/Fraud/ Steroid General

>>39498684
First!

Can anyone help me here? I've started doing research on the subject, but it's been hard as fuck to find good scientific articles and studies.

The first step would be to choose one steroid and, based on that, plan the cycle and what to stack with it, right? If so, how do I do that?

I decided to do it based on muscle memory. Just one cycle, maybe cruising for another then a proper pct to keep the muscle I get. Not planning at all to go past that. Based on that I'm considering tren. Is there a flaw in that logic?

>>39498679 was made first
it's also a better OP because it's not some retard hijacking the OP to make a real post sucking masT's dick

abandon this thread

>>39498679
>>39498679
>>39498679
>>39498679

>>39498713
>p-please use my thread
autism

>>39498707

Yes. There is a huge flaw. Tren is absolutly unsuitable for a first cycle.

Your first cycle should be a small dose of Test E, not exceeding 500mg

Tren is some heavy heavy shit and the mental sides are extreme, depending on the person.

Personally, I had the mental sides of Tren in abundance before I even hopped on gear. So for the one cycle I used Tren, I decided never to use it again because I was a danger to myself and others.

The 'muscle memory' you are speaking of, TEst E will provide for you.

>>39498723
that wasn't me retard i actually like masT

>>39498713
in the bin with it

this is the OFFICIAL fraud thread.

for proof await the toddler posts by masT, Grandpa making everyone WOKE AS FUCK, jerry trying to convince everyone he isn't gay and ESTP finally defending her degenerate ways.

wait for it

>>39498731
>not exceeding 500mg
How do you not just jam'a'gram for them easy gains? C'mon now.

>>39498731
Isn't that too conservative? I mean... It's a one time thing, I wanted to do it properly.

I mean, sides are extreme, but for what I can see, so are the gains, no?

>tfw dnp turning everything yellow
my piss is yellow, my cum is yellow, my sweat is yellow and my ear wax is yellow.

>>39498780
yes, this is normal.

careful though, it stains a lot. and permanently.

>>39498745
>jam'a'gram
kek

>>39498731
>>39498767

Another thing, if you can help me. About the efficiency of PCT stuff, is there a considerable difference? Like... is it worth to spend more on any of them?

What about starting with test e, then cruising to decide what to go for next? Is that a bad idea?

>>39498767

>so are the gains

Tren is widely overused. Trens real strength is that it allows you to hit that super low dry 'shrink wrapped' look.

Tren is best used before comps. Before you get on the stage.

The reason posters here use it so frequently is because they crave the mental sides of tren. Not because it's a good compound for them and their goals, or because it's safe.

Furthermore- Speaking of muscle memory. Tren will give you brain memory. Tren use, even one time, permently changed how my brain functioned.

Tren is for life man.

Be aware that tren makes you paranoid, aggressive, narcissistic, and gives you delusions of grandeur .

You won't trust anyone and you will want to murder every man you see so you can rape every female you see uncontested.

Everyone talks up Tren, but depending on the person, it can be very, very harmful.

Obviously I am not as MENTALLY ILL since I got off the tren, but I am not the same as before I ever took it.

>isn't that conversvative.

No. 250mg is conservative. This is your endocrine system we are talking about here, not a science experiment.

Don't be an idiot

>>39498810
Tren is good for the mentality and most importantly the gains. Tren is great just very unhealthy

>>39498810
this guy is a natty cuck

never used any aas in his life, especially not tren

I guarantee it

>>39498810
agree with some things, well put.

>>39498826
most of what he said is true, especially regarding the mental sides, so who cares even if he is?

it permanently changed me as well, mentally.

i don't agree that it should only be used to get "dry" or whatever though, the gains are beyond any other compound by far

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>>39498745
>jam'a'gram

>>39498835
permenantly how??????
detail explain pls

>>39498835
most of what he said is overblown r/steroids typical memery

tren is the most memed compound on the internet, by far. this guy got tricked by the memes. so did you, most likely.

MasT is extremely insecure.

He won't compete because as soon as he does, we will figure out his true identity.


And he absolutely does not want that to happen.


Thus, he will no compete.

Crazy that he is willing to spend loads of money and sacrifice is health for drugs for literally nothing other than to shitpost on an anime forum to a couple hundred random guys about how he is a god.


It's honestly pathetic

>>39498844
>incoming toddler response

THE PROPHECY WAS TRUE

>>39498826

Why would you guarantee stuff you can't prove? That doesn't do well for your credibility

>>39498835

Like any compound you have to weigh the risk and the reward.

Part of what I was alluding too is that it makes little sense to take such a nasty compound, nasty for your mental state, nasty for your health unless you are competing. And even then, use it to reach a comp ready state.

>b-but you took it and you're no where near comp ready you dyel bitch

Everyone makes mistakes. Does not mean I want others to make them.

>do as I say not as I do

>>39498854
post a pic of any kind of gear you have laying around at home

anything, a vial, a box of oral, hell even anciliaries

you won't, because you're a memeing natty cuck

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>>39498854
>anons credibility

>>39498810
>>39498835
Alright. Thanks.

You guys are probably right. Test will likely be enough for me, and even if it isn't I can just cruise and blast again before closing it up with PCT, right?

>>39498870
yeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeah

>>39498871
wtf whyd it repeat my post so many times

>>39498871
>>39498878

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ulQgfqkvLY

>>39498842
have you even fucking used it? it's not a meme retard, you are probably just too much of a pussy to use such a "harsh" and "dangerous" compound

>>39498841

i am keeping a lot of the mental boosts you get during tren, even after tren use, and it's been ~2-3 months since I last came off

WHAT FUCKING MENTAL BOOSTS/PERMANENT CHANGES COME FROM TREN SOMEONE ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!

>>39498893
I have actually used it unlike you and that other retard, which is why I can tell you you are typical retarded internet posters about tren.

>omg tren made me want to rape every girl around me and beat every guy into a pulp and I became a COOL ALPHA CHAD BADASS who doesn't give a fuck about anyone
>also pheromones brah, banging 3 different 10/10s a day

no

>>39498893
> "boosts"

You spelled side effects wrong.

>>39498901
just google tren mental effects

you keep them permanently when coming off, but they are much more intense while on

>>39498893
you couldn't have avoided the question harder without leaving the country

what permenant changes occur on/after tren use? how are they a boost?

>>39498916
>cant answer a question about what its like to actually be ON tren
>claims to have done tren

such a natty meme cuckold

>>39498919
google. tren. mental. effects.

>>39498909
maybe you're just naturally a little bitch and not even tren can save you

>>39498860
I will extend this post to >>39498893 also

fuck me I hate neo-/fraud/

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>>39498927
>has to tell others to google the same stuff he read in order to meme this thread up
>can't grasp he is being tested to check if he has ever done the actual substance

You've just BTFO yourself.

Congratulations.

when did /fraud/ get invaded by all these natties pretending to roid offering advice? what is cool about pretending to roid? what the fuck happened to this general?

