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Steroids general.

MasT is proud of himself edition.
No thread to link to.

Also is it a good idea to mix test tren mast?
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Dota makes me suicidal even when I win I swear. 5.1k average fucking mmr game and I get an axe mid, Chen and Mirana dual jungle with Mirana walking top and feeding, and an afk farming sand king. Idk how the fuck I carried that game, but I don't feel happy from winning that, just empty, and ready to commit the genocide of the Asian and South American populations.
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>>39434605
I get this feeling with overwatch, no one fucking teams up
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>>39434605
Nerd
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>>39434612
It isn't even about teaming up, people just don't play well whatsoever and don't want to play well. I don't understand it.

>>39434613
That's what people said about Hitler. Just a cute little art nerd, and he killed millions of Jews, gypsies, and poles.

Keep pushing me at this rate and it'll be the asians and central/South Americans.
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>>39434634
Can I be your himmler
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>>39434642
You can be whatever you want, anon, as long as you swear allegiance to the natTzi party and me as the leader.

Our goals are the destabilization, destruction, and genocide of all of central/South America, and China/south east Asia.
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>>39434634
Well, people play well on overwatch and want you to fucking heal but just dont fucking team up its causing me roid rages
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>>39434667
Let the hate flow through you. Join the NatTzi party, kill all those who suck at video games is our goal.
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Anyways I'm going to bed. Ciao.
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JBFLGF
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>>39434634
>That's what people said about Hitler. Just a cute little art nerd, and he killed millions of Jews, gypsies, and poles.

You talk like that this was something bad
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why is fraud the cosiest general?
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>Work at gym desk
>Hear a lot of /fraud/ talk
>Yesterday two guys stand at the desk, talking /fraud/
>I've trained with one of them
>I've endured hours of him saying "I just seem to be putting muscle on really easily." "I've only been working out a few months" "I just keep getting stronger."
>I've got nothing against /fraud/ but all his "It just comes easy" brags left a sour taste.
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>>39434788

Those are the worst, taking juicy and claiming it's all of muh natty genetics.
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Thinkgen about taking roids.

Course I have in mind:

Turinabol - 40 mg/day x 42 days
PCT - 20mg/day x 21 days

Current stats:
squat 170kg x 3
bench 140kg x 3
ohp 85kg x 3
diddly - ????
bw 100kg
age 26

How much can I expect to gain on this course? ~5kg of muscle? +10-20kg to lifts?
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>>39434788
I love those people, Why? They start roiding, and after the cycle is done they lose all the gainz they got and wonder why
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>>39434605
steam?
we're never gonna play together though 2k scrub
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>>39434856
>scared of needles
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>>39435015
I found it on this Russian roid wiki as a beginner course. I doubt I need larger doses, I reckon I could easily progress natty, I just want results faster.
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>>39435028
>no test
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Yet another fatass on DNP here (not rlly). Is it true that the scale and mirror lies until you come off? Been losing weight just not as fast as I thought I would, but I am a lot leaner noticeably. But I also feel and look like I am retaining a lot of water. I have a very saggy appearance.

Skinfold measurements are not changing, but I am gaining definition and losing weight. Does that indicate water retention?
>>39434856
Kill yourself.
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>>39435048
>>39435102
Thanks for the help faggots.
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>>39434856
Results on orals are way less than injectables, go pin or add orals to your cycle
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>>39435188
go back to your russian roid forum if you don't like what you're told
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>>39435102
yes

all your dumb fat becomes water

1 week post DNP you should actually see the changes
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>>39434576
>tfw I want to consider roids
>tfw I'm an Ausfag
>tfw roids are probably never gonna come my way

Fuck brehs.
>Clen is banned
>Yohimbine HCL is banned
>Albuterol can only be got in tiny amounts if you're dying from the inside
>Ephedrine gets you a visit from the feds
>DNP would probably literally be some dude putting weed killer in capsules

It's like the government doesn't want me to make gains. Any Ausfags on here ever even see test e?
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>only slept 4-5 hours last night
>Woke up after 4 hours today

Why. Im only on test.
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>>39435613

Yeah, the internet, the gym, guys at the supplement store etc.

SST son.
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DUTCH PRIDE
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>>39435647
5hours is pretty normal, to me atleast

>Why. Im only on test.
?
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>>39435649
SST?

And the guys at my gym are all pussys, the supplement stores keep turning into fucking natural remedy stores and the internet, well, I don't trust the sites I find by googling.
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>>39435702
banned
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Kut nederlander
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>>39435657
holy shit dutch people look like fucking cucks
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>>39435702
Kek. And down the slippery road I go.

THanks for the spoonfeed, m8. I actually do appreciate it.
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>>39435015
>>39435048
>>39435431
this is the shittiest board ever
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>>39435733
Hou je t kanker gezellig in deze thread?
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>>39435702
another anon here. thanks mate
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>>39435771
>skinheads
>dutch people

are you retarded.
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>people can't find SST without a direct fucking link to it
>these are the people injecting hormones into themselves

christ
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>>39435950
>my gained idea of optimal pattern of action does decide who is worth using steroids and who is not
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>>39435950
you are not welcome here
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>>39435970
>>39435972
>>39435972
i just needed an excuse to say something and post qtczgf pics

leave me alone

pls
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>>39435990
no one gives a shit about your racist gf.

post delicious puffy nips instead
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>>39436008
here yugo bby
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>>39436015
absolutely disgusting

10/10
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>>39436041
that pic makes it look like I shave my bicep or something because of the break in arm to chest hair

kek
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>>39435950
>These people don't understand my obscure acronym used on a grand total of 2 whole websites!
>They clearly aren't mature and special enough to be in my sekret klub!
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>>39436084
>>39436084
>literally googling "reddit SST" brings up r/steroids and related
>people who can't comprehend how to query a search engine in charge of balancing their bodies hormones

shiggy
diggy
doo
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>>39436084
how fucking stupid do you have to be to not know how to use google?

people are hand feeding you this shit and you're complaining that they're not nice while doing it

desu senpai you should kill yourself- but I'm sure the gear will do that to someone as stupid as you
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>tfw on gear but still depressed
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>>39436084
open wide the airplane's coming in for a laaandiiiing
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Sup degenerates?
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>>39436185
try to be on gear and not dyel, anon

being not dyel is they key word here
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>>39434657
>>39434605
stop fucking complaining about pinoys. just fucking try eu west with russians everywhere
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>>39436198
can't decide between buying a PSA upper and stag arms lower or buying a full VEPR platform

pls help
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>>39436209
far bigger than you I bet mr no pics
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>>39436277
try to be on gear and having a jay, anon

having a jaw is they key word here
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>>39436302
post pic of physique and jawline faggot
My jaws fine.
I get more pussy than you ever will.
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>>39436258
the russians I don't mind; they want to win
peru will just throw bodies at the enemy because you took that cs they weren't gonna get
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>>39436273
I say buy a complete gun.
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>>39436387
I was looking at the Ruger 556 for an entry AR; cheaper than the VEPR but also much more meme, and I'll want to mod the shit out of it.

idk mang

probably will just buy complete, can probably find a complete PSA piece t b h
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>40mg dmaa isn't enough anymore
2spoopy4me
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>>39436321
Try donating blood
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>>39436518
My rbc and BP is fine you fucking idiot
how about you stop being a bitchy cunt and post your physique
it's 2016, everyone has a smartphone
take a pic right fucking now or stop replying to my fucking posts with your negative comments you asshole
fat fucking virgin
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>>39436547
lol.

if that is actually you, i dont understand why you are depressed bro
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>>39436582
I'm a broken person. One night stands are easy but I have never been able to get a gf. They all ghost me once they see through my facade and my incredibly poor interpersonal skills come to light. Think I might be aspie. I'm so fucking lonely.
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>>39435613
You have to be retarded to use any of the drugs you specified. You can lose the weight without spending money on those and suffering needless sides.
Only roids are useful.
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>>39436612
Get a daki
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>>39436625
>>39436612
get TWO dakis
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>>39436625
Hey jerr
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>>39436653
jojo is ok but over rated
it's not nomie tier but tumblr fan art/cringe tier.
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>>39436625
>>39436653
aww jojolion's the only manga I read
how can I gain your respect jerr
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>>39436669
That's even worse though
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>>39436653
Psh that guys probably a jojo shipper
The worst of all

>>39436678
Respect yourself first
Also beat up that guy who said Azusa is shit
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>>39436817
When do I get to expand my rare jerrys collection?

