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/OWG/ - Olympic Weightlifting General

A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.

>Happy Holiday's Edition

>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://www.chinfl.blogspot co.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mjgz5nmcikhhvnu/28iq3URWUW

>helpful blog on some technique quirks:
yashathoughts.com

>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.

Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
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My parents want me to get something for under $100 for my weightlifting. What should I get?

I've got shoes already, old ass Wei Rui VX3 but still works fine. Thinking about knee wraps. Any suggestions?
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>>39788963
KNP makes a dece pair of knee wraps.

http://kilosnotpounds.com/products/california-roll-2-0

http://kilosnotpounds.com/products/copy-of-california-roll

unfortunately the site says sold out.

Hookgrip also makes knee wraps.

http://store.hookgrip.com/shop/russian-knee-wraps/
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>>39788978
Mmm what about knee compression sleeves?
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>>39788992
Hookgrip makes them as well.
http://store.hookgrip.com/product-category/equipment/knee-sleeves-wraps/

Some people use the slightly thicker Elieko sleeves
http://www.eleikoshop.com/products/eleiko-knee-support

rehband is also fairly popular.
http://www.roguefitness.com/nutrition-more/brands/rehband
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>>39788992
complete waste of money
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>>39789164
Do they not help support the knee at all?
Would a weightlifting belt (kinda looking at the Eleiko ones) be a better buy?

They just want to give me an useful sub $100 weightlifting present for me.
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my wish for chirstmas is wl gf brehs ;_;
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>>39789187
Kinda better for just keeping knees warm. The rebound of sleeves isn't as pronounced or noticeable as wraps.

Valeo, and Harbinger make good but cheap belts.
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>>39789231
I see.

I wanna get something nice UpTo $60-70 for a belt and the rest spend on wraps. Any suggestions in that price range for quality stuff?

I wanted to get eleiko equipment but heard their stuff isn't the best in that department
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>>39789418
4in Valeo belt is dece, shouldn't be more than $25 on amazon.
$15-25 for the sleeves/wraps.

Get a pair of generic cotton wrist wraps for pulls -- Pic related. $15 on higher end. You can get PL straps, cut and retape them to be like pic related.

All under $100
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>>39788978
I've seen two other people widen their knees (and then their knees go further in) like that.

Honestly, I would think it would destroy your knees if anyone did that. How do they get away with it?
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>>39789187
if i were you id just get the hookgrip knee sleeves. theyre cheap, and theyre going to be better long term than expensive knee sleeves. if you need knee sleeves to squat, then youre squatting wrong.
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Who /squateveryday/ here?
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>>39790606
who /bigfatass/ here?
I really need to do something to my upper body
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>>39790606
I squat every workout, although I tend to only work out like 4-5 days a week instead of the full 7 because I'm a lazy fuck.
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Hi /owg/. Merry Christmas! I asked these two questions yesterday already but forgot to check back for any replies.
I just recently started doing olympic lifts but can't get in a full squat position during the 3rd pull. I end up in the starfish position (power snatch but with an extremely wide receiving stance). I also find it difficult to balance the bar above my head during the 3rd pull. It feels like my bar wants to swing either back or forward despite me pinching my back muscles together (I also have weightlifting shoes already).
What can I do? I've been stuck with no progress for 2 months. Thanks!!!
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>>39789558
I just injured my right knee last week doing that. I would also like to know how they get away with that especially since they are squatting a lot of weight
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>>39790816
Hip snatches, drop snatches, overhead squats
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> think i have a pretty decent clean technique
> watch clean at 8 times normal speed
> cringe
God fucking damn it. I was really almost happy
My feet don't even jump at the same time. My back is too bent over during triple extension, and I don't shrug at all
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Can I snatch decently with low ceilings and improve from snatches and pulls only without any OHS work?

Something like this but I'm not sure how I'd lower the bar since I can only stand up just past parallel. I found this to explain what I mean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrSHE2ZuvG8

Also, can I develop strength for jerk with supramaximal weight basically like jerk dips only?
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Rogue EU vs Eleiko training bar?
I found an eleiko used like twice selling for £650 instead of £1k. Rogue EU bar is £695 iirc.
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>>39791295
Drop it when it hits the ceiling
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>>39790606
> could not make it into the gym yesterday. had a 22 day streak
feels pretty bad

question: i have the cash to get adidas powerlift 2, any thoughts on them? does anyone have a suggestion better than them? should i really get them a size bigger than my other shoes ?

thanks
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>>39792323
Adidas I've found are true to size/sized like a sport shoe unlike Chinese brands who are sized larger like dress shoe

Power perfect 2 is a better call if you can afford. Maybe sales be on after Xmas. Probably can get romaleos cheap soon when romaleo 3 released
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form check pls
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOcrH2mBUJh/?taken-by=ulfsarkkk
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>>39793026
dip a little bit steadier and shorter in the jerk
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What's the difference between Oly and other straps?