>>39498941
ok i tasted it a few times and it tastes like pepper

i already get irritated at stupid shit while off tren. while on it i get all consuming urges to beat the shit out of anyone that pisses me off. one time a bee flew in my face and i tried to punch it because it pissed me off so bad.

it gives me bad lower abdominal bloat stemming from digestion issues, gives me acid reflux, didnt really get night sweats too bad

forearms would get pumped even just by clenching my fists a few times

>>39498962
>bad lower abdominal bloat
as in my lower abdominal area sticks out more, not water retention

get fucked

REMINDER:
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Real men don't use steroids.

>>39498962
>just regurgitating things he has googled
>cant produce a single shred of evidence

sure thing there faggot

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>>39498985

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>>39498985
Real men fuvk traps

>>39498985

REMINDER:
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Real men don't get worked up over what other guys do that has no effect on their own lives.

Unless... you feel inferior?

>>39498990
alright now im just being trolled

kill urself

>>39498860
>>39498929
still standing

>>39498997
neo-/fraud/ shitposting scum

>>39498992
there is nothing gay about liking traps. if you (like me) are attracted to the feminine features, it is completely heterosexual. yes, they have penises, but who doesnt? you can relate to what they are feeling better when they masturbate because you can do it the same way, thus, its more enjoyable to watch. a lot of people think theyre men in makeup and wigs, but they're not, theyre women with penises and the perfect feminine features that i am attracted to. obviously no one that likes traps is not turned on by the actual penis, but what is around it.

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>>39499025

>>39499025
>but who doesnt

Got me good, top kek

>>39499025
>yes, they have penises, but who doesnt?
lmao

>>39498997
>damage controlling with "trolling" because he KNOWS he has NO EVIDENCE of him ever doing tren

you are full of shit and you know it, fuck off faggot wannabe

>>39499025
>>39499052

cant tell if this guy is an autistic angsty natty or what

i'm doing PSMF and 500 dnp but i am seeing 0 results, wtf is this? shouldn't i be at like a 2500-3000 deficit? beyond the initial water drop I am barely losing anything at all

I got another question about dosing. Say 250mg/week is a conservative and 500mg is the standard dosage. How do I compare that to higher dosages? Are there any decent studies comparing them?

>>39499088
compare them in regards to what

>>39498992
post more

>>39499092
Risk/reward

>>39499007
40 minutes later, original guy ran away, 2nd guy is conveniently ignoring the posts

just as expected.

call out retarded posters when they make retarded posts, don't let natties get away with shitting up our general.

good night.

>>39499064
>digging your hole deeper

You know what would be easier than arguing with a "troll"?

Producing one scrap of evidence, a needle, a vial, literally anything.

The more you talk the more its obvious you have no experience.

:)

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>>39499101
That's a real girl, this isn't

>>39498707
>First steroid

First steroid is test, because you should at least have a low test dose if using any other steroids.

Unless you're going to use trest, that you use without test and without other aromatising steroids.

500mg test E isn't a small dose, but a good recommended dose when using test on it's own.

>>39498810
I'm the same as before Tren, Tren didn't give me mental sides desu, just some sweats, and ridiculous libido that was far too distracting. And the fucking pip.

>>39498870
If you want a more powerful steroid the second time round I would use trest. Keep the estrogen on lock down though.

tfw i can both cut and bulk easily as hell, because i am both a former ~185lbs obeast and a former anorexic at 122-123lbs

feels mentally ill man

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what is gay about fucking this

>>39499470
It's twice as gay because you try to hide it

>>39499345
What about test e + deca + dbol + AI?

>>39499456
Unless you're a woman or 5"2 185 is no way obese

>>39499456
>185 lbs
>beast

>>39499485
Fine as long as you're not planning to come off once you finish the deca, deca takes a long time to clear, so you should cruise or use other compounds after you finish the deca for some time at least.

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So I'm 23 and have test levels of 509 and free test of 66.8. I am being treated currently for a virus induced hypothyroidism. My doctor believes my test levels will be elevated when I recover. This being said, are my current levels bad?

>>39499470
there is nothing gay about liking traps. if you (like me) are attracted to the feminine features, it is completely heterosexual. yes, they have penises, but who doesnt? you can relate to what they are feeling better when they masturbate because you can do it the same way, thus, its more enjoyable to watch. a lot of people think theyre men in makeup and wigs, but they're not, theyre women with penises and the perfect feminine features that i am attracted to. obviously no one that likes traps is not turned on by the actual penis, but what is around it

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>>39499482
its literally not gay
hot feminine figure

so the guy looking thing here is an ftm
are you saying it wouldn't be gay to be attracted to that?
you closet homo


>>39499500
theyre lowish but not awful

>>39499507
yeah exactly
its a girl without being a scary girl
win/win

>>39499490
i probably had less than 120lbs of muscle mass

>>39499525
They're both gay you fag.

Why are you so desperate to like gay shit but convince everyone on a Mongol autism awareness board that you're straight and definitely not gay?

>>39499497
Right. I'm thinking 16 weeks of test e and 14 of deca, with maybe dbol on the first 6.

I'm really unsure about dosage, though. What are the risks of a high dosage like 800mg/wk test e, 600mg/wk deca and 60mg/day dbol?

And what about including HCG?

>>39499565
>What are the risks
google

>>39499565
The risks are high estrogen, and gyno symptoms, and along with the high estrogen, high blood pressure.

It depends if you're susceptible to estrogen sides or not, I kinda am. Much more than androgen sides. Tren doesn't give me much sides, but I get sore nips and high blood pressure if I don't keep estrogen in check, eg: 20mg/day dbol did it to me.


On trest I'll be keeping estrogen in lock down.

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>>39499540
those cant both be gay for the same reason though
if its gay because it was a guy, then the ftm wouldmt be gay
if that was gay because it is now masculine, the mtf wouldnt be gay

ya'll fools are being ignant

>>39499642
>dodging the question

They're both gay for the same reason. The trap is doubly gay is all.

The "man" isn't merely a tomboy. She wont let you treat her like a woman, has a deepened voice, facial hair, and is injecting test.

>>39499593

methyloestrogen =\= oestrogen

>>39499660
How are they both gay
If its because of what they used to be, then one is
If its what they currently are, the other is
If its the genitals, only one is

>>39499671
Yeah, the effects are stronger than estrogen. Need to control that shit.

>>39499677
One is a man who either wishes they were a woman or actually believes they are a woman, they are emulating a woman, but is actually not. That's gay.


It's okay if you're gay Jerry, this outcome is inevitable staying on tren too long.


The other is a vice versa, even if you get past the physique, the deepened voice, the body hair, the test levels of a man - in order to do them they'll have you treat them as if they were a man, and not a woman, and maybe they'll be the one wanting to do you not the other way around.

That's gay.


I do not know why you're so desperate to convince everyone that you're straight as an arrow, because this shit sure ain't straight.

>>39499707
Thats pretty good
But then theyre both gay for females too
So the only non gay couple would be mtfxtfm *and cis, obviously

There is literally nothing gay about putting on womens panties, a dress, and watching a mtf fuck a guy to get off
Literally nothing

Thoughts on weighted ab workouts? I want my abs to still be somewhat visible not being at single digit BF, and I always did unweighted and they never popped.

Would this widen my waist if I were to stick to weighted rectus abdominus work and unweighted direct oblique work? Or is it all just genetics

>>39499593
I thought AI would deal with the estrogen problem.

