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A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.

>running out of qts to post edition

>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
https://pastebin.com/1HgVcGam (embed)
https://pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk (embed)
https://www.chinfl.blogspot.sk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq

>helpful blogs:
https://yashathoughts.com
https://pentupwl.files.wordpress.com/

>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.

>youtube stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLfIeSgSBSoCJpz57KfVoqp4K4AeSFAfD
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLotmoPX6Kq0WJH2uws60250m1YTtg3j8Q
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6JVkciQ5ivAZBA3orJe37VOH_f5bcyyz
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which lifting shoes have the highest heel and aren't expensive?
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this shit is so fucking dangerous if you're not going to be a high level competitor what's the point
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>>39442429
Adidas pp2
Wei rui warriors

Any cobbler can change heel height

>>39442057
Take care of your hands instead, use moisturiser, sand or otherwise debride your calluses
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>>39442442
snibbety snab xDDD
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>>39442439
lol
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>>39442442
If you're going to die some day, what's the point in lifting at all?
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>>39442433
muh dick
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>>39442442
it's not dangerous, look up injury rates in olympic weightlifting, they're remarkably low. same goes for powerlifting. only high level athletes who are training multiple times a day year round and fucking retards get injured weightlifting.
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>>39442433
dat butt jiggle on the jerk goddamn
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>>39442442
it's really not that dangerous. more people get injured playing pickup basketball
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>>39442757
Jesus that gyno....
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U
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>>39442757
>roiding for this
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>>39443145
yeah but the consequences are a bit more severe if that bar lands on your head or spine
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>>39442421
new to ow, im recovering from a shoulder impingement, can i do power cleans or do they tax the shoulder a lot/will make my symptoms worse?
i can bench, dl and squat just fine
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>>39442757
Fuck, I thought Jon North was natty. Why are you even roiding if you're shit and never going to compete in the olympics anyways?
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>>39442439
lol, fake weights?
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>>39446573
Nah, she ofc can front squat 220 at 63 and then lift it off her clavicle with just her arm strength and laugh about how easy it was.
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>>39442439
>mfw i rerack 5pl8frontskwot
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>>39446545
He was natty his entire weightlifting career, he only started using once he began competing in bodybuilding. Obviously he's not doing either now with his heart defect, hopefully he's also no longer blasting test.
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>>39442757
I rather be dyel than have that gyno tb h
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>>39442433
w h o
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Anyone ever have those days where even like 75% feels heavy and you start doing weird shit in ur tech that you don't normally do? Hate that shit, it's always snatch, atleast c&j feeling good
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>>39446818
If you actually read some of the stuff pendlay said it's not unlikely he's been using since before his ban
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>>39447152
That's called having a bad day and it happens to everyone.
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>>39447163
I just feel so frustrated that I missed a sn @ 75% tbf hadnt snatched for two weeks as last week had flu so I shouldn't dwell I guess. Got all my reps in the end and even a bit higher on c&j. Sn just feels like it's getting worse and worse FML senpai
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Can I get some tips on pulling under the bar in the snatch?
I can never go from power position to a full overhead squat and always end up just quarter squatting like a power snatch
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>>39446456

You'll be fine if you're not stupid.
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>>39447304
more practice with the empty bar.

you have to instantly drop down after that .05 second brush against your hips....

>it's freaking hard for a reason
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>>39447714
SOMEONE WHO DONT NO WHAT THEY TALMBOUT

pls leave
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Think I've been having supraspinatus issues.
Is laying off overhead presses enough to fix it?
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>>39447704
amazing how he can save the clean while stepping forward.
and then he even almost gets the jerk too.
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>>39447696

I never understood the context of his little outburst. I mean, he made the lift, good for him. But who is pointing out in the crowd?
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>>39447714

>you have to instantly drop down after that .05 second brush against your hips

Please don't mislead people like this. It's really not funny.
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>>39447931
maybe his people that came to watch, he's just saying he appreciates it senpai

it's almost tradition for lithuanian lifters to go insane after their lifts, just look up any lithuanian wl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeWhrsdkiAQ
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>He fell for the coaching meme
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>>39442433
Like watching pron but not having to be ashamed about it.
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>>39447901
Anyone?
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>>39448346