You're my favorite namefag
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>>39436883
>fat bloated weebo cuck
>favourite namefag

WEW
E
W
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>>39436903
who are you?
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>>39436883
In forever after Ive cut
Bulking out of surgery was an awful idea

>>39436903
You mad, you mirin, you jelly?
You mad.
You mirin.
You jelly.
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>>39436893
what did you mean by this?
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>>39436903
>unknown tripfag
>getting jealous on a Japanese iPhone making board
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>>39436906
i have been lurking fraud for like 8 months.

I am 21 now and just recently decided that steroids arent as bad as i thought they are, thus injected my first cattle hormone of 250mg test e 5 weeks ago.

I am also on BnC and plan to be so, for atleast 1 year, prolly 2 years.

I browse fraud literally everyday (and shitpost too) and thought it'd be time to make a trip as i like to talk and engage in this totally steroid related thread where everyone totally isnt blogging or a racist, making fun of jews and leftists.

>pics, dyel?

soon

maybe you remember pic related
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I want to be able to grab people by the waist and press them over my head (because autistism just roll with it)

I can press decently, 185 strict for 3-4 reps, but there's a huge sticking point between getting a person from the ground into a position I can press from.

What sort of autistic training should I do to train hip to shoulder pressing strength?
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ugh I'm a sweaty mess at work

it's so gross

there's like a puddle on the back of my dress shirt
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>>39437022
Lmao is everyone on fucking DNP? Holy shit!!!

Also nolvadex make me basically braindead and have shit memory from brainfog , while raloxifene seems to enhance my cognition

Anyone else notice this?
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>>39436903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
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>>39436893
>looking at this gave me an anxiety attack from the days of my whole class failing an organic chemistry quiz because the professor only teaches the concepts properly after everyone gets it wrong
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>>39436986
olympic lifts?
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>>39437031
seems to be a pretty common side effect with nolva. I usually get very mild sides from anything gear related but nolva makes me feel like I just slept 16 hours,
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>>39437031
Yeah, it's just the right time with it getting cold in the northern hemisphere

one week left then it's back on cycle to bulk
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>>39437031
>>39437095

gotta save that DNP for jan- that way you can hop on tren by feb and look your best come springtime
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>>39436906
notop's cousin apparently
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>>39437067
Nah, the difficulty is overcoming the bad leverages not necessarily the weight itself, and oly lifting is about efficiency of movement.

Im thinking stuff like log press, and maybe really heavy sandbags would work.
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Roid Rage is starting to creep up me a little.
finding my self either overly angry at little things or more dispondent than normal.

ONLY JUST FINISHED WEEK 1 OF TREN
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Am I sabotaging my cut by temporarily using wholemeal bread as a main part of my (rather limited) carb budget?

We all know a calorie isn't a calorie (else phil heath would be cutting on oreos and cornbread).

im just really sick of beans and lentils, yknow
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>>39437525
ever heard of vegetables or rice/oats, american goyim?
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>>39437525
>that guy who started roiding knowing nothing about nutrition
smH
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>>39437525
>calorie isn't a calorie

stopped reading
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>>39437618

>3000 calories of pure refined sugar and olive oil is equivalent to 3000 calories of salmon, brocolli and brown rice

this is what happens when stupid shit natties come here trying to fit in with the banter/sexy pics
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>>39436970
>euro pharmaceuticals

good taste moosey!
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>>39437425
mfw my natty friend is more ragey than I am
>he snapped at a guy dropping 2pl8 deadlifts
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>>39437758
>snapping at a complete beginner
wew lad
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>>39437781
nah he was doing mixed grip sumo with gloves, went all the way up to ~365#
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Morning all.

>>39436339
You summed up my feelings exactly. Join the NatTzi party, the Russians are cool, the Peruvians all die.

Fucks sake even Peruvian "pro" teams suck balls. And they're still delusional enough to think they're good at dota.
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>>39436277
You know what god said to me, when i met him;

NO BODY PICS = DYEL
NO FACE PICS = UGLY
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>>39437886
I'm EC so I have very good ping to EUW and play there sometimes

I've had way more Russians give up and destroy their items before the 5 mins mark due to some perceived slight than I have peruvians/argentinians. they get triggered really easily. Russians are much better players overall than South Americans. Also they tend to not have 250ms ping unlike SA subhumans. Russians are kind of like our Chinese.

I don't play USW though so I've never experienced Pinoys, they don't touch USE or EUW
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Norwayfag here, 23 years old have posted a few times about my situation.

Blood test from four years ago had me at 17.6 total test nmol/l

Blood test two weeks ago had me at 13.2 nmol/l total

I asked for the doctor to refer me to a urologist, but I just got a text from my doctor that the urologist "confirmed" that my levels were perfectly normal.

Appearantly having the test levels of a 90 year old man is perfectly fucking normal.

What should I do now? Try and contact another urologist for a second opinon?

I've considered self medication but I don't want to get fucked by the law.
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>>39436273
Stag arms lower seems super fucking overpriced.

Budget?

My advice is to build build build your first AR. Very fun and you get the gun you want without wasting money.
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>>39438101
you will never ever ever be prescribed trt at nearly 400ng/dl

second opinions don't matter, unless you manage to crash it to sub 200 for the next test
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>>39438135
Also, inb4 backwards front sight - I know, it's an old pic
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For my second cycle, gonna go with Test + Deca.
Rate my idea
i wanted diana + test at first, but heard diana is strong vs hairline, unlike deca
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>>39438101
If you want legal TRT seek out some clinics that advertise it or find reviews of doctors who are more sympathetic

In the US, I found a naturopathic clinic that will give me TRT as long as I do 2 months of HCG to see if it produces any improvement.
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>>39438155
deca is a bad idea for a cycle.

steroidcalc.com plot it for a 14 weeks cycle of pinning but make the graph show until week 30 and you'll understand why

keep it for when you start b&cing
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>>39438093
I can deal with that. It's the shit play, playing on servers they have shit ping to, the shit talk they all constantly say, and feeding that irks me more than anything. subhuman is exactly why we need another genocide. Join the NatTzi party. The Chinese might be able to mostly live if they agree to play on region locked servers and not exit their containment unit to play on 300 ping us/eu servers.
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test
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>>39438230
whos your worst and best list of tripfags for the board ?
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>tfw cardio becomes running the stairs in your house cuz you dont want to go outside

N e e t m a s t e r r a c e
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brehs, i cant find albuterol anywhere, literally no where on reddit for sarmsourcetalk or steroidsourcetalk
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>>39438166
well, i am b&cing actually. But gonna end it after my second blast..
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>>39438275
I believe darrius carries it but it might not be listed as alb
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>>39438269
>tfw i do dips in my computer chair on rest days almost tore something in my armpit cuz im too lazy to go out and do shit
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>>39438275
for good reason

don't use albuterol or clen
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>>39438269
i remember when i got introduced to the stair master before, never again will i endure that kind of pain for so little gain.

stationary bike master race
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>>39438297
I love stair master senpai

One day ill get one of these sugar daddys to buy me my own lmao

It's gr8 for dat ass
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>>39438308
i dont need a bigger one, but i can def understand why every fit woman at the gym is on it
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>>39438296
why, people always yell about clenbuterol and albuterol being very risky, but give little to no reason for albuterol. I know clen is something no one should fuck with, but albuterol is significantly easier on the cardiovascular system
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>>39438135
>>39438148

the reason for the stag arms lower being so high is likely just general quality from what I know

very nice manufacture and very fucking durable, partner it with a PSA upper (their lowers can seem kinda cheap) and it'd be pretty fucking good

budget isn't too high, maybe the same as with a VEPR, $800 or so
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>>39438283
well the issue is that deca stays in your system for a long ass time so you can't pct properly. your test will have exited your system many weeks before the deca, so you'll be in sort of a limbo period where you aren't on test anymore and still shutdown but you can't pct because of the deca still in your system.. that means you're in for a baaad time.