>>39499745
Depends on how much conversion it stops, methylestrogen is strong and it wont bind to SHBG, if you're sensitive you may need more or stronger AI like letro, or use a serm in conjuction with asin dose to protect your titties.

That's probably what I'll do (use a serm in conjunction).

>>39499725
>Literally nothing

Let me talk to Jerry now, I know that's the Tren talking.

>>39499766
I'm considering trying to get my hands on trest base and trying to make trest phenylprop, butyrate or hexanoate. More stable levels. Butyrate should be g2g for E3D (I know there were issues making cyp and enan esters of trest).

Decanoate is too long for trest.

>>39499500
My levels were 190-270 natty, hell my gains were fuckin obscene natty as well. Your levels are fine unless you have some low T signs. For example I had 0 libido and dick soft like yo mammy's breast. Test fixed all that shit and my depression, I miss the 0 libido tho, girls are time consuming.

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One guess as to what I've been up to.

Any europeans here used /tor/ to order before? Ever had any issues with customs?

Norwaybros would be the most appreciated

>>39499971
Falling into the trap of a mixed race she devil and drowning in her feminine juices

KYS you baka

>>39499971
Rubbing your cunt while on the rag?

It's a fitness board, not a fetish board

posting this for Grandpa because he made me WOKE AF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbM6WbUw7Bs&feature=youtu.be

>>39500162
the fuck am i watching legit the strangest thing to come out of japan yet

>>39500233
never seen their lewd gameshows huh

http://www.voyeurstyle.com/watch/2045/japanese-girl-rides-dildo-machine-race-cars/

Alright so instead of jumping on TRT, what about taking Clomid instead?

What are the side effects? How much improvement can I expect?

How long do I have to take it? Do the effects stay after stopping?

t. low test male at around 350 total

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>>39500162
why the cuck is japan so fucking weird.

I always get headaches when i watch shit like this.

>>39501009
kys

>>39501009
>What are the side effects?
being an emotional wreck, fucking up your eyesight, among other things
>How much improvement can I expect?
depends on whether you have primary or secondary hypogonadism, but no miracles either way
>How long do I have to take it?
forever
>Do the effects stay after stopping?
no

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>>39501057
>improvment

increasing your levels for 200 ng/dl isnt gonna do shit

let it be 400 ng/dl, still not gonna do shit.

Unless i underestimate and clomid bumps you up to 1200 ng/dl.

Even then it would only be mediocre

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>>39495630
>Hey guys, so what's the best way to dose MK using suspension/solution?
39ml of everclear will completely dissolve 1 gram of memek677. You may have to heat it for 30 seconds in the microwave.


Sup degenerates? Happy turkey day!

>>39501057

Thanks for the reply, I was reading this earlier, which is why I brought up Clomid

http://jeffreydachmd.com/clomid-for-low-testosterone-part-one/

"Treatment with Clomid (clomiphene 25 mg tablet daily) was started. Six weeks later, the patient reported “feeling like my old self” with improved energy, libido and mood. Repeat labs 6 weeks after starting the Clomid showed testosterone levels of 832 ng/dl, and LH and FSH had increased as well. Serum estrogen was quite high at 72 pg/ml. Anastrazole was added to the treatment program with follow up normalization of estrogen levels."

>Previous blood had him at 300 ng/dl, and clomid (apperantly) brought him up to 832 ng/dl

"Previous medical doctor’s lab studies showed low testosterone levels, all below 300 ng/dl, and low FSH and LH levels as well."

What do you think about this?

>>39501106
you need to have low gonadotropins to benefit from clomid in the first place and it has a lot of side effects
but if staying 100% fertile is more important than gains and general well being, by all means, go for it
>>39501089
its not going to do shit for someone who isnt low test but going from very low to kinda low-midrange is a huge step

>>39499971
Enjoying those first sips.

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>>39501176
Yeah i know.

But its a huge step, compared to what you were before.

If a slave is set free and starts working an 9-5hr job that gets him 10$/hr is a huge fucking step.

And then he will still be a low life compared to others.

He looked shit before, and on clomid he will look less shit, but still shit.

Just saying.

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>>39501096
>everclear in the microwave

>>39498844
Thats what a narcisstic yet very insecure little beta manlet does

>>39499971
disgusting

>>39501089
left is meh right will do what I tell her to do in bed, left certainly won´t

fit as always

>>39501249
its more than just body composition, though
low test really fucks up your energy and general well being

Me and a friend are starting a cycle and saw this link and sounds promising.
http://johndoebodybuilding.com/the-1-vial-steroid-cycle-for-beginners/

Basically it's a pyramid of test for 8 weeks then clomid for 2 weeks once you get off. Just the dosing is rather bad in the link, I would really enjoy if someone could give someone new to steroids a proper dosing chart for 8 weeks with 1 vial of test 200mg/ml I have 8 syringes

test

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>>39501257
Lol is that pic for real? I've done it a million times but only for 30 seconds at a time. Like it barely gets warm.

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>>39501331

>200€ for a single vial

>50€ for needles

>an 8 week cycle

>clomid for 2 weeks

>doesnt even state dosages

pls just go to reddit Steroids and check the wiki, this is the only thing i am going to tell you

>>39501374
WHere are you getting back these numbers? He even states that those prices are ridiculously high.

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>>39499779
what would the sides look like with trest decanoate ?

>>39501373
I'm kidding, I've done it myself many times, but I stopped because anything that precipitates out of solution tends to get stuck on the walls/droppers in my bottles.

>>39498810

Is it fine to use tren if i already have these? Like the existence of other people already irks me because if i'm the perfect specimen then there's no need to have other models and if im not then thats insulting

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>tfw natural

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>>39501574

mirin senpai

>>39501579
you look like a barrel with weird quads, congrats on being strong and ugly I guess

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>>39501589
how can you not realize that i posted a pic of an ugly body to make fun of the natty above me.

logic senpai, try it

>>39501579

mirin waist to shoulder ratio

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Also Lotus: looking good in that picture. Mirin.

>>39498844
But is at least secure enough to post pictures, while anon hides behinds his keyboard posting NO PICS because he's secure about himself. KEK, GET A GRIP FAGGOT I AM KING AND DYELS WILL ALWAYS BE JELLY ON MY GREATNESS.

Actually i think i have some ancient god genetics. i dunno, but that's how it really feels. No kidding.

>butt he has muscles, thus he has to compete
>There can't be no other purpose than that, because my small dyel brain is not capable of nuanced thinking
>MUH LOGIC
LMAO

You think i do all this for some STUPID DULL trophy. LMAO.I do it all for myself, i keep all the good looks to myself.

BE HAPPY WITH YOURSELF and let nobody stop you from dreaming from that you want to be; yourself.

>>39501331
this is so fucking retarded

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manager complimented me again. 3 times in a row he said he was happy that he hired me

KEKEKEKEE. GET MAD ON MY GREATNESS FAGGOTSS!!

WILL BE A BOSS IN 5-6 YEARS

SO THEN I WILL BE:

BIGGER
BETTER
MORE MONEY

>>39502098
what do you do for work?
will you fuck my boipucci?

>>39502098
Pursuing the JM lyfe

proud of u son

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>>39502105
garbage collector. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF.

I started from the bottom and now I AM HERE with all the alpha males.

