Explain why you don't eat meat.

I don't want cancer and heart disease.

l want cancer and heart disease.

I don't need to

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>>39480411

>>39480456
Just roids

I don't want to develop cardiac diseases, inflammatory conditions of the gut, various cancers, or Alzheimer's/dementia. I would like to hit my 90s in relative comfort.

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>>39480456
>watching Bear Grylls
>he catches a live tuna
>eats it raw and still moving
>this makes me hungry
Murder is delicious.

>>39480456
If only we all had BBC genes. We should let all our women be enriched so that no one has to endure being a white boi with bitch tits anymore.

You know, because text over an image is always true.

*sips Monster*

>>39480411
Killing animals for any reason is cowardly. I don't lift to be a limp-dicked sausage lover.

I had cancer and would rather not get it again.

>>39480555
Remember, fish don't feel pain

>>39480411
Because health is more important to me than gains.

>>39480456
And they'd all be bigger and stronger if they weren't eating a meme diet. Krapernick went vegan and his career tanked within a year. Aryan Foster is vegan and is constantly injured.

>>39480411
Long-term health + feels

>>39480789
It's okay to eat fish 'cos they don't have any feelings

>>39480456
Fried chicken is meat

>>39480861
They do have parasites though

>>39480456
>ankh necklace
WE

>>39480456
>gardening gloves
Quit posing for the 'gram and get back to raking, Jamal.

Why are all of the plant eaters I know fucking low test numales

It all correlates

>>39480925
don't forget about mercury

>>39480456
>These men are addicted to fried chicken and pork.
Nice try, comrade.

>>39480411

For environmental reasons. The planet is fucked and the meat industry is so fucking fucked up beyond fucked up. Its gonna be like the holocaust in a few decades, like how did we let this shit go on?

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>>39481399
I dont want to know in what circles do you live, but my Vegans friends and i are all fit motherfuckers that have no Problem with laying chicks and laugh at negro and feme jokes. But hey, we dont fucking want to eat meat. Dont want to give my Money to a fucking industry that makes Money giving cancer and cardiac Problems. We are the only fucking animal that pays to eat... all the other fuckers out there eat raw and are shredded

>>39481629

if you gotta convince people you "lay chicks" on an anonymous imageboard then u most definitely don't lay shit.

>>39481629

> ayo senpai i zippity zop they fim senpaitachi wit my bazonga also i hoopty boopty niggity giggity jokerinos.

>>39480411
for health reasons. primarily the health of the chickens

>>39480456
>Gardening gloves
>Black people
Pick both
Now get to the field.

>>39481658
I love you

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because i don't think it's healthy, it's expensive compared to other protein sources (even the cheapest of meat is relatively expensive) and it would be literally too much protein for me.

also you're a leftist beta cuck if you state the environment or animal rights as one of your reasons not to eat meat.

pic related is what i love to devour every once in a while tho.

>>39481693
>expensive
>but sushi tho

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>>39481643
FIRST! an anonymous tibetan corpse eating birds board!

Second... ok you found out, i dont lay shit... but my friend do, they are big and strong.

because it slows my digestion down to the point where i can only crap once a day

>>39481705
15€ once a month for all-you-can-eat sushi is worth it.

>>39481662
now this i like

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>>39481693
>leftish beta cuck
is this bad you rightish beta cuck?

Only for the records, im not a leftish nor a rightish. If i could i would blow the entire Parlament with all politicians lefts or rights in it!

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>>39481727
fuck it, here im with you

>>39481727
That's what I use for fish for a month and I eat it every day

you all old enough now to know you should be vegan. its time to grow up

>>39481741
>"im so smart and above all"

what an ultracuck

>>39480411
because it rhymes with pete, and I got bullied by a guy called pete. Eating meat reminds me of pete :(

>>39480456
Is that Afro The Rock in the middle?

>>39481755
but it's more fun to pig out on sushi with your m8s after a 2h full-body workout

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>>39481783

>>39480411
Been a vegetarian since birth, tried meat many times don't like the taste of it.

>>39482072
u ate meat b4 birth?