if you're b&cing but want to end it after this last blast, keep using test at cruise doses for weeks after the last pin of deca (again, steroidcalc.com it) and sync that with when deca will also be out
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>>39438320
Yeah I can imagine it's got a bit of a gender bias as far as usefulness goes

>>39438326
Both clen and alb can be fine in moderation

It really depends on the person. Some people handle them fine and others git fucked right up

Because of the latter you'll hear a bunch of spooky naysayers but it's crap

Friendly reminder these are the same people sweating smelly dnp pools for weeks
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>>39438357
excuse you, I don't smell at all even covered in sweat
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>>39438369
Is it dnp sweat though senpai

There's a difference

Be honest

It's like comparing curry sweat to water fasting sweat
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>>39438357
you could deep squat your way to a bigger ass and that easily helps out your lower back handle dead lifting a whole lot easier to do the full ROM as a result of your ass being stronger.

ayyy how should i take pictures of myself properly?
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>>39438382
like sweat at a heavy metal concert vs a marathon run kek
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>pin delts
>triceps feel hard and also get red

dunno why, is it because they're connected or something?
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>>39438387
Ass2grass

>pics
Good lighting test angles never do it from below you try a grin and a neutral pose. Sit under a lamp or by a window with natty lighting

Take tons of pics and delete the mehs. Don't hold a pose or smile for too long or it becomes unvanny valley

Candids of guys being goofy or smiling super big always attract me because they look fun, but moody modelesque shots will catch eyes too

Pic related open mouthed smiles like that hnnng me every time and ik I'm not le only girl to like this shit
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>>39438382
yes, I'm on dnp right now and literally covered in sweat at work

doesn't smell

but then again I use deodorant
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>>39438428
thanks for the advice breh good bantz from you as always, this board is so butthurt over your hedonism its gold everytime your on
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Was at the gym and i see this dyel doing the same bicep curls everyday. I see him literally every day doing the same exercise EVERYDAY, without ANY seeing progress whatsoever. I see him looking at himself in the mirror like he's seeing something. How do you dyels keep yourself delusional enough to go on, without seeing any results?

Why would you even train without following a diet? I don't understand. You're wasting your fucking time
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Assuming I was healthy to begin with, had my ancillaries dialed in, and an okay diet, what is the approximate maximum amount of test E I could indefinitely run per week without having to worry about major health issues?
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>>39438327
>VEPR
What caliber senpai? 7.62 x 39 or are you going to go full 308?

If that's your budget maybe pre-bought is better. You'll need some tools like a torque wrench and punches (idk if this is the right word, just basically circular steel/brass things you can hit with a hammer), a vice, and other minor things that might save you some headache. If you don't already have those, they'll eat into your budget quick.

Lower "quality" comparisons are kinda overblown imho. Once you get into the grade above Anderson then you are pretty much looking at the same thing until you get into billet lowers.

I'm very happy with my Aero stripped lower and it was like half the price of the Stag stripped lower. More money to upgrade trigger.

Check out joe bob outfitters. They have some pretty unique and well priced pre-built uppers and lowers. Can't vouch for their quality but there are usually good reviews on their stuff.

If you were going for an AR would you want a carbine size or rifle?
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>>39438487
there's no one answer fits all

and you won't even necessarily notice the problem before you come off/taper off and see your lipids not recovering

I wouldn't go on blast dosages for more than like... 6 months and even then you're pushing it, no point in risking unknown shit. just go for like 20 weeks then cruise and let yourself recover properly
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>>39438484
>poor nattys lifting at gym after work to blow off some steam and keep active
>roided beast with supraphysiological T levels and excellent genetics comes and judges them

Not everyone has the same genetics/goals/motivation as you, how do you not understand that?

You are a god in your own little world, but in other peoples' world the requirements to be a god are different

I will grant you that most DYELs have no motivation to even become a god by their own requirements, but that doesn't somehow make their time in the gym keeping active a waste of time

Now if these dyels are on gear then maybe I see your point
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>>39438439
>but then again I use deodorant

My sides

Kek ty for that

>>39438447
N-not like I l-like you or anything!!!

>>39438484
Become his senpai, masT
Take him under your muscled wing

Introduce yourself by whispering sweet nothings like
'Eatbig2gitbig'
'7 SCOOPS'
Over his shoulder as you walk by

I believe in you
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>>39438523
>caliber
7.62x54r

>tools
family has most of this, cousins and uncle all built their own AR's

>upgrade trigger
what triggers would you recommend?

>carbine or rifle
haven't decided yet, likely rifle but I'm really still on the fence about this.
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>>39438342
will do that, thanks
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>>39438575
>N-not like I l-like you or anything!!!
kek if you where a natural redhead id be white knighting you like a cured cancer patient holds his last testicle on his body
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>>39438580
>7.62x54r
Nice taste, I hope prices on russian surplus will go down if they become more easily available under trump's improved relations with russia

I got a pretty minor upgrade to the ALG advanced combat trigger (ACT) tuned by Geissele and I'm a fan. Light and crisp pull.

I'll move the ACT over to my next build and put a LaRue MBT into my rifle I think. There are some cheaper 2-stage triggers out there but I'd rather go with a well known brand when shelling out that money. You can get MBTs on a deep discount if you don't mind waiting a few months for delivery.

>>39438580
>really still on the fence about this.
Tell me about it. This is what delayed my build the longest - deliberating over this variable (which also influences a few other part purchases like handguard, gas tube, buffer, stock, etc.)

Now that I have it I couldn't be happier with rifle length. Notably gentler than my shooting buddy's 16", not loud af, and just a joy to shoot overall. If you want a nice compromise get an 18"

Or on Joe Bob they have barrels (maybe uppers too) with pre-P&W barrels that are just over 16" including the flash hider to truly get a short profile. They are designed so that you can fit a gas block over the hider.
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>>39438484
>How do you dyels keep yourself delusional enough to go on, without seeing any results?

An excuse to continue my stim/pwo addiction.
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>>39438559
>Not everyone has the same genetics/goals/motivation as you, how do you not understand that?
HAHAHAHAH not the same goals, no are they gonna do at the gym then fuck face. Drink Thea and play checkers?

How do you not understand that?

bla bla genetics fucking excuse. Same excuses fat people use that they can't lose weight. buttt buttt because i am big boned and and and because muhh metabolismmmm. You are the weak cancer this world needs to get rid of. God i hate losers like you, with your fucking weak excuses and weak minded attitude.

And it has NOTHING to do with begin natty. I was bigger natty that all of you on roids. So there goes your worthless meaningless argument. IN THE TRASH, where it belongs with you.

>>39438575
I always give good advice to dyels, but they never have the willpower to really follow it. Why would they otherwise still be skinny?
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Comfy with flutes for now, but does spot injecting make that big a difference? Of the sites you've tried how would you compare them in terms of difficulty?
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>>39438653
>LaRue MBT
aren't those things on a couple months backorder atm? Not that it would matter as you're still planning out the build

thanks for the trigger advice in that regard that, how much did you spend on the trigger and lower total if you can recall off the top of your head?

>rifle vs. carbine
if I went the way of rifle would you recommend just going for an AR10 rather than AR15? Again not entirely familiar with the platform so not sure of the price gap there, but seems like Rifle = AR10; Carbine = AR15, at least in my mind
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>>39438668
>no are they gonna do at the gym then fuck face
Can you really not understand that some people want to go into the gym just to keep their health better and pass the time with some active hobby - not to bulk up or look aesthetic?

