king of all exercises

lost

>>39833192
What part of "dedicated bench press equipment" don't you understand?
As lifting continues to become more popular, chains like Gold's will probably start buying bench presses with built-in adjustable safeties for insurance purposes. The lack of safety rails wasn't an issue when most gym goers struggled to bench 200 but now even at Anytime Fitness you'll see crossfit dads repping out 275. Spotting is laughably ineffective at preventing a dropped BP from fucking someone up and gyms will either need to go to smith machines or safety BP.
>>39833236
I use two hard dicks as safety rails. They are supple enough for the barbell (also a dick) to be able to touch my chest.

How heavy does it need to be to do serious damage?

>>39833427

Depends on the person and how unlucky they are. I've seen people get pretty beaten up by a sub-200 roll of shame. I've also seen one guy shrug off dumping close to 400 on his stomach (if we extend this to videos rather than just in-person stuff, I've also seen guys pull up fine after losing a grand or more forward in gear).

I wonder if someone added a plate on each side so he would have a respectable weight to die under

>>39833236
If you adjust the bench to the right height then there is no reason you can't use safety rails and touch the bar to your chest. I bench in a cage and I can touch the bar to my chest, the safety rails are lower than my chest but higher than my neck, it's perfect. I've failed reps many times and I just gently lower the bar down and sneak out from under.

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And all could have been avoided by not using a suicide grip and setting up the damn safeties.

That's why you don't use suicide grip. Even if you have 2 spotters they're not going to be able to instantly catch 315lbs falling through the air.

>>39832322
he looks exactly like the ugly cunt who manages to die from something like that

Why did i have to read this?
Now i'm gonna be shitting my pants on bench tomorrow

Suicide grip lives up to it's name again.

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>mfw starting to get cartilage pain in my sternum

>>39833236

You set the safeties below your chest you fucking div.

That way you can get full ROM but if you drop the bar it's not going to crush down and crush your heart against your spine, it's just going to smash the first inch of your chest and then stop.

It's the difference between a bruised chest/broken ribs and sitting there dying as the mush that was your internal organs leaks out of your asshole.

>>39833626

Or you just drop your arch, which'll put your chest below the safeties.

It'll fuck the bar but that's better than it fucking your chest.

>>39832322
>thumbless grip
Is this really a surprise?

>>39833637
If the bar drops on your chest when you have an arch, it will just push your chest down and won't compress it that much.

>>39833564
Also check this video out to see how useless spotters are in some situations.

https://youtu.be/AUZYeTbyzzQ?t=32s

>>39833129
It was Omar Isuf and he was using the suicide grip

>>39832322
There's thousands of guys working out every hour and they don't die.

>>39832567
Enjoy having a shitty chest m8. Also incline bench press ftw.

>>39832322
don't be a sperg
ask for a spot

>>39832322
F

>>39832322

Would have been fine if he would have

>had a spotter
>not used suicide grip (maybe)
>used chalk

Friendly reminder to use chalk for any heavy lifts.

>>39832507
muy bueno

>>39833694

jesus, I'm never doing bench again

I'm seriously thinking about changing to DB benches now, fuck.

>>39833848

I actually know a guy who very nearly died from DB benching. Lost position on a heavy rep and the DB fell inwards. Bruised up his collarbone pretty bad but another inch or two inwards and it would've gotten him in the throat.

Freak accidents happen. The implements don't change that.

>>39832541
Agree. Former long-term free-weight trainer -- very 'ole school ex-meathead. Repeatedly told me that the same info. for years. He actually saw more damage from chicks, dudes and sad, clueless people on treadmills/elepticals. He always spotted me with his hands - inches from the bar when I pressed.
Paz

Maybe it's time gyms enforce limits on how much people can lift... or have a national bill signed, something like the "Safe Gains Initiative" that prohibits from going ham in the weight room at public gyms.

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And today is a push day..
Wish me luck.