I have a pair of Nordic straps that seem fine? My grip is way above my strength level ATM anyways. Seems like snatches are the only ones that might use those special cotton Oly straps
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>>39790830
Flexibility, look at his body position at the bottom of the snatch squat.

Also, training to get used to the weight being above you helps quite a lot.
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>>39791318
i have the rogue eu bar and its sublime, really top notch
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>>39789558
>>39790830
>>39793429

It doesn't have anything to do with flexibility, it's personal body mechanics. Their limb lengths are such that this is the position that is the strongest and safest. It is absolutely peculiar to them and you SHOULD NOT TRY TO IMITATE THESE LIFTERS.
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>>39793026

Get a haircut.
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>>39793026

Knees too forward in the jerk. Push butt back in the dip (you should feel glutes and hammies stretching), keep chest/shoulders raised.

And keep your core tight. You're coming loose.
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>>39793026

You're also cutting your pull short, especially in the clean. Get tall, all the way on your toes, traps to ears, then use your arms. You could power 108 like that.

Anyone that tells you to 'get under it faster' is a moran that dkwttb. Speed under comes from active engagement of the traps and arms after full leg extension. This also gives your more control of the bar, and an active catch.
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Plump
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front squats 4x/week yes or no
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Does your vertical jump from jumping forward translate into your standing vertical jump? Why can people jump a lot higher when jumping forward (like with box jumps) than with just jumping in place?
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>>39795473
because the difference in the two jumping heights is your ability to bring your feet as far up as possible
when jumping forward you're able to essentially just jump onto the corner ledge and work your way up past that
you can't do that when just jumping in place
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>>39794804
>>39795473
stop save my webms and axe retarded newbie questions

u discust me
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>>39796121
>and axe retarded newbie questions
How to raise my vertical by 30 inches?
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>>39788978
Dude has the weirdest footwork. He transfers the weight to his toes 3 times during a lift.
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Why is it that a shoulder width grip is used for jerks and not something closer to a snatch grip? With a shorter range of motion to get the arms locked out fully, wouldn't that mean you'd have to exert less effort to complete the movement? Clearly, since nobody does it this way, there must be a reason. Can anyone tell me why?
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>>39798076
the rack position would be off and try holding bigger weights above your head with that wide grip
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>>39798076
Have you tried doing a front squat with a snatch grip?
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what's up with moradi's shoulders on snatch?
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Has someone got any oly program for taekwondo or martial arts in general? I'm kida short for my weight category and would like to add some speed by oly lifting.
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How hard is it to lift 140kg in the snatch for a decent lifter in the 94kg?
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>>39788957
Would it be easy for someone who focuses only on deadlifting, overhead pressing and high bar squatting to quickly get strong at the olympic lifts? Stats are 600/550/255 (Strict military).
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>>39794804
>>39789558

Why is red plates followed by a green plate so aesthetic?
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>>39799157
They are complementary colors.
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Who are the good guys in weightlifting?

Russians seem like bros despite being colossally popped

Chinese seem alien and unfriendly and it's hard to root for them, but ATG and HookGrip seem like huge fanboys and constantly uploads long videos of them.
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>>39799220
Brazilians
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>>39799153
Too many other factors to give you a straight answer.
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>>39798076
>>39798213
>>39798221
A lot of people do jerk with a wide grip. Look at African and south American lifters, especially the Africans they almost all use a very wide grip. There's one guy who powerjerks with his snatch grip,almost collar to collar
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>>39799682
because they have huge arms
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will xiaojun compete in the next olympics?
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Redpill me on Tian Tao

Is he elite or just a one hit wonder
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>>39799952
A lot of people were theorizing that 2016 would be his last olympics, but considering he set a snatch WR, I fail to see why it would be. Only time will tell if he can maintain or increase his strength.

>>39800072
2016 was his first olympics, so like I said earlier, only time will tell.
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>>39800288
yeah thought so too, since he has snatched as much as 180
as long as there aren't any injuries, why not?
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>>39799816
Partly. But apti has huge arms too and his jerk is narrow. Also lasha.

