Pullup v. Chinup

I do a set each of pull ups, chin ups and neutral grips.

Weighted chin ups and rows. Never felt like I was doing pull ups properly so I ditched them

crossing your legs make the exercise easier
what a pussy

>>39687142
Always 3x4-6 weighted to 2 AMRAP bodyweight pull ups.

>>39687206
No it doesn't pussy. It leaves your core out, making it harder.

I do both. But if I had to choose, then Chinups.
I'm working my way towards a one arm chinup and I think that shit is awesome.

I always hear that pullups are lat focused and chins are bicep focused. There truth to this or is this just bro science

I feel like chinup involves my biceps a lot more and my back less, which makes it relatively easier.

Pullups behind the neck (or whatever the fuck theyre called) for lyfe

Chins. Hits the biceps, and who doesn't want that? Yes, they are easier than pullups, but who cares? Add weight. Chins are just a better use of your time.

>>39687406
turn your arm in and out and see which activates your bicep more you dingus

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rope climb masterrace reporting in

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Pullover masterrace up in this

>>39687142
I do weighted chin ups for my biceps and weighted wide grip pull ups for my lats.

>105lbs weighted chins
>still have dyel arms

Meme movement.

>>39687722
>I have body dysmorphia. Pls help.

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>>39687722
>>39687822
I can get 22's too

Weighted pullups all day btw

>>39687142
Chin-ups.
Purely because I'm too lazy to do bicep curls so it's the closest thing my arms get to a workout.

i superset kroc rows with chins and my biceps burn baby, burn.


>>39687406
you heard correctly. pronating passively inhibits your elbow flexors, making you rely more on your shoulder extensors to make your reps.

both achieve different things

bang out a set of underhand chins

bang out a set of overhand chins

tell me it feels the same.

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>>39687833
Damn. Could have gotten 22s but one-upped and scored 33s. Impressive, but not as impressive as these

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>>39687142

I like chinups because I can hit the rest of my back muscles and those that are include in the pullup via other exercises such as lat pulldowns, t bar rows, overhand pulldown machine, etc.

I also use a variety of those muscles during the deadlift and would prefer not to weaken them. However, I have been doing switches between chinups and pullups when I do them just to make sure I get some sort of even strength and Pullups are by far much harder.

At one point or on a fresh day where I haven't trained anything else I can probably hit out 15-20 consecutive chinups right away and another 8-12 on the following sets depending on how much time I wait but it's one of those things you just go for.

Pullups is a different story, tfw.

>>39687142
both nigga

pull up for that lat gains
chin up for that bicep gains

>>39687142
neutral/hammer grip master race reporting in

>>39687883
>tfw no gf

>>39687142
I do both, chins on DL day and pullups on row day.

>>39687988
When will this meme die? There's barely any difference between the two.

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>tfw cant do a single pull up

Why the fuck cant I make it brehs??

>>39688200
Do negatives or assisted ones until you can do them.

Pull ups cause I'm clinically depressed.

>>39688165
kipper spotted. If you do slowly, chins hit the arms more, pull ups hit the upper back more

>>39687142
Hammer pulls are easier on your elbows due to neutral grip. Thank me later.

>t. misc

I'm too fat and weak to do either.

>>39688203
>negatives
Negatives only make you stronger at doing negatives.

>>39688295
Incorrect. Changing the rep scheme he will get strong enough to be able to do one. Look up the scooby video.

>>39688295
Lol no, stop spreading false info faggot. Negatives got me to my first pullup reps, quickly too

>>39688255
I do 100 lbs for a 3RM, and >20 body weight for strict reps. It doesn't matter what you think you "feel". The biceps and lats are activated almost identically in the two movements. It's not like either one has significantly more or less flexion at the elbow or extension at the shoulder. You can't curl your chin over the bar, and you can't simply extend your humerus until your chin is over the bar either. You most close both angles at both joints.

The "chins for bis and pulls for back" meme is literally just a meme.

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this is form breakdown right?