>>39833885
>having a push day
Pretty sure your working weight is non lethal

>>39832841
how do you think rolling out of your hands starts? it starts with it just moving a tiny bit, losing your grip just a bit. using a normal grip means you hold on to the bar better.

it's safer, period. there's not even a discussion there. if you like doing suicide grip, go for it, maybe it does feel better for you, whatever, but don't pretend it's safer than regular.

>>39833885
holy fucking new years

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>Now I'm scared of lifting.

You fucking sons of bitches. How about you fucking do things properly with good form and stop ego lifting. That way you don't fucking put your bitchass throat at risk.

>>39833192

you can put safety rails on a bench you gigantic fucking retard

>>39832579
That's not Kyle, that's just a pic of inside the gym

>he doesn't have safety bars on his bench

Luckily I never max or anything

>being so afraid of dying that you can't even fucking bench press
Lol fucking faggot cucks, how do you even function. Do you not drive a car either?

Serious question here guys, how does dips compare to bench? Don't they hit essentially the same muscles?

>>39832584
Do tell.

>>39832322
Owner of my gym once dropped 3pl8 on himself. Cracked his sternum and some ribs. Didn't die unfortunately. Guy is a real piece of shit lol so the whole thing was a good laugh.

>>39835819
well.....THAT ESCALATED QUICKLY

>>39832322
Blonde hair is already rare and the blonde dude gets killed.

>>39833192
True, but i have a home gym because i'm not a poorfag who needs to stand in line to rent weights from someone else.

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even if you have the bars it will still hit your chest because you're not going to get rom with the bars being over your chest

guaranteed chest pain for a few weeks

Did he ever use a trip here?

>>39835819
What is he, a child molester? Faggot? Race mixer? Kike?

>>39835850
That's why people with rare European traits need to have kids asap because not everyone loves to procreate and die of old age.

Normie lifters don't get it. Of course they will never hurt themselves with muh 185lb bench.
I was in track and field for years and myself and many of my teammates suffered unexpected, catastrophic injury during weight training. Not due to problems with form, just the body failing. This is what ended my shotput career:
>back squating 10x315 as a warm up set
>get deep in the hole and feel sharp pain in quad
>part of quad has rolled up leg
>no power, lose balance, and begin to fall
>left hand dumps barbell to grab quad while right hand stays in place
>barbell drops to floor twisting right arm back
>attempt to drop forward and down to escape but the bar falls too fast and the torque breaks right arm
And that's how I got a quad tear and a spiral fracture of the humerus. At the time I back squated 585 so it wasn't even that heavy by my standards.
If I had set the safety rails, I'd have a blown quad which would heal in a few months. Instead I have a huge metal plate in my arm and shit tons of scar tissue. I can't even pitch a baseball properly anymore.
Ignore safeties at your own risk.

>>39836212
normies don't even bench 185... at least not for reps

>>39835850
That's a ginger.

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>>39832322

"All of the accidents you hear about weight training that result in fatalities... All of them happen right here on this exercise. Respect the bench. Use it, but respect it."

-Mark Rippetoe

>>39832529
Have fun dropping it on your skull

>>39832567
So you'll drop it on your head instead?

>>39833694
What the fuck is happening in the second clip?
Is he celebrating or in pain?

>>39833848
Buddy of minr doing DB incline.
Get them up and one arm started going over his head.
For some reason he didn't let go.
Said his shoulder became dislocated.
Told me a guy there witessed it, grabbed him by his shoulder, out his knee on his chest, and popped him back into place.

I have no reason to not believe him. He also doesn't do DB incline anymore.

Paramedic here and i see at least 1 case of this every week.

>>39833192
You're really gonna sit here and talk shit on the guy using the equipment for its intended purpose after reading an article about a guy getting his throat crushed? DYEL and stupid

>>39833236
You are really bad at reading

>>39833848
Db is Wayyyyyy sketchier. Once you get up into the heavy weights where you have to use momentum to get them into position, it becomes a hospital visit or funeral waiting to happen. I was excited to max out my DB press with the heaviest weights in mu gym, but it just got too goddamn dangerous. One mistake in getting the weights in position, or if it slips out of your hand and it's 150 lbs falling into your mouth, or crushing your skull, or crushing your neck, or breaking all your ribs. There are no safeties with DB bench. One mistake with the heavier weight and you can kill yourself real quick.