>>39502118
JM was bald and ugly. fucking bald black transsexual woman. He might killed himself, at least that is what i hope for him.

You can achieve anything if you want to. Just do it, DO IT

>>39498810
Know people who seemed perfectly fine on tren.

Tried tren myself. Didn't quite notice much in terms of mental state change... But my gf was calling me out all the time on acting paranoid... I didn't notice though until I came off (the first time)

Seeing (average or above) couples made me rage so hard even though I was in a relationship... Every time I seen a couple I wanted to beat the shit out of the guy and steal his girl... But I didn't have the mental energy to believe I could do it. I felt so depressed about it all. Constantly trying to figure out if I could kill this guy or that guy.

Each time I've re-used tren since I feel much better. I have the same thoughts but less often and less intense.. Probably because I feel like I could/would do it easily if I acted upon the thoughts. It actually makes me feel good and powerful when the thoughts enter my mind... I try my best to catch eyes with any girl I see with a guy now and try to make the guy notice too. It's thrilling... But I don't have the ability to pull it off when I'm off the stuff.

I would say the mental sides are GOOD (minus the paranoia which seems more noticable to others than myself).. The only downfall is the lack of mental energy and daringness (?) when you come off.

Maybe there is a dosing issue with some people that cause them to have none of these sides though. I hear some people use MORE tren than test to reduce sides. Never tried that though but might be worth looking into for some.

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>>39499025
Thats a 600kg diddy at the mental gymnastics lifting club.

Take all the dicks and make them cum good but accept, anon, that u r a fag.

Is there a way to do a cycle if I have to fly every 2 weeks? I work in another country 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off. But most test esters need to be pinned minimum once per week right?

Or is it possible to bring the gear with me on the plane?

>>39502153
i feel bad for jm

Amyone care to give some cycle advice, for 3rd cycle

Week 1-16 500mg Test E /w
Week 1-14 500mg EQ /w
Week 1-4 40mg Dbol ed

Injecting twice a week for stability
Starting of at 0.5 mg Adex eod, has worked in the past, extra + nolva on hand in case
HCG 500ie biweekly, for balls. Found it keep my my mood and libido up better during last cycle, bonus of larger loads
Nolva for PCT, 4 weeks.

First time with EQ, wanted to include it to help w joints mainly and if possible increase appetite. Was considering Decca, but from what I've gathered the HPTA shutdown etc. would be much worse.

Please just rip my idea apart lads

>>39502164
They may seem "perfectly fine", but they aren't necessarily fine inside at all.

When I was running tren I was working in care. Never once even showed a single sign of rage, and was well loved by my clients and colleagues. In my monthly reviews I was regularly called the kindest and calmest guy around, had the longest temper by a long shot, once my manager even used the word saintlike. I was lucky as I didn't display rage symptoms.

But inside I was constantly fucking paranoid, about everything. I developed obsessive feelings over every girl I fucked and became incredibly overconfident and delusional, as was said, in many ways, all to my detriment. Ultimately the paranoia led to me having a nervous breakdown at the end of a 75 hour working week after all my colleagues had left for the day.

I love tren, but I'd never run it again. It's good, but it's too much.

>>39502220
>>39502220
Forgot to mention that I was running just under a gram a week too, alongside a gram of test per week

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This faggot NPC in The Old Republic just tried to tell me what a Cathar is.

I've been blasting and cruising for about 3-4 years now. Currently cruising on 300mg and plan to do so for the next 4 months... I plan on never returning to natty mode because I just don't want to go through the PCT process again. I am happy with a life of TRT as I actually look forward to pinning day and I'm not exactly young anyway.

But anyway. Here's my issue and question. My son tore up my hand pretty good while I was teaching up how to saw wood. I can't really inject with it for while and I can't inject with my left hand for shit... I don't want my testosterone tank to be empty while I also can't even lift while it is healing. And I don't want to take any orals because I like to drink and don't want to spend money on those "cycle support" tablets.

I found a transdermal hormone called 11-ketotestosterone. It seems much cheaper than any transdermal form of real test I can find and I can also get it a lot faster.

Would this do as a "base" to replace testosterone for 2-3 weeks until I can at least use my thumb again?

I know it doesn't convert to estrogen, which is a bad thing with no test.. but I guess it's no big deal for a short time period. But what other concerns are there? Does anyone have experience with this or know of a reason I should just pay the extra and get the test gel stuff instead for this short time period?

All I care about is trying to maintain as much mass as possible until I can continue injecting again.


If there is a big problem with this idea, then I can probably convince my wife to inject me. But I promised her years ago I wouldn't involve her in the process because she doesn't want to know or see it happening.

Thanks guys. Dunno if I'll just get shot down and told I'm an idiot or not, but I appreciate any help given.

>>39502039
Thanks, looking masSive! Competition isn't all what it's cracked up to be. Getting bigger is much more difficult with weight fluctuations, training, and diet requirements.

I have a buddy who used to compete, got his pro card and all, we were training for his next show then let it out how he didn't want to do it anymore and how it was all politics and not really in line with his fitness goals (getting bigger at a certain bf%) so he stopped.

Lots of things factor into competing, much more than the body and it wouldn't be worth selling out personality wise just to win a competition. If you aren't good for the federation from a branding standpoint there is a small chance you will take home that trophy.

Another guy I know who competed took second all because he had no social media presence and the federation wanted somebody who was going to spam the victory. All this guy cared about was training and looking the best, the experience completely turned him off competing.

All in all these combined with other factors are reasons I am always on the fence about competing and understand why others with great physiques don't feel the need to step on the stage.

Some would say the ultimate insecurity is stepping on stage, at that point you truly are seeking validation from third parties as to how satisfied you should be with your body and not staying true to your own aesthetic.

Having body-parts on a checklist doesn't always equal aesthetics, individually aesthetics vary widely, what look good on one, doesn't always look good on another.

>BE HAPPY WITH YOURSELF and let nobody stop you from dreaming from that you want to be; yourself
basically, actually, literally, this.

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>>39502164
>>39502220
Man, I must be lucky, I got 0 rage whatsoever, i'm sure a lot hornier than I've ever been which means I actually fuck like a normal person now. I'm never going to do tren again just because of the shortness of breath, feel like I ran a damn marathon post sex and i'm choking on the air. Also Tren is the first time i've ever noticed a tiny bit of gyno signs and the extra trensomnia didn't stack well with my already natural insomnia.

>>39502295
How fucked up is your hand? And also in what manner are you unable to pin with your left hand? Is it due to usually injecting in glutes?

I primarily inject in my quads, and found that I only use my one hand, but don't think It'd be hard to switch, as long as I take it slow and carefully. If you find it hard to aspirate with just one hand then you don't really need to for the time being, if you've ever pierced a vein then you'd recognise it anyways.

>>39502153
MasT,
is it ok to only use half or less of the vial if i dont want strech marks?

>>39502337
It looks much worse than it is. I'll be able to use it again fine in a few weeks.

About the left hand. I dunno what is is. I tried two days ago and jabbed it in the wrong spot first two attempts on quads. Then tried right delt and felt a strange pain that usually doesn't happen and just gave up because by this point there was blood on my fingertips from trying to wipe it off my leg.