What do you mean by 'issues'? Elaborate.
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>>39448797
Sporadic shoulder pain that goes down to the elbow (for example, when catching the bar from front rack position after a clean), and clicking and unstable shoulder on overhead presses.
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>>39448797
Now what?
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>>39448840

Post a video of you pressing and cleaning. Didn't have to be heavy weight. Most likely your mechanics are incorrect.
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>>39449548
I just named catching the bar as an example.
It happens when I need to provide shoulder abduction force in the first few degrees.
Even on lateral raises with only 3kg.
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How can you tell the difference between a pinched nerve vs pulled muscle
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>>39449621

Post a video so we can see what you're actually doing.
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>>39450315
Guys, please, I just want to know if I should stop overhead work with a weak/injured/shitty supraspinatus and if I should stop benching too?
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>>39450205
Pinched nerve feels like painful pins and needles with a bit of tightness, nothing like a pulled muscle.
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>>39450354
I hate her and I hate her boyfriend.

>>39450396
Talk to a doctor, not a bunch of faggots on the internet.
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>>39450396
Well nobody fucking knows until we see your shitty form retard, jesus christ.
How do you expect anybody to know how to help when you refuse to post a form check.
Sounds like you're just looking for an excuse to stop upper body work at this point.
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>>39450414
>I hate her and I hate her boyfriend.

that's cause u r weak
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>>39450418
I've doing overhead presses for more than 4 years, my form is fine.
I suspect my supraspinatus got fucked because it's either weak or fatiqued, but I think just weak.
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>>39450427
Nah, it's because Colin Burns is constantly being a faggot on social media. Farris, Norik "Natty" Vardanian, and Fleming are all better 94s.
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>>39442757

>american hip thrust
>circular bar path
>dem nipples
>dat gyno

USA USA USA
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Does anyone else think Mattie Rogers is an insufferable attention whore?

Jesus christ

>better post the third video of me in my underwear lifting of the day.
>The be proud of your body posts which = subtle brag look at me I think I'm hot posts.

Jesus christ shes not even that good of a lifter.
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>>39450716
>insufferable attention whore?

nah she's just a woman

dont try to apply men logic to whatever they do
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>>39450716
Those are some sour grapes, anon. She's young, successful at her passion, pretty face, and has a banging body; of course shes gonna be an attention hoe
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>>39450523
>tfw you will never have 2008 adistars
Why did you forsake us adidas? Adipowers look like hot ass in comparison. Don't even get me started on those leighstrungs are whatever the fuck they're called.
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>>39450730
Grapes not sour, and you just agreed with me. Attention whore of peace.
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>>39450716

I don't like her much either, but only really cause of the cutesie shit she does while filming herself

also that one time she compared herself to lu
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>>39450740
She compared herself to lu? Pls link. Dumb ho.
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>>39447161
Link to these comments?
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>>39450738
I didn't agree she was insufferable; it's social media, damn nigga just turn off your phone or walk away if you're sick of seeing her. I'm simply saying she has more of a reason to be an attention whore compared to other people on social media.

Shes arguably one of the best female weightlifters in the US, whatever that's worth. She I'd say shes at least breddy gud.
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>>39450755

I think it was from her IG but I only saw it because someone posted it on here after she bombed out of some meet (the parallel being lu bombed cj)
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>>39450766
I just don't understand the groupie-ness surrounding her. All the girls in my gym worship her, when there are far better women lifters internationally. Oh wait they don't have as many instagram followers and aren't as pretty so they aren't to be worshipped. Stupid cunt (Not you, Mattie.)
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>>39450786
She's basically the female poster child for US weightlifting. I'm assuming you're from the states, and so are said girls at your gym. They probably get exposed to Mattie moreso than the international lifters and also relate to her more. They may admire the other women for their strength, but they want to probably BE Mattie because, again, she's young, pretty, white, decently strong; the same reasons why she's the poster girl.
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>>39450437

If you were doing the movement correctly you wouldn't have a weakness, and regardless such a small muscle isn't going to have such a disproportionate impact on your lifting. You said you're experiencing pinching, which is not a sign of weakness, it's a sign of PINCHING, which means you're doing the movement(s) incorrectly. Post a video so we can see exactly what it is you're doing wrong.
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>>39450437
>be injured
>nah my form is fine
Equating time doing a movement to proficiency is entirely false. Just because you quarter squat for 20 years doesn't mean you're not doing it incorrectly.
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>>39450813
>If you were doing the movement correctly you wouldn't have a weakness
Overhead presses very weakly develop the supraspinatus.