We discussed it at the gym before (one of the lifters is a Cameroon international who does the re rack on collarbones) and he seemed to think it was partly their 'lifting culture' they learn from a young age but also black dudes are built right to rest the barbell on collarbones while Europeans don't seem to have the physiology
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>>39800364
Really also depends if China have anyone better to send and if he stays in good books of China weightlifting. A lot can happen between now and then
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was doing texas method but started getting sick last thursday, so my 1x5 on friday was totally fucked. got way sicker by saturday, and yesterday i recovered. today i feel a lot better, but seeing as how it's monday, i have to do a 5x5, ideally based off my new 5rm - which i couldnt hit on friday because i was sapped.

should i just go in today and try to hit the 5x5 i did last monday?
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>>39800668
Nigger brains > nigger logic > nigger technique
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>>39799220
Shitskin detected. Go back to your favela.

Any third world white country like khaz, uzbek, greece, etc that gives athletes who have nothing a chance to work hard and compete would be considered the "good guy"

If you watch the hero's journey of Ilya, dimas, etc you'll see the all started from nothing and got to the top through hard work.
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>>39794804
bumping my question
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>>39802049
maybe if leg strength is an issue, and not technique. and even then, just program smartly - i.e. don't +90% every session
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>>39802049
Need more information you shitbird.

What's your routine look like?

Generally speaking, if you try to FS anything beyond 80% 4 times a week you will run out of gas and fatigue yourself.

You linked some chink on roids as ur pic, are you trying to follow his routine?

This is why /owg/ is literally retarded. You're all reddit cucks who think you need to copy the technique and routine of a 5'3 asian.

Not to mention the DYEL name fags that blog post.
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>>39802081
>you will run out of gas and fatigue yourself.

he fell for the meme

>calling other redditors
>afraid of going over 80% 4 times a week on a single lift

bet you think you need to have rest days between squats too. lmao get out weak fuck
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>>39802147
Front squat 4x a week is retarded tho unless you train full time desu
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>>39802497
if you aren't training full time what is the point
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>>39790606
https://coffeesgym.wordpress.com/2016/12/22/common-sense-approach-to-cj-cummings-training/
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>>39802497

We do 85%2RM x 2 pretty much every day at our gym. Coach is from Bulgaria and we're following the principle of constantly operating within your 3RM's

I'm a bit worried myself but so far I haven't had any issues with my front squats and fatigue.
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I've worked on my ankle flexibility for about two weeks.

Even got an extra cm on my adipowers

Been doing shoulder stretches and upper back foam rolling (my shoulders actually hurt more all the time now compared to before)

Still can't maintain a good and stable overhead position with the bar straight over me. I keep pushing my shoulders back because my chest leans too much forward at the bottom of the squat and I think I'm getting some impingement. As mentioned before I'm now having pain when I'm not really doing much more than moving my shoulder around freely. When I did strict and narrow overhead press I never felt anything.

Any advice? Do I simply need to get stronger in my upper back?
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>>39803008

Should add, the pain mainly comes when I'm raising my shoulders laterally or anteriorly. No problems with my rear delts and traps.
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got rogue fractional weights, eleiko knee sleeves and eleiko 5in belt, and rogue OLY straps for christmas


aaaawwww yeee
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Guys I'm fucking worried.

Girl at work has invited me back to her place sunday night after we get off work.

What the fuck do I do?
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>>39803210
Fuck her ass dry
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>>39803210
TELL HER WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON 9/11
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>>39803210
Tell her about the Jewish threat against a white America
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>>39803210
Put on those lifting movies from Netlfix then correct form constantly to show you're superior
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>>39803210

Watch Sword Art Online.
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>>39803008
are your glutes stablizing the weight on a straight spine?

if you're dedicated to holding the weight up with your shoulders you're gonna stall at like 135
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>>39804107
>SAO
nigger you what? even if this is a joke, dont even post this ironically
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>>39803018
>>39803008

Shoulders need to be raised. Think about shrugging them up, not 'pressing' them out and back. Traps should be engaged at all times. Likewise, you diaphragm/chest need to be raised. Core needs to be locked. You do not need radical shoulder flexibility to overhead squat. If you are having difficulty getting into the bottom position comfortably, you more than likely have a HIP inflexibility that is limiting your ROM.
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>>39799220
>Chinese seem alien and unfriendly
They're polite and friendly as fuck
Like all Asians
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>>39803210
Watch 2012 Olympics
77kg
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>>39805931
lol
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>>39802081
If you're a literal dyel, maybe you can't.
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Hey /owg/

Can anyone recommend a beginner OW + Aesthetics routine?

Most I have found online are crappy / low volume.

