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How do I build muscle with low testosterone?

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Hey fitizens.

So I have ultra low levels if testosterone. The reason why is I only have 1 testicle, and it turns out it's basically full of scar tissue from when I lost my other testicle in 9th grade.

Now I'm 22 and I told my doctor I don't get morning wood, so she ran a blood test and I cam back with 88ng/dl on a 300-1000 range. My LH and FSH were ultra high though, like 3x the top of rang, which my doctor said is strange because my test is so low. She said the low test was causing the lack of morning wood and isn't a serious issue. I asked her about TRT and she said absolutely not because its a controlled anabolic steroid and that my body is trying to make more testosterone with my high LH and FSH, and she offered me a prescription for viagra instead.

Anyway, so I got low test, but seriously want to build some muscle anyway.

I'm also a 6'6" turbo lanklet. Honestly I look like a giant girl, wide hips, hardly any facial hair etc... and it sucks ass.

So, what kinds of foods would help a guy who actually has low testosterone get his numbers up?

Also should I focus more on upper body being I already have wide hips and need more upper body strength?
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>>39740518
If you don't need test for height growth how the fuck does it fucking happen. Yes I know hgh but doesn't having this low test weakens your bones or fucking something.
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>>39740518
Your doctor is a moron. Go and see other doctors until you find one with a bit of sense, or better yet see a specialist endocrinologist.
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>>39740533

No idea man, I'm a head taller than my Dad and brothers and my mom is short. I'm the one with the 1 ball that doesn't even work and I'm tall as hell. Genetics are a dick.
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Basically what the others said. You have a fucking hormone imbalance. You need to take care of it. Nothing on gods green earth except for actual TRT will compensate for the loss of a testicle.
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>>39740533
Wow you're a fucking idiot. How is the density of your bones relevant to the length of them? Btw, I don't think you have low testosterone, seeing how dense you are.
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Go to another doctor
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>>39740518
T. Medfag here, your Doctor is a moron

FSH and LH stimulate test production. Your body recognises it has low test, and tries to kick the testes into gear by producing more and more and more FSH/LH to increase test production to overcome the balance.

But your single damaged testicle is functionally abnormal. Despite the enormous amounts of FSH/LH screaming "MAKE MORE TEST", it's either not listening, or is physically incapable of meeting demand.

You have an enormous hormone imbalance. Show that test result to an any sensible endocrinologist and they'll sort you out. Get a second, third, fourth opinion OP.
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>>39740533

The release of Testosterone/estrogen during puberty triggers bones to start fusing and end their growth. It's why women are shorter than men, they start puberty earlier, and the estrogen triggers growth plates to fuse at a younger age. It's why short women can still have tall men, because their genes may say "tall" but if early release of estrogen happens, their plates fuse earlier.

I think estrogen triggers bone plates to fuse faster than testosterone does.

>>39740556

You might have other issues. Marfan's syndrome is one you sound like you might have, in which case your body is stressed, and thus not producing the right hormones.
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>>39740691
Other medfag here for second opinion.
Fully agree with medfag 1, your doctor's retarded.
>my body is trying to make more testosterone with my high LH and FSH
And failing hard at doing so, which is exactly WHY you need TRT.
>she said absolutely not because its a controlled anabolic steroid
That's the real reason you're not getting TRT, she's just scared of fucking up a perscription, probably because she's inexperienced.

Please OP get a second opinion, your doctor's fucking stupid.
Your life will be so much better with normal-high T.
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>>39740518
How do grills build muscle with no T?
Exactly.
Test is a meme
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>>39740764
Girls absolutely have T, just not as much.
Why do you think girls build LESS muscles?
Because they have isgnificantly LESS T.
Dumbass.
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>>39740764
they dont idiot, there's a reason why the only girls that even near respectable weights on the big four are the ones on roids
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>>39740764
Well for one, they pretty much don't build muscle Tbh
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>>39740774
She has more muscle mass than the entire /fit/ combined
Test is a meme, stop being autistic.
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>>39740788
Really weak bait after getting btfo, stay classy.r
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>>39740774
>>39740779
>taking >>39740764 seriously
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Story how you lost your testicle in 9th grade?
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>>39740788
damn... guess you're right...
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>>39740788
>>39740801
>samefagging and backpedalling after you find out you're retarded
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>>39740788
Would be so weird to fuck that bitch.
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>>39740814
>be eating her out
>she orgasms and tightens her leg muscles
>your head pops like a water melon
no thanks
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>>39740518
Medfag here, MD in few months.