>>39480456
Oh I'm sure there was some murder involved

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Becasue attainment of a life where you don't need to kill conscious beings is noble.

Most of my family is vegetarian. My gf is too.
Dad has been vegetarian all his life and is generally stronger than I am.

>>39480789
Fish do feel pain. As soon as I start putting my knife in a fish it starts freaking out. I don't care what """"science"""" says.

>>39481693
>it would be literally too much protein for me.
You have to go back.

>>39480417
What's this cancer and meat connection i see thrown around so much, how does one go with the other??

>>39482199
There is a small correlation between red meats, processed meats and cancer but if you don't eat a lot of them and consume plenty of vegetables and fruits and don't smoke the risk it's miniscule. It's just another fear mongering Vegan tactic.

>>39481833
No homo?

>>39482175
>I don't care what science says.
t. every vegan ever.

>>39482260
> things Vegans dont do.
>"As soon as I start putting my knife in a fish it starts freaking out"
Anon believing anons Statement came from a vegan...
>>39482260 is an idiot period ever

>>39482174
You know how many farming vegetables? Or clearing land for your house? Or driven out of their habitats farming a huge amount of ingredients for everything you use day to day?

Unless you live and forage in the wilderness you're just as tied to death as the rest of us.

>>39482304
>I cause some problems therefore I shouldn't bother trying to minimise any damage I cause by proxy

Fuck it. You're right. If I do all that stuff, I may as well machete a pig right now. Brb.

Oh and also considering I breathe in pollution, I'll take up smoking meth.

Retard

This is the problem with you morons raised on abrahamism. It's all binary with you faggots.

>>39482304
>I spend so much money on rent therefore saving money elsewhere is stupid

>>39480456
3 niggas in a children play area, topless, trying to look intimidating, with garden gloves, claiming they havent murdered anyone. What could go wrong.

>>39482295
It was clearly a hypothetical example. Do you have difficulties understanding text? Is it the lack of amino acid limiting your thought process?

>>39482247
My best friend is a vegetarian and she's brought that up alot when we go running. Something bout vaginal cancer and how quitting meat helped those cells diminish

>>39482400
Lost my train of thought on that chain. Also wanted to add im iffy on believing that. But she's got no reason to lie about it

>Literally eating corpses
Because I'm not a ghoul?

>>39480570
Underrated contra-meme.

>>39482441
>not getting ghoul gains
not gonna make it

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>>39480456
>black people
>without murder

>>39482361
i dont understand you anon...

>>39482549
Obviously

>>39482462
>blacks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people

Can't be low test and a cuck if you eat meat

>>39480411
>Late 2016:
>Posting Dollar Store-quality bait
Is this really the best you can do?

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>bunch of low-quality bait and ironic shitposters

LOL forget all that nonsense, THIS IS NOW A BACON APPRECIATION THREAD.

VEGANKEK MODS ARE ASLEEP, POST DELICIOUS NUTRITIOUS BACON

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I'll become a fish eating one later down the line

>>39480555
What episode

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>>39480411
>Explain why you don't eat meat.
LOL why would I torture myself by avoiding delicious, nutritious meat? Besides there's literally no point to living longer if you're just going to suffer for it, I'd rather live a shorter more enjoyable life!
>vegancucks
LOL, fags

>>39482174
Plants are more conscious than we are. Your belief system and practices are based on ignorance and holier than thou arrogance. Intelligence isn't the only measure of a being's worth. A cow is made to be eaten, it isn't good for much else and (probably) never will be.

>>39482192
what is that supposed to mean?

>>39481629
>>39481629
>no pecs

>>39482855
>vegens live longer!*
>*when compared to the rest of humanity even though the majority of humanity eat like shit
Compare a group of people who eat well and include meat vs vegans and the vegans lose every time.

>>39482881
I like cows and I don't want to eat them.

Im sorry if it triggers you.

>>39482406
She's telling you her vagina is cancer free. i.e clean.. she wants the D bro, tell her you're penis is cancer free and see how she reacts.

>>39483179
they're both not very appealing. one got beaten up by ricardo panini and the other is a retard, what is your point?

