/OWG/ - Olympic Weightlifting General

How can I be better and transitioning from first pull to full extension?

My coach keeps telling me to be fully locked out at the knees before I begin extending my ankles and pulling with my arms. But it's hard to figure out when and I keep missing the point and extending my ankles why knees are still unlocked.

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>>39767041
Adequate triple extension happens all in one motion. Ankles, knees, and hips in unison.
You won't generate adequate force by locking your knees.

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>>39767041

>>39767041
> extending my ankles when knees are still unlocked.

I should add that this makes my hips go way too much forward. I'm only practicing with the five kilo bar so I kind of feel like it's hard to properly do the lift since there's such little weight.

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>>39767669
she's adorable

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>>39768006

What should I look for in a olympic weight lifting gym?

And by that I mean how do I join a gym that won't have me do a million reps of shit and teach me absolutely nothing

>>39768116
http://www.teamusa.org/usa-weightlifting/clubs-lwc/find-a-club

Start here (if you're in US), anon. Inquire about open gym hours, be adamant about wanting to learn weightlifting, and not a part of crossfit etc.

>>39768006
:3

>>39768176
I already checked that. Literally the only gyms that are near me are an hour away, located in the hippiest neighborhood in my state, and crossfit.

It's not like I don't have access to a gym with barbells. But I was more looking for someone to coach me on form. But no gym for crossfit.

I might be able to find a coach on craigslist that I can send videos to or something.

difference between powerlift 3 and 2?
are they a lot worse than adipowers?

>>39768006
But that form isn't

>>39768220
Powerlift 3's are just different in aesthetics. It's the same shoe. They're both shit just get adipowers. I got them for $100 on black friday. Wait for another deal if the price has gone up.

>>39767018
What is it with the Chinese and weightlifting?

Not that it's not impressive - it is. But why?

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Honestly never done an oly lift ever, grew up doing football/wrestling/mma and all ive ever grown up with is people doing powerlifting style strength training which i am quite good at.
Oly lifts look very functional and look like they would hold a great place in becoming an overall stronger and better athlete.
Any specific route i should take for introducing them in my routine?

>>39768636
I live in northern yurop
everything up here is expensive
100€ is already a lot for shoes, and adipowers are 200€

are the powerlifts really that crap?

Hey owg what is your take on the Reebok lifters?
Asking cause I can't wear Adidas/Nike on account of my feet being hobbit-tier wide, but Reebok fits OK

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>>39768738
No, elite athletes still use them.
David Bedzhanyan for instance.

>>39768725
Quad, a rugby player trip from a few years ago adovacted a push/pull/speed or horizontal/vertical/speed split.

Speed day would be either snatch or c&j specific. I can't remember exactly but it was something like;

- warm up
- learning exercises (like a muscle snatch)
-work up to a heavy single on either snatch or c&j then back off for a few sets
- lift assistance like pulls
- then medball stuff or whatever

Again this is based on my memory so.

I'd like to hear other ideas too

>>39768787
are the heels higher on adipowers?

>>39768615
guarantee it's better than yours

>>39768831
Google is your friend.

http://www.roguefitness.com/adidas-powerlift-2-dark-grey-solar-yellow-core-black
.6" heel

http://www.roguefitness.com/adidas-adipower-weightlifting-shoes-black-scarlet-gray-metallic
.75" heel

>>39768888
thanks, so it isn't too much of a difference

>>39768787

Those aren't Powerlifts, those are the PPIIs.

>>39769270
and how do they differ from pls and adipowers?

>>39768787
They are pp2 dude get with the program u haven't been away that long

>>39769290
Pp2 is a proper entry level weightlifting shoe. .75 heel that is solid

Powerlift is like .66 and has a heel that's more compressible

You still see top level lifters using both, especially women

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>>39768220
>>39768738
>>39768787
>>39768776
>>39768831
>>39768888
>>39768888
>>39768900
>>39769270
>>39769290
All inferior brand... Nike much superior.

Try blue Nike...

>>39769475
so if I can get pp and pl at the same price, I should go for pps?

>>39769539
I would go for pp2 over pl 100% bro

>>39769561
thanks

>>39768615
SHe snatches more then ur bitch ass 100% guaranteed

>>39768615
Bet u can't explain why tho

Any thoughts on Rogues new russian bar? Are the grooved sleeves just a meme, or are they actually better?

>>39768738
They're better than nothing but they're heel height and heel material aren't adequate. You won't know the difference if you buy them but if you try adipowers you'll never go back.

(I thought I responded desu)

>>39768725
Read the pastebin fagoot

>>39770466
they help the collars stay in place that's all they're for

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>>39768819
:)

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>>39769475
>>39769270

My bad lads.