>do pullup
>elbows to the side and back
>get up to halfway
>elbows start creeping forwards, lose upper back activation
>at the top it's a reverse grip chinup

the only way I can think of to do it properly is to do slooow negatives ensuring the elbows stay away from the front, anything else brehs?

neutral grip

chinups are a guaranteed tendonitis flareup
pullups irritate an old disc injury

Only damned exercise where I get odd pains & get limited in variety

>>39687142
my elbow does an ominously painless pop whenever i do chinups
so pull ups all day every day.

>>39688731
Try neutral grip

>last rep of pullups or chins
>base of skull feels like its going to explode
>10 seconds of pure agony then it goes away

every fucking time, what is this bullshit

>>39688651
sorry, cant help, but I have the same issue so bump for this

>>39687142
pullups are one of my main movements. I do chinups because bicep curls are stupid as hell.

>>39688831
b-but now you're just bicep curling your entire body

>>39687142
Chin ups are easier, but because my lats are lagging, weighted pullups definitely

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>>39688915

>>39687471
This on time at gym class, I was the only one to climb all the way to the top of the rope, I felt so proud and everyone was cheering on me, but then on the way down I felt paralized by fear of dropping and dying and couldn't do it they had to bring a huge ass stair.
I should had drop and died.

Guys, what If
Hey guys
Guys
What if
Guys srsly
What if you use mixed grip?

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>>39689030
>on the way down I felt paralized by fear of dropping and dying and couldn't do it they had to bring a huge ass stair.
>they had to bring a huge ass stair.
>a huge ass stair.

pics pls

>>39687722
>what are lats

>>39687845
thanks year 11 pdhpe

>>39689056
you will die in the explosion

>>39687171
me 2 desu

>>39687238
what the fuck are you talking about?
how does crossing your legs remove your core from the kinetic chain?

>dyels who worry about insignificant shit like pullups vs chinups when their program is probably complete shit and have so many other things to improve

>>39689102
It was before the time every little shit had a phone with camera; hell, back then phones were unwieldy radiation bricks for the super rich, for wich I'm grateful, only memories remain.

>>39689236
say that to me fookin face m8

>>39689206
Anon, pls.

Mark Rippetoe says to do chins so i do them. The simple reason being more muscles are recruited in a chinup than a pullup which is reason enojgh for me.

i can't do either so lat pulldown machine.

>>39687142
They're completed different this thread is beyond retarded saged

>>39687426
>Pullups behind the neck (or whatever the fuck theyre called) for lyfe

RIP shoulders

>>39687142
You have to get naked in order to do either one properly. It upsets me that images never show naked people doing those primal exercises

>>39687142

Pull-ups are just to show you can do them.

Chin ups are the better exercise. Weighted chins work more muscle mass over a longer range of motion.

>>39687242
I can do 3*5.

Ama.

Weighted pull ups are by far the goatest.
I used to rock climb so im super used to the pull motion compared to Chins. Chins feel unnatural on a straight bar while weighted pull ups feel great.

Currently at 4x10 pull ups with +55 lbs at 190 lbs bodyweight. Gonna make it bros. Fuck Chins ive got biceps just doing compounds.

>>39689409
>>39689431
WHICH ONE IS IT???????????

>>39687845
>pronating passively inhibits your elbow flexors
Not really. It inhibits biceps, engages brachioradialis more. Biceps isn't your main elbow flexor so it doesn't really matter too much. But biceps is stronger than brachioradialis so pullups are a bit harder

Both activate shoulder extensors (and adductors) more or less the same amount

>>39687845
SUPAHSET

Too lazy to curl, so I exclusively do Chin ups.

>>39689433
Pull-ups are objectively harder and a lot more realistic exercise than chin-ups. Only plebs do Chins at my gym over pull-ups.

>>39689433
just split the difference and do mixed grip

>>39689459
Harder doesn't necessarily mean better, you mong.

