Why is /fit/ so anit-bread?

i fucking love bread

Me too, tried living without bread and I was miserable. Fuck it it if slows down my weight loss.

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Empty calories and shitty starches

Is it true that American bread has added sugar?

>>39525967
only acceptable bread in my book is whole wheat. everything else is trash

I only eat rye bread

>>39525984
the carbs tho

>>39525984
>Empty calories and shitty starches
Worse than pasta how?
Worse than rice how?
Worse than oats how?

Hard mode: Brown bread.

>>39525967
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zwO855GU01Q

Since i'm ill i like to have 5 pieces of brown bread with vegetable broth. It's fuckin good man, probs around 500-600kcals

>>39525967
>>39526030
>brown, rye, whole wheat fine
>white bread is dog shit

>>39525979
Pretty much this.

>>39526030
you really shouldn't be eating ANY of those besides oats

I eat balls of white bread rolled in Tang to clog up my tract when I need to get extra scale gainz

>>39525967
i just have no room for carbs.

i have only eaten meat and vegetables for 4 weeks now.

i lost 1.5kg this week when i thought it would be more.

I am probably gonna start running to lose another kg each week. just dont know if i should do it after my workouts or on rest days.

>>39526114
Fucking this

People shit all over keto until they lose like 2kg the minute they give it a try and cut out all those shitty carbs

>>39526061
>you really shouldn't be eating ANY of those besides oats
Explain.

>>39526154
welp its not really because of keto. maybe it is but i am not sure.

i was just saying that when i try to keep my calories at 1k or lower on average i just have 0 room for any carbs. especially when i want to eat some tastier meat now and then like steak and quarterlegs.

>>39526162
Yada yada yada compete profile yada yada horse food

>>39525984
Just active the bread during the night

>>39526574
>Yada yada yada compete profile yada yada horse food
Go on? Particularly on the "compete profile" point, you're an omnivore, and should fucking eat like one, you've got to get your micros somehow.

>>39526601
>Just active the bread during the night
kek, I've not seen that one in a while.

I nearly fucking died in a college chemistry class once, "activated charcoal" is actually a thing.

the bread that I mostly eat has:
>whole grain rye
>water
>yeast
>salt

>>39527021
Seriously, what the fuck is rye? /fit/ is the only place that I've even heard of it.

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brehs

>>39527134
It's just another grain crop, like wheat, oats and barley

In all seriousness, I think the biggest issue with our sticky is that it doesn't explain how to compare food.

/fit/ will tell me that bread isn't as good as other carbs, but I've got no clue why. I honestly couldn't tell you why bread is any better or worse for you than simple white sugar, never mine something more agreeable like oats.

>>39527134
common bread in northern Europe

>>39525979
If you're not enjoying life youve gotta ask what you're getting fit for.

>>39525967
Bread is fucking awesome. I never did anything aside from macro counting and haven't had any problems with cutting or bulking and gaining strength before. Only been lifting for 8 months though, so what do I know.

>>39527584
It's not the carbs that is the difference. It's the other macros and micros. Wonderbread is basically pure carbs and various additives, virtually no protein, fat, or micros that are actually good for you. Same with sugar. Oats has more protein and better micros, so it's better than standard white bread.

one important thing about understanding /fit/ is that most people here were fat before working out. Thus a lot of the advice here is directed more towards losing weight than gaining it

>>39527837
This.
As long as you're getting your micros and fiber from other sources there is literally no downside to eating "empty calories". If you like it and it doesn't throw off the rest of your nutrition, fucking eat it.

>>39525988
Pretty much

>>39525988
>>39527889
AFAIK no, but they use very simple starches that already get broken down to sugar by just your saliva so it's a little sweet when you eat it.

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>>39525967

At breakfast, sometimes I toast 2 slices of brown bread and then I put scrambled eggs and avocados over it.

It is a champion's breakfast, OP.

I eat a 500g loaf of wholegrain a day and I dont give a fuck.

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Crewfag here to shed some light.

Generally, the aerobic an activity, the more your body is likely to burn carbohydrates as a fuel source than burning fat. Running, rowing, and I think swimming are examples, utilizing a high amount of carb consumption to keep going. Less aerobic activity, like lifting is better for more of a fat burn. thats why it's easier to burn more fat with a higher muscle mass. The least aerobic activity, walking is said to burn a lot of fat, although it would take a fuckload of time.

I use white bread as preworkout for rowing. Processed carbs metabolise quickly (half hour or so) and allows for a steady burn. Whole weat is better for a consistent fuel source because it's longer to digest.