You dont want to hear about trying to wipe my ass, lol.. Shit smeared across my ass cheek lmao.

>>39502039
mast you are the best person on this board

>>39502397
Well I'd say I'm not that experienced, hopefully someone else can give their thoughts.

But I guess you'd to fine with the 11-oxo, since it's just a few weeks. I presume you are using a long ester for the T right now, no? I would frontload when you are able to use your hand again, to get up the T levels faster

>>39502262
Happy sorry we massacred your population day.

>>39502577
By frontload do you mean injecting some prop for a couple of days first?

If so great idea thanks man.

>>39502465

yep

You can tell who's going to make it and who's going to die a dyel simply based on their attitude towards masT

for those improving themselves and their bodies MasT is an inspiration

for those that do nothing and have no aspirations of greatness they hate mast

because what MasT has achieved just reminds them they are inferior, they never seem themsevles as capable of achieving anything noteworthy

>>39502262
Have you started doing the thing yet?

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>>39502329
Yeah, i don't like that world. I like to watch bodybuilders, but for me it's no go. I would probably kill myself in the end if i would ever go into that world.

Pic related is absolute perfection bodybuilding wise. THE BBC WIN YET AGAIN.

But, no seriously, i might be trolling sometimes, but i really think that being happy with yourself is the most important thing in life.

BE YOU AND NOBODY ELSE. People are afraid to be themselves these days, you what I am saying.

>>39502584
Thanks, accepting online reparations transfers now.

>>39502631
Thing? Not sure what you mean, sounds like suspicious vaguery. Forward intelligence to fatlifts @ countermail.

>>39502592
Well I meant it as injecting double dosage for the first 2-3 injects, depending on ester and inject frequency. There's some math to it, to find the optimal, but it's hard to do it wrong really. Just in order to reach steadystate faster, to lessen time with lowered test.

But prop for the first while would also work, depending on your preferences

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>>39502671

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>>39502790
killary supporter detected

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>>39502874
Feel the Bern

>>39502899
commie scum.

Can I just say as an avid lurker this general is probably the highest quality and display of women on the internet

sup brahs
i have dorsiflexion ankle impingement (most likely) and the associated pain with it when im working on ankle mobility for squats

how can i fix my ankle? im asking ITT because the QTDDOT threads are full of downright mongoloids giving advice and you guyve been always helpful

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>>39502960
if i learned any thing from my shoulder imignment issue is that stretchning it out in the direction that hurts the most (based on natural movements obv) will easily and painfully get rid of a majority of its inmoblility.

however this is your ankle so good luck on stretching it out id get a tennis ball and massage the area it before stretching it out

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>ending day 2 of clenbuterol(80mcg)
>flexed a little too hard

OUCH! FUCK!!!!!

>>39502992
>dat pic
That was a good fap

>>39503097
was expecting a masT comment but i do agree buddy it was glorious faping material

>>39502039

Your overuse of caps lock, shaming others and lowercase i's when reffering to yourself reveal:

insecurity, narcissism and childlike behaviour

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>>39502939
We try.

>>39502909
At least he's not in bed with Russia like Trump & Co.

>>39503027
>day 2 of clenbuterol

who the hell still uses clen tho? Why even bother?

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>>39503196
>At least he's not in bed with Russia like Trump & Co.
Where did this fucking come from and how are people this fucking stupid? There is literally ZERO proof of Russia and Trump ever working together on anything. Meanwhile Hillary Clinton sells fucking weapons grade uranium to Russia but no one talks about that.
Turn off CNN you fucking sheep and go outside and open your fucking eyes.
Also fuck off from /fraud/ until you learn to think critically.

>>39503552
Chill fag no one here thinks critically

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>>39503669
I'm really on edge lmao. Quit smoking 2 days go. These are the hardest days. Agwvuwbseiejw!

>>39498684

>go to gym
>3 pm on east coast
>heh sorry we're closing at 3 today
>I was dealing with customers and BS all day this morning.
>thought the gym would at least he open until 6

Depressing man. Now my routine is all fucked and. Ruined my thanksgiving. The smug face on the idiot at the front desk too as he informed me they were closing

Distressed right now.

>>39503687

The hardest days are days 3-7.

Drink lots of water. Start chewing gum. Not even necessarily gum with nicotine in it.

Quitting smoking is easy and if you can't do it then you just don't have any willpower desu

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>>39503705
RIP in peas anon's gains. Better just go eat a whole pumpkin pie and cry yourself to sleep.

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>>39503716
>The hardest days are days 3-7.
Believe me I know. I actually think days 2 and 3 are the worst. It's all about how fast you can flush the nicotine aka how much water you drink.
>Drink lots of water. Start chewing gum.
Ya for sure. Been drinking tons of water and I already drink a lot. Gum isn't really an option because I'm fucking autistic with gum and always end up biting the ever living shit out of my cheek or lip. Seriously don't know wtf is wrong with me but I can't chew gum like a normal person lol.

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>>39503687
>tfw having a coffee and a smoke right now
glorious

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>>39502939
i have an entire folder with 10/10's


also, i can feel an uncomfortable feeling in my shoulder again on push days.

FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEE if i get an inflammation again im gonna go full zeezz, run tren and clen and visit a sauna everyday

pray for me because im the only good trip here

>>39503687
I have a friend who was smoking for years.

He managed to abstain for halph a year straight, and just started smoking out of the blue again, fucking facepalm.

Its like you have reached your goal/the finish line finally, and you turn around and walk in the opposite direction.

Any tips for appetite suppression while on DNP? I hear ephedrine helps- whats a good amount to take?

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>>39503824
fuck that shit, jsut eat you dipshit

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>>39503760
Lol ughhh I wish
>>39503763
>He managed to abstain for halph a year straight, and just started smoking out of the blue again, fucking facepalm.
I don't know why but it happens. I've quit 3 times before for 6 months 6 months and 2 years once. At least I just do the vape pen and not actual cigs. Haven't smoked real cigarettes in years.
Coincidentally I'm gonna quit drinking too since the two habits are extremely closely linked for me.
>>39503824
25mg every 4 hours tops. Probably would be fine with 25mg twice a day.

>>39503853
>jsut eat you dipshit
have... uhh... have you tried dnp? Even if you have an iron will you're going to spend the majority of your day thinking about food.

>>39503902
>I just do the vape pen

didn't they prove those are almost as harmful like a month ago? I guess you could just smoke flavored water but that kind of defeats the point.

>>39503763
>not redhead
>10/10
you know the drill
wheres natT when we need good taste in grills

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>>39503929
>didn't they prove those are almost as harmful like a month ago?
Not that I am aware of. The liquid you use in them has no carcinogens and no tar. So right there you have eliminated the two worst things about cigarettes.
Having smoked real cigarettes and then switching I promise you there is a huge difference in the way you feel. Basically doing cardio when smoking cigarettes is fucking awful. The vape pen is more like a minor handicap vs not smoking anything.
Plus I'm a jew and the vapes are like 1/5th the price of smokes lol.
There are a million reasons to vape vs smoke but since two of my closest irl friends quit smoking I figured fuck it.
At least for now. =P

>on dnp and psmf
>thanksgiving is today
>gonna binge my ass off

help

>>39503717

Actually super pissed. This is one day more of me being a little twink. Literally.