Get a second opinion. See a male physician. A total test of 88 at 22 y/o is ridiculous. Don't let some know-nothing family med chick ruin your youth because she's frightened by scary male hormones.
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>>39740825
>eating a woman out
Found the faggot
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>>39740812
>accusing people of samefagging on an anonymous samefagging discussion board
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>>39740691

You're kinda making me want to go back and punch her in the face... but yeah that wouldn't help get a referral
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>>39740736
>he's tall so he must have the marfan!
nope, i'm not dr house but i think that having only one test that is not even working full time would be the more likely cause of his low test, since an average fititzen has two of them a still has to take large amounts of test to get any """""natty""""" gains
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>>39740845
I'm not a faggot, i a beta cuck (it's my fetish) you retard.
If i was a faggot i would wanted to suck dick instead. And the only dick i would like to suck is BBC, which as we all know is completely heterosexual and no homo at all.
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>>39740736
There's literally nothing in his history that suggests he has Marfan's except "i'm tall". Marfan's is like 1 in 10,000. Stop putting this shit in his head.
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>>39740850
>samefagging, backpedalling and editing an image with paint after finding out you're retarded
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>>39740880
being a cuck is just being a proxy faggot Tbh
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>>39740894
How is wanting to eat some fresh black bull's load out of your wife's wet pussy faggoty in the slightest?
It's like the two most hetero things in existence combined: pussies and bbcs
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>>39740808

Well...

So, it was after school and some of us were still outside waiting to get picked up. My friend and I were trying to light our farts on fire. I laid down on my back with my legs open and a lighter.

One of the girls said "aren't u worried ur gonna burn ur junk?" And I'm like "fuck no I got balls of steel".

Then my friend says some shit, and I look at him to say something, and when I wasn't watching the girl fucking stomped on my crotch as hard as she could.

I actually almost died because the pain was so bad I went into shock and apparently barfed and choked on my own vommit while I was out.

One of them had completely popped, all the innards had come out of the cartilage (whatever its called) nut shell, the other like a quarter of the stuff had come out, but the docs at the hospital were able to stich it back up.

I had a prescription for some awesome pain killers though, so I spent the following month pretty fucking happy.
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>>39740979
Jesus and what did you do about the chick, hope you beat her into fucking pulp later or at least sued the fuck out of her
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>>39740979
Popped? I smell a bullshit made up story.
My fetish happens to be ball abuse and i watched countless videos where guys have their balls stomped to shit by girls in heels, or even have their balls crushed with a hammer and never once any of those balls popped. (Only once i saw a video where one got punctured but that was because it got stomped on by that needle part of a heel so that doesn't count as crushing)
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>>39740890
>accusing me of samefagging and editing the image to deflect the attention off yourself
>because if people dug a little deeper, they would find it was you samefagging all along
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>>39740995

My parents sued her parents and the school.

They didn't get rich though and they wasted it all fighting in divorce court later anyway.

Kinda pissed I didn't get any money because it was my fucking ball not theirs.

Anyway, the girl got suspended for like a week. She wasn't really all that apologetic either. Was like "really sorry about your balls anon, I didn't really think you'd get hurt so bad, I was really worried when you passed out".

She was probably more worried about getting in trouble.

I really did want to beat the shit out of her, but never really did. I was worried about all sorts of stuff and being the kid with one ball who beats up girls isn't really a good reputation to have.
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>>39741043
Do you still produce viable sperm? Have you had an analysis done?
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>>39741007
http://www.vice.com/read/what-exactly-happens-when-you-pop-a-testicle-and-how-to-fix-it-173

Sorry bro, your fetish porn is about as real as the girls tits and orgasms.

Your balls are not indestructible. Testicular rupture is a well knowns sports injury.

Have you ever had someone else hit your balls with a hammer and actually try to break them? Well why not?
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>>39741051

Nah never checked
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>>39741043
Do you hate jews now?
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>>39741080

Uh what? Not all lawyers are Joos dude.
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>>39740852
Aye it wouldn't. But this is basic stuff for a doctor. Hell, I remember getting "What does it mean if a hormone is low but it's precursor or stimulant is fucking skyrocketing" questions in my 2nd year exams, and as early as 1st year medical school. Get as many second opinions as you can bud, cause this is so clearly a problem.
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>>39740518
Paul's friend? Are you the guy that tried to jump over the fence?
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>>39741133
not op, but are there any normal foods that increase T? I don't want to take any nasty roids
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>>39740788
>really makes you think
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>>39741156
No. There are no natty ways to increase your testosterone to a meaningful degree.
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>>39741156
Yes, but not nearly enough to overcome any deficit that OP and the like are suffering from.

Saturated fats are necessary for optimal test production, and I believe Vit D3 has a contribution too.

Beyond that, not much buddy. Make sure you sleep well, don't get fat (fat people produce an enzyme called aromatase that converts test to oestrogen), and work out. That's really it beyond needles.
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>>39741169
Fuck. Time to stop fapping. God, i love skinning the lizard, but I need to save up my T for them gains
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>>39741173
>that converts test to oestrogen
Wait, will that stop hair loss?
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>>39741189
I confess I don't know enough about hair-loss to answer that buddy, but I suspect it might.