>>39483169
Where's your proof?

>>39481693
>a sushi faggot
I literally can't understand the appeal of this shit. It's rice with fish, it's bland as fuck. Can someone explain? Or is this some hipster shit?

>>39483205
Every single
>Vegans are more healthy!
'statistic' ever

Go on, post your evidence vegans are more healthy, every single one is vegans v average people instead of people who eat well and happen to be vegan v people who eat well who happen to eat meat as it should be.

Its called bias and pushing an agenda, well done you fell for it.

>>39483205
Where is yours?

>>39483205
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26657045

tldr version; eating a healthy balanced diet > vegan

It just so happens that people who care about their diets, like vegans, live longer on average because shock and fucking awe, they dont eat a shitton of junkfood like the majority of people. It has nothing to do with not eating or eating meat, but having a well balanced diet overall.

>>39483270
but a "healthy balanced diet" is one in which you limit and/or eliminate meat intake.

>>39483287
No, its not. At fucking all and science has proven that ad infinitum because shock and fucking awe eating what our bodies need to survive increases your ability to survive!

You can go suck down as many shrubs and supplements as you want, but eating a balanced diet that includes meat is always better.

>>39480456
we use the same exact gloves in car factory. why the fuck do these guys do calisthenics in them??

>>39483287
Again, where is your source? Because there is no scientific evidence a healthy diet ignores meat

https://authoritynutrition.com/7-evidence-based-health-reasons-to-eat-meat/

>>39482881
This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

>>39482662
Not sure if serious, but I hate this sort of "logic" so rant incoming anyway. Yes, beta, numale and cucky behaviour will probably be more common among men who are so deeply concerned with animal and environmental wellfare that they abandon that old symbol of masculinity - meat - and go vegan. Statistically. Maybe. HOWEVER, that does not mean that you can just avoid being a numale beta cuck if only you eat some dead animal; meat it will not magically transform you into a real man if you are a beta. And if your reason for eating it is, even partly, fear of being unmanly or 'faggy' if you don't, then I GUARANTEE you that you are indeed a beta because you are letting insecurities determine your diet.

>>39482881
>Plants are more conscious than we are.
Jesus fucking Christ, 11/10 bait, would rage again.

>>39483234
It's yuppie shit from the 80s and early 90s, and since hipsters are the new yuppies it is now their turf.
I like it OK with plenty of soysauce and wasabi, but consider it more a type of healthy fast-food when I'm in a hurry and don't want to kill my gains with Mickey D's, and not a delicacy.

>>39483253
The only reason to be 100% vegan is concern for animal wellfare. Both health benefits and environmental ones can be had by simply not eating too much meat, and eating good quality (i.e. organic) meat. I'm vegan, and I eat a diet optimal for lifting (as far as possible for a vegan, at least), and I gurantee that if I had me a slice of lean chicken-breast or tuna once or twice a week my health would NOT detoriate. I hate it when vegans lie for veganism; it backfires and makes us look bad. Honesty is the best way forward.

>>39483287
You're getting confused

You have 'need' to eat meat, but you do require the nutrience it provides. A vegan attempts to get around not eating meat by eating other food stuffs that have those nutrience. That doesnt make the diet better for health at all, its the exact same stuff just in a different way.

>>39483302
>>39483313
http://i.imgur.com/ToiGept.png
http://i.imgur.com/Xygnetb.png

http://www.thepermanentejournal.org/issues/2016/summer/6192-diet.html

"Plant-based nutrition has exploded in popularity, and many advantages have been well documented over the past several decades.1 Not only is there a broad expansion of the research database supporting the myriad benefits of plant-based diets, but also health care practitioners are seeing awe-inspiring results with their patients across multiple unique subspecialties. Plant-based diets have been associated with lowering overall and ischemic heart disease mortality2; supporting sustainable weight management3; reducing medication needs4-6; lowering the risk for most chronic diseases7,8; decreasing the incidence and severity of high-risk conditions, including obesity,9 hypertension,10 hyperlipidemia,11 and hyperglycemia;11 and even possibly reversing advanced coronary artery disease12,13 and type 2 diabetes.6

The reason for these outcomes is two-fold. First, there are inherent benefits to eating a wide variety of health-promoting plants. Second, there is additional benefit from crowding out—and thereby avoiding—the injurious constituents found in animal products, including the following:

... (you can read the rest in the link) "

>>39483302
Vegan diets have already been proven to have the most benefits for overall health. The only reason it seems that a diet with meat can be healthy is because the vegetables in their diet is counteracting the negative effects of meat. Stop being delusional. There is nothing in meat that you can't get from plants. And if there is, try to prove it so I can disprove it.