Many people have lives and priorities that do not center around how big or strong they are - and they can find happiness/fulfillment in that just as you find happiness in centering your life around becoming as big as possible

You can't deny that genetics have a factor in it. You've even admitted to it. Natty T levels are very much influenced by genetics. Therefore natty muscle building levels are influenced by genetics

I'm not making excuses for fat fucks or DYELs, just explaining why people who aren't as beautiful as you might be that way and don't deserve your scorn

Is there nothing in your life beyond money and size?
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>>39438668
>tfw mast bullies you for not having lifting as your nr 1 priority
I just enjoy lifting. I dont do it to get hueg and shredded. Its just... Fun. Why you gotta h8?
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>>39438719
>he thinks there's more to life than money and size
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>39438668
I play hockey with friends

I don't think I'm going to join the NHL and become the next Wayne Gretzky, I still have fun
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>>39438719

First of all you don't know shit about MasT, you just want to lump him into your preconceived stereotypes

>money
>money
>money

So why are you talking dumbshit?

Anyways,

>responding seriously to masT when he is bait posting

idiot
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>>39438719
>money and size?
Wait there is more than just this?
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>>39438715
>aren't those things on a couple months backorder atm?
No indication of that on their site
You do have to wait a couple of months if you want to pay the lower price

>>39438715
>how much did you spend on the trigger and lower total if you can recall off the top of your head?
175, pic related is the breakdown of the entire build. i didn't include the cost of the vise and other tools in that breakdown. also i messed up on the gas block and had to buy a second one (also not pictured)

>>39438715
>just going for an AR10 rather than AR15?
Well IDK that rifle has to be AR10. The M16 was a very well liked rifle and the M4 is a very well liked carbine, both with different uses

I mean hell if you want a 7.62x54 then a 308 AR10 isn't that big of a jump

But for most urban shtf uses and range shooting, such a large caliber is overkill. Not saying I wouldn't like an AR10 myself but I'd look at the use scenario carefully before committing to these more powerful rounds - cost can go up a lot

If your family already has a bunch of 556 then you'll have an easier time sharing with them if you stick to AR15
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>>39438753
>you don't know shit about MasT, you just want to lump him into your preconceived stereotypes

I've had conversations with masT on numerous occasions and lurked on this fucking thread for ages. There is a way of arguing that makes simplifications to move the conversation forward

Why do you feel the need to interject into other peoples' conversation, faggot?

>>39438753
>idiot
lurk moar, newfriend

responding to b8 is one of the best things about these threads
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>>39438772
thanks for the price chart, I'll look to that to reference some stuff in the future, saved

>10vs15

Yeah I'll just stick with the 15 then after thinking about that since you bring up the ammo situation, especially in a shtf situation.

Will probably go rifle over carbine too, but I'll think on it

thanks for all of the input, much appreciated
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>>39438484
Manlet pls, the irony is palpable.
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>>39438772
Also keep in mind that you can get a build in a lot less than what I did. I was just trying to get gucci meme parts that >>>/k/ recommended

>>39438753
>he doesn't know about counter b8
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>people who can't see past the first level of trolling/metatrolling
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>>39438719
What are you taling about maggot? 90% of you idiots lift no other than FOR GIRLS. FOR APPROVEMENT OF OTHER PEOPLE!!

>but maybe they just have the same goals
This is not looking good for you.

Even the statistics say that 70% of single man lift TO GET MORE MUSCLE. Why? to attract girls of course.

Come one man are you this delusional? They just don't know what the fuck they're doing. That's what's going on.

>Is there nothing in your life beyond money and size?
I guess, since you're so delusional, you will find another meaning to life.

>>39438739
Why don't you share your opinion with someone who cares
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>>39438905
>90% of you idiots lift no other than FOR GIRLS. FOR APPROVEMENT OF OTHER PEOPLE!!
>Why? to attract girls of course.

>projecting this hard

Or maybe not. I doubt you lift for girls. I think when you look at normal people you can say that yes, many normal people lift for girls but on /fit/ you are more likely to find people who lift for reasons completely unrelated to girls because of autism or disillusionment (or delusion in your understanding)

Do you think that anyone who pursues something other than size and money in life is delusional? Are there no people you respect for reasons unrelated to how big or rich they are?
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>>39438905
>Why don't you share your opinion with someone who cares
haha, no reply

masT eternally BTFO and on suicide watch
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Which bitcoin service (and wallet, if you use one) do you guys prefer? I haven't bought bitcoin before.
Does it matter?
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>>39438937
>I doubt you lift for girls
Well many guys grow up and realize girls dont give a shit about muscles but many start off lifting for girls thinking it will help them attract more/better girls
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Where r the Asian sex kitten qts
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>madre is turning 45
>says she feels a midlife crisis coming on

HAHAHAHAH YES IT'S MY TIME TO SHINE AS FINE ENABLER CHILD

Taking her to the gym nd shit too I wonder if I can git my mom on roids lel

I mean my dad already asked for sauce of em
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>>39438963
i like circle because it's easy af to use

idk if it matters
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I just caught my little brother chocking and threatening his gf with a knife, while she was screaming for help. I feel bad now, for injecting him every time with test. I also recently upped the dose.

I am not gonna do it anymore. I don';t want blood on my hands

His roid rages are totally out of control
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>>39439017
Don't be a fool, masT

Money and size are all that matter in life
Don't deprive your brother of his size potential

On a serious note that sucks, sorry to hear that
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>>39439017
>not letting me have your brother so we can threaten each other

What wasted potential
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>>39439017
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>>39438263
best?

Absolute alpha, the only person that MADE IT:
>masT

For entertainment purpose, gives me good kek errtime
>estp
>swollen glands in face faggot
>bimbo

worst?

>notop
>crusader
for obvious reasons


the ones i am neutral about, or atleast respect to some degree

>brick
>cap
>cat piss
>naT
and all the rest
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>>39439042
He has good genetics, but he's a total loser unfortunately. I told him to finish school etc, but he just didn't listen to my advice.

He will probably live of government money for the rest of his life. If he just did exactly what i said he must do, he would make it. But nobody ever listens to me

>>39439057
I don't think you can handle him
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>>39439074
Absolute alpha, the only person that MADE IT:
>jerry

Fixed, you retard
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>>39439017
dude I can't tell if that's part of your usual trolling, but if isn't, you need to get him help or call the cops on him

and get the gf out of there

fuck man, don't blame the roids, your brother is mentally ill and needs help, not just to come off
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>>39439078
Notbf woke me up punching me in the face and tried to stab me, and we all know how I feel about him

I'm sure I can deal kek
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>>39439082
It's not trolling. I am real. I have a different personalty right now.

I am not a snitch and tell on him.

Trust me, it's roids combined with mental illness.Everyone in my family has some kind of mental illness. Roids are just activating it more.

>>39439093
So, it's actually your bf now? I hope it turns out better for you now. You gotta make each other better.

Are you still whoring?
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>>39439074
see>>39439081

jerry is a god among mortals here, even masT worships him
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>>39439115
then I'm being serious, at least help the gf get out of there

I understand caring about your brother and not wanting to ruin his life but she doesn't deserve to be abused by some lowlife
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>>39439115
Notbf and newbf are different people

Newbf wants to make porn/do webcam work/does drugs with me so all my degenerate shit is fine
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hnnnghg there's this qt lifter girl at my gym with those meme bow thigh tattoos. But fuck, she had a nice ass too.
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>>39439132
>at least help the gf get out
I doubt she's being held hostage she probably stays of her own accord

I don't think their relationshit is masTs responsibility

It's one thing to break up a fight but nigga she a grown ass woman
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>>39439074
>naT
>he doesn't even spell my name right

Am I truly just that mediocre?

Nvm you didn't even mention jerry so I guess that counts for something kek.

>>39439078
When do we get pics of him? He sounds as degenerate as ESTP and I plus as built as you, that has to be a combination for greatness to some degree.

>>39439145
New bf sounds like fun. When are you gonna fix your computer?

Also, mom roids progress pics when?
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>>39439172
>tattoos
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>>39439188
His brother looks like me
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>>39439132

She CHOOSEs to stay with him.

Trust me, as someone that has been in that situation, she loves him, she accepts that this is the price she has to pay to stay with him and she stays ANYWAYS.