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Poor Alex's record has been smashed by 6kg by a 16 year old kid. Guess those Iranian steroids don't help you overcome genetics.

>>39770837

Good lad.

>>39771535
I love this little nigga.

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Form check

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqa8cN5uM-A

Everything in the description.
Need tips. Just began Olympic weightlifting.

>>39772351
>wearing socks in carpet
>not wearing shoes
>iron plates

holy shit anon, I'm impressed you're keeping balance on carpet wearing only socks

Hang cleans look alright for what you're working with anyways

>>39769523

delete this immediatley

>>39772582
115 lbs is not a lot by any means.
That's how I can keep my balance.

>>39772613
This

>>39772351
You're not extending fully, which is causing you to jump forwards. Give this article a read-

http://www.catalystathletics.com/article/1902/Jumping-Forward-in-the-Snatch-or-Clean-Error-Correction/

>>39773001
Thanks

>can snatch with no pain
>hitting triples at 80 no trouble
>still can't clean 50 without hip joint pain

fuggg :'DDDD

>>39773147

Caladan, I have a hip impingement and I find that if I really stretch my butt back in the catch I circumvent a great deal of discomfort.

>>39772001
I swear to god i've seen this exact same post like 2 months ago.

>>39774141

in the catch of the clean? Like increase torso angle?

>>39774299
Pretty sure I made it considering I made the webm, but I don't think I made any jokes about Iranian steroids

Currently on Texas Method for strength training at the moment. Not training for any sport in particular, just want to be strong.
I want to try having a go at the oly lifts because they're fun as fuck but my question is how can I incorporate them into the program and still progress.

I messed around with snatch and c&j about 6 months ago, adding each lift to the end of my two of my training days. (one day a week I'd do c&j, another I'd do snatch) I was struggling to improve the lifts even at babby weight and put it down to not actually doing the lifts enough to see an improvement.

How can I incorporate the olympic lifts into a texas method style routine whilst including enough volume to actually improve on them?

>>39774930
One of the reasons I'm looking at having another go at the oly lifts is because my gym recently got bumper plates so I'd be able to pull from the platform. (when I was doing the lifts 6 months ago it was only hang variations because I couldn't pull from the right height on the floor)

>>39774930
Just do a program like Dan John's beginner program or Lascek's Transition to Weightlifting, they have plenty of squatting volume attached to them.

Jesus fuck
Is every gym like this so fucking expensive?
Seems like 1500 a year is the absolute minimum.

>>39772351
Is that a curl bar?

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>>39768176
>nj weightlifting

does this sound like a good gym?

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Anyone tried these?

>>39775062
Lewd

>>39775124
Those just look like a retarded knockoff of powerlifts

>>39775139

I thought knockoffs of pp2 but ye

>>39775139
Yeah but they cost like half, 40gbp.

>>39775139
power perfect*

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>>39768014
>tfw no pouting bad jerk gf

Only thing important with the shoes is if the height of the heel fits your mobility and if they have a steady base which all models do. Get good at lifting instead of looking like a DYEL internet guru in the gym with your romaleous and leistungs.

when is too late to get into competitive lifting?I'm 22 Only been lifting 12 months but already on 3-plate no drugs. Lift 5 times a week and it's my favourite hobby. My dream now is to compete in olympics for my tiny country, don't care if I don't do well just want to represent country.


is it too late or could I spend 12 months roiding and catch up doing 7 days per week? Is roiding fair game? I assume so but if not I'll try natty.

>>39775124
>>39769523


>not lifting barefoot
unless you're actually in competition this is retarded

>>39775326
how can you catch up with people who are already roiding?

>>39775452
so really I can't compete if I didn't start at 18? fuck it all feels like it's going so well though, but I still don't understand plateaus and whether or not this is realistic.

My country didn't put forward any lifters in Rio though so there might still be a chance, r-right?

>>39775452
>if I didn't start at 18?
AHAHAHA
Read up on any weightlifter who ever broke any olympic or world records. They all started lifting in their early teens.

Depending on where you live you might be able to succesfully compete on a national level. where I live for example the best snatch and c&j in the 85kg division this year was 120kg and 142kg, 262kg total.

>>39775510
meant for >>39775462

>>39775462
the fact your country didnt put any lifters forward means your gonna have a harder time

>>39775510
snatch is low but that c&j is really really low

>>39775462
Unless your country is small enough to get free qualification like places like Kosovo then you'll still have to make some sort of qualifying standard

What are your current numbers

>>39775593
Well, it's really not a sport of interest in my country. There are maybe 10-15 oly lifting gyms in the whole country and there are no good coaches. I'd have to drive almost an hour to get to one, so I'm just working out in a close by crossfit gym. It's really dissapointing how much more popular crossfit is than oly lifting here. I guess that's what marketing does for you.