>>39483326
>Written by a bias vegetarian who is trying to sell her novel
Yeah no thanks, where is your real source?

>>39483334
>There is nothing in meat that you can't get from plants
My point exactly, you're the delusional one here mate.

>>39483325
I agree that meat is a different way to get nutrients. And you can also get plenty of cancer, heart disease, and diabetes from it too.

>>39483340
Then I should also mention some of the negative effects of meat like cancer, heart disease and diabetes.

>>39483326
That second image is literally saying what the person you are arguing with is saying

Healthy diet > all other diets. Whether you eat meat or not is literally irrelevant, its eating UNHEALTHY things is is harmful to you. No fucking shit.

You're literally saying the equivalent of 'Being vegan is bad because if I eat these poison berries they kill you! I told you plant life was bad!'

>>39483335
nah it's just a cardiologist who did an AMA, thought it was interesting so screenshotted it. I don't even think he promotes veganism that much he was just asked about it on the AMA.

Just going to ignore my other links?

>>39483345
>>39483352
>more unsubstantiated housewives bullshit of 'meat causes cancer!'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/29/long-term-vegetarian-diet-changes-human-dna-raising-risk-of-canc/

Jesus would you faggots at least try to understand that being healthy is more important than your fucking social agenda?

>>39483357
>first is worthless
>second is backing what im saying up
>third is bias
I didnt ignore anything, you posted nothing of value

>>39483335
Not that anon, I think that we can all agree that it is possible to get everything good that is in meat from non-meat sources, be that plants or supplements.

The real question concerns the supposed BAD stuff in meat, that one WON'T get at all if one gets the good stuff from plants and supplements. The question is, therefore, if it might be better for one's health to get the good stuff meat has from non-meat sources and thereby avoiding the bad stuff in meat.

So is there "bad stuff" in meat? Science seems to indicate yes to some degree and in some meats, but does that mean we have to eliminate it, or just eat a bit less? Or even just get better sources, since I think that we can all agree that the mass-produced crap of today is not of the same quality as what out grandparents and great-grandparents ate.

>>39483366
>social agenda
This is literally all being vegan is to these people. It has absolutely nothing to do with fact, just what they believe makes them superior.

>>39483384
>supposed
And that is exactly where your entire argument collapses in on itself, glad you realized it.

>>39483366
>MA VEGAN DIET
>increases chance of cancer anyway
My fucking sides

>>39483387
No, that's just your made up belief, probably to make yourself feel better by belitting behaviours you can't comprehend.

>>39480417
Hah, then kill yourself. Everything you eat, drink, and breathe can cause cancer. Hell! Life giving sunshine gives you cancer!

>>39483234
obviously never been to a good sushi restaurant. enjoy your chicken tendies with ketchup.

>>39483430
Dont get salty at me you fell for a scam idiot. You're the dumbass who buys into this shit.

>>39483408
Like I said, not that anon so I wasn't making that argument. Just trying to clarify matters so that we don't speak past each-other.

I am, however, vegan, but I maintain that one cannot state categorically that all meat, in all quantities, is always bad for all people. Some meats may be bad in some quantities for some people, but that's about it. At most. No argument can be made in favour of veganism following this line (i.e health) without resorting to either logical fallacies or incorrect empircal data or wild exaggerations based on otherwise correct data. One might be able to argue for reduction of consumption of certain meats, but not full veganism.

>>39483430
>No, that's just your made up belief,
You mean like being vegan when there is no scientific evidence it makes you live longer or avoid cancer?

Being healthy > your bullshit agenda.

