Redpill me on PPL

I'm not going to do that because you shouldn't be doing PPL as a natty and even as a roider there are better programs out there for whatever your goal is.

You could do PPLxULx though.

Full body is the best though

>>39675184
I do ULxPPLx.
It's pretty gud.

>>39675216
Please explain why? I love seeing my chest/bicep pump in the mirror on a dull monday.
Also, legs twice a week? Fuck to the no.

I do PPL

you do what you want senpai

>>39675299
Science says that each muscle group needs to be hit at least 2x a week. By doing full body e.g. 2-3x a week, you can fulfill this without living in the gym.

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>>39675205
What would a typical week look like with this routine?

>>39675370
Once a week actually.

Once every two weeks to maintain.

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>>39675370
What if I actually love being in the gym? I want to go there 6-7 times a week. Hell, I'd go there 8 times a week if I could.

>>39675418
You need recovery. Full body provides best recovery

Check out https://youtu.be/W9_ZN1_bfXw

This guy only lifts 2x a week and is a natty

>>39675184
If brosplits work fine for you, keep doing them. If you have doubts, try ppl or pp ul and all that stuff for a few weeks and see if you like it. While beginners should do fullbody, after this stage you need to find what works best for you and how many days you want to be at the gym. I did fullbody, went over to ppl, didnt get much gains, tried a brosplit, thought it sux and went back to fullbody 3 times a week and im seeing great gains. You need to find out how fast you recover and how often you can workout, and then search for the optimal frequency. Also dont forget that a ppl emphasizes the back and neglects the delts, a brosplit is very push heavy and so on

>>39675299
>Also, legs twice a week? Fuck to the no.
cuck

>>39675516
he's a dyel though

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Related probably question.

I've been doing ICF 5x5 for a few months now, and now that I'm aware that Jason blaha is a meme should I stop and do something that isn't full body? Or I could keep full body and switch to stronglifts?

>>39675537
Post me ur pic. If you claim him to be DYEL, than 99% lifters are DYEL bcs he's one of the biggest natty lifters ive ever seen.

>>39675184
You'll plateau eventually if you don't mix up your lifts. Muscle confusion is KEY to constant growth

>>39675572
ICF is just SL with accessory workouts. Blaha is a meme, the workout is proven and good.

>>39675584
The reason as to why my routine feels so good is because it's never exactly the same. I switch exercises based on how/what I feel like while I'm in the gym. That way I still "stick to the plan" while constantly leaving my muscles with a "wtf" look on them.

>>39675575
Most gym goers don't lift they just pretend

>>39675572
>Jason blaha is a meme
How so?

>>39675708
Has been lifting since 1929 still looks like absolute dogshit. All while taking steroids, so you can't give him points for being "the biggest natty guy u'll ever see". I'd rather take advice from ronnie coleman, jay cutler, arnold or literally anyone else that has actually made it

>>39675663
:)
YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT!

>>39675723
Just bcs he looks like shit doesnt mean his program doesnt work. Perhaps if he tried other programs he will look even shittier. The program is based on stronglifts which are proven to work.

>>39675773
>Just bcs he looks like shit doesnt mean his program doesnt work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wat

>>39675723
ICF is inspired by Stronglifts. Stronglifts is inspired by Reg Park. Reg Park is Arnold's idol. Boom!

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>>39675787
that may be true, but last time I checked, arnold wasn't doing 5x5's

kek

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>>39675812
Arnold in fact did 5x5 when he started lifting. Lol.

Here is a pic of Reg Park

>>39675844
>when he started lifting
...
Well now that you mention it, everyone has to go through the process of builing strength. What I'm saying is that Arnold wasn't doing 5x5's his entire life. The whole Arnold way of lifting if I'm not mistaken is 3 sets of 8-12 reps

Here is Arnold's mirin quote. "He was so powerful and rugged-looking that I decided right then and there I wanted to be a bodybuilder, another Reg Park."

>>39675494
You get recovery every night and on PPL some muscles don't see any action.

>>39675879
Yes. And OP most likely has no strength base.

>>39675723
The guy obviously has absolute shit genetics, which is why he looks like shit. How is that relevant though? Most coaches in most sports never were the best athletes themselves.
Blaha bases his opinion on science and other non-anecdotal evidence. Just because of this alone it is atleast to be concerned, no matter what he looks himself.

Coleman, Cutler, Arnold etc. have absolutely no clue what training as a natty is or requires. They don't base their training programs on science. They do what works for them in their extreme situation (gear, genetics, professional). Also the programms they tell everyone are pure marketing to get fuccboys like you to go all 'omggg I do the Arnold bicep programm!!!!'. None of what they say is relevant to anyone but themselves.

I'd rather follow the advice and programm of a guy that looks like shit but bases his stuff on science and is proven to work good hundreds of times instead of getting a hardon over Arnolds memesplit™ (pls buy) that isn't based on anything remotely relevant for me as a natty.

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Young Arnold & Reg Park

>>39675418
>tfw i go 8 times a week on tren

>>39675915
little did you know that the plan was always to leave the natty stage and to ascend to the next level of aesthetics

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>>39675915
Fuck science, the earth is flat and ze memesplit™ is le best way of training for a low test natty fuckboi™ like me. Also, how dare you mock the arnold bicep programmmm!!!!! I TAKE HIS CREATINE I FOLLOW HIS WORKOUT ROUTINE I WALK AND TALK LIKE HIM I AM LITERALLY ARNOLD!!!11!!!

PhD in broscience > exercise science

>>39676054
actual accomplishment > theoretical accomplishment

>>39676069
water > cola

>>39676098
big dick > small dick

>>39675184
>thinking that you're actually making good progress on a 6 day split
KEK

>>39675575
>one of the biggest natty lifters I've ever seen

Breh he is 5"5

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>>39675516
Now… I'm not saying that his traps, lateral delts, and upper pecs are over developed… but… wait yeah, no that's exactly what i'm saying.

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>>39676136
>lurking around progress threads only to see dyels cirklejerk over their PPL program with attatched pictures of their amazing transformations
pic related:

>>39676100
having a brain > not having a brain

>>39676178
Is this you? YOu actually had a shaped core at that ridiculous bodyfat (still looked awful but you can actually see the fat rolling over the muscle). its pretty strange.

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>>39675393

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I do Upper/Lower 6x per week with HIIT on my lower days.

A-am I not making gains as well as I could be?

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>>39675184
I just run PPL and go to the gym any day that I can, which ends up being 5-6x a week.

I love it.