>and regardless such a small muscle isn't going to have such a disproportionate impact on your lifting
Rotatorcuff issues are a major thing.
Just websearch it for a plethora of examples.

>You said you're experiencing pinching
Nah, that was some other anon.
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>>39450834
This feels like nobody here knows anything about handling this specific injury and people just parrot
>muh bad form
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>>39450837
>Overhead presses very weakly develop the supraspinatus.

Let me expand: if you were doing the movement correctly and additionally doing all of the prehab work you should be doing, which includes strengthening the muscles of the rotator cuff, then you shouldn't have a weakness.

>Rotatorcuff issues are a major thing.
Your rotator cuff is composed of more than the supraspinatus.

Clicking is a sign that a muscle or tendon is rubbing and snapping over bony structures, which means you have since inflammation that is a result of your doing the movement incorrectly and rubbing sobe muscle against and over a bony structure.
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>>39450860

You are probably misdiagnosing yourself, that's why we want to see what you're doing.

If you don't want to do presses, fucking don't. You don't need or permission not to. Christ.
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>>39450860
Why don't you take a step back and chill out with your ego? You say you have a problem with your superspinatus; we ask for a form check vid to try and diagnose what may be causing the problem so that we can see whether you just need to back off from overhead work like you asked or if there's a deeper fundamental problem.

Unless you did something mighty retarded in the gym, injuries tend to come about from improper form. It seems like you just want to hear your own suggestion come from someone else's mouth.
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>>39450891

it's not always inflammation, some injuries will always click afterwards regardless. Mine does (painlessly) after a RC tear 2 years ago
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>>39450891
Finally someone mentions something else, prehab work.
I don't think I did any specific supraspinatus work.
Do people even do that?

No shit, the rotatorcuff is composed of more muscles. That has nothing to do with the fact that if just one of them is fucked, you still can get injured.

I wasn't doing the movement incorrectly. Only after my supraspinatus got fucked, my shoulder would occasinally click, because the supraspinatus couldn't stabilize it properly.
Other way around.

>>39450897
I've made it multiple times clear that my form isn't the issue, and that I don't care about replies that imply that.
It's fine to say "you might be misdiagnosing yourself, so can we see a vid of your form?", but if someone then says multiple times that it's not his form, why the fuck would you insist on seeing a video?

>>39450911
See comment above.
I don't want to hear my own suggestion.
I'd be happier if someone told me I could continue pressing overhead.

Assuming overhead press form is fine and my supraspinatus is weak or fatiqued, should I still continue pressing overhead, and bench pressing?

>>39450913
You always seem to know a lot about these kinds of things, what do you think to my question above?
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>>39450958
Repeatedly insisting your form is fine without any proof beside an stating an arbitrary amount of time you've been practicing the movement does not "make it clear" form is not the issue. It's very clear you came in here hoping someone would give you a clear yes/no answer about overhead work, and you've literally just said you're turning a blind eye to anyone that may imply it's your form.

You came into the thread for help, anons are trying their best to, but when they suggest something that doesn't align with what you want to hear, you act immature and basically go NUH-UH. Ridiculous. Go press or don't. It's ultimately your choice; this anonymous peruvian date-drying exchange can only offer so much.
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>>39451011
What kind of shit response is this?
>it literally can't be anything else except your form on one specific lift
Ofcourse it fucking can.

I just want to know if doing overhead/bench presses is a good or bad idea with a weak or fatiqued supraspinatus.
For fucks sake, admit you just don't know the answer to that or don't respond.
What the fuck is this bullshit.
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>tfw too much of a pussy to get under the barbell

I power clean 112kg but whenever I try to get into a full clean my body just says nope
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>>39451057
What an immature little cunt you are. Nobody is fucking implying the sole cause is improper form. We want to see your form because it may lead to a proper diagnosis of what is wrong. Do you understand the word diagnosis, you ungrateful shiteater?