>>39483437
Homoqueer hipster detected.

>>39480411
I don't support murder.

You all should be arrested

>>39480411
I ONLY eat meat
and I'm skinny

I imagine false distinctions between plants and animals, ignorant of the ultimate oneness of life.

>>39480456
They look better than 90% of /fit/

>>39480417
Don't eat processed shit

>>39483476
>doesn't support murder
>parents almost killed themselves because of a hugh mungus faggot retard of a child
that's hypocritical as fuck

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>>39480411
the idea that you eat an animal that got stripped from its skin and shredded to pieces by a machine isn't very appetizing

>>39484770
>Being a spineless faggot isn't normal. But on Veganism it is.

>>39480789
Your dad told you that too eh? He was lying.

>>39480411
Not as healthy as eating fatty fish, which I do almost everyday.
I do eat meat and poultry, just seldomly.
Would prefer eating fish, veggies, and fruits.

>>39484953
cool argument bro

>>39480411
>I don't like animal abuse
>farmed meat is terrible for the environment
>it is shit for our health

>>39485907
incoming manchildren with cognitive dissonance calling you a pussy/fag in 5...4...

>>39480456
>>39480940
WUZ

>>39480411
because veganism is the only way for the white man.
eating meat is for niggers and if you deny it you're literally nigger tier.

>>39482304
>why are you bulldozing this forest?
because we need grazing land for cattle
>you know you can grow all the food you need with 1/50th the land required for grazing land?

>>39485907

pussyfag

>>39482400
my mate got lung cancer and he doesn't smoke, therefore there is no risk in smoking

my dad has liver failure but never drinks, therefore there is no risk in being an alcoholic

my mum always wore sun protection but still got skin cancer, therefore there is no point using sun protection

>>39482175
No they don't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_in_fish

>>39483163
Say that to his face not online see what happens

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>>39480411
never really liked beef or pork. eat some lamb and chicken occasionally but i keep it platbased since real unprocessed meat is quite expensive in Norway.
also
> high cholestrol

nah thanks
Keep it flexitarian

>>39485957
NATTY

>>39480411
Because my gains completely took off when I tried going vegan, and I liked it so much I decided to keep doing it.

The same reason I don't eat fruit: horrible for the planet.

With the amount of vegetables and whole grains I consume, there just isn't room for meat.

>>39486068
Given the broad scientific consensus that fish can probably feel pain, it has been suggested that precautionary principles should be applied to commercial fishing, which would likely have multiple consequences.[81]

Your teachers must have a blast reading your sources.... Because you don't even read them you fucking idiot

>>39482174
lol check out that smile what a bitch

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This triggers the cucks.

>>39480456
What's up with the guy's belly button on the right? Is it just really bad scar tissue?

>>39481715
Yeah red meat does this to me too. Poultry and fish are alright though.

>>39482247
Correlation does not equal causation. One of the simplest and most obvious of fallacies.

Is paleo the healthiest diet?

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>>39483234
Because your pallette is fucked with high sugar foods and crap. You will never be able to enjoy the taste and texture of a good, fresh piece of raw tuna melting in your mouth.

>>39488027
>a diet dedicated to eating whole foods and maximizing nutrient absorption
yes

>>39488050
fantastic.

>>39484953
relax bro pussies are sensitive.

>>39487764
we should start eating them.... only fucking thing i think about when t. skinny nu male cuck mentions being a "raw vegan" to me.

>>39480456
Testosterone is a vegetable, right?

>>39483334
>the vegetables in their diet is counteracting the negative effects of meat

Kek. Please kill yourself if you think this is how nutrition works

>>39482247
The sun gives you cancer.

It's all ZOG propaganda to weaken the white race.

>Oy vey eat soy goyim! Leave strength and meat to simpletons like Tyrone!

>>39480861
Nirvana fan?

>>39484770
eating a fucking plant that is fed cow shit for it to grow isn't either motherfucker

>>39480411
Because I'm a huge faggot.

>>39483152
That you're most likely a manlet

>>39488036
Nah cuck excuse me while I eat cheap ground beef between bread with potatoes.