>>39836662
This, db is honestly scarier than BB once you start getting into heavier weight. I just keep it as an assistance with lower weight higher reps

If you lift with fear, you shouldn't lift at all.

That's what a 50 year old Croatian power lifter told me.
If I bench press now, I just don't give a fuck. Even doing false grip like Arnold.

>>39836591
No you don't

>>39832322
LET ME GUESS

HE USED SOME MEME GRIP WHERE HIS THUMB ISN'T AROUND THE BAR

>read about benching accidents
>99% of them because bar "slipped" due to improper grip

NEVER use a thumbless grip if you are not lifting in a power rack with safety. it doesn't matter how strong you are. if your hands are sweaty the bar has a high chance of slipping and once that happens you won't be able to stop it.

i haven't benched outside power racks since 1pl8 and i don't regret a thing. i value my life more than some numbers

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>personal goal was to bench 315
>read this
>maybe I should do 135x40 instead

S-Same thing, right guys?

>>39833694
>using so much weight they can't even do 1rep
And this is why accidents happen.
>>39836525
He's celebrating.
>>39836662
If you have to use momentum aren't you using too much weight?
>>39837360
>NEVER use a thumbless grip if you are not lifting in a power rack with safety.
Why would you ever use a thumbless grip?

>People mocked me for lifting with pins
>I can rep 315 now and nobody gives me shit
>never fear of hurting myself

>>39837360
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

I just looked at a bunch of videos of bench accidents and a lot of them were using the normal grip.

>>39837442
bench in a cage for 1rm, with the safety bars set above your chest
it's LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE, to drop it on yourself

>>39833467
>losing a grand
Horrifying. Multiply bench takes BALLS.

>>39836212
Sorry to hear brah, that's rough, but will take that advice to heart.

Accidents are called accidents for a reason, nobody plans them.

>>39837467
>pins
I lift with pins too. Benching is the most common cause of death while lifting. It is particularly deadly when lifting on your own.

>>39837509
Yes it does. Misgrooving has also snapped forearms.

>>39836248
B.S. I am 62 years old, small guy, low Test for years until a couple of yers ago and bench 185 for 10.

>>39835642
Do weighted dips and you're good to go

>>39832322
>do deadlifts
>live
>do bench press
>die
Rly makes you ponder....

>>39832529

db always feels far more dangerous to me

>>39837921
>Deadlift is practice for standing3
>Bench is practice for escaping your coffin

Brain = Exploded

>>39832769

we should install some kind of alarm incase someone starts benching rite

>>39833749

my gym bans chalk

Things like this shouldn't happen when you're working with your 5rm, if you're going for a 1rm do it in the power cage so the pins can save your ass, or your neck.

RIP anyhow, it's really sad that things like this happen in this day and age, every gym should have safety stands, it should become a violation if your bench lacks the correct safety equipment.

>>39832484
Its not all bad. I had a rib puncture and lacerate my liver once, ended up getting me a two day hospital stay and a week off of work to trip on the Percocets they gave me for pain.

>>39833236
>king of all exercises
>not the diddly

Go home, son. Let the adults talk.

>>39832322
>drop 170 on my face
>two guys rushed over to help me
>stop benching cause scared and embarrassed
>for 2 months and just do weighted dips
>come back and work my way up to 200x5
>see this
>I do bench today
Guys, I'm scared.

>>39833876
How does someone injure themselves on an elliptical? I get the treadmill, people get going to fast, eat it and then get flung into a wall but how uncoordinated do you have to be to mess up the elliptical?

>>39833214

>being this much of a pussy

The guy in The story was obviously ego lifting and made a retarded jump in weight

>>39838157
how do you DROP it on your face?

the worst you should be doing is failing a rep and lowering it only your chest
it's only 170 lol

I bet he was benching 1,5 pl8 and his buddies added 1,5 pl8 more after his neck was crushed just to make him look good.

