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/fraud/ for steroids generally

>bimbo quits his ex round ??? edition

old >>39377023
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>>39383201
d-do you want to talk bimbo?

>unrelated
>walked down to coffee house just now
>saw old roommate there with her dyke girlfriend/boyfriend/whatever the fuck
>knew she frequented it but haven't seen her there before
>for those who may not recall, ultra lib, lesbian/tranny hybrid thing that has both "male and female" pronouns
>she fucking hates me of course, as I do to her
>she knew I was a vehement Trump supporter from day 1
>say "oh, hey" and order some toast and an americano
>start dunking my toast in the coffeeit's some weird habit of mine
>hear ex roomie whisper something to dykebfthing
>"haha see, fucking weird isn't he?"
>glare at her and wind up for a doozy
>get as loud as I can about making a scene
>"you know, just because Trump's president now doesn't mean you can fucking marginalