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>>39614876
Go on...

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>>39614876
This picture is smaller than your dick, OP

>doing calisthenics
why don't you retards do calisthenics the sport aka rock climbing you get the calisthenics body and you are participating in a actual sport

>>39614917
what's a good begginer street workout?

I've started to run 1km daily, do 100 push ups, 50 australian pull ups, 3 pull ups, 100 squats.

wonder if I need more.

>>39614929
there's not such shit where I live.

Or you could just lift weights

>>39615067
you can look good with just calisthenics.

>>39615078
I sense the doubt in your words

>>39615078
You can look better with lifting weights

>>39615094
>>39615096
not really, I just realized the body I want can be done with bodyweights.

there's not need to start bashing the thread.
as long as you do exercise, you'll look great.

bodyweight can produce great results.

>>39615106
Lifting weights is faster though

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>>39615078

Wrong.

If you see someone that looks good they did barbell training + AAS

That's like saying you can go compete in nascar while crawling on your hands and knees.

Not only do you need a car you need a fast one and you need to know how to drive

>>39615106
Where's that prisoner workout graphic. It had a full list of progressive calisthenics.

>>39615121
>>39615128
there's no reason to think lifting is the only way to do shit and look good.

some people want to be lean, others big.

calisthenics can produce decent results, unless you suffer from body dismorphia.

>>39615106
I don't disagree but lifting weights will be faster and produce better results

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>>39615128
yeah if you want to look good you need a fast car

>>39615078
And you can have sex by sucking off a dog. But why should you if you can just lift weights?

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>>39615139

Ok but you said look good.

if what you meant was look like a tiny twink then say that

Yes calthentics will make you look like a twink bitch

>>39615143

/thread

>>39615146

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>>39615139
Why look decent and make slow progress when you just lift weights and progress weekly and faster?

I did bodyweight for a month and it was frustrating. I decided to join a gym and in 2.5 months with a proper diet, I gained 15 lbs and felt stronger than ever

>>39615143
>>39615146
>>39615155
>>39615161
not everybody wants to be big, anon.

No need to hate.
Like I said, there's plenty of dudes that look fine and great with just calisthenics.

Of course someone can make some heavy weights to train also.

>>39615173
Some people just don't want to go to the gym.
I felt better doing calisthenics than what I did in the gym.
My goal is to lose body fat, rather than being big.

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>>39615212

>I aspire to look "fine"

I hate this mentality though. It's an anethma to me. I aspire to look fine. I aspire to have an OK job. I aspire to be average. I aspire to die nothing special.

Fuck that shit bro.

I will hate on it because I want people to shoot higher and be better.

>>39615161
>filename
kek

>>39615212
>not everybody wants to be big, anon.
Do you really think you can walk into a gym and your muscle will just starting popping like some fucking popcorn? It takes at least a year with a strict diet to look "fine".
Calisthenics is just inefficient compared to the traditional workouts.
The only reason you can chose it over normal gym if you're some kind of neanderthal far from civilization and its accumulated knowledge.

>>39615278
There's a place for bodyweight routines. It's called prison.

>>39615239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW_nndQVhZo

why do you assume body weight is some weak ass pussy shit?

A single hand push up is not a joke bro.

Sure, the leg workout is a meme, but this doesn't mean I can't get some weights.

>>39615278
like I said, some people find gym better, other calisthenics better.
I do find the latter more fun for me.

I weight 65 kg, a single hand push up will be like lifting at least 40-50 kg with one hand, that's not easy BS.

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>>39615212
>I want to look fine than being big

Want to know how I know you're knew? You don't become Arnold by lifting weights. Its all about the type of training and your diet you dumb shit.

>>39615239
Also this to some degree. Be the best you can be faggot. Don't ever be satisfied.

>>39615291
how bout having fun doing them?

I find gym to be extremelly boring and repetitive.

>>39615297
I don't want to be arnold, I want to look like I do sport and not be a fat piece of shit.

>>39615295
65 kg

Pls be in London.

>>39614929
>lifting

why don't you retards do lifting the sport aka weightlifting you get the lifting body and you are participating in a actual sport

>>39615310
kek faggot.

>be dyel, 5'11 150lbs
>do GOMAD and stronglifts 5x5
>165lbs
>250squat, 155 bench, 240 deadlift, 105ohp, 115barbell row
>finally starting to get motivated
>actually work up the courage to talk to girls at the bar
>at this point in my life only ever fucked 1 girl
>fuck 3 girls over the summer because newfound confidence
>show up to flight school for the Navy right before Thanksgiving
>not allowed to take pre-workout
>had to stop taking protein shake until I get it approved by flight doc
>pt Mon/wed/fri, literally hold pushup position for 30 fucking minutes
>can't lift because I'm sore from holding push up position for 30 fucking minutes
>already lost 7 pounds

What the fuck do I do guys?

>>39615305
Well then don't eat as much as him when you lift you newfag

>>39615078

you can build lean mass and have defined abs with just pinning test and jacking off to asuka all day

if you want to actually look good you gotta help save the fukkin elephants, dumbass

>>39615329
An adult male weighs at least 200 pounds. And since underage people can't post here, it's definitely a girl. A hefty one but still a girl.

>>39615349
>>39615359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo5KTuzaOfg&t=43s

why the hate faggots.

>>39615370
I don't live in the obesity capital of the world.
My country isn't filled with whales like your nation does.

>his nation average would be extreme overweight males here

>>39615345
>do some chinups (NOT pullups, your lats are already sore) every other day so your biceps don't get cannibalized for energy
>do weightless squats and if you can pistol squats for legs
>eat more

Should be enough to maintain most gains.

ok so I asked the elephant and he said literally every single one of these fagets attended a gymnastics gym since child and u made fun of them for wearing lycra so now they're coming to kick your guyses' asses. better run to the hardware store and grab some spray paint asap.

>>39615394
I don't want to just maintain. My arms are still small, I want upper body gains.

>>39614876
what about fitnessFAQ guys?

>>39614876
btw calisthenics means ring work too not just pull ups and push ups

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNLjPNwZ6iM&t=67s

some calisthenics guys.

>>39615444
I dunno, I want to talk about street workout but there's plenty of fags talking shit.

is like if someone insulted their secret club or something.

>>39615452
got any cool vids, bro?

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>>39615430
wat

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>>39615295

>roiding for this

Two of them are on AAS and one of them is natural (or just has horrid genetics).

Think about that. That's what you get when you take AAS and do bodyweight. You look like that.

As opposed to barbell training, where you take AAS and you look like this (if we're going to cherrypick...

I can't believe there is a fat dyel somewhere out there that thinks

1. Those bodies are something to aspire to, that's a good final form.

2. He will look like that doing bodyweight crap without using roids

KEK

>>39615455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEQA3fAZCfg
if you want great bodyweight stuff check out calisthenicmovement and fitnessfaq on youtube

>>39615489
I don't want to look like a roided hulk faglord.

I'm not interested in looking big, like a big homosexual.

Why the hate though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo5KTuzaOfg&t=189s
this is the body I want.

>>39615518
btw most of the guys in >>39615455
your video lift weights too and/or roid

>>39615523

>this is the body I want
>litterally a picture of a guy who not only uses Test but bulks on tren and cuts with clen
>I don't want to look like a roided hulk

You're so fucking stupid man.

That guy takes AAS and then he does barbell training.

How fucking dumb do you need to be to believe you will look like that naturally withot steroids doing BODYWEIGHT?

LOL

>>39615523
you won't have that kind of body as a natty LIFTER, forget calisthenics

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>>39615523

this is me >>39615551

I think we're getting trolled. No way someone looked at that guy's body and said 'Yep, no need for steroids, just some bodyweight'

If he's serious, whatever. Let him do bodyweight and be natty.

Post back when you look like that op!

>>39615575
I don't care.
I simply want to look like I do sports and not be fat.

my current goal is to get to 10% body fat.

why every guy I post that look good with calisthenics is roiding for you fags?

>>39615591

>why every guy I post that is clearly on AAS with traps and delts that no natural could every hope to achieve and get them doing "bodyweight" on steroids?

10/10 man I took the bait hook line and sinker

>>39615602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F38bMvWq72Q

are these guys also on roids?

Like I said, a single hand push up is easily more than 40kg, that's good enough.

>>39615618

No 100% natural you will look like that in a couple years of bodyweight routine good look man post back in two years when you look like that

Especially top left. That just screams 'Natural Phsyique' to me. The clen skin? He probably just trained really hard to get clen skin. No way he used clen.

>>39615642
as long as I get to 10% bf I'm okay.

I dunno bro, I can do 25kg on the lat machine yet I tried one single hand push ups and couldn't do even one.

those bodyweight shit is not easy, dunno why everyone makes fun off it.

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>>39615683
I'm training with rings and 2 20kg dumbbells cause I live in a village and we don't have a gym
anyway this is what I got from 8 months of training OP,don't expect to look like those guys in your video from calisthenics

>>39615729
that looks great bro.

dunno why everyone here has fucking body dismorphia.

>calisthenics thread
>not a single example of a good body acquired through bodyweight training
heh

>>39615683
>dunno why everyone makes fun off it.

Because it is not as effecient as barbell training.

ALso the poster boys of the movement take AAS and then they do barbell training on steroids and make morronic videos for youtube money convincing idiots they will get a steroid physique naturally

>>39615729

FAURK MIRRIN MAN

NATTY? ROIDS!

WOW! SHREDDED!

YOU MADE IT MAN! BODYWEIGHT IS SOOO GOOD!

ONLY 8 MONTHS OF PROGRESS! WOW! CLATHITHENICS IS GREAT!

>>39615729
That's actually great, considering the resources you have.

>>39615780
nice meme

>>39615780
I dunno bro, I was able to do 10x10 push up easily.
but then I tried a diamond push up and it was hard as fuck bro.

I mean, I'm more interested in doing a one hand vertical push up than your meme weights.

Can you do easily one hand inclined push ups?

Calisthenics are fun bro, more fun than the same boring crap routines lifting the same boring shit.

Diferent tastes, not need to be a cunt.

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>>39615807

>can you do this or that meme shit

Don't know don't even care.

>Diffrent tastes

What are your goals? You posted earlier that you wanted to LOOK GOOD.

Is your goal to look good? barbell training.

Is your goal to do some weird pushups? Do some bodyweight crap routine.

I do barbell training because I want to look good and it's the quickiest easiest way to look good.

If you want to look good, do it. It is not only the qucikest and easiest but the ONLY way to look good.

You have high goals. You're posting videos of roided physiques.

It's good to have high goals. But if your goal is to look like that (you need roids) ... you need to train hard and do everything perfect.

If you want to look 50% as good, you need to train hard and do everything perfect.

If you want to look like this in 8 months >>39615729

Yeah sure do bodyweight crap.

If you want to be a sickcunt? Barbel training

>>39615840
and how good do you look like?

>>39615128
Nice one faggot post pics of other men to prove your point. All while im making good gains doing calisthenics.

>>39615840
>what are my goals
to look like I do sport, I'm healthy, get to ottermode, get to 10% bf.

All doable by bodyweight.

Also, those cool tricks seem more impressive than lifting some meme number.

>huh duh if you don't look like a roided faggot you're a dyel
nice body dysmorphia faggot.

we have diferent goals.

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>>39615869

Like shit.

>>39615873

Uh huh.

>>39615884

You can't get to ottormode doing bodyweight shit

You can get to 10% bf by simply eating less food and never moving off the couch

>we have diffrent goals

No, we both want to look better. You are just never going to make it.

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>>39615840
>cares only about aesthetics
>is shallow and ignorant
>doesn't consider the anon with 8 months of training has limited resources
>says sickcunt
>can't spell barbell
>attaches picture of zyzz

boy you're a fucking pokemon, you know that?


>>39615884
don't listen to ignorant people, calisthenics are great and you have a proof you can achieve a nice physique in the thread.

>>39615884
stop falling for that troll OP

>>39614876
I don't get the point of this photo. This body can be achieved in 1.5-2 years instead of 3 by doing weight training instead of calisthenics. Probably a heck of a lot easier, too.

>>39615960

>advising people to do barbell training because it is the fastest way to look good
>only advising people to do so if their goal is to look good

'HURR HURR YOURE A TROLL'

Question: How long does you average bodyweight guy make lol no progress before he gives up and starts barbell training?

How long do you guys waste? 6 months? Year? 2 years?

>troll

As my body has improved, I have bene feeling more confident, happier, etc etc.

I want other anons to see the same progress. I don't want them on bodyweight crap and make no progress

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>>39615931
Keep jerking off to Zyzz. I will enjoy looking better than you without barbell training.

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>>39615994
here's my "before" picture man
I did make progress,ye I don't look great but it's the best I can do

>>39616004
Dont worry anon you probably look better than the fag thats posting pictures of other men.

>>39614939
squats/pistol squats 3 sets of as many you can do
pull ups,5 sets of as many you can do
push ups 3 sets of as many you can do
ez pz

ITT

the type of nigga dat thinks 500 mg of test will make him look like a "roided hulk faglord"

Read a book, son.
Read the sticky first and just lurk more.

>>39616059
>roid monkey which thinks he worked for his gains detected

>>39616059
like you could learn anything from lurking here lmao

I do calisthetics and cardio because it is a serious weight loser. I lost 30 pounds from 5k runs, and crunches and squats in 3 months. I'm not looking to be muscular, I just want to be average and pretty androgynous so it works for me. It also helps you get those curves in your mid section. But if you think it's gonna make you muscular, you're a fool.

>>39614876
I'm doing calisthenics and I look like his 1 year at 2 years.

>>39614929
Doing only climbing trains core and forearms, don't pretend you haven't laughed to yourself at the adam ondra lookalikes at the crag who look like an underfed version of popeye despite being able to top V10

>>39615999
Are you the anon from a bodyweight thread months ago that said he also does weighted dips and pullups?
Mirin

>>39616385
Thanks
I dont do weighted dips anymore. I can do most advanced dip variations so i dont bother. No reason to add weight.
I just do weighted chin ups now to build up strength for 1 arm chin up.

>>39616406
So it is you then?
For some reason your physique has been stuck in my head for a long time. You actually inspired me to move away from barbells and more in the calisthenics and weighted chins direction. Mind sharing a couple routines or tips?

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>>39615459
Make way for the weakass faggot. Pic related is where I'm, 1 month in.

I'm shaking a little bit after workout for a 10-15 minutes, is that normal?

>>39616451
I dont really bother with routines so i cant really recommend any. One thing i can say is whatever routine you pick make sure it involves dips. Push ups just arent enough for chest.
Also in terms of getting size it will vary in your strength and training. For example if you are doing a lot of pull ups and progressions to a 1 armed pull up you will get a developed back.

>>39616516
Thanks brah.
I can't wait to get back push ups and handstands once my wrist heals.
One last question: Is all you do for legs shrimp squats and plyos? Or do you use external weight?

>>39616564
I just did pistol squats and plyometrics but ive stopped training legs lol
They only look big because i did taekwondo for 5 years

>>39616589
not him, but how bout one hand push ups, are they good enough?

I can't even do one.

>>39616589
Fair enough man.
Some day in a couple months I'm gonna post in a CBT. Hopefully by then I can near enough your physique, which is my current goal.
Keep training hard.

>>39616631
I mean its ok but its really all technique and theres a lot of body twisting. I can do then for reps but i never use them as part of my regular training because its really not much of a chest or tricep exercise. Do them if you want but dips are far superor imo.
>>39616632
Good luck famlam

>>39616454
elaborate on shaking

>>39616708
Like you are out on the cold, not freezing but you haven't out enough clothes on. Barely visible tremor like. Not specific to any place, with whole body.

It might be just tireness though, I worked 10 hours or something beforehand.

Keep this thread alive bros.

Someone post their routine or some shit.

>>39617144
I'm doing 1km jog.
100 push ups.
66 inclined pull ups.
100 squats.
100 situps.

going to add diamond push ups.

>>39617144
Ill post some of my planche progress when im home

>>39615128
A geared up rent boy with more plastic surgery and make up then a 22 year old rich girl?

You do realize that guy barely ever worked out and had a horrible diet right?

