anyone else really really shit at pullups?

Yes, but I started improving after doing deadlifts and barbell rows

Same boat as you OP. I'm getting better by using the gravity machine at my gym, better than blowing out my shoulders trying to do pull-ups when I'm not strong enough.

do some negatives, start from the top and just hold on for deEr life. gotta push yourself tho

>>39392711
yeah me but I'm maxium shoulderlet

That back look like mud ew

>>39392985
did scooby's programme but i didn't make any progress in 3 months even though i was getting better at doing negatives

doing banded pullups seems to be helping though, i can now almost do 1 (one) pullup

5'8" 72kg

No, I do 5x30 every day and 3x8 weighted 3 times a week(currently +90 lbs), pullups are my bitch. I also do legit straight bar pullups. Fuck chinups.

>>39392711
Yeah, I can only do like 3x3-5.

Only recently started doing them though, ~110-115kg.

I can easily pump out 10 chinups, but like 4 or 5 pullups with bad form. FeelsBadMan.

6'2 ~186 skinnyfat dyel
14 good form medium grip pullups max, usually do 12-13/9-10/7/7/5-6
with 2:30 rest
i wish i could do weighted :s

Been using Justa type programming for them, but with no maxing out. They always fucked up my elbows & upper back if I went to failure, and nothing else seemed to work.

Started at 1 rep (quite easy, if I wasn't doing this at the end of a workout), using a neutral grip since it felt the best. Add 1 set of a single rep each day that week. Really short rests, as little as 20s. Add 5lbs each week until I complete 4 weeks, then switch to doubles. & so on. After working up to sets of 5, I swapped over to regular pullups, and then to wide grip some months later.

I can probably do 100+ for about 5-6 reps now, but it feels better overall to just slap a plate on and crank out 30-50 total reps with lower rep sets

>>39393015
How wide is your grip? I can do 3-4 with medium width grip on a good day, same height/weight. I do a lot of banded pull-ups and negatives though.

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>>39392711
for me pic related helped me get my first 2 pull ups without doing any negatives

>>39393056

how wide is your lat spread?

>>39394618
also, that pulldown machine is fantastic for extra volume on back day. That bitch made me wide

Question, do you guys actually really feel your back muscles when you train them? I never do.

No one can be "shit" at pullups, they're one of the most basic exercises around

Youre either weak, or fat. Your thread should be "anyone really weak or fat"

>>39394625
Haven't measured but I'm wide AF, technically my lat spread is more than double the width of my torso

>>39394672

For a month, add in a isolation exercise for something you don't "feel" Don't make it about the weight, just the sensataion of just that muscle/group.

After about a month, start keeping that sensation in your head when you hit something that includes that muscle/group; use the isolation before/between sets just to remember it.

Like tension, once learned it's a lot less effort

Does anyone not like chin-ups? I can do the same amount of chin-ups and pull-ups but i only ever train pull ups on a straight bar, is that good?

>>39392711
I was for the longest time, still not great but has been nice to graduate beyond assisted/negatives

>>39394765
delicious assburgers

If I do wide grip will that train me better to do normal grip? Or am I better off doing normal grip to get good at normal grip?

>>39394823

easier to fuck up your elbows if you do them bad.

Also, ultimate pullups at work are commando pullups. grab top of door frame, pullup to one side, then other. do this whenever you walk through a door

>>39394856
I think might elbows are good in that case
ive been doing them since i was like 12 and im 22 now and can do like 40+ with deadhang rest

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>>39392711
I-is that a rib-cage on his back?

>>39394865

I'd just fucking go to sleep during a set like that. depending on what it is, past 15-30 I just asay fuck it

i can do 20kg (44ish pounds) @ 82.5kg (182lb ish pounds) for 3 x 5.

goal by end of year is 3x25kg without decrease in bw. probably doable.

>>39394910
Yeah I dont do more than 20 usually, I do them weighted anyways. Chin ups just feel awkward on a straight bar.

How many push-ups should I be able to perform if I was asked about the numbers of reps?

>>39395004
?

>>39393146

If you can do 12-13, then you can definitely do weighted. I bet you could throw a 25 lb plate on and do 7-8 easy.

>>39392711
I can do 8 with good form and tempo,
But i'm really struggling to improve,
and failing to do consecutive sets of more than five.

I was trying to improve reps by doing 5rx10s
But still didn't improve past 8 good form reps after a training cycle (1 month)

Feels batman.

any tips on improving overall reps?