>>39775596
squat 160kg, deadlift 170kg, bench press 80kg

those are what I do as normal reps not personal records

I know it's nothing special but I feel good about what I've accomplished this year and figure I could probably get amazing results by end of 2017 if I do a few 2 month test cycles.

>>39775683
how much dyou fucking sn and cj?

>>39775727
I haven't even started, don't have the equipment for it and there are no powerlifting gyms here

>>39775736
you will never go to the olympics

>>39775756
and neither will you with an attitude like that

>>39767018
that speed and form on the webm are so fucking sick

>>39774901

I don't know what you mean, but you'll close the hip angle a bit. Just think 'stretch butt back'. Try it with powers first. If your knees are coming forward you're not doing it right.

Does anyone have the slow motion gif/webm of the weightlifter dropping his C&J and when the weight hits the floor, the force shakes the entire room.

>>39777598
it's just the camera shaking you fuck idiot

>>39777622
You've clearly never seen the gif I'm talking about, but I appreciate your overly aggressive behavior. You see, in the video I'm referencing, the weight slamming into the ground sends the lifting a inch or so into the air. It's pretty neat.

>>39777706
i've seent it because i made it u fuck idiot, u dont even know who u talking 2

>>39777783
No, YOU don't know who you're talking to. Do you even know who my father is?

>>39775052
It is a 25 lb bar. So probably.
It was cheap and it could hold weights and got it when i was 16

>>39773147
have you ever had any trouble with wrists? I am currently having a fuck of a time with my right wrist. I actually haven't done any classic lifts in about a month. It doesn't feel urgently serious, it's just one of those injuries where I felt if I kept using it it would become a chronic ailment. I feel it in the ball joint of my right wrist, on the left side, if that makes sense

bumpo

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>>39767018
Hi /OWG/, I started oly weightlifting 2 months ago and I have made 0 progress on my snatch even though my cleans, squats, deadlifts, and presses improved.
I cant get under the bar properly so I basically end up in a power clean position with my feet extremely wide apart.
What can I do to correct this?
I also lose control of my bar half the times during the 3rd pull and it falls either forward or back (my Weightlifting shoes don't stop this problem). What can I do to improve my balance? Thanks

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>tfw no Irish legume eating gainz

>>39780597
you realize that potatoes are legumes, correct?

the eternal mick strikes again

>>39780677

>you realize that potatoes are legumes, correct?

lol no. Potatoes are a nightshade, they're an entirely different family of plant.

>>39780734
It never shocks me to learn that a colleague of mine has been misinformed about the true classification of the potato. The potato is in fact a legume. A legume is plant that is able to fix nitrogen from the air and put it into the soil. A colleague of mine informed me that a potato is a plant that can do this. thus, it is classified as a legume, not as a vegetable.

>>39780781

'No'. A legume is any plant under the family classification Fabacaea. Potatoes are not classed under Fabacaea. Therefore, potatoes are not legumes.

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>>39775237
Butthurt poor fag detected.

>>39775510
This. Even 18 is too late.

>>39777783
Oh my edge.

>>39778152

I've been there. You can either take 6 months off and let it heal fully, or wrap the FUCK out of it when you lift. I'm talking so tight you're cutting off circulation, which will mask the pain and prevent it from getting that much worse.

I wrapped mine up for 6 months, seemed to help but really the only cure is time off. Simple as that.

>>39782619
fuuuuck

I really hate taking time off, but I don't want to make this much worse. In the mean time, I'm assuming you still front/back squatted?

>>39778152

fucked up my wrist bailing a front squat stupidly, but it wasn't a bad injury and I was ok a month later... wrapping it or rest as anon said is good, but a massage for the forearm also helps

>>39782619

Yeah, well the only lift I had wrist pain on was snatching and over head squatting. Everything else was fine. Even when I took time off, you don't really lose all that much strength and you'd be surprised how quickly you regain it.

>>39782719

Meant to quote >>39782676

>>39782719
weird, the lift that really fucks me up is CnJ. Snatching isn't so bad, but I think I would take a break from snatching too

>>39775683
>>39775771
I don't wanna be a dick but even with test you probably won't have anything close to good enough in 1 year

We have an incredibly talented kid at our club who's put nearly 80kg on his total in a year, qualified for senior nationals as a junior which is great, but he's still a long way off winning it let alone making a national team

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I really need to make some webms to keep bumping this shit

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All he needs to do is put 20kgs on his snatch and he might medal at worlds soon.

>>39783301
Is it his leverages, or his form that makes him lift so ugly? Or is it a combination of both?

>>39783322

his start position in the snatch is a bit unorthodox