>>39615143
>I don't disagree but lifting weights will be faster and produce better results

Because they don't want to lift weights and it's a big hassle most times.

Thinking that the only way to get fit or to build a stronger fitter better looking body is by lifting weights is why a shit load of dudes look like shit and have ruined bodies.

>>39617144
I just do 3x10 ring dips, pullups, rows, rto pushups for upper.
3x10 Pistol squts and one leg calf raises for lower.
Core I do 3x10 toe to bar leg raises, 4x25 crunches and side crunches. Then a couple minutes of planks, hollowbodies, superman holds, and back bridges.
Also run 5k as many days a week as my body can take.

>>39617191
And he still looks better than every bodyweightfag. How? Because barbells are just so effective.

>>39617207
No, faggot.
STEROIDS are effective.

The sheer reckless volume of gear he was on on top of doing even minor lifting was enough to put on mass.

Take your "aesthetic" lifestyle posterqueer and get the fuck out.

>>39615143
I know people that have lifted far longer than i did bodyweight but look like garbage. I also know people that lifted that look better than me.
That said i have yet to see ANYONE in real life reach my physique/strength by lifting for a year like some idiots claim on this board.

>>39617205
Hows your physique?
I prefer calisthenics to weights and am going to switch over once I finish my cut.
Along with weighted dips and pullups I'm hoping to make some good gains.

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Oh man, I do really find funny all these skinny fat, weak faggots that probably started weightlifting about a year and a half ago talk on how calisthenic isnt effective to build a good body, newsflash, just like bodybuilding if you eat and train right, you are gonna have a nice body. No, not because that stupid shit it's regurgitated over and over again doesn't mean its true, a prime example of this, is basically YOU, you are small and weak and haven't achieved your dream body even though you do your praised weightlifting. I have done calisthenics for around 2 years now, and I BET most of you faggots don't come even close to me

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weighted "bodyweight" is the key, in my opinion:
just do push ups and pull ups with as much weight (weighted vest) as possible for 3x8 or 5x5. for legs you can do weighted step ups.
this is all to get the body everyone wanted when they started (and normal people consider hot).
source: noko

>>39617434
Youll never achieve any advanced moves doing weighted stuff not to mention stuff like shoulders will lag since you need to be skilled to work them properly.
Secondly why would you do calisthenics and miss out on all the cool moves like planche?planch

>>39617144
300 squats
300 hip floor abductions per leg
300 lunges
100 crunches

In sets of 50 or 60 each

I used to jog 5k everyday but I can't now because of the cold so I had to up my calistenics.

>>39617467
why do i need to do "advanced moves"? i want to look good naked, and i do. my shoulders are fine.. i had some troubles back when i did ring dips, but i replaced them with weighted push ups and proper warm up.

>>39615212
> not everybody wants to be big
Ah. I see. You're a woman

Gtfo

>>39617467
also, my body (and vest) is just the tool to achieve my goal. i couldnt care less about planches.

>>39617503
If you want to look good just go to a gym.
Main purpose of calisthenics is strength. That is my main goal. I look good either way because of low bodyfat and muscles so i dont need to worry about looking good. Im >>39615999 btw

>>39615994
>>39617354

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>>39617310
Kinda bruce lee mode. No arms, no chest and a triangle body kek.

>>39616285
it trains lats too, and legs depending on how you do it. If you're one of those guys who makes it his focus to go as quick as possible you will get a pretty powerful body

>>39617547
i do look great (without barbells), do you read my posts before re-posting your body? also, you look like a manlet so i cannot say how i look compared to you. im not that ripped but have a bigger chest and i'm probably much taller..

>>39617669
So why not go to a gym and train with barbells?

>>39617735
are you kidding me?

>>39617758
No i am not kidding you.
Its far better to train with barbells than to do bodyweight movements with a vest.

>>39617808
better in what way? costs? time? gain of muscles / workout?
there is more than black and white in life.

>>39617860
You can overload a barbell far easier. You have access to machines, dumbells and you can do other exercises like deadlifts, squats etc etc
All you seem to be doing is a bunch of push ups and pull ups.