>>39395004
50+ with good form, range of motion and posture is ideal.
But expecting to do more than that with decent size isn't necessary, just focus on doing more reps of higher level pushup exercises (decline pushups, one arm pushups, full scapula depression pushups/ +pushups)

I can only do 30 at the moment, but i've been neglecting pushups a lot over the last few years, and just getting back to them.

5'10" 82kg / 181lbs
i'm also >>39395664

>>39395693
I worked my way from 20 struggled pushups to 60 in 40 seconds. I didn't work pushups, instead I just increased my bench.

>tfw finally can do 10 pullups
i'm finally making some progress, feels so good

Dude, I'm just really shit at life.

>>39392744
By gravity do you mean an assisted pullup machine? I've been doing that but making sure I clench my back, so I've had to go up in assistance to make sure I do that. I'm at 170 with 70 lbs assist, I also do dips on that machine with 50 lbs assist.

>>39394914
Are you me?

>>39392711
do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRznU6pzez0

>>39392711
Me.
I've given up and now I do pulldowns.
This is what happens when you are 6'1, have big lower body and the upper body of a child.
doesnt help that I'm in a permabulk.
I've tried doing negatives, can barely do one, tried chinups, they hurt my bicep tendon.
I wanted to start doing some everyday at the bars in a park close to my home, but some fat nigger dislodged the structure poles, and of course my doors are too hold to install a bar at home
>SHIT genetics
>SHIT luck and circumstances
Oh what a surprise, seems like a recurring theme

I used to be meh til I kept practicing. Best results came from doing negative holds at first. Then got a weight vest and have been slowly making progress that way.

Unweighted is now more explosive.

>tfw can easily do 10 chinups, but doubt I can even do one pull up
fuck

I've always been weirdly good at pull ups. Shit at squats cause I'm tall with long legs but pull ups of all forms have always been easy for me

Doing chins with a hammer grip helped my pullups improve a bit.

I've always been naturally good at pull-ups, I could do 7-8 untrained at 160lbs body weight

Now I do 3x8 +55 lbs

>>39392711
Hands like hooks, relaxed forearms, pull from your back.
Went from doing 1 to 5 per set using this.

Can no longer do weiggted pull ups because of lower back/hip injury.

Anyone know if dumbbell rows are just as good?

>>39400922
Not even close.

Man, pullups are the most mysterious thing to me.

I constantly see posts from people that are otherwise in reasonable shape (some even look strong) saying they can't even do one pullup.

Meanwhile I was fat in high school, and lost all the weight (and more) while bedridden for a year and a half (obviously not lifting) and at no point in my life have I not been able to do at least 10 consecutive pullups.

Meanwhile, my bench has been in ultra poverty mode for the last 5 months and absolutely refuses to increase. I didn't even start doing rows until about a month ago, and they've already passed my bench by like 30 lbs, and I still don't feel like I'm putting full effort into them (never failed a rows set yet)

Why is my strength so unbalanced in favor of my back?

>>39400948
Fuck.

Doing endless pull ups win't be beneficial either will it. I'm not at all heavy.

>>39401100
i mean with that injury sounds like you cant deadlift or squat either so its not like youre ever gonna make any gains

>>39401081
You're good at pulling exercises, shit at pushing exercises. What's so mysterious about this? I would be you also have long limbs.

>>39394856
I sometimes get a pain in my right elbow from chins... What is the correct form?

>>39401120

>You're good at pulling exercises, shit at pushing exercises. What's so mysterious about this?

Idk, I guess it's just mysterious that there's no reason for me to be good at one or shit at the other? I never did any hard work or anything that would have built those skills; before highschool, my only exercise was basically overnight backpacking

>I would bet you also have long limbs

I don't think I do? Nobody has ever commented on it, and I'm 5'10

Maybe after I plateau on these puling exercises my pushes will even out?

>>39393015
>5'8" 72kg
You weigh too much

>>39400027
you sound like a massive faggot
i'm 6'1 as well and pullups are my bitch, but only through months of grinding. fell for the SS meme and went full trex mode and realised i couldn't do a single pullup. stop blaming your circumstances and use resistance bands

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tfw 62kg and can't even do one pull-up

anyone else?

>>39402717
I'm 5'11"

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>>39402748
>be 5'10", 62kg
>do 3x5 pull-ups
Just b urself bro

Be patient

>>39402717
62kg 1.72cm and can do a few. Do chin-ups every workout if you can do them and also do exercises that hit your back like rows and deadlifts.

Don't fall for the negative pull-up meme. You can either work towards a pull-up, or work towards strength which will also result in being able to pull-up.