>>39832322
RIP /fit/izen

>>39837630
>62 years old
>On a chan

Either you lead a very sad life or this is bait. I'm leaning toward the latter.

>>39838179
I had some pain in my biceps tendon in one arm and thought it was okay to lift anyways. I didn't realize you use your biceps to stabilize the lift so it started hurting a lot during the second rep and instead of just letting it drop on my chest and roll it off, I tried to rack it on the lower pins. Bad idea, I managed to rack it with my uninjured arm, on the other side it landed on my face. Left a bruise for like a week or so.

>>39832490
>Benching in the squat rack

Blasphemy!

>>39833192
I care more about not dying than what you think of me.

>>39838203
morbid kek

>>39837460
Yeah bro let me just curl 80lbs per hand.

>>39832769
>i can't lift lmao1pl8 -the post

>>39838855
Edgy

>>39836599
>Benching
>Squat rack
>Intended purpose

Nope

>>39836662
>Db is Wayyyyyy sketchier. Once you get up into the heavy weights where you have to use momentum to get them into position, it becomes a hospital visit or funeral waiting to happen. I was excited to max out my DB press with the heaviest weights in mu gym, but it just got too goddamn dangerous.

agree mostly... its less likely to kill as you can throw the DBs to the side or let them roll off a slow descent.

ive broken a finger putting heavy DBs down though.

>>39839545
Idk what it is with you guys. I've never even once considered benching a bar or dumbells "dangerous".

>>39832322
Don't use suicide grip, kids

>>39832322
Today we learned why it's called a "suicide grip" kids

Really with 315? Yous askin' fo death nigga

Read this whole thread. So he did a reverse bench with suicide grip?

He was asking to die.

>>39833214
Just use a spotter. I do it for 75kg.

>>39839652
Always have your thumbs around the bar and the safety bars set and/or knowledgeable spotter. Weight training is a relatively safe sport as long as you're using common sense.

I was doing laying skull crushers with a dumbell. Dumbell snapped in half due to freak accident. 20 pounds to the teeth. I consider myself lucky

>>39832440
I have a rack at home many times bench alone so always have the safety catchers set to where I could roll it forward and wiggle out. I've failed many reps safely.

>>39833066
but that black guy died from curbstomp in American history X. The old black and white documentary you know.

Welp, I bench 3pl8 for reps regularly without a spotter

no suicide grip though

also you can use a catch rack if you bench with a slight back arch like you're supposed to (not necessarily the ridiculous PL rainbow arch)

>>39839830
Yeah, but have you ever dropped it?

A regular fail where you can't push it up is alright, because you can just tilt it to one side to remove weights.

>>39832490
But that's stupid. With the safeties set properly you can do (and fail) whatever you want. Without safeties, you can decapitate yourself with 135 too.

>>39840031
If you're so weak that you decapitate yourself with 135 then you deserve it.

>>39839463
>I would rather die than look dumb at the gym

>>39832322
CHRIST WHAT A MANLET LMAO

>>39832440
dont be a pussy, if u fail a rep you deserve to die

>>39832322
Can't stand this cunt

>>39840344
You're not gonna die with your >2pl8 you fucking dweeb. If I catch you benching 2pl8 in the squat rack in my gym I'll spit in your milk

>>39840395
Here's your (You).

>>39839959
why the fuck would you drop it are you retarded or something

>>39837929
>lose ability to hold weight
>weight falls (probbo on your chest)
>bounces off and doesn't continue compressing your life
>lose ability to lift weight, but maintain grip
>use all the strength you have left to move arms outward/down to your hips
>maybe fuck up your shoulders, but probably never drop anything on yourself

>>39832322
Holy shit I met this dude
F

>>39832322
Fuck that sucks

F

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>"Yontz says there were spotters watching Thomson on the bench."
>there were spotters watching

WATCHING ISN'T SPOTTING YOU STUPID ASSHOLE, ANY MORON CAN WATCH, YOUR HANDS HAVE TO BE UNDER THE BAR READY TO CATCH OR LIFT IT IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG

GODDAMMIT