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What is the best routine/method for building strength in the

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What is the best routine/method for building strength in the major compound barbell lifts as a natty lifter?

I see all these programs from people that work great if you're on steroids. Also I see stuff that is filled with
>hypertrophy work
and
>isolation exercises

I mean cmon....hypertrophy as a natty? Let's get real here.

Gimme the straight poop guys. I don't want to fuck around, I only want to do stuff that is actually going to have an impact as a natty.
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SS would be the obvious choice
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>>39486230
I have been lifting on and off for years, I don't have beginner numbers and can't make linear gains any longer with that program.
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>>39486209
God damn that looks disgusting.
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>>39486209
Wendler 5/3/1
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>>39486259
Could I do this program everyday with no rest periods since it targets different muscle groups every session?
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>>39486302 Probally not... I do it without the deload week (which is every third week). Read the book, it's a fast read
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>>39486361
How long have you been doing it and how have your lifts changed?
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>>39486209
height/weight/lifts?

typed out a longer reply but accidentally lost it, anyways i can help you out. i've done some work with athletes before, and i have time to kill while i procrastinate on some projects.
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>>39486405
5'11''
170 lbs

Bench - 225
Squat - 310
Deadlift - 370
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>>39486431
oh right, forgot to ask: what other fitness goals do you have? anything you do outside of the weight room?

are you just getting back into it, or have you already started hitting the gym?
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>>39486477
Been lifting on and off for years. No more noob gains. Been doing PPLs trying to increase maximal strength. Been doing sets of 5-8
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>>39486209
> One of these men claim natty status and sell fake programs based on that lie
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>>39486524
eh, i meant to know if you were planning to go back after a few months/years or already started going back

usually because you want to increase work capacity slowly before you can start handing a full workout with any reasonable intensity.

anyways p/p/l isn't ideal even for a generalized setup. try horizontal/vertical upper/lower with your basic compounds + minimal assistance and periodize it, or just nuke it and go conjugate method (example: https://www.defrancostraining.com/westside-for-skinny-bastards-part3/)
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>>39486209
A shit ton of calories and a shit ton of reps
dumbass
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>>39486612
I'm already back breh, I've been lifting regularly for years now but have been stalling mostly.

I've heard push/pull splits 6 days a week with one working set (like a heavy drop set or something) for each exercise (in addition to a couple warm up sets) is good too, what are your thoughts? I want to minimize the useless junk, like endless reps of assistance that do nothing except get a pump but not sure whats good enough to keep and whats not.
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high frequency works best.
look at what guys like sandow and saxon and hermann goerner and john grimek did - lifted 5-6 times a week, decently heavy, similar movement patterns each day, never to failure
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>>39486534
b-but he's taken a polygraph!
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>>39486209
Full body 3-6 x per week.

Squats, front squats, deadlifts, bench, ohp, chins, rows. The rest is fluff.

Every session do a hinge, push, and a pull, plus light fluff work if you choose.

Use conservative loads and set/rep schemes from Prilepins Chart.

Light cardio a couple times per week.

Pay me now.
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>>39486209
https://www.t-nation.com/workouts/20-minute-muscle-builder

i do this. personal tweaks include 2 sets of5 for ohp (one top set, one backoff sets) and dips instead of bench. i find i can recover better doing dips and ohp instead of bench and ohp.

if youre too lazy to click, theres a DL/press m/w/f and a bench/row t/th/sat. 1 set of 5, 2 sets of 1, and a high rep backoff set with light weights. i also do lots of goblet squats to keep the squatting pattern in there, and will do a hevay squat every now and then (squats are by far my strongest lift so im letting the others catch up
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>>39486209
rich btfo
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Bump. Anyone else?
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>>39488678
push pull legs for people who want to gain muscle
u sacrifice the strength gains due to sheer volume for your other body parts
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