Nobody can tell you what to do because nobody knows what's causing your weak/tired superspinatus because you refuse to post a simple form check.

But keep being a selective reader and continue being mad.
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>>39451122
Literally everyone is implying the sole cause is improper form.

You don't have to care what caused it to be weak/tired. It just is.
I need advice on whether or not to do overhead/bench, that's it.
A form check that shows good form doesn't fucking help anyone.

>selective reader
call me blind, but all ive seen is shitposts on my form and no advice or suggestions.
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>>39451159
>You don't have to care what caused it to be weak/tired.

so you dont actually want help is what you're saying

just people to tell you to do it or not regardless of what caused it

you are dumb as shit lmao
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>>39451168
The muscle got strained because of a weird movement I made during sex.
It got strained because of repeatedly jerking off because I can't get laid.
It got weak because I didn't do any specific exercises for it.

The reason doesn't fucking matter.

Given A, is B a good or bad thing to do?
>yeah, b-but how did A get established?
it doesn't fucking matter
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>>39451202
good job buddy
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>>39451229
fucking autists here...

here's how it goes with a normal person:
hey, my x got fucked, should I do y?
*did it get fucked by doing y?
no, there's no problem with y

*ah, okay. well, y can impair healing of x, so don't do it.
OR
ah, okay. well, y can actually strengthen x, so you should do it.

okay, thanks.
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>>39451159
Yeah I'm going to call it selective because I literally said that we can't give you advice or suggestions because we don't know what the problem is. Weak/tired supersinatus is a SYMPTOM and we're asking for a form check to diagnose the CAUSE.

>A form check that shows good form doesn't fucking help anyone.

And here we come to the crux of the problem. What an ego you have. Maybe your form isn't perfect. Maybe form checks are one of the most common ways to identify problems, but fuck me, what do I know, right? You are the one seeking help, have some humility. Why don't you keep your mind open to suggestions you weren't expecting?

Whatever, take what you will from this exchange. You were an enjoyable time waster while I was rolling out my glute, but I'm off to be with better company.
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>>39451260
you type like an autist and i hate u
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>>39451255
meanwhile, on 4chan

hey, my x got fucked, should I do y?
*did it get fucked by doing y?
no, there's no problem with y
*but is there?
no, there isn't.
*there might be, are you sure?
yes, im sure.
*there's probably a problem with y
no, there's not. can we get past this?
*no, we're autistic, we need to see a video.

>>39451260
it's not a fucking sympton, it's the fucking cause.
if the stupid ass muscle wasn't weak/fatiqued, there would be no fucking problem.

>why don't you keep an open mind
I do. Maybe my form isn't good enough, whatever video I post, there will always be someone who thinks it's shit.

>Take what you will from this exchange
Which is nothing, because no one has given an answer to my fucking question.

How autistic do you guys have to be for me to have to preface a question about an injury with "it's not my form, don't reply if you're just gonna shit about my form, i just want to know how to rehab it."?
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>>39451311
dude if you are so good at making sure there's no problem with it why did you even ask

you apparently know everything
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>>39451322
are you serious?
is it this hard to believe that I know my form is fine while not knowing how an exercise might affect rehab of a certain rotatorcuff muscle?

so anyone who knows about form knows literally everything about rehab?

c'mon
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>>39446573
If you look closely you can see they are actually 2.5kg weights
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>>39451370
it's because you're an idiot

you've been lifting for 2 weeks you dont no shit lmao
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>>39451396
I've even said in this very fucking thread that I've been doing overhead presses for over 4 years.
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>>39442442
>he's too retarded to figure out how to put a barbell over his head without dropping it
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>>39442439
Fake weights
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>>39451574
G E N I U S
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>>39447122
Samantha lower I think she quit lifting
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>>39451407

Okay, look: as you yourself said, the supraspinatus is minimally involved in the press, so why would cutting pressing help you? Likewise, the clicking you're feeling probably isn't your supraspinatus, which is why we're led to believe something else is up which, further, is why we're asking for a video.
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>>39452026
Stop saying we fucking asshole you don't speak for anyone but yourself

You asked for a video cause you're a faggot who loves to watch other men lift ok?
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>>39452089

There are multiple people responding to your horseshit. It has been cheat for awhile that you're just trying to get a rise out of someone in the hope that they betray some ignorance that you can grill them about. You're probably from /plg/ and you're probably buttmad a bunch of twink faggots can C+J your DL max.