I got one of those iron gyms and I try to pump out 1 or two every time I walk through the door.
Im at around 30reps/day which is probably pathetic.

>tfw cant even do pushups
still losing weight but fuck i hate not being able to do that

>>39402762
Ye I can do chin-ups and I do deadlift and row. SOON

>>39402776
do incline push-ups.

most people do push-ups with shit form and underestimate the difficulty.

>>39392711
>Average male pullup: 1

>>39402814
thanks

>>39394791
Got a pic so we can see what 5x30 does to your lats?

>>39402762
The negative pullups fucking work bro. I tried lat pulldowns all day everday but still couldnt do a pullup

After negative pullups one day I said "Fuck it let me just try a pullup" and accidentally slammed the bar into my chest because I didnt think I could do it.

>>39392711
>At my peak
>Can do 3x10 pullups
>Can do 4 pullups with 1pl8 tied to my waist
>6 months of no gym later
>Struggle with 5 regular pullups
God damn lats degenerate fast

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What's better to progress and build muscles
>add weight to pullups
>add reps/sets

>>39402861
Adding weight will increase muscle strength, which will also increase muscle size.
Adding sets/reps will increase muscular endurance and allow you to do more for longer which will lead to strength down the road. Look at construction workers or masons. Their work is endurance based more than strength, what with moving bags of concrete all day every day. They don't look too big, but their muscles are solid rock and they pack a punch.

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Think you got it bad? Meet my pull up bar

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>>39402936
bruh

>>39402936
>man found dead, concussed by a blunt metal object, in his basement after neighbours complained of a stench wafting from a nearby house for several weeks

>>39402936
>inclined pull up

>>39392711
They hurt my shoulder what do?

>>39403291
Don't be such a fucking cunt

>>39394672
For pullups, when you begin the movement, contract your shoulderblades to get the movement started, then focus on driving your elbows to the ground instead of pulling yourself up, lean back a little, and lead with your chest to the bar instead of just trying to get your head above it. Remember to keep your core tight. You will know when you do it right.

For chinups, it's similar, but remember to drive your elbows out as well to hit more lats.

>>39392711
My current maximum is probably around 22

>>39402936
Please tell us you are kidding. You can wait awhile till you get plenty of replies, but then at some point please tell us you are not serious.

>>39402936
Kek.

>>39403412

Why would I be kidding? Do you think your special because you do pull ups on a rack that costs 1000 dollars? Its a poll that sits between too supports. Its high up enough that I can hang on it with my feet off the ground and get the full extension. I'm deadly serious. Do you want to see my squat rack?

>>39402717
I started at about the same weight at 181cm/5'11" and I couldn't do one.

Now I'm doing 5x5 with an extra 8kg/17lbs around my waist at 78kg/171lbs bw(probably 12-15%bf). Don't give up senpai.

Btw I never did negatives or shit like that, just variations of rows until I could do about 6 proper pullups and I've been slowly adding weight/reps since.

>>39402983
>the neighbours say that the last thing they recall hearing from his house was a cry of "LIGHTWEIGHT BABY"

>>39392711
Me. I always find myself making my elbows go inward rather than outward like in op's pic

>>39392711
Negative. And Isometric hold.

Real question.

Out of curiosity, I tried it just now.
And I am now able to do 1 shit pull-up. Wide neutral grip.
From doing negatives/inverted rows for 2 weeks.

Hurray.
What now?

>>39404568
5 sets of 1 and progress from there.

>>39404568
>>39404609
this but keep doing your rows. you're not going to be able to get enough volume from pullups alone.

>>39392711

I love them, pull ups and chins are the only exercise I do. Going to make a proper gym next year though.

>>39392711

I do lat pulldowns cause I can only do one or two pullups lmao. I'm too fucking fat 90 kgs 20%bf

Maybe in a couple more months of cutting I'm able to do a decent number.

I'm 5'10 and I got up to 10kg pull ups weighted for 5 reps but I just plateaued at this point. Can't seem to add any more weight or reps. Is it because I'm getting heavier? My other lifts have gone up. Rows have gone up. Deadlifts have but I feel my form is maybe shit (not retracting properly) and I'm getting fatter could that be why?

>>39394672
When you do it slow and right, yeah the entire back aches.

>>39404885
Shit forgot to add I weight 75kg atm.

Lifting for 4 months and I can't do a deadhang yet. i started with assisted pullups but at 40-60lbs assist it's almost impossible because my feet slip off the assist mechanism because it's such little weight.

Been pushing hard on lat pulldown, cable row, and t-bar row to no avail. I never feel like I'm activating my lats.