You COULD NOT get her to leave without a gun to her head.

Also Mast is not a fucking slime piece of shit to snitch on his brother or interfere with his brother's relationship.

How can you do this? to your own brother? You break a bond of trust and you LOSE that brother forever.

Mast's brother just going to have to learn that he shouldn't treat her like that, I did and it's been year+ since I hurt her
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>>39436970
aren't you afraid that it will have bad consequences starting before 25?
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>>39439183
>>39439204
you two are completely delusional. estp is understandable because she's literally mentally insane, but look into battered women and how hard it is for them to get out of abusive relationships. women in this situation are very very often scared for their lives and feel trapped in this situation

I'm sure you can understand how scary it is to tell a guy who choked you and almost stabbed you that you're leaving

whatever, the blood will be partly on your hand masT when your brother snaps and actually kills her
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>>39439251
additional reading: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battered_person_syndrome

I'd lookup more sources but it's a pita on mobile
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Lol
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>>39439219

I blasted from 21 to 24 and came off with no issues. Now 26 with roughly 800ng/dl levels, about to start up again though.

Triptolerin is a hell of a drug. Literally the only thing I took for PCT, waited 2 weeks, pinned it, and that's it. No nolva or clomid necessary, bounced back perfectly.
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>>39436920
>Bulking out of surgery was an awful idea
O RLY
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>>39439204
>>39439017
What is wrong with people doing absolutely degenerate shit like that.

Look at you in 3rd person. How pathetic you are, beating a woman that is screaming and crying in fear. Do you think you look strong and alpha?
Makes me boil out of rage when i see shit like that. I pity you subhumans

>>39439219
I think 21 is a reasonable age to start roiding on something simple as test.
I am also pretty sure i am done with puberty.

But you know what, even if it IS a bad idea for me to start roiding before 25, you wanna know why i would still do it?

25, thats the edge of becoming old. It would take some years to get truly big and jacked, so you would be what, 28 yo at the end? Imagine when you wake up 30 one day. You know you have wasted your best time of your life with...nothing. You didnt do the shit the you always wanted to do. You didnt "yolo" for once in your life. Instead you just eat, shit and work.
Imagine that. Waking up as an adult man one day, you realize that your best time will never come back. You will always have to live with that regret. You lay in bed at night, and wooosh you are remembered for a split second that you have wasted your best years by being a boring fuck.
I would rather kill myself then having to go through this for the rest of my life. Its a literal nightmare.
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>>39439251

I am not MasT without trip. We just both space our posts similar and are not native speakers.

MasT has never done something as shameful as hurting a woman so do not get any ideas about him

I am just telling you that SHE CHOOSES to stay with him because SHE LOVES HIM.

You CANNOT make her leave.

How you plan to make her leave him? What are you going to do? You would report your own FLESH AND BLOOD to police? Or would you go and kidnap her?

MasT should try and talk to him and tell him that what he is doing is not right.

But this advice will be ignored.

Regardless, mast is not her dad, it is not his problem at all. Anything he do in this situation is just charity. His only obligation is keep lifting keep getting bigger
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>>39439291
Probably not. He got a little fat but not eating or cutting post surgery would ensure zero recovery.
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>>39439195
Eh just those on each thigh. Would eat her butt/10

>>39439281
Dat profile pic tho.
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>>39439295

>this judgement

You never made a mistake in your life?

YOu think I am so proud of it? You think I don't regret it? No. It's like slow motion and it happens and you feel terrible and you promise you never ever will do it again and then you do it again

It happens and then what? It's after it happened, what can you do? Change the past?

I am just happy that my girl is still with me and still so loving and still so understanding that this stuff happens.

She cooks, clean, enver whine, complain, I could not ask for better woman
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>>39439315
I took that pic ;^)
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>>39439204
Holy fuck you're delusional. You're maintaining a previously abusive relationship and are proud of the fact you haven't "hurt" her for a whole year? Is this real?

Accept who you are, stop trying to hide it, stop taking advantage of weak willed women, and find someone who compliments you. Holy shit. I admit I'm a sadist who loves inflicting pain on people sexually and emotionally, and openly talk about it to my partners, so what happens? I FIND WOMEN WHO FUCKING LOVE IT AND HAVE A FETISH FOR IT. It's god damn awesome and I love getting kinky as fuck and whipping women with a horse whip and digging my fingers into their back until they bleed, leaving welts and bruises all over their bodies. Orgies, three ways, rope play and bondage, collaring, you name it. I find women who get off on it just as much as I do and it's fucking great.

I don't "hurt" people that don't want it and I don't pretend that I could be happy in a relationship where the woman doesn't compliment my degeneracy. The fact you are perfectly complacent with suppressing who you are and who your partner is either is testament to how hopelessly in love with her you are or how delusional and weak willed you are.

That shit is actually scary, that people like you are out there and might snap at any second because they can't admit who they are or live in a responsible lifestyle with themselves.
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>>39439298
>MasT has never done something as shameful as hurting a woman so do not get any ideas about him
and I'm telling you that turning a blind eye to the problem is just as bad

you can get on your soapbox about not switching and not being her dad, but put yourself in a situation where a guy you could have stopped snaps and kills someone and ask yourself whether you'd feel guilty about it. if the answer is really no, then OK, live with it, but just know you're a piece of shit

the rest of your post I already addressed, she most likely doesn't love him, no, she's scared for her fucking life
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>>39439295
>25, thats the edge of becoming old

tfw 25 and still not roiding
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>>39439291
You wanted me to cut dummy

>>39439281
Nice

>>39439081
>>39439116
Aw shucks
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>>39439335
>switching
snitching
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>>39439321
oh, you're the abuser in a relationship like that, it makes sense that you actually thinks she loves him and how fucking delusional you are

you are subhuman trash. I hope you kill yourself after you realize what you've done.
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>>39439188
I really hope soon but im so lazy

>>39439204
Exactly this

I've been abused and an abuser in relationshits it's not rocket science

>>39439251
Ugh you're one of those people who think addicts aren't responsible for their drug abuse
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>>39439328

> You're maintaining a previously abusive relationship

No, I should abuse her than break her heart to make it better for her.

>i am I I I I I me I do this I do that

But I don't, I just make mistakes. I am not a sadist. I DONT WANT TO DO WHAT I HAVE DONE.

AND I MAKE ACTIVE EFFORTS TO NOT DO IT EVER AGAIN.

>>39439335

> she most likely doesn't love him, no, she's scared for her fucking life

This is a fucking delusion

I do not know why you think soemthing so idiot or what you get in your life from thinking this
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Lmao ignoring makes girls feel so dumb.
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Diagnosed with mixed anxiety depressive disorder today and prescribed trazodone and citalopram. Any of you have experience with them?
>>
who here has taken ostarine alone
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>>39439337
you know what to do, anon.

now or never, or live with regret for the rest of your life

>>39439321
well good thing you regret it.
I just wonder how you made it happen in the first place.
I had times when i was boiling in rage and wanted to kill the person infront of me, but never ever would i touch someone that is close to me.

But then i also had good parents so maybe that plays a role
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>>39439444
Mirin jerrbears how normal are you?
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>>39439321
>I am just happy that my girl is still with me and still so loving and still so understanding that this stuff happens.
>She cooks, clean, enver whine, complain, I could not ask for better woman

the girl I beat to a fucking pulp cooks, cleans and never whines, that means she loves me!

holy fuck I'm triggered. I hate SJWs, laugh at third wave feminists and my blood is still boiling with rage

10/10 if you're a troll, you've done it, I'm mad at the internet

actually, unironically kill yourself if you aren't trolling

>>39439394
>This is a fucking delusion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battered_person_syndrome
>The abused fears for her/his life, and/or, the lives of loved ones whom the abuser might or has threatened to harm (e.g., children-in-common, close relatives or friends).
>The abused has an irrational belief that the abuser is omnipresent and omniscient.
> First, tension builds in the relationship. Second, the abusive partner releases tension via violence while blaming the victim for having caused the violence. Third, the violent partner makes gestures of contrition. However, the partner does not find solutions to avoid another phase of tension building and release so the cycle repeats. The repetition of the violence despite the abuser's attempts to "make nice" results in the abused partner feeling at fault for not preventing a repeat cycle of violence. However, since the victim is not at fault and the violence is internally driven by the abuser, this self-blame results in feelings of helplessness rather than empowerment. The feeling of being both responsible for and helpless to stop the violence leads in turn to depression and passivity. This learned depression and passivity makes it difficult for the abused partner to marshal the resources and support system needed to leave

please help the gene pool and end your life
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>>39439455
more normal then the fucking cheerios you eat for breakfast anon
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>>39439426
maybe tell her that you already have a gf, Mr. Bimo sir
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>>39439321
This is sad. I hope one day you understand why.