To make it worse it's one day less of my life that will spent as a big guy

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Haha, went into town for a haircut and shave today. Went to Wally's to pick up a few items afterward, down an aisle I pick something up and turn around and notice someone that seems to abruptly switch directions, walk out of my line of vision and disappear. I just smile and go about shopping, walking two minutes later and glance behind, she's about six feet off, seems to raise her hand on the first glance, I look forward then glance back again and she's ducking behind a large stack of products. I'm laughing by this point and just keep walking.

Advise what message.

>>39504070
WHO WAS IT

>>39504070
give her the d fats

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>>39504026
>psmf
>binge
Hope you really like turkey and vegetables
>>39504053
Lmao go find something to be thankful for instead of complaining
>>39504070
Breh shes clearly giving you the "please rape me in the bathroom in the back of the store by the layaway section that no one ever goes into" signs.
Missed your chance to get laid again...
You really gotta focus on grabbing life by the pussy ya know what I'm sayin?

>>39504107
If nothing better to say comes up, I'll message her joking about not knowing if we were avoiding each other.

Guise, has anyone ever had painful injections while doing test tren? I just had my shot and while injection it hurt as hell. Pinning done in quad and done the right way

>>39503196
fuck you shillary! go and do your spirit cooking somewhere else

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Hi. I'm taking my first steroid break! (test)
This is very painful! Feels like drug withdrawal. Because it is drug withdrawal!
Any tips on how to temporarily be able to function without using again?
I feel like 200 year old man!
Aa!

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>>39503976

>>39504152
take more test E until the pain goes away

>>39504107

>go find something to be thankful for

I have stuff to be thankful for.

But this still gets to me. I was never informed the gym would close at 3. I was never emailed that. No one told me.

I don't know, my progress was slowed and it doesn't feel like it was my fault. It wasn't laziness or bad work ethic or anything else.

You wouldn't be pissed?

mast can you tell me more about your hair growth regimen, the one with pumpkin seeds oil and saw palmetto. i've seen it mentioned in a previous thread. how's it working so far, and how do i manage to ingest inhuman ammounts of pills like you mentioned if i can only find 350 or 500 mg bottles

>>39504087
chem, coming for revenge tryin to stick him with the super heroin

>>39504178
he said

3x 1000mg PSO
and
5x 450mg saw palmetto

throughout the day. Just ordered it myself because accutane made my already-thin hair way thinner, and I wanna thicken it back up

>>39503262

>t. the dnp autist mafia

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>>39504135
Lol you should have just said hi. Oh well. She's weird anyway.
>>39504144
Was there still alcohol on your skin? Sometimes pins just hurt. If it keeps happening it's probably the gear and not you.
>>39504152
>I feel like 200 year old man!
And this is why you never come off. Have fun with your acne!
>>39504169
>I was never informed the gym would close at 3. I was never emailed that. No one told me.
And this is why I go to anytime fitness on top of having a rack and two barbells at home.

>>39504213
>use something that increases metabolism over 55% with moderate dosages and no harmful side effects unless you are a complete and utter imbecile
>or something that fucks up your heart for only a 10% or so boost

>>39504217
>Lol you should have just said hi
I should've, yeah, the situation was just goofy. She makes every situation goofy and awkward as fuck to begin with, then I get in the mix? Forget about it.

>>39498844
t. butthurt dyel

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>not smoking and drinking 2016

I actually really should stop
i've started to have alcohol for breakfast again

>>39504242
time to break out the penguin sheets

>>39504255
get to brewing and be a cheap drunkard like me.

>>39504217
>her quads cast a fucking shadow
wow, just wow

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>>39504167
Not an option!
Never used E form.
17-beta hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one
C19H28O2

>>39504217
I began having an acne problem while I was still on it, which is part of why I took a break. It has gotten better in weaning off for 3 weeks now.

I have a plan of action set in stone but in the meantime I guess the pain can't really be helped?
I suppose that is what I expected.

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>>39504273
or I can spend my time drinking and playing idolm@s instead

>>39504284
well take a proper PCT, and some DHEA to keep your energy up while your balls recover.

>>39504302
brewing wine takes like 5 mins to make and 1 month to wait, or you can get turbo yeast and make it in 5 days. its like 20$ for 5 gallons and is easy as shit to do

Why would you recommend 500mcg a week for a novice? 250-300 mcg is plenty, the weight will go up and you will still look lean.

300mcg Test E & 30 mcg Anavar will be enough and wont fuck you up as badly in the future.

My first cycle was 500mcg of test C + 200mcg EQ, got huge and bloated, lost all my gains after the cycle was over, currently on 200mcg primo + 250 test E, adding size slowly and without the moonface, loving it.

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>>39504222
>55% with moderate dosages and no harmful side effects

>55% = 700mg crystal
>no harmful side effects

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>>39504255
>alcohol for breakfast again
Ahhh breakfast of champions. I try to only do this on vacations lmao.
I'm quitting drinking btw. Should be interesting lol.
>>39504275
>her quads cast a fucking shadow
Mmmmmm
>>39504284
Ya coming off sucks. Nothing you can do about it =/

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>>39504147
I didn't vote for either.

>>39504155
tfw no redbone gf to fuck while having her praise my white heritage.

>>39504144
Quads for me are usually okay but sometimes I get one that hits something right below the skin, maybe a 1/8 of an inch in. VG is usually pretty gud once you find the right site.

>>39504255
>i've started to have alcohol for breakfast again

Why do you do that?

>>39504386
>>39504217

It happened a few times so must be the gear then.. Its higher dosed in mg's than i used to pin and different "brand"

Thanks 4 respond

>>39504362
55%+ = 500 crystal retard. it's also according to broscience highly possible that it's way over 55%

>>39504255
dress me up as azusa and let's go to town

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>>39504386
>I didn't vote for either.
Omg are you a real life Bern victim? I am shocked to see you here on a masculine board. Shouldn't you be on /an/ or something?
>>39504414
What's the concentration?
>>39504443
Kewl dood. Go find something better to do with your time.

>>39504443
kys

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>>39504360
>mcg

>>39504321
thats not bad
still dont think i'd do it

although I do know someone who brews their own beer.
pretty good.

>>39504366
good luck

>>39504386
im depressed

>>39504465
deal come on over

>>39504470
>Shouldn't you be on /an/ or something?
That's not very nice Carl, some of just have different values we hold important.

>>39504360
Didn't now you could get gains with that low of a dose boi
(Google the difference between mg and mcg)

But yeah for real, I started my first cycle with 250mg e5d, and made great sustainable progress, with minor lost gain after PCT.

250 mg Test E e5d amounts to about 2.5-5 times natural Test production (on average) per week, when ester weight is factored in. It should give plenty of possible progress, aslong as you accept the more careful start compared to say 500mg/w, and don't think of it as a miracle cure.

But you of course have to factor in recovery after cycles, if you are going to keep cycling or just doing it once/a few times(lol as if). Regarding HPTA shutdown and effects on endocrine system etc. But you'll have an easier time getting a feel for sides, so yeah. You do you etc, but 250mg e5d should be "enough", even tho it's a low dose. There's always time to increase doses as time progresses, since your most likely in this for the long run.