Run along now, cunt.
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>>39452026
Also you're an idiot, even if the rc is minimally involved in directly moving the weight doesn't mean it's not the problem

It's there to hold the humeral joint moving freely inside the socket, if its weak then it's gonna fuck him up

You are both idiots

Stop saying we you bitch fuck
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>>39452111
I'm not him you fucking idiot
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>>39452122

THE SUPRASPINATUS IS ONLY ONE MUSCLE IN THE ROTATOR CUFF
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>>39452246
Yeah and the guy can basically pinpoint which muscles hurt because he's an expert like you are form check fag
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>>39452280

His supraspinatus shouldn't hurt if he's going overhead. It also wishy be causing the clicking in his shoulder as he's going overhead. He probably didn't even know where his supraspinatus is in his shoulder. If the problem is his rotator cuff, it's one of the other muscles, maybe a tendon, but it's not his supraspinatus.

Asking him to do band pull aparts for a few weeks before he lifts isn't going to help him because it's not addressing the problem.
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>>39452311
>supraspinatus
>concentrically accelerates abduction of the arm
>would hurt directly going up

m8 u fukcin wot
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How strong can I expect to get natty?

6'1 18 yo 236lbs right now
In Lbs, 245/380/415

Also did 200lb x 1 x 5 Power/squat cleans today

Did SS in September, started Texas method in October. Currently doing a 4 day split of it with two volume days and two intensity days.

In august I did 225lb for 3 sets of triples thinking it was hard/heavy. How I can triple 330. Tomorrow I will be doing 335 for a triple or a 5.

Obviously the weightlifting stuff will add in more later, getting my strength up now
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>>39452389

There's no real way to answer this. Individual results vary hugely and there's no definitive drug-free numbers around.
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>>39452394
how many pounds should I expect to add to the lifts within a year?

Should I drop my body weight? Or maintain?
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>>39452334
>His supraspinatus shouldn't hurt if he's going overhead.
>SHOULDN'T
>HURT
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>>39452428
meant wouldnt

(it would)
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>>39452454

Only if you're looping your elbow out to the very side of your body as you're going up.
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>tfw you try to walk out your jerk but you have a tiny platform to lift on

I did make it cleanly a few attempts later. 100kgs, btw. Any pointers?
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>>39450958

I'm not going to get dragged into this at all and I barely skimmed the debate, but pain is the guide is literally the only principle you need to apply in these situations. As long as you're using good form and there is no pain, go for it.

The biomechanical aspects of lifting weights (in general) can really not be simplified beyond this basic principle
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>>39446545
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>>39452601
relax your glutes more and follow through with the weight centered on your back. it'll give you more stability
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>>39452402
that question is impossible to answer. you have to see by yourself, according to your own goals, etc etc
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>>39450716
>insufferable attention whore?

She does everything that every woman on social media does.

This just in: women are attentionwhores
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>there's something wrong with my body its making sounds and gives me pain
>Should I go to a doctor/physical therapist (two people that have obtained nationally and internationally recognized liscenses in their profression to treat these kinds of problems)?
>Nah better post on a syrian migration enthusiasts forum
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competition in 3 hours
gimme your best advice
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>>39454049

Don' fuck up
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>>39454049
Imagine the audience in their underwear.
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>>39454153
kek nice one
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>>39454049
POST WEBM WHEN YOU'RE DONE
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>>39454049

poop on the platform to play mindgames with opponents
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>>39454049
smelling salts
don't be afraid to contest a redlighted lift if you think it was good. even if they don't give it to you, they might be unconsciously "easier" on the next attempt.
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>>39454153
Boner stopped the bar and I failed all my lifts.
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>>39454653
>not having a micropenis
you weren't meant to make it anyway
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>>39450760
We're on pendlayforum so now gone forever
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quick question, can do powercleans tomorrow? i did deadlifts and squats today as well as VERY light PC.
i want to practice on my form, and have nothing to do tomorrow so i thought, is it okay to do PC's again tomorrow after dl and squats today?
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>>39452122
>It's there to hold the humeral joint moving freely inside the socket, if its weak then it's gonna fuck him up
Okay, that answers my question, thanks for being the only one to actually answer my question.

>>39452925
Thanks for also answering my question, Caladan.
As the clicking didn't happen before I got the supraspinatus issues, I'm afraid it indicates an improperly stabilized shoulder joint.

So one anon advocates not doing overhead work, if I interpret him correctly.
And Caladan says I can go ahead because I'm using good form and there isn't pain.

Thanks for both responses.
As I don't know which one of you is correct, I'm gonna go with the safest route.
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>>39455078
Unless you're an elite athlete I know for a fact you're not training with enough intensity and volume to over-train, so go ahead
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>>39455112
aight, thanks, it wasnt so much overtraining i was worried about.
it was more the chances of injury if my lower back and legs are pretty tired from squats and dl today
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>>39455112
>Unless you're an elite athlete I know for a fact you're not training with enough intensity and volume to over-train
That's not true at all.
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>>39455083
>Okay, that answers my question, thanks for being the only one to actually answer my question.

He's talking about the whole rotator cuff. How does that answer your question?
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>>39454049
>>39454063
>>39454153
>>39454414
>>39454420
>>39454432
I FAILED THE SNATCH 3 TIMES YOUR ADVICE WAS SHIT OH NO WAIT I WAS SHIT
argh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac-oHvvxDN0
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>>39456221

Comm, you really need to get situated with a real coach. You have actual potential in this sport. Don't waste it.
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>>39456260
Im le best coacg in the area
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>>39452601
anyone else?

>>39453059
which part of the lift are you talking about?
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>>39456260
dude ivan coaches him personally
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Hey can I get a form check I mean a check for my form some advice for my technique how good my technique is thanks bless ya.
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>>39457186
>Hey can I get a form check
no
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>>39457186
top kek
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>>39457186
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>>39452601
Really forward on the jerk. Shin should be vertical senpai.
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Its my first competitive meet tomorrow, anything i should be expecting?
Any tips?
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>>39447696
>tfw watching 94 class for lithuanians
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>>39457980
Thought he was a 105? Atleast sure he was at some point. Regardless didzbalis and big zyg are two of my faces to watch, dunno why, it's not like they're pretty lifters. Example of getting it done with brute force I guess
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>>39457186
yeah, the only way to fix your form is to kill yourself. maybe you'll lift more in hell.
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FRONT SQUAT PR

190KG X 4

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNAWYbeDzxE/

Hang snatch 120 and 125

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNAkbOZDjtk/
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>>39457186

You need to extend. Right now you're just hopping like a faggy little rabbit.

You don't get to lift your feet off the platform for the next month. You can and should come up on your toes, but that's it. So, start your feet in your catch position or a little narrower, pull and EXTEND. Get the bar as high as you possibly can. Use your traps, shoulders, and arms, and DO NOT lose contact with the floor.
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>>39458504
What the fuck is that guy in the background doing?

"power cleans"?
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guys i dont really do weightlifting but i do high bar squats in a similar fashion to olympic athletes and at what weight should i start wrapping my knees in order to not fuck them?
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>>39458524
You don't have to wrap your knees, it's only necessary for comfort or if you have knee issues.
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>>39458544
ah ok i assumed everyone started doing it at some point because most of the big lifters ive seen use them. thanks
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>>39458504
Serious question dudkz
Do you think getting v strong is a viable way to get round limitations in natural ability to go under bar and mobility and stuff?

I don't mean that to be offensive but ur Def more a brute force lifter. Have you done much work to get flexible etc or just really got strong

Looking joocy btw
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>>39458504
that's too much apt on that second snatch
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How to stop the jumping into air like blueshoes? Is it just cos his mass is greater than the weight he lifts? Not actively trying to jump, just come off the floor when extending...
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>>39459585

it happens when you focus on smacking the bar up rather than extending your body up and finishing the pull
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>>39459906
I don't focus on smacking the bar up tho. I focus on extending hard with my legs and keeping bar close. It's not flying away from me like blueshoes but I am deffo moving up with the bar momentarily. If I try to pull under I cut my pull short. It is frustrating
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Correct where I fuck up here.

>cleans
The point on your leg where you thrust the bar is a few inches above the knee

>snoothy
The point where the bar contacts is the crease of the hip
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>>39460025
"contact" points are crease of the hip and mid to high thigh for snatches and cleans respectively
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>>39458764
I don't have time to work on mobility but if I did I would. I think fro snatch I'm okay but for my jerk I need to do a lot of mobility work if I want it to be good. Honestly I'm only lifting 3 times a week right now and only squatting twice a week so I don't know why my front squat is so big. Like I maxed out 175 by 4 a week ago and I just did 190x4
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>>39460042
thanks
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>>39459946

let's put it this way, if you do a no contact sn then you don't leave the floor right?
>>
You guys know of any good beginner programs for someone looking to get in to Oly lifts? I've been recommended the following..

Warm up
8x Double Snatch
8x C&J
5x5 Front Squat
5x3 Overhead press

This going to be okay for someone starting out? What would you guys remove, add, or change?
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all i want for christmas is big booty wl gf
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>>39461556
That dog is qt and she would be too if it weren't for the tattoos.
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>>39461571
weightlifting chicks are super hardcore and they need tattoos to show that. because, you know, lifting weights is hardcore.
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>>39461582
dyel virgem stop talking
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How often do you guys back squat and DL?
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>>39461556
lmao 0:10 legit thought her tit popped out
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>>39462264
twice a week and once a month
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>>39458509
>Get the bar as high as you possibly can. Use your traps, shoulders, and arms, and DO NOT lose contact with the floor.
You should be going under the bar while the bar is still going up. If you keep pulling it until you no longer can, you have lost time getting under the bar.

And it doesn't matter if your feet leave the floor, as long as you can utilize your muscles fast and strongly, and get under the bar even faster. For some athletes this means feet staying like glued to the floor, for others it means some air between when they start to get under. You see world records in both ways.
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>>39460099
No, but how do I stop it happening? It's irrelevant that it doesn't happen during no contact if I don't know how to stop it during full snatch

Tbh I think it's as much a symptom of not actively going under the bar for me. Kind of extend and move feet rather than extend, move feet, pull under. But whenever I try to focus on an aggressive pull under I short pull.

Just kill me. Snatch is so frustrating
>>
plan on doing rack pulls instead of deadlifts to get a better back. I do squats and lots of hamstring accesory work as well (not on back day ofc). Do or don't? I train for aesthetic reasons not strength
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>>39462873
This isn't the thread for you m8
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>>39462863

just remember to keep pulling the bar up during the whole lift

keep in mind I'm not very strong I just happen to have had a similar issue, just jumping backwards
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>>39460701
Are you new to lifting in general or just to oly lifts?
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>>39462863
Don't overthink it mate, it will just lead to frustration.

1) Do a few warm up / weakness snatch exercises before you start your snatch workout. Like snatch deadlift + snatch pull 3x(3+3)x50% and tall snatch 3x3x50%. Focus on technique things, don't rush these

2) Start your snatch workout, and snatch with your weaknesses. Focus more on SPEED. Don't overthink "have i extended enough" or "should i move my feet now and get under". Think about accelerating the bar FAST and getting under it FASTER. The fun thing here is, that if you manage to utilize your muscles strong and fast, you have to extend fully. And if you want to get under the bar fast, you have to fuse the second and third pull together. If you cut your pull short, it means that you didn't give your everything in the power position.