>>39439392
Take it to a bestbuy or some shit.

Also IK you weren't talking to me but here's my opinion on the whole drug abuse and addiction thing.

Dependency and addiction isn't something you choose, but the conscious decision to doing it in the first place is. If you're responsible, knowledgeable, do your research, have everything in place, and try a drug under every possible precaution the chance that it might be your love at first sight and hook you from the getgo is an unavoidable consequence even if it's less likely than keeping your shit together. You hear about all the horror stories because the worst consequences get all the media attention.

Addiction is a very emotional/hormonal process desu. I can do cocaine on a binge for a night or jazz out on some mdma and psychs, or snort a bunch of pain pills and be totally fine the next morning and have no urge to do it again whatsoever.

I know people who get hopelessly addicted to Vicodin, percs, norco, and xanax.

A totally personal interaction desu. I quit cigarettes cold turkey after 5 years and daily smoking with no withdrawals besides shivers. Some people can't dream of doing that.

Addiction is as much a mental and hormonal thing as sexual orientation.
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>>39439467
who do you think the girl texting is exactly
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>>39439444
ostarine alone will not do anything.

its so weak, you will see 2 % better gains and thats it.

Otherwise, ostarine is really good for healing/recovery. Like really really good.


Opps forgot trip

>>39439451
>>39439467
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>>39439459
Not every person in an abusive relationship is going to fit your stupid fucking textbook wikipedia rehash

You have no fucking life experience in this regard which is why you can't possibly fathom these things. Your lack of understanding is what triggers your rage
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>>39439496
please never talk about human relationships ever

you can keep talking about your whoring and your sociopathy if you want, but understand that you don't understand human emotions

also end your life
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>>39439017
Is he your younger or older brother

It seems that 90% of younger brothers are always inferior to their older brother
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>>39439394
This is delusion of the highest level. If you truly didn't want to do it you wouldn't, and you wouldn't have the urge to like normal fucking people.

You and I aren't normal. We do not mix well with normal or weak willed people and your justifying it as not breaking her poor wittle heart is pathetic and you should feel bad for being a joke of a man that can't even be honest with himself. You're like a pastor in a church who's closeted gay, he feels horrible for who he is and hates himself for being that way, never once thinking how it might be if he was actually honest with himself how good it would feel and how it would be so much better off for his family who he can't bring himself to actually love on the inside.

Pathetic, and scary imo. You're the kind of emotional psycho who is the most dangerous, the ones who can't be open and honest with themselves most of all so everything gets bottled up until it all explodes.

I pity your significant other.
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>>39439496
>>39439505
also I volunteered at a shelter for abused women while in college so I'll ask you to shut your whore mouth about what I do and do not know
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>>39439219
*cough*
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>>39439490
Would rather fuck right desu. left looks skinny as fuck
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>>39439490
Why not both?

>no /fait/ gf
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>>39439477
I can fix it myself no problem all i need is a 7dollar part off amazon

I'm actually quite good with these kind of things just cba to order the part

&it might be harder for some people than others to get over or resist addiction but at the end of the day displacing the blame from themselves is just enabling the problem

People with ASPD are supposed to incredibly predisposed to addiction. Do I blame the aspd for my drug use? Fuck no

If those people wanted to quit, really wanted to, regardless of the hurdles they could

The bottom line is that they don't fucking want to, not that their brain chem makes them incapable

No excuses for their puny willpowers
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>>39439321
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>You never made a mistake in your life?
you are like the family of the darkies that kill people during robberies over $5 and shit like that

"oh he made a mistake, we all make mistakes"

no robbing stores and killing people is not a mistake it means u should be put to death

accidentally like spilling a drink is a mistake, or taking a wrong turn while driving

not fucking beating women up LOL WTF
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>>39439545
You should try taking less drugs, m'lady.

>>39439506
his younger brother.
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>>39439505
>>39439518
Lol being around a bunch of victums isn't living it

You can't possibly fully understand the thought proccess

And sociopaths generally have a very good understanding of human emotions/relationships/thought proccess

We just don't empathize with it

Using that knowledge is why they have a reputation for being so manipulative

You literally need that knowledge to be manipulative

So don't act like my aspd prevents me from kn9wing wtf I'm talking about just because you're a bleeding heart you dumb fuck

I'mnot denying shit like stockholm doesn't exist, but it's not all covering or all applicable and no relationship is that uncomplex to boil down to just that

Go messiah complex some more helpless womynz faggot
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>>39439545
Idk bb, if you go to an NA meeting anywhere you'll get a pretty good idea of exactly how weak willed some of these users are and how incapable of using responsibly they might be, and the opposite. I've seen too many different types of addiction from different people to think that weak will is the only common trait between them all; some people just inexplicably fall in love with a substance and can't stop coming back to it.

We're pretty similar I think, but in very different ways. I know my limits and stick to it because I have the will power to, you just don't get hooked on things because of boredom. Two completely different mental processes for why we don't get addicted to substances other people of all shapes, sizes, and backgrounds find irresistible.
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>>39439589
>>his younger brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>every time
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>>39439505

She may be crazy but she also is right

>>39439451

some people have problems anon does not mean we dont try to work on them or feel no remorse

>>39439459

>wahh wahh wahh I cry I so mad wahh I am crybaby

Why you think she has this imaginary syndrome based on my posts on somalian pirating technique exchange imageboard?

You should get a job as phychartist I am sure your degree in mcnugget preperation will be good enough

>>39439516

>I pity your significant other.

at least she does not have to have sex with 'man' whos lean weight is 67kg after full meal and galon of water

anyways on serious note

Why I should break up with her?

GIve me a SOLID reason that stands up to scuritinty

If I break up with her, I'm sad, she's sad, everyone is sad.

She maybe kill herself. To be with me and then to be without me is truly terrible.

And then I find another woman, and now there is MORE RISK that she is hurt by me because I'm not with a girl that

1. I feel such strong motivation not to hurt

2. Does so little to provoke me

You just want me to leave her because in your small mind it will make you feel better about what happaned in past,

You do not want me to leave her for any real reason or practicality
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>>39439589
>less drugs

I've been sober for weeks desu

Haven't done anything since I posted that near gram of heroin I got
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>>39439306
>a little fat
FL got a little fat.

Jerry on the other hand.

>>39439347
Still think it'd of been the most logical thing to do. Or maintain.

But lol at bulk.
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>>39439617
>>If I break up with her, I'm sad, she's sad, everyone is sad.

>o no the retarded animal, who is mentally a temper tantrum child that beat me up, left me
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>>39439617
I don't think you should leave her, I think you should kill yourself.

do it. I know it's hanging around in the back of your mind, pull the trigger. you know the world will be a better place without you.
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>>39439618
There is an misunderstanding m'lady.
mdma and coke is still considered to be drugs.

>>39439614
please dont hate on your lil bro, i believe he has a good heart deep inside him and a cute boyo
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>>39439640
speaking of fat

that's a pretty fat girl right there

also
>canr-e browses /b/
smH
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>>39439467
Lmao that's who I'm texting
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>>39439647

>I get this mad about post on fucking anime website

And you still cannot relate to my anger problems?

You are joke kid

>>39439646

Why you feel like you can talk shit to anybody on planet earth?