>>39504470
Tren 250mg/ml test 300mg/ml
2ml tren 1 test

>>39504484
ill be brewing beer soon, and i have to cut the content down for wine or no one will buy it, fml why cant i have more drunkards for friends.

not only that i should go to the local college and make friends with frat houses so i can sell booze to them

>>39504206
thanks mang. you might want to look into medicinal petroleum applied topically on the scalp. also i have problems with acne on my face and body and have been thinking of getting on accutane, is it really thinning hair or might it be something else. if i had to choose between hair and clear i'd choose hair but it'd be nice to have both

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>>39504483
>I hurt my knee brah
So go take some tb500 and bpc157 and memek677.
It's like you want to never make it...
>>39504484
I got this breh. DNP here I come!
>>39504488
Are you trying to say Trump supporters don't like animals? That's racist.
>>39504517
Test sounds reasonable but I've never seen tren e over 200mg/ml.

what chemicals do I take to fix my impacted ankle and my herniated middle back disc

>>39504530
Gramps did you see the video i posted for you???

I BE WOKE AF

>>39504605
henri¿

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>>39504628
no i did not

please share again

>>39504642
>>39504642
THANKS FOR MAKING ME WOKE AF GRAMPS

>>39500162
>>39500162
>>39500162
>>39500162
>>39500162

My source accidentally sent me 3 vials of test400 (100E, 100C, 200 Decanoate per ml) instead of the 250mg/ml test-e I ordered.
Happy with the mistake as I got several grams of test for free.

But I just wanted to ask if I'll be alright switching from test-e to this mix.

Cruising on 200mg per week, and will continue to do so. I assume there is enough test-e and c to keep my levels high enough to not fuck me up, while the decanoate takes its time kicking in?

oi blokes im tripping now so let us know whats the crack i feel maggoted after those stubbies last night gotta get back on the gain train alright m8s

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>>39504674
you wellcome my fellow faggot and thats my favorite video ever made

dont worry i remember you dearly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu5Vw_j-7aY

be sure to watch the rest of his videos of the future and be even more woke my yoked fellow

also did you enjoy my redpilled folder ? i re updated my imgur with that link included so check it out again for the drop box

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>>39504605
>stopping alcohol for a literal poison

>>39504710
yeah man i couldnt download the dropbox so i bookmarked it made me WOKE AF did you see hs speech to the nation about what hes gonna do when he gets in?

>all these sad cunts saying he cant afford to build a wall
>not realizing how many desperate spicks are chasing a green card
>two birds one massive righteous stone

CANT STUMP THE TRUMP

>>39504574
was definitely the accutane. i was shedding like HELL while on it, and it stopped 2 weeks after i came off accutane. it's starting to grow back a bit but it's still thin as hell

>>39504741
go to a hospital you dumb fuck

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>>39504723
i never stoped cumming i saw the picutre about his plans he wished to do within his first year but once i saw the video i knew my investments in KEK was the most valueble one i couldve made.

be sure to share the knowledge amoungst your friends kek wants chaos and knowledge shared amoungst all is just that

trust me theres more thats been updated within the imgur link that might intrigue you. its linked not so much as said

>>39504710
can you relink to both of them again i wanna be woke too

>>39504683
ask him for replacements of what you actually ordered, decanoate is retardedly slow to use effectively


too long to build up and too long to lower the dose

>>39504747
mirin just how WOKE AF you are man are you sure you aren't a time traveller too? are you a pence?

>>39504751
go to a hospital to stupid faggot

>>39504741
yet another reason why i dont recomend accutane

pls pick up DIM and use 500mg daily to combat your acne it worked for me and im certain itll work for you.

>>39504750
http://imgur.com/a/u5o62

redpills to the drop box are inclueded

>>39504757
im not a time travler, more like two universes merged together based upon what the science is hinting to.

https://www.inverse.com/article/7403-scientists-may-have-just-discovered-a-parallel-universe-leaking-into-ours

didnt read BTW but could hint towards more connections.

cern fucked with shit and it merged with another one since its so close or trump was messing with shit to subvert the current status qoue

who the fuck knows though ? i offer the idea you give me the suggestions and we will all learn and know eventually

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>>39504605
>Are you trying to say Trump supporters don't like animals? That's racist
No, but you guys aren't exactly representing our nation or your "god emperor" well by calling anyone that doesn't support him wholeheartedly "cucks", "bernouts", or whatever edgy terms you've managed to mangle together.

>>39504744
>less
>than
>3
>more
>weeks

>>39504771
lol it's completely gone now and it has been like 4+ months since I came off of accutane

it is entirely worth having thin hair for a few months. it's not alopecia that causes the hair to fall out, it's just that it temporarily fucks up your hairs growth cycle (telogen effluvium) and makes a lot of it fall out at once, since it jumps from the growing phase to the shedding/dormant phase.

it's only temporary but the results are permanent.

>>39504683
My opinion differs to other responder, that I think it's worth it (assuming you pin 1ml/w), but still depending on how long you are going to cruise. The 200mg of decca /w will give you some increased joint health etc, but not much in regards to the anabolic range. Since you got 3 vials (10ml?), I assume you're cruising for a long time?

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>>39504777
I'm kinda surprised you don't have sepsis or some shit yet. You should tell them to do an I&D or I wonder if kenalog would work in whatever those are.

>>39502039
>I do gay for pay, spend lots of money on drugs, destroy my health, deal with a bunch of sideaffects, and don't plan on competing


You know, professional athletes use less gear than you, and they make a living on it.


You are putting yourself in an early grave and you will not even compete, let alone make money off of it.


You are literally just doing it for the approval of random anime forum goers.


HAHAHA

And I know exactly what your response will be, because it is the only response you can come up with for any sort of criticism

>dyel

compared to some who blasts gear, I am dyel. By normie standards, I am fit and healthy.


I could not even lift at all, just by being handsome and tall, and not a rat faced manlet like you, I get more women and respect.

>>39504774
Is that Mast's oneitis

>>39504783
well i wont know wether to trust your facts until we get your medical results but we will wait

if it realy is permant then i would consider recomending but idk based upon the good luck that ive had with DIM
>>39504777

>>39504789
It's not deca he's saying it's test D, as in the ester. Lol

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>>39504798
No idea. It's Riley Reid though.

>>39504443

How rude anon, what did I ever do to you.


>>39504217

There's a 24/7 workout world near where I live, but it's pretty fucking far away.

This was discouraging but I guess it's my own fault for not asking in advance about thanksgiving hours.

I was just angry and looking for a reason to bitch but I should've been smart enough to avoid this.


>>39504206

I've been seriously considering picking some up, I'm not on gear but that doesn't mean my hairline isn't receding.

Worried about the "anti-androgenic" effects. Does that mean it will lower my testosterone levels? Or just lower DHT levels which don't effect gains?

You guys (I hope) know a lot about endocrine systems so some guidance here would be nice.

>>39503749

lol. Good luck with it anyways man. Hope you quit it for good. I've felt so much better since I did, not coughing all the time, saving money, etc.