>>39687142
I do 2 sets of weighted chins, 2 sets light weighted pull up, 2 sets max reps bodyweight neutral grip.
Do people really feel chinups in their back?Am I supposed to? I only really feel my lats activate in very slow pullups.

>>39687142
Chinups, because they let me skip bicep curls with clear conscience

>>39689468
no i fell for this meme and now my left bicep is way bigger than my right

>>39687426
youre fucking your shoulders you dumb shit

Pull ups because m-muh functional strength

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>>39688200
It takes like 2 - 3 weeks to get used to them, man the fuck up.

>>39689459
>more realistic
In what way? How often do you find yourself doing either outside of a gym setting?

>>39687142
Fucking rows babyyyyy
I never do chins or pullups, that's for the birds.

Stupid related question: why can I pull up my whole body weight for like 5 reps without problem but can't lat pull machine pull (what?) half my bw once?

>>39690232
Momentum?

>>39687845
>i 'use' two sets of equipment at once because I'm a special snowflake

>>39690253
Each rep from dead hang.

Is there a subtle or not so subtle difference in mechanics or is it psychologic? I mean, almost 40kg is a not so small difference in two movements which look almost to be the same.

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>>39690232
you're probably so short that the lat pull bar is so high for you that you're overextending your arms to reach it (with your legs locked) so your muscle fibres are too stretched to make an optimal contraction

>chin ups focus the bicep
just kill yourself /fit/

>>39689771
Climbing always involves more movement of the pull-up kind. Chin-ups may help you carry boxes around lol

>>39687142
I'm better at chinups but I enjoy pullups more.

>>39687171
>>39689224
I do benches at every single angle 1, 2, 3...90 just so I hit it all, you get me senpai????

fucking shit guys,you work your lats the same with pull ups and chin ups

if chin ups are for biceps then pull ups are for brachialis right?fucking autists

>>39690384
I usually sit in my gymbros lap.
But seriously, nice try, I'm 1.82 and have no problem reaching the bar.

>>39688651
>>39688778
I was just thinking today this might be because of a deficiency in lat strength caused by the posterior delt being stronger.
It could also be linked to strong external rotator activating during the exercise and messing up your form.

2 sets of pullups to every 1 set of chinups

>>39690693
>>39688778
>>39688651
The reason I think lat strength deficiency and substantial posterior delt strength is the reason is because I often train rows to hypertrophy sets/reps but I rarely train chin/pullups

When I do I can do 10+ for sets, but voluntary or not I can't pull to elbows by sides hang for more than the second set.

I try doing pull ups after my Pendlays but I feel so wrecked after. It seems that rows and pulls/chins don't go well together. If I try switching the order then my rows suck.

What do?

>>39689468
How am I meant to grip the bar with my feet?

>>39690513
what about the uncountably infinite set of angles in between those 90 angles you mentioned?

>>39691311
Go lighter? Or don't do them on the same day?

>>39691311
Not that they dont go well together, its just fatigue.
If pendlays are your main back exercise (Im assuming they are) then do your pendlay sets and focus on strict/good form lat pull downs on a lighter weight.

Can do 6 chin ups.
Can't do more than 2 pull ups.
Why.

>>39691887
They're harder.

>>39690513
> not using the radian system

enjoy your no gains

>>39689444
This

>>39691887
you're fat

>>39690402
If you were climbing a rope, chins would be closer than pullups.

>>39687142
i really like ultra-wide grip pull ups. but, I'm switching over to chin-ups to add more size to my biceps-- shoulder width, yea.

however, all time best chin ups are pic related-- the very center angled grip (not hammer) are the GOAT of all pull/chin ups.

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>>39694410
pic related

TL; DR narrow angled chin up bar.

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>>39687142
I can only do pullups because my pullup bar is a door.

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>>39688295
wrong as fuck.

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>>39694452
WHAT IF THE DOOR YOUR FINGERS

>>39689385
>>39689651

Nice source there you fucking cucks.

I've done them for the past 8 months and have had no issues with shoulder development or any type of joint pain.