>inb4 autisimo
>tldr white bread is a good pre workout for cardio, lifting doesn't require bread

>>39528425

You're a fucking idiot. Your body uses glycogeb to restore blood sugar before body fat regardless of exercise. If you don't finish a lifting session before your glycogen depletes, your recovery time will shoot through the roof. This is ehy you always run after lifting and not the other way around

>>39528425
U know nothing about nutrition

>>39528450
>believing anything on Canadian geese appreciation forum

That's your problem, bud.

>>39526479
>taking diet advice from people with an eating disorder

Do not listen to this poster

>>39525967
>had a shitflinging thread about keto yesterday, where somewhat higher educated participated in
>today a thread about bread

the best kinds of shitposters are actually academics, who disagree on the most subtle of things.

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>>39525988
Yes. I dated a kiwi chick and the biggest thing she couldn't get over was how much sugar was in our bread bf our peanut butter.

Sidenote: she had no idea what 4chan was but she was a massive shitposter. The kiwi/aussie stereotype is true.

>>39528470

This info I got from the medabolics module of my biomedical science program

Any food invented by humans is pretty crappy
It's convenient, that's all

It packs empty calories, so as long as you don't eat bread instead of your fruit and vegetables, you are fine

The problem comes from eating sandwiches all day, and shit like that, something that is easier to do, and pretty tasty but bad for your health, as you are missing lots of vitamins and minerals

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>almost as old as man
I always see this argument on here

>Muh paleo diet
>Humanity has been eating this for ages it's healthy
>Muh caveman blueprint

Mankind has been eating bread for thousands of years, but not the commercially produced sugar laden bullshit we mass produce today. It was as little as 30% grain and typically cultured for most of our history.

The same is true of almost all commercial foods. It's the reason cultured foods are still at the top of just about every nutritional list.

>>39526030
White pasta is empty starchy trash
White rice is mostly a waste of calories
Oats and brown rice are fine

Learn the basics of nutrition before talking out of your shitter

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>not eating god tier bread

Fucking plebs

So, if the only argument against bread (both white and brown) is that it's empty calories, what's wrong with just plain old white sugar? Provided that the rest of your macros are in check.

>>39525967
Is it bad? Depends on the individual.

Generally It bloats, nutritionally it is not great but not terrible either, high in fibre, high in calories and starchy carbs.

If your goal is to cut then bread is a pretty shitty choice and a no brainer to remove. However if your a hungry skeleton or looking to 4K cal bulk then adding it is not going to harm you that much, providing that you don't make bread the staple part of that diet.

I remember my first Madcow cycle I was eating near 4K cals a day, working 10-12 hr shitty retail shifts with only 1 short break, I used to stuff down almost 2K cals worth of peanut butter sandwiches. I can tell you it did me wonders.

TL;DR There are better choices but it won't give you cancer.

Im a fat guy been big most of my life. All my fit friends tell me that bread is bad for me. I dont think that its. Like all things moderation is the way to go. . I love bread always will but it is filled with empty cals just like beer.

>>39525984
>and shitty starches
What does this even mean?

>>39529403
my mom eats that, shit's like cardboard

>>39526061
I'll do you one better and starve to death dumb bitch

>>39529991
Still living with your mother

>Never gonna make it

>>39529991
>he cares about taste

Maybe dont eat shitty sugary jew white bread. The dark brown bread I eat literary has 12 grams of protein per 100 gram plus like 40g carbs.

Step up your fucking game /fit/

>>39529683
>Be fat
>Have fit friends
>They tell you not to eat bread
>entire thread is telling you bread is shit
>You Disagree
U wot m8?

>>39530362
New here?

>>39528425
>aerobic activity burns glycogen
>anaerobic activity burns fat

It's the other way around, bud. But at least you tried.

>>39529683
>moderation is the way to go

So why don't you practice the shit you preach, you fucking fatass?

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>>39530278
>I have transcended above my primitive need for tasty food
>A simple caveman such as yourself couldn't possibly attempt such a feat

>>39531173
>never going to make it

>>39531173
Beard with no stache looks bad 100% of the times, why do people keep doing it?

>>39525984
Fuck, this image is almost porn to me :(

>>39525988
Yes. Most US food has sugar, corn syrup, or some sugar substitute.

>>39529492
Nothing I eat 4000 cals average 1200 in chocolate

>>39531927

Why

>>39529403
I was just about to post this

My girlfriend from Portland introduced me to this bread a few months ago and now I eat a loaf of it every few days. It's the only bread I eat now. Absolutely amazing.

>>39529991
don't listen to this guy. He's a dumb faggot

>>39529403
I wish this shit wasnt so spensive. I pick it up everytime my store has a deal on it. Powerseed 4 pres

>>39527206
>breds
ftfy

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>>39525967
>tfw blew a date because I didn't wanna eat empty carbs