>>39504801
Oh fuck

Pls disregard me,I'll be under a rock in the meantime

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>>39504718
>stopping alcohol for a literal poison
Lol oh well. At least this poison is for gains and not fun?
>>39504774
No I said bern victim as in he literally took the money and ran and completely sold out and didn't stand up for ANY of his supposed values. Very sad. I hope it never happens again but hey commies gonna commie now and forever I guess.
>>39504808
You just gotta workout twice tomorrow. Problem solved!

>>39504813
>literally took the money and ran and completely sold out and didn't stand up for ANY of his supposed values
I believe he does stand up for a lot of the values he talked about during his campaign. As for "selling out" he had to endorse her because he ran as a dem instead of independent.

>>39504808

also thanks janitor for removing that kek

>>39504718
>fucking guys and thinking he's straight

>>39504867
you realise the leaked podesta emails confirmed he was a plant by the dnc to guarantee hillary the primary right?

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>message sent
>close it so I don't keep checking if it's seen

>>39504892
(Source Needed). Everything I saw only said that they rigged it against him not.

>>39504894
are you a masochist ?
She didn't want to talk to you in Wallys for a reason.
take a hint

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>>39504949
Haha.

I guess, nbd if I'm misinterpreting recent interactions. I just had a question in my head, once it's answered I'll be on my way.

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>>39504974
>tfw don't have the power to unfuck your life

>>39504994
he was so aesthiect and a good actor, to think he "JUST" pissed it away with shity roles and stopped working out is the biggest mistake in movie history

>tfw you still see him as tarzan

>>39504994
Don't make me start reassuring you about your ability to reassure me, you don't want to rely on me like that.

How long and what dosages of accutane should I run for mild bacne.

Will 20mg for 2-3 months do enough?

HOLY FUCK GUYS A FAGGOT LIKES ME

my friend is talking with the faggot, and he revealed to him he likes me.

now, we can get a lot of free shit from him, but if he ever tries anything i would fucking lynch him.

what do?

>>39505019
you're even more degenerate than the faggot you nigger

>>39505004
Don't you talk about Monkeybone like that.

>>39505019
>he doesnt have gay friends

its like you dont want free drugs or something

also who cares if he likes you or not, just tell him your no interested its not that hard, unless your hard like the faggot that he is

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>>39505004
It's crazy what alimony and age can do to a man.

>>39505031
nah, im just seeing this as an oportunity to score free shit without doing anything

>>39505037
this faggot literally wants to suck my dick dude, he doesn't want to be my friend

>>39505035
If I win this settlement and you're still here I will give you a phat anonymous btc donation to help drag yourself out of eternal neetdom.

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my fucking calves won't fit in my tapered selvedge jeans. Fuck.

>>39505019
Give him a brojob. He obviously likes how muscular you look which is not gay.

>>39505035
monkey bone and mommy was his best roles

>>39505044
poor man he couldve been the brad pitt of his days :C but it never worked out for him with that

>>39505049
not a big deal honestly just tell him NO!! and be done with it as friends besides when was the last time you friend zoned a chick ? it feels just as great to tell a faggot that to

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>>39505058
Cool.

>>39505049
>im just seeing this as an oportunity to score free shit without doing anything

like I said you behave like a nigger

>>39505019
it's a free hole when you're single

>>39498767

500mg/wk of Test is pretty much the perfect first cycle. I've seen a lot of stuff online recommending a short-ish cycle of 10-12 weeks, but if you're really intent on this being a one-and-done deal, I would extend that to 16-20 weeks. I personally noticed a huge change in my physique around weeks 9-10 (all the accumulated gains at that point was enough for me to notice and say WOW).

I would NOT add another compound. If you really, really wanted to add something the one I would recommend is EQ (equipoise) because it has very mild sides and doesn't contribute much to aromitization. If you have trouble eating enough it will help with appetite. Your BP will also shoot up though, so take that into consideration. And some people experience anxiety on it. I have generalized anxiety disorder and somehow the EQ did not increase my anxiety level at all, so the sides all depend on the individual.

EQ I would run minimum 16 weeks, at least 600mg/wk if not more (800,900).

For PCT it's worth more to get pharma stuff. And get a pill splitter from a pharmacy (they cost like $2 or something cheap).

A lot of people think they're going to do one cycle and be done with it, and I had that plan too. At the end of my first cycle I was so satisfied with my results that I ended up deciding to cruise while dieting to lose the excess fat I gained during the cycle so I could go hard on my next blast. Such is life...

>>39505086
come on dude, i work and support my family by myself

>>39505070
>not a big deal honestly just tell him NO!! and be done with it as friends besides when was the last time you friend zoned a chick ? it feels just as great to tell a faggot that to

yeah, but it's not a gir

l>>39505104
>it's a free hole when you're single

yeah but i can get girls whenever i want dude

Non fraud looking to become fraud. I'm a classic "just one cycle" girl wanting to get on var. How much, how long brehs?

>>39505117
can you really not see that you're being a terrible person? using someone to get free stuff?

>i work and support my family by myself
>yeah but i can get girls whenever i want dude
do you also cheat or some shit? get your shit straight

Is there an actual website for this shit that's legit ? How does one obtain test E?

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>>39505117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITg4Ztt-IcA

welp here you go faggot

>>39505138
>do you also cheat or some shit? get your shit straight

yeah, you don't?

>>39505142
You email me

Happy thanksgiving

>>39504152
you're cute! you type cute!

wanna be my gf?

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Fug tryptophan...
Someone make some coffee..

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>>39504484
>>39504484
>im depressed
iktf
called in sick to work and going to liquor store when it opens.

>>39505337
take 20k IU of vitamind D3 daily it helps alot mane, haven't thought of suicide since ive started taking it

>>39502397
Grip the pin like the adrenaline shot they did in pulp fiction. Just find a spot on your quad and slowly jab it in and use your thumb on the plunger. I pin like this cause I shake a lot and it the other way tears up my legs and I get really bad PIP

>>39505350
also doing this ALWAYS LISTEN TO THE WOKE MASTER i just bought some d3 supps they these tiny little pills worth 1000 should be able to et 20 down a day THE WOKE MASTER HAS SPOKEN

>>39505240

>clearly on anavar and not a calvin klein husbandbeater

Would not fuck

>>39505369
please dont worship me i have enough people IRL that call me a god and its concerning enough since im not knowledgeable enough to make such noble changes to peoples ways of thinking

pls try and think of your own and use mine for reference.

but vitamin d3 at that dosage is good enough i wouldnt go above 20k IU or you risk the chance of calcifying your muscles and that would not be a good thing, but 20k IU is a psychological dosage that you would get from the sun in 2 hours time while being shirtless. missing a dosage isnt a bad thing but daily is coverage for when your not out in the sun

Someone point me out to a website or something I'm wanting to go on a cycle of test e and have no clue what websites I can trust

>>39505426
http://pastebin.com/bkXs0khR

fuck off newfagg

this might help you

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>>39505350
>not taking 50k per day and killing yourself

>>39505337
I have 2 beers left
Hold me

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>>39505460
love you jerry pls brew for your own sanity

hows your day ?

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>>39505460

any news on swollen gland faggot or cat piss?

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Last injection is today.... can't wait to crash hard and feel like a biggity ass bitch right as my finals are due.

cycling is one of life's greatest hells.

>>39505473
Happy birthday to your sister grandpa