Im going on vacation october 24th. Can i be ripped by then? 6'1

>>39708020
Yes. Pick a minimalist training program. Cut hard from january until april, trying for 1-3lbs/week weightloss, between a consistent daily deficit and lots of cardio.

You might get a little stronger during this time, but you wont build muscle.

From April to September, lean bulk with a 2-300 calorie daily surplus. You want to aim for about 1/2lb oer week weight gain. You can do a bit more training vilume this way. Pick a sensible routine and follow it, adding weight as frequently as you can, even if its just 2.5lb a week.

From September until a week before you leave, run a 500cal/day deficit and aim to lose 1lb/week.

Boom, dont even need steroids.

>>39708077
Wouldnt steroids give me much better results?

>>39708020
A whole year to get from 25% bf to like 12% is not a yuge deal at all. Break it down with a bit of math:

25% at 195 lb = 48 lb of fat

12% bodyfat requires you to lose around 28 lb of fat.

around 11 months to lose 28 lb of fat, that's 2.5 pounds a month, only 0.6 pounds a week. Easy. Also don't do gear

>>39708448
Id be a skelly at that weight. Gear would give me some tone

>>39708020
One gallon of whole milk is just as good as anabolic steroids
Don't underestimate the magic of whole milk!

>>39708020
I was about that weight this year but had previously lifted so wasn't complete skelly when I cut.

Cut 2lbs a week (so 18 weeks) to 160 and then bulk. Don't fucking roid; that's retarded. You can gain ~2lbs of muscle a month for your first year if you're natty.

>>39708929
A day that is

>>39708950
So couldnt i gain 3lbs a month on a little gear?

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>>39708929
>25% bf
>GOMAD
yeah, ok

>>39709349
What's the point though? Why not put in the work first and then roid if you actually want to later?

>>39709389
Because later will be after my vacation. I thought I made it clear that i had a deadline

>>39709407
Lose the fat first and then pin.

>>39709370
He's doing a dirty bulk.. xd

>>39708412
what??? who in god's name gave who such a preposterous idea??