>>39617896
i'm aware of that. and i did go to the gym.

now my workout lasts 20min, i can hear any music as loud as i want, train without shirt and have still the body most guys dream of.

i know i could reach 100% of my potential with 100% time (gym), but prefer to reach 80% potential with 20% time.

its just my way. i dont care, what others do. just wanted to let the beginners know, that there are different approaches.

>>39618017
I am curious to see a physique built by 20 minute workouts.

>>39618030

"1. You can build muscle and strength in as little as 20 minutes a day if you know what you're doing. Twenty minutes of well planned, focused training will lead to significant improvements in your physique and work capacity.
2. This program only requires a barbell and, ideally, a bench. You'll only do four basic lifts. They're split over two training days and you'll go back and forth between them throughout the week."
https://www.t-nation.com/workouts/20-minute-muscle-builder

- Christian Thibaudeau

>>39618082
I want pics not some meme article

>>39615459
Thanks. I'm saving this.

can you top heavy meathead even support yourselves? dips and pullups can replace most upper body movements?

>>39617167

did you get bald?

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>>39615106
I've got some other images too.

>>39614939
Add 100 situps and multiply the running by 10. In three years time you'll be able to beat anyone in one punch, man.

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>>39617175
Planche progress photo as promised.
I barely held this for half a second so I wouldnt say I can do staddle planche yet but still looks good imo.

>>39619699
realistically, how long did it take to get from a tuck planche to straddle

>>39619779
I started training planche frequently late october this year but like I said thats not really a straddle planche. I imagine ill have a real straddle planche in a few more months.

>>39615441
Basic is notorious for either whipping guys into shape, or being a gains goblin for guys that are in shape. Tough it out and get on schedule after you're done

>>39619793
Gotchu, was just curious on the timeframe, thanks

>>39614876
It took him 3 years to turn and face the camera?

>>39614876
Cal. is a dumb meme. If you want to be healthy and get bored at the gym, sure, do it. But if you want to claim to be strong or look good you're out of your mind. Doing only cal. you will either look like a praying mantis and have "functional strenght" or do roids and claim "all calisthenics braah" . Only people who do it that look good or are strong are either doing roids or do freeweights on the side.

>>39620286
Do you think these guys do roids or are they lying about calisthenics?
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>>39615999
Post routine please?
How long did it take to get a physique like that?

>>39620980
I dont have a routine and ive been very active since I was 12 years old. Of course I never trained seriously at that age but I did a lot of martial arts until I was 17 then I started really focusing on calisthenics.

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>>39617480
300? What the fuck? Why not just wear body weights and do less reps for bigger gains?

>>39621011
So make a general routine for fit since you're a such a pro, most of us don't know what we're doing when it comes TO calisthenics

>>39616788
Yeah man, you are tired, I suggest you take 30-90 mins of nap before, drink a bit of water and do the workout.

>>39615459
Awesome image, I do this everyday with an added weightlift for biceps.

>>39620980
13 years m8

>>39621073
Ok if you insist ill just type an example of a workout that I would do myself.
workout A:
1: planche training for 10-15 minutes. Use isometric holds and dynamic reps
2: band assisted chin ups 3x5-8 followed by 3x3-5(increase intensity by holding the band lower or farther from your body)
3:Archer dips for 6 reps followed by 6 more reps of regular dips
4:Wide grip pull ups
5:Finish off with dragon flag or V-sit

Workout B:
1: 3x5 wide grip elevated handstand push ups followed by 2x3-5 close grip
2: front lever 3x5-8 dynamic reps may add in some isometric work
3:3x3 bar muscles ups and 2x5 ring muscle ups
4: Bulgarian dips 3x8
5: Toes to bar 3x10
Overall this could take you anywhere from 45 mins to an hour and a half depending on how much you rest inbetween sets.

>>39616788
Yeah man, I used to get them when I started training as well, it's the muscles being exhausted and likely sodium depletion causing mild crampoes.

For the people iit arguing about lifting vs calisthenics,
I've done both for extended amounts of time, with years of not exercising apart, and am really unbiased.