Over time your tech work will carry to the snatch. Over time you will get stronger and faster, not just better at positions. And you will probably enjoy it and not get frustrated (so much)
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>>39464255
GOTTA GO fast

yeah just snatch faster guaranteed solve all your problems 100%

speed kills hehe
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>>39462617

I am trying to get him to stop doing this >>39457888
This is not proper technique, and part of the problem is his tendency to hop rather than extend. By keeping his feet stuck to the floor he cannot hop, and is forced to extend and utilize other muscles to gain the needed bar height to get under. This has nothing to do with a style of lifting; it's about correcting an obvious error.
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>>39451101
I get this feel on all oly exercises at new maxes, just try with lighter weights till u feel more confident
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>>39464652
From my experience the biggest flaw in self-coached lifters is not the technique, but the lack of speed. It makes a difference when you have a coach who pushes you to accelerate and get under the bar faster and faster. You just really can't do the second pull and third pull slowly (with good amount of weight), it will never feel right or natural.But this doesn't mean that you should rush the first pull and ignore all the other things totally.
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>>39466047
Ur experience is shit
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApLLIblmh04


Is he, dare I say it, back?
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>>39462264
back squat 2-3 days a week, deadlift almost never. I occasionally test my deadlift to see if it's gone up with only doing squats, which it tends to. I did a front squat only cycle, which took my 260lb front squat to 300lbs. Consequently, my deadlift (which I did not train) went from 335 with a belt and straps to 350 without straps or a belt.
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>>39466140
No ur retarded
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>>39466140
No, he's overweight and freely blasting steroids.
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>>39457186
why on earth do you go down after the catch???
also, catch it lower
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>>39462617
>>39465037


I can only speak for myself but it's really hard to pull myself under the bar when it weighs less than me and I can basically get it overhead without any momentum.

Cons of being strong before I started oly lifting I guess.
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What's up /owg/, normie here who decided to dick around with some hang cleans today. Figured i'd post a form check bc I'm kind of interested in trying WLing. Anyway, how bad?
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>>39450523
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>>39466838
How bad? Pretty bad mate. Bring your hips to the bar, not the bar to your hips. You have an S shape bar path right now, in a really bad way. I almost thought it was a snatch during the second phase. Try to keep the bar closer the entire time.
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>>39466838
See pic. Bar is far away from body. Not such a great position. Shrug up, not out.
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>>39466677
>I can only speak for myself but it's really hard to pull myself under the bar when it weighs less than me

that's because you're actually weak in proper positions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX2vmcIPbjA

do those everyday

you're not dropping into the squat you're going down to it with control, if your body stops way above parallel then teach it how to go down by actually squatting the weight down everytime it happens till eventually you learn how to smooth it out like what you see most lifters do, you just think they drop down into it but they dont
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>>39466956

Thanks. I'll do these from now on. I need to work on my bottom position in the OHS. I think it's my ankles but I can't really get my shoulders far back either.
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>>39466909
>>39466885
Thanks. Anything else?
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>>39466838
you're not lifting enough weight
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blueshoe here your fucking dead kids

i clean jerk 76
watch out
80 soon
90 clean soon

that all thank
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>>39467176
you clean and jerk less than your bodyweight. just quit.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BNCr_W9jjhW/?taken-by=jonsteinhaur
finally hit a new snatch pr
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>>39467341
>>39467341
and i snarch more than your bodyweight and total...

win some you lose some kid
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How do I stop being afraid of the jerk?

I can OHP 60kgs and the most I've jerked is 70kgs but some times I lose the confidence. I can clean 80kgs but jerking it overhead is pretty scary.
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>>39467608
jerk more

stop being a faggot
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>>39467608
have you tried jerking it more often kid?

dont go really heavy all the time sometimes you gotta take your time and just do it over and over real light till explodes if u know what i mean
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>>39467608
Discipline. Keep you tech the same even when it feels heavy.

I had/have a lot of trouble with jerk, it was way behind my clean. It's getting better now simply by being focused and putting some effort in.

What helped me;
Keep dip straight, don't let chest drop, and punch through the bar, don't just catch it at arms length and stop, keep pushing through the whole time.
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>>39467610
>>39467620
>>39467641

Alright thanks guys. I mostly just do the entire movement. I'll start parcticing the jerk from rack a bit more
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>>39467657
Jerk off rack or blocks helps isolate the problem but don't negate c&j and clean, if ur clean is tough or you have to re rack more than normal it'll sap you for the jerk

Also power jerk is good to work on straight dip and drive
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