Yesterday I finally gave doing negatives a shot and holy shit the difference is real. This is the first time I can remember being actually sore in my lats/serratus. I don't know why i didn't try them sooner.

>>39402936
Bruh nice yellow jump rope and yellow resistance band on the left there. What brand?

>>39392711
Does anyone else find the problem that they can do pullups with weight, but very few at bodyweight?
Right now I am doing 3x8 40lbs, but I can only do 20 BW.

>>39400199
I Generally do bodyweight would you recommend weighted vest obviously I wouldn't go for a run in it

>>39392744
ah yes, the 0 gravity machine is great.

>>39394618

Same. Most Pulldown machines use a 5 lb increment stack. Mine takes weight plates, so I train by increasing the weight 2.5 lbs.

In four months, I've gone from 100 lbs to 165 lbs just casually lifting 3 sets of 5.

>>39392711
Still can't do 4x10 at 90kg, after a year and a half of going to the gym. I can do 10, 8, 6, 6.

Can do 3x8 with 10kg added
goal is 20kg need dat pl8

>>39407929
how much do you weigh?

>>39392711
I am almost 70kg now.
I can only 4 sets of 6.

its a bit harder as I don't do it often and I have put on 8 kilos this year.

>>39402527
not the bro you responded to.
I am 5'7" and am 70kg.
I have used to be 62kg but have durtty bulked.
do I cut bro?

>>39407944
90kg

>>39404817
How tall are you bro?

>>39408006
Nice, you're pretty strong then.

>>39402931

broscience

>>39402936
respect

>>39402936
local man found dead in apparent suicide, neighbors hear him screaming about peanuts shortly before the incident

6'0" 180 lbs here. Been lifting for 3 years. At my peak i could do 12 pullups. Stopped doing them for a while and now my max is 8. Fucking sucks, they hurt my wrists (former skelly, perma-wristlet).

>>39405617

Too close to call.

>>39402936
>orange kettlebell

lmao

>>39409403

Have you tried the grease the groove thing?

>>39409403
No excuse, I'm 195lbs 6'1 with 6" inch wrists and I never get wrist pain from doing pull ups, you must be kipping or someshut.

>>39409642
Never heard of it, but will look into that, thanks.

>>39409799
I wasn't making excuses and my form is very strict.

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>>39405617
>3x8 55lbs
>15 bodyweight

I'm convinced that most people haven't done pull ups in years and extrapolate their numbers based on what other people have reported

There was a thread on /pol/ during the election where people were comparing their chin-up numbers and I would say the average was about 15, with a low of 5 to a high of 30

I've been lifting my whole life with special considerations for fighter pull-ups and I can get 12 max. 20 is like prime navy SEAL level, 30 is world-class, like alex honnold or some shit

>>39412031
But anon, don't forget that they are training for the upcoming racewar. Surely they are way fitter than the standard navy seal.

On a more serious note, I absolutely think that 30 is achievable for anyone as long as he isn't fat

http://www.50pullups.com/

>>39412031
30 is not near world class, pull ups get to be trivial once you can deadhang rest

For instance, I considered anyone who couldn't do at least 25 trash when I used to rock climb (judging other male rock climbers my age)

And I agree with that people exaggerate and most suck dick, that's simply because they don't fucking do them

>>39412332
>once you can deadhang rest
why do people say this. then don't deadhang rest when you test records. allow no rest and require them to be continuous.

>>39412031
Probably just shit form and jumping up to do them.

>>39392711
yeah, hopefully I'll be able to do more after I finish cutting

5'9 at 85.7 kg and can do 3

>>39412438
that's retarded on at least two levels. one, if you're rock climbing dead hang rest is all you can do to not fuckin fall and die. secondly, dead hang resting is still exerting force on the auxillary muscles recruited

Anyone got tips for not swinging when you do pull-ups? I'm guessing my core is just weak

>>39394791
>Haven't measured
>technically my lat spread is more than double the width of my torso

dafuq? what does technically mean to you?

>>39413963
Engage your core and keep your legs out in front of you.

when i first started i literally could not do even one pullup

just do 4 sets to failure every day you work out for a few weeks and slowly knock them down to 3 sets and then create a rep scheme when you're good enough

if you can't even do ONE pullup, get as high as you possibly can, and then just hold it for as long as you can - when that maintained height falters drop down more and hold it longer

i did that for about 3 weeks and afterwards i was able to knock out several pullups at a time really easily

>>39392711
I love pull ups. But I'm a manlet so I guess that's cheating.