>Calisthenics
It is overall better for you.
You learn your body better.
You use your own bodyweight, minimal risk of injury.
You will see more result in daily activities, your body works better.
No need for a gym or equipment.
Better if you want to include conditioning.
Better variety of exercises, challenging different groups of muscles.
Your strength will be more explosive, which is actually the good kind, the one you use in daily life or in dangerous situations.

>Lifting
Results faster by miles.
Easy to progressive overload, don't have to change exercises all the time.
Going to the gym is actually a great experience, you will build some basic human social skills, you will meet people but not in a threatening way, you will check out a lot of cardio bunny ass.
Easier to maintain the habit of being fit with lifting, trust me.
You will hands down look better.

>My advice
Take up a sport you like, and go with that.
Calisthenics are better if you want to be a fit person and not just look like one. They require probably 2x as much determination on your part, when I see lifters thinking they have discipline and willpower and they think they're putting a lot of effort in, I always kek to myself. Doing a competitive sport (I always encourage combat sports, they build character, confidence, and are fun as fuck) is on a different league in that aspect.
If you want to lose weight and look good, lift. Start now. 3 days a week SS and add chin-ups.
If you are semi-fit and want to have a body that works great, and you WILL feel a difference, find a good calisthenics program, focused on constant movement, about 3 sets of 10 reps and then bump it to 3 sets of 30 reps, which builds conditioning more than strength but the strength you will get from it will be more usable than the strength from lifting. Cont.

>>39621339
Cont.

You can get a program like convict conditioning and make it 6x6 for more strength/muscle mass but if you wanna do that just go lift.

When you are a fit person, then you can incorporate lifting into your schedule.

ALWAYS have 2 days of cardio in, for starters do running C25K 2x a week, then add a HIIT day, and then after some time just do HIIT with calisthenic exercises and run on Saturdays.

As I said, if you want to lose weight, or just look better and feel better, but not really in it for being in peak performance, then lift.

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>>39621367
Thanks for these posts. I'm considering starting calisthenics and I think I still will, even if the results "take longer".

However, I'm not convinced that the results are related to the type of exercise and not the rep count?

>You can get a program like convict conditioning and make it 6x6 for more strength/muscle mass but if you wanna do that just go lift.
I don't buy this logic. What do you mean, just go lift? Aren't you still getting all the other benefits of doing calisthenics over lifting?

>>39617587
Yeah, boulderers and aggressive climbers will tend to be bulkier than lead climbers for sure, but most high level boulderers I know who use that style of climbing will cross-train

>>39621485
Partially, yes. If you look into convict conditioning, it is intended to be high rep (basically, conditioning not building muscle mass).
My thoughts writing this were that, since your goal is to build muscle mass, why not lift instead? You will have "better" results (more muscle mass gain).
It is obviously better for your body to do the 6x6 convict conditioning thing than lift. BUT, since your goal is muscle mass, I suggested going with your goal. Results give confidence and confidence gives more results. I hope you understand what I'm saying.

If you want to build muscle and look better but also do it in a safer, healthier way with the calisthenic benefits, then do it.

I guess you're right about that, I was being kind of absolute not thinking of the middle ground.

Yeah, by all means follow the progression in CC, make it 6x6 and maybe ramp it up to 4x30 (for ab exercises) and 3x15-25 (for pushups etc.) during the month before you move to the next exercise in the progression.
It's actually a very easy to read and follow book as far as fitness ones go.

>why are there no threads about calisthenics?
>here's a picture of a guy who did calisthenics
>he took 3 years to gain 15lbs of muscle
>why are there no threads about calisthenics?

>>39614876
Been waiting for one of these threads for months now, ty OP.

>>39621558
Thanks for the tips

>>39616189
Average lurker here, you can actually learn stuff here, ok back to lurking, still have to finish this thread.

i've been trying to merge lifting and calisthenics but i have no idea how to effectively program the two. i just can't envision how to train for shit like levers, L-sit variations, handstands etc while also progressing the compounds.

if someone could help me out on this i'd be very grateful.

>>39622116
Why didn't you make one yourself?

>>39622232
The trick is to find a balance between strength. bodyweight, and balance. If you weigh a lot then naturally you will have problems maneuvering your body in calisthenics.

>>39614876
Bump

>>39621560
He has more muscle than you could ever hope to achieve, DYEL.