But you don't want to lose test. A fatty with locks of hair won't look as good as a bald, jacked bastard
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>>39740518
Get on roids OP. If >>39740691 is right then you should at least get medical grade TRT to put you to normal levels. If Your docs wont perscribe you any get some yourself through /fraud/.
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>>39741181
Jacking off is not the reason your strength and physique aren't good. Jack off if you want. Bust your ass in the gym more and fix your diet. No fap is a meme.
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>>39741220
Yeeeeaaaaah, have fun injecting yourself with bleach from them test bottles which that chinaman sent you for just $99.99 with free shipping
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geRbsDTs3XU&t=326s
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>>39741237

>not trusting based pharmacom
>not having 100% accurate gear made from a proper lab and not some makeshift bathroom

stay dyel, fatty.
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>>39741258
>proper lab
>google some pictures of scientists in white coats
>put pictures on my website and and shit
>brainlets now think they are getting high quality product straight from a lab
>they have no idea i'm preparing it in my old toilet bowl in the garden next to my septic tank
half of the fit probably have poop particles circulating through their blood stream from their ""lab"" gear
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>>39741043
she ruined your life and this other female doctor is literally trying to keep it ruined

one of those times i wish i was full homo
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>>39741283
you obviously dont know that people test quality of most vendors at some point in time. making shitty test means no long term business and some huge guys who want you dead
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>>39740518
sorry about your balls dude

My friend lost one of his balls because of cancer, never really asked about his test but it crushed his manhood pretty bad.

I guess you should not believe all the snake oil and broscience. Things like eat bacon and full body exercises. But it can't really hurt you all that much so I would try it.
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>>39740518

If your T level in the morning without eating a meal and you are not currently on a major cut with serious caloric deficit.

Get some of your sperm put on ice if you are viable.

Find a new doctor.
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>>39740764

Girls do have T they just have much less.

Ever notice how girls in general have less muscle. Ya they have less T.
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>>39741437
well, its been proven that if you lose one nut, the other will be able to produce as much test as u had before losing hte nut. if ur one nut is injured though then ur fucked
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>>39740788

She is also on huge amounts of T and whatever else she can pump into here muscles.
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>>39740518
Take LGD, bring your test to incredibly low levels. Go to doctor, get TRT. Free roids. You're welcome
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>>39740979
Watch the movie Bullhead (2011). It's in Dutch but I promise you won't regret it.
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>>39741476
if she was juicing her tummy would be a ball and not a plank
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>>39741481

Uh... his levels already ARE ultra low. His doctor is basically saying he should just go be himself.
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>>39741189
the only way to stop hair loss is by inhibiting DHT. And even then, its really just whether or not your hair follicles are sensitive to it or not. The thing is though, I personally would never inhibit DHT production until I'm at least 25 since a man's body is still developing. DHT is responsible for secondary sexual characteristics such as facial hair growth, voice deepening, etc.
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>>39740518
>>39740979

Damn Brah, girls can be fucking evil. Get a second opinion, and don't fucking see an endocrinologist.

Instead get a referral to a MALE Urologist.

By now, with divorced parents, a girl who practically castrated you, and a female doctor who isn't willing to prescribe you testosterone, you would be completely justified in never trusting women. They don't have real empathy for men. They pretend to in order to get through life and extract resources from men.

The real reason this bitch doesn't want to help is that she has to sign some paper work. Testosterone is a controlled substance, NOT one that is outright banned all together.

This is bordering on medical malpractice.

Urologist. One with a dick.

Good chance you will be on 100mg weekly injectable testosterone cypionate for the rest of your life. Actually, they might even give you a higher dose because you're 6'6".

Your low T is WHY you are so tall. Eunuchs often reach taller heights, but have thin feminine frames.

The good news is that TRT is more anabolic than being truly natty. This is because your levels will be upper normal range all the time, where true natties levels go up and down regularly.

This has actually been studied. Men given TRT doses, as low as 125mg weekly, who already were through their newb gains, guys who used to lift weights, and then quit lifting, CONTINUED to gain muscle, 7 pounds on average while sedentary, just from TRT doses alone. You could literally gain more muscle on TRT sitting on the couch than natty could in their first two years lifting.

Obviously you should still lift, and the result will be that much better, but the point is how POWERFUL TRT is.

This will dramatically change your life for the better.

You go from being a feminized 6'6" gangly bitch to a jacked and muscular 6'6" who has a high sex drive. If your facial features are halfways decent you can possibly fuck a lot of women, and if you're sterile a lot less worries.
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>>39741491

Anabolic Androgenic Steroids are not what causes the gorilla belly look.