At this stage I'm still working on learning the techniques with the bar / low weight.
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>>39806447
Do literally any beginner 3-4 day a week program and alternate push/pull assistance bodybuilding. It's that simple.
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>>39804155
>>39805342

Okay thanks I'll keep this in mind.
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>>39799220
Weightlifting is not a fucking anime
There aren't good guys and bad guys
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>>39805342
Shrugging shoulders is a meme.
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>>39788957
UK weightlifting is a joke, delet this
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>>39802805
True, we all might as well quit if we have anything else in life to do
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>>39808123
You shut ur dirty mouth
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>>39803210
Help her prepare for the upcoming race war.
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>>39808777
those trips!
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>>39808777

I'm still worried.

She said she has "set aside the evening for us"
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>>39808002

And you're a weak little bitch.
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>>39788957

Can you even purchase Eleiko stuff in the USA ?

that was an insane snatch. Euros are so easy to bend over.

>I said it.
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>>39809409
That's not USA ya mug
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Can tight hips and lack of mobility in the hips and hamstrings limit ankle flexibility?

Like the aforementioned joints are "pulling" the shin and ankle back?
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>>39803210
>>39808957
don't worry bro, jus b urself, and the wheels will be set in motion
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>>39809409
Sonny Webster is from England you dip. And yes, Eleiko is widely available in the US, probably the most popular provider of bumpers and bars for competitions. You dip.
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Give it to me straight doc. What are my chances of making it on Team GB in 10 years if I'm currently 18, 5'9'', 170lbs, can do 1/2/3/4, above average genetics
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>>39803210
cancel it that day. it will make her want to suck you off
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>>39811413
If you give your life to it and are lucky with injury yes you could make it, your best bet is just to roid for the next few years and then start competing when you're already the best in the country, though no one will like you, or you can spend the next ten years grinding as a natty and get to the same level as everyone else in bwl, and hopefuly make a b/c session at euros/worlds

>above average genetics
this is almost certainly not true, we already have people younger and stronger than you and we dont have anyone especially talented
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>>39794804
Watching Lu lift always makes the think he could pack on 10kg to his clean and jerk easy if he just switched to a split jerk. He fucking snatches more than most guys in the 85kg.
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>>39811413
Low. There are kids who are 15 who outlift you already and have already started lifting that will.never make team gb
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>>39805931
>like all asians
no. The lifters do seem nice from what I have seen from them though.
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210kg front squat
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOis-FJDRj8PXrp5Zt3D67WbVnsulBHKfFkayc0/
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>>39812197
Because you, like many other owg posters, would know better than the chinese team's olympic coaches
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Looking to buy first set of wl shoes, looking at romaleos due to them being wider but any recomendations?
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>>39813055
do you feel in charge?
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>>39813055
you'll a big guy
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>>39812047
Think I'd rather grind it out and keep making PRs and see what happens, I'll be strong and aesthetic as a result either way.

Couldn't they easily detect i'm on roids though? not that i'd take them.

>>39812747
How many of those kids keep up the training for the years to come though?

Not enough if we've produced 0 (Zero) middle weight - light heavyweight medalists, let alone 0 (Zero) Gold medalist in all weight classes.
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>>39813359

good choice, should be fine
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>>39797340
kek
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>>39807981
Underrated
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>>39813454
>How many of those kids keep up the training for the years to come though?

You have a national team. Obviously some of 'those kids' kept up their training. The team doesn't have any metals because they aren't very good, relative to other countries.

The point is you probably won't even be as good as the next crop of mediocre lifters to make the national team.
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>>39815263
A number of people who have made it onto team USA started training in their late teens/early 20s. If OP has a solid athletic background and trains full time, they might have a shot, especially in a country like GB.
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>>39815666
Wouldn't really happen here. The current squad is fairly well established and would take someone very special to break it without starting early, and there is a good crop of youngsters coming through at the moment

Comparing USA to GB doesn't work either. We don't have a foundation of strength training like a lot in USA do (lots of ex wrestlers and American football players in USA squad) there's also no funding for male lifting in GB, no even stipends which all the USA squad members get

Not saying this lad can't do it, but it is unlikely. He needs to start ASAP and having 1/2/3/4 isn't even impressive anyway so that's irrelevant.
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>>39811413
Fuck knows mate but desu i think your lifts and age is pretty impressive. Get to a WLing club asap and go from there. You never know. Good luck!
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>>39813055
Nice lift mate. How tall are you?
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is teen toe natty?
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>>39811413
im gonna get on team gb not you im 18 5'8, 151lbs can do 1pl8 ohp and 3pl8 squat
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