Get a job you layabout and fix your ugly face
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>>39439647
>I care about other people so you should kill yourself

Empaths, everyone
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>>39439669
>>Why you feel like you can talk shit to anybody on planet earth?
cuz everyone here is better than u in every way
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>>39439661
The mdma and coke was prior to the latest heroin m'nigga

I binge sobriety

Not even taking meds rn

Just started a new var cycle today that's it
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>>39439661
>>please dont hate on your lil bro, i believe he has a good heart deep inside him and a cute boyo
speaking of beating up women

he physically attacks my mom. lol. what a good hearted cute boyo

also i am speaking in literal 100% factual terms when i say he has had burger king for every single meal of his for the past week at least.
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>>39439677

You are better than no one you spineless slime get job

>>39439671

Yes, he feel like such a good person on his high high horse even though he write stuff like this?

you have ASPD disorder and I never see you write ever such nasty stuff to someone

How you feel anon, good?
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>>39439663
>canr-e browses /b/
>smH
I do?

That's probably where 4chan started for me, but that's like 10 years ago.
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>>39439684
m'lady, we both know this isnt going to last long.

>>39439617
I dont like saying this, but i admit i can understand you to some degree.
degree is the key word here, though
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>>39439711
For everyone.
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Im curious about the study stating that a man on test with fucked up sleep & diet will gain more in sheer muscle mass than a ultra dedicated man with perfect sleep & diet.
How is this even possible? You cant gain muscle on a deficit even if you are on test, so idk if ive misunderstood something here..
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>>39439617
At least when my partners have sex with me they don't have to lie about if they orgasm or not because they fear me, friendo. I'm sure your battered and bruised little maid just loves having sex with you.

Here's a reason.

Break up with her so she can find a man who will actually compliment who she is on the inside, and she'll have a chance to be truly happy just like you will.

Break up with her so you can demonstrate understanding of long term consequences instead of short term "oh my fee fees will be hurt and so will hers. I'll be lonely if I leave my scared little maid :("

Break up with her because you're incredibly immature, prone to violent outbursts no one deserves to be subject to, and can't admit who you are on the inside, and you don't deserve a relationship until you can figure out who the fuck you are.

There you go buddy, 3 good reasons when you only asked for 1. Want me to keep going?

>You just want me to leave her because in your small mind it will make you feel better about what happaned in past,

Take note faggots, THIS is real, legitimate projection.

I've never physically or emotionally abused a woman. I've set scenes and acted them out, but I came to terms with who I was before I even had a chance to do anything awful like what you have. Don't put you being a horrible, selfish, and closeted human being on me. That's all you, bucko.
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>>39439669
>>I get this mad about post on fucking anime website
it's not just posts on an anime website though. what you did took place in real life. what you do is unjustifiable and you know it. you are human scum, a morally empty human maggot.

remember. kill yourself. that's the only way to redeem yourself. do it.
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>>39439704
>>You are better than no one you spineless slime get job
>i should get a job for no reason when my family is rich as fuck, when i instead could be focusing on keeping my GPA at 4.0 so i don't have to flip burgers and suck dick for a living like you

ok

i get more money from doing nothing right now than i would get from a minimum wage job. literally no point
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>>39439695
hmm, do rich people always have these kinda issues?

>>39439711
>tfw never browsed anything else except /fit/

i am pure
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>>39439640
At maintenance now
Live and learn

>>39439426
Thays why I ignore all women

>>39439718
Trolled hard
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>>39439711
>I do?
reverse image searched the fat girl picture and it only shows up in /b/ threads, some guy who keeps reposting his sister's facebook pics
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>>39439736
Answer my text nerd
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>>39439704
Ja that guy is so far up his own ass he can't see the forest for the trees
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>>39439715
what

theres this one

never heard of what ur describing
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>>39439715
Is it the study with "lifting natty vs not-lifting roider"?

Because its absolute bullshit.
Otherwise i cant help you out.
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>>39439736
If I am I'd be so happy desu. It's hurts my head more imagining there's actual people like that out there.
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>be on 1g npp 1g tren 1g mast low test
>virginfag
>end up randomly meeting girl that messaged me on Instagram
>stock up on cialis and viagra
>my dick is completely limp while taking both
>end up throwing up due to too much viagra

Should I just kill myself?
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>>39439715
never seen the actual study you're referring to, but you recover faster on testosterone, increased protein synthesis, etc., so it makes sense that way for the sleep

as for the diet, it depends how you define your fucked up diet... with enough protein and enough calories you'll still build muscle even if the rest of your macros are fucked, you might not look your best though
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>>39439769
>1g npp 1g tren

cant imagine why

2g of 19nors, 1g of which is npp...

hur de dur what a good idea to have a rock hard dick
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>>39439758

i always forget to turn my trip on.

test makes me dumb
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>>39439718

Wait so you actually ask girl you have sex with 'D-did you have an ograsm????''

Anyways,

>Break up with her so she can find a man who will actually compliment who she is on the inside, and she'll have a chance to be truly happy just like you will.

Assumption. Why you assume I did not do this?

I am losing opinion of you as you make baseless assumptions.

>Break up with her so you can demonstrate understanding of long term consequences instead of short term "oh my fee fees will be hurt and so will hers. I'll be lonely if I leave my scared little maid :("

I not be lonely ever when you like like me and are as charming as me, but I like this woman.

Why I hurt both of us? Again, no legitmate reasons. This is stupid reasons.

'Long term consquences' so you want me to punish myself because I made mistake sounds like?

WHY WOULD I DO THIS!

>Break up with her because you're incredibly immature, prone to violent outbursts no one deserves to be subject to, and can't admit who you are on the inside, and you don't deserve a relationship until you can figure out who the fuck you are.

Once again, more bullshit

>you don't deserve

This is not a reason. I ask you WHY IS IT my best intrests to break up? ANd you say 'oh you don't deserve'

****LIFE IS NOT ABOUT DESERVE!!! LIFE IS ABOUT IF YOU GET OR YOU DON'T GET****

>Take note faggots, THIS is real, legitimate projection.

But everything you write confirm what I suspected.

You just want me to break up with her to punish myself?

What a joke.

I punish your fucking sister when I fuck her so hard she need hospital I don't punish myself

>>39439727

>wahh wahh wah I am crybaby x3rd post

Bonus round:

>I am a good person I judge others morally
>I tell you to kill yourself

You are still joke idiot

>>39439729

get job layabout
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>>39439784
>as charming as me
nothing charming like a mental retardbaby that takes out his tantrums physically on women
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>>39439758
No you faggot. It's not.
It's 150% cold facts.

Lazy stupid pussy ass dudes who can't be assed to buy a cheap weight set and workout or just do calisthenics/ghetto workouts and get fit will quickly QUICKLY jump on the juice and permanently DESTROY their natural test production and virility to look like a gay pornstar/manwhore for a couple of years.
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>>39439783
and i forgot it again

i should go to sleep. tomorrow is gonna suck so hard
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>>39439784
where did I ever say I was a good person?

I'm just better than you in every single way because I don't abuse women. when you fall asleep tonight, remember that you're literally a subhuman and the only way to redeem yourself is suicide.

do it.
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>>39439805
Her disgusting titts trigger me so hard
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>>39439800
>permanently DESTROY their natural test production
Uhoh, look at the time! Looks like it's kill yourself 'o clock!
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So there was a PDF or something floating around talking about how different doses of DNP affected your TDE... anyone got a link to it?

Bough like twice as much as I needed last time and now my gear stash looks like spongebob's asshole- want to avoid that next time i pick some up.
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>>39439827
Yeah, the shitloads of scientific and anecdotal evidence stating that this is the case is outright lying to you.

These threads aren't always filled to the brim with guys/steroid shills reassuring eachother that it's only temporary and how to take drugs to minimize or counteract this.

Nope. I am a dirty liar.
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>>39439800


1: The study only shows weight gain. So the roider made 80% of water and glycogen gains and everyone thinks "he put on 20lbs of muscle and he doesnt even lift, wow roids are magic".