That's from messing with high doses of GH for extended periods of time and combined with insulin.

Look at 1970's and 80's bodybuilders. They used tons of roids and still had tight waists.
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>>39741007

Think its possible some of the shit you see in porn might not be entirely real?

http://www.sportsmed.theclinics.com/article/S0278-5919(12)00112-3/abstract

Ruptures can absolutely happen.

Also, strange as it sounds, the guys who are naked you see getting their balls stepped on and kicked in porn are actually safer than the guy wearing jeans and underwear. When they are naked they can move around freely, so if kicked some of the motion is more just moving them around. Yeah, probably painful, but less likely to rupture. When a girl steps on one with her heel, it probably gets close to rupturing, but it is flexible, and as one part of the tunic presses down, the testicle will just roll out of the way at the last second.
If a guy has his jeans and undies on, his balls are less free to move, and this isn't slow compression like a girl slowly stepping her weight onto it. She stomped on him. World of difference. The force is far greater than her bodyweight alone, and his nuggets aren't able to roll out of the way. What you are seeing in porn, like most porn, is fake and exaggerated. If ruptures were not possible then you wouldn't read about athletes having this injury nor would they where a cup. This is exactly why you wear a cup.
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>>39740979
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>>39741156
>nasty roids
Bro it's fucking testosterone. Your body makes it naturally so who gives a shit if you inject some to get to normal levels lol
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>>39741335
>no long term illegal drug trade
Yeah and that's how they stay out of jail
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>>39741891

There are guys who have been in business since the 1990's, plenty still doing fine making decent product.

He could go to most gyms, and eventually befriend a few bodybuilders.

In fact a LOT of typical bodybuilders, guys obviously juiced up, regularly train people, and if he purchased a few training sessions and told the bodybuilder about his "problem" there is a good chance they would either offer to hook him up with a good source, OR even recommend him a good local doctor who regularly prescribes testosterone.

Testosterone isn't that often faked in UGL's as it is the cheapest of all injectable steroids.

Sure there are some bogus or under dosed products out there, but its not how some of the fucking natty nazis suggest.

Especailly when the guys who hook you are monstrously huge, clearly use the same batches themselves. Lots of bodybuilders even home brew, and as a general rule you can be pretty sure he injects the stuff he makes himself. Bodybuilding is sort of a cult, most guys trying to make decent product.

The general rule is, the more rare and expensive a compound, the more likely to be under dosed, fake, or swapped with a cheaper alternative, which most guys wouldn't know the difference.

Most of the Anavar guys buy is actually Winny. Primobolan is underdosed Tren.

Common stuff that is least likely to be fake in order:

Winny - cheapest shit there is, strong effects, retarded to fake it.

Dbol - also dirt cheap.

Testosterone - Cheap and obviously you feel effects, so its usually real, and there is little need to under dose or stretch test, due to the low cost of raw materials. Enanthate, Prop, Cyp, Suspention etc... if they say it more than 250mg per ML then it's bogus.

EQ - cheap as fuck, not as cheap as test, but rarely faked as it's common, not very useful IMHO.

Deca- Nandrolone - again usually real, more expensive than Test or EQ

Tren - Ace is good, avoid Enanthate which is usually just overpriced subbed test
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>>39740518
my test is too high and i'm skinnyfat

don't fall for the test meme

calculate your tdee
lift big
enjoy gains
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>>39740736
>>39740738

Third, studying Endo. You have one nut that can't keep up with demand, evidenced by your high LH and FSH. Any endocrinologist could see that so go to one with your test results and get on the test for results.
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>>39740518
>>39740979
>>39741043
yryl
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>>39740518

tell him you identify as woman.
Get estrogen/test blockers
Dump them.
Get back to the doctor. Tell him you identify now as a man.
Get testosterone.
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>>39740518
>How do I build muscle with low testosterone?
Eat more protein/meat, sleep more, work out harder/more than your already doing, have more sex and fap more to increase test naturally
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation%23General_benefits&ved=0ahUKEwjNr4Tr-ufQAhVK7yYKHdJHDMIQygQIHzAA&usg=AFQjCNEu1jw0iEzDr0quc5W8qzk4mzsNrw
>http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>http://answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>https://www.healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation
>>39741070
>never checked
Check
>>39741156
>but are there any normal foods that increase T?
>http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/85/1/293.full
>https://www.anabolicmen.com/fats-and-testosterone/
>>39741169
>No.There are no natty ways to increase your testosterone to a meaningful degree.
You're baiting right?
>>39741181
>Fuck.Time to stop fapping.
There's no reason to stop fapping.
>but I need to save up my T for them gains
Masturbation does not decrease testosterone and nofap test increasing claims are false. A meme won't help you.
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