I love how dyels jump to whatever their little IG idol tells them is bad

>>39696570
You dont need a source
Do a normal pull up motion in the air right now nice ans easy no resistance right?

Now do it while pulling your arms back as if it was behind your head, somethings resisting it right? Thats your shoulder being put under unnecessary stress and slowly wearing thru the slippy membrane like spinning tyres on a road sure wont damage them over a few months but youll regret it when they pop but unlike tyres shoulders are not easily replaceable and fucked joints are not nice

Source biology student who fucked there shoulders doing this

>>39687142
Both have their uses. Overhand gives wideness and underhand gives thicccness

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>>39696900

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>>39688200
It can take a long time, I have a wife need scapula and still can't do them properly and I've been training for a year. I'm getting close though, can finally do a few chin-ups. Pic related is my faggot ass.

>>39696900
literally retarded

>>39688773
Stroke?

>>39696900
>broscience the post

>>39695924
you open the door as much as you can, but a pullup really doesn't create much motion of the door itself

Chinups are great for when youre too tired to do more pullups

>>39687142
i do both, i switch it up whenever and i do weighted first then back off sets

i mainly do it because people think i got my gains from bodyweight so they are always asking me to do pushups and pullups for them to see and i dont want to embarrass myself

>>39697888
KEK, are you literally the "pushups before bed and a little basketball on the weekend" guy?

>>39697917
>yea i just do some pull ups whenever i can
>yea dude pushups work your upper body, going to the gym is a waste of money
>how did i get my abs? i do 100 sit ups every morning
>i eat whatever i feel like, haha im not some sort of bodybuilder who only eats chicken
>i run and play pickup sometimes for my legs
>planks are great for toning the abs i do them all the time
>haha i might be able to do a push up with u on my back
>yea my diet is so shit lol, its just monster drinks and candy

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>>39689417
How long did it take? Did you ever get injured? If so, how did you deal with it?

>>39698122
Want to know something hilarious?
The guy who litterally just does pushups chinups situps squats and plays sports along with just watching what he eats and cuttin gwill be in all metrics healthier then the guy who lifts and takes supps

>>39698483
OK, but the guy who lifts and plays sports and watches what he eats will BTFO that guy.

>>39687142
too fat to do either

>>39687142
I can't even do a single one... Yet.

Chin ups are easier and are far more specific to your biceps. Pull ups more difficult but and are much more general. I feel pull ups are the better exercise but both are good.

why are pull ups seen as so hard on here? When i was training thinking i was going into the marine corp i worked up to 22 dead hang pullups in a row, now I can only do around 12 but still
these arent that hard guys

>>39698678
We're fat. Seriously, it's all about how much you weigh.

>>39687883
>i cant do a single pull up
Ftfy freind :^)

>>39698695
when i did the 22 i weighed in at 156 pounds, 30 seconds before i did them
last i did 12 was last week, that was at 174
5'9", i know im not fat but i dont think im dyel, at least not at 174 now
and hell my 5'4" brother weighed 186 and i watched him grind out 14 a few months back

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>>39687142
>bodyweight exercises

>>39698738
thought that was gomer pyle from fullmetal jacket at first

>>39687206
Does crossing your legs somehow defy gravity? Nice one m8.

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>>39698748
>fullmetal jacket

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>>39698773
>fullmetal alchemist

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>>39699137
>fullmetal alchemist
>/fit/
>not posting the /fit/test character
ya dun goofed

>>39698773
Only faggots hate Full Metal Jacket.

Usually chins because biceps. I'm too lazy to isolate them and my lats are already ahead.

Sometimes I do ring pull-ups for better shoulder mobility. My gym also has a weird bendy bar for whatever reason, it allows you to do an extra rep on your 90% max, perhaps it's useful.

Also using a pully handle allows even more bicep and brachialis work.

>>39687142
why not both?

>>39687142
Chinups, better squeeze at top

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>>39690513
>not going even further beyond