2: The study was only done for a few months. The non-lifting roider had his muscle mass accumulated to his testosterone levels.
Once the muscle mass that "fits" your testosterone levels is built, it will stop. Because at that point, there is nothing to trigger further muscle growth.

3: While the roider stops making "gains" (if you can even call them like that) after 3 months, the natty will continue to grow because he is working out and the roider isnt.

4: I totally agree that lifting + roids > everything else though

Not sure if we are talking about the same thing, because

>Lazy stupid pussy ass dudes who can't be assed to buy a cheap weight set and workout or just do calisthenics/ghetto workouts and get fit will quickly QUICKLY jump on the juice......

not sure what you meant with that
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>>39439852
>shitloads of scientific [...] evidence
link 1 (ONE) study
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>>39439754
>>39439758
>>39439775
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8637535
Dont really think it was this one but w/e. Ive seen countless people mention it and its also talked about in the documentary on steroids from national geographic. What is even the point about this research when diet&sleep is not even mentioned. Results would mean fuckall with key factors missing
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>>39439784
>I'm a sociopath with a history of violent outbursts towards my SO who obviously isn't into it because I feel bad about it later, but I should still be with her because I make her happy.

Wait so you actually ask girl you have sex with "A-are you happy????"

Your broken English is annoying me. Maybe that's why you don't understand what I'm saying. Whatever, no point helping low lifes like you, you couldn't understand what I'm saying is for your happiness as much as hers even if someone converted it to a language you can type better than a brain dead vegetable.

>I punish your fucking sister when I fuck her so hard she need hospital I don't punish myself

Hahahahahaha and he thinks he's mature. What are you? 12?
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>>39439528
Skinny/fit girls are the best. ~120lbs max. But naturally skinny not like starve yourself retarded ones.

>>39439769
No dopamine antagonists? You've gotta be shooting milk out of your titties like a pregnant girl. Also, Viagra will make you hard no matter what if you're aroused so obviously it's a bigger problem than just your dick. Hop on that caber asap.
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>>39439859
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4708215/
>>
whats the go-to dosage for prami?

>inb4 get caber instead
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>>39439874

>your broken english annoy me

Your broken logic annoys me.

I speak four languages fluent, English almost fluent ,

And you speak????

>Wait so you actually ask girl you have sex with "A-are you happy????"

YOu never seen such a happy girl probally because all the girls you date have to date such an imbecile they must be misreable
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>>39439893
What's that? No mention of permanent shutdown?

Odd, it's like that's not a real thing.
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>>39439852
the chance to perm. shutdown your natural production is so unbelievably small dude.

To the few people who had this happen, they were retards doing no PCT at all.

You dont even know the amount of people that have reported in /fraud/ over the last months telling everyone they have been off from a 1-2 year BnC and are completely fine now.

But anyways, go ahead. Take steroids. I want your little normie bubble to be crushed when you end up dyel fat bloated piece of shit at the end.

>>39439822
why anon
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>>39439893
>Recovery of spermatogenesis after discontinuation exogenous testosterone is generally promising
>Mills and associates evaluated the recovery of spermatogenesis after exogenous testosterone administration in of 26 men with a recent history of anabolic steroid use (13). All discontinued exogenous testosterone usage and were treated with hCG 3,000 units IM every other day for a minimum of 3 months. Of the two men who remained azoospermic, one had insufficient follow-up and the other was suspected of continued anabolic steroid use
> The authors concluded that impairment of fertility following TRT suppression is reversible and that the rate of sperm may be related to the delivery system.
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>>39439863
look at Point 3 and 4 in my post >>39439857

Over the span of 1 year or more, a natty lifter will shit loads of more gains than a bloated non-lifting roider
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>>39439911
>the chance to perm. shutdown your natural production is so unbelievably small dude.
you mean non-existent

common mistake
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>>39439893
one way to make a fool out of yourself, anon
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>>39439900
>English almost fluent

If you can't even say the words "I speak English almost fluently." I wouldn't give yourself that much credit m80 kek. Tu Ingles es peor q mi Español, cabron.
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>>39439857
>Once the muscle mass that "fits" your testosterone levels is built, it will stop.

Does this also work in reverse? I've read about people on here keeping roid gains after cycling by maintaining diet and exercise. Doesn't fit in with the "amount of muscle you can keep is proportional to T levels." Unless you're strictly referring to muscle you can keep while not exercising.

Also, what is your age/height? for curiosity
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>>39439976
you will keep most of the muscle unless you're above natty limit. A lot of the "gains" people lose are actually all the water weight that the sterons put in the muscles.
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>>39439857
>>39439930
Yeah cleared up my suspicions.

>Lazy stupid pussy ass dudes who can't be assed to buy a cheap weight set and workout or just do calisthenics/ghetto workouts and get fit will quickly QUICKLY jump on the juice......
This was some other retard.
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>>39439976

It works in an indirect way.

100. Imagine the number 100% to be the maxium number of gains you can make as a natural.

If you roid, you will for example get to 130% of possible natural gains.

If you drop the roids, you will stay at 130% (or 125%, whatever). You wont magically lose all your gains suddenly just because your T levels dropped. You will drop a lot of weight though, which is mostly water and glycogen, which is why people always say " you lose all gains after you come off". Mistaking the water and glycogen lose, as gains.
Look at masT, he stayed the same size when he was off.


Anyways, you are at 130% gains right now.
If you do everything to stay at 130% (eating enough, lifting enough), sleeping enough) you will barely lose any solid muscle mass.

Thing is, if you drop down to lets say 90% (because you have cut down, or you have stopped lifting), you WILL need roids to get back to 130% again.

Hope that makes sense

I am 21 and 5'11".
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>>39440007
I disagree with that. I think you can keep above-natural gains.

They are harder to keep, but its defo possible.

Again, masT is the perfect example.
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>>39440051
Keeping quite a bit is definitely possible and I'm pretty sure even 1 cycle will make putting on muscle easier even after you come off, was mostly just talking about Ronnie Coleman looking guys.

Don't think masT is actually human so hes not a good example
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>>39440051
>I disagree
>I think
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>>39440073
Excuse you, masT sexually indentifies as a Versuchsträger tank. Of course he's not human.
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pinned HCG and feeling great again, take your HCG bros
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>go into "recipe" threads and i see stupid shit like "what's your favorite /fit/ breakfast. i like oats with protein powder, honey, milk, and syrup" or some shit like that
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>>39440073
>>39440051
>one man example
I think we're almost done here guys!
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>>39439893
retard
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Started Anadrol for the first time today. What am in for?
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>>39440133
wisest quys does the thing and ask after what are the consequences jk senpai u dumb as shit
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Alright you black niggers.

Whats the deal with prohormones?
Waste of time or nah?
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>>39440105
im sorry that you lose everything when you come off, honey.


>>39440073
well yeah thats a different caliber.

>even 1 cycle will make putting on muscle easier even after you come off

hmm dont quote me on this, but i think thats only the case when you BnC
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>>39440174
cant be this stupid
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>>39440146
>>39440181
when did you start flaming like you know what you're talking about

you're like the worst poster in these threads and you know literally nothing about anything, what makes you think you can tell people to kill themselves
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>go downstairs
>for the first time in many many days, they did not bring burgerking home
>>>>>>>>instead they brought chipotle
>lel

i wanna weigh him so bad. there is no way after eating all this shit for like 2 weeks straight that he is still 185-190. he has to be approaching 200 now
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>>39434576
Friend gave me this have no clue what it is. Can I get some insight?
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>>39440197
ah the dude who said frontloading dnp is good idea is here
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>>39440209
Nothing wrong with chipotle

Meat beans rice and veggies
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>>39440146
I've done my research.
I should of said what your guy's personal experiences were like.
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>>39440181
not everyone can be as smart and good looking as you.

i bow down to your superiority


>>39440209
try bitch slapping him instead to see of some of his fat drops off
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New one faggots. Let's not get to 500 posts on this one this time.

>>39440226
>>39440226
>>39440226
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>>39440225
don't forget the obligatory chips and whatever salad dressing it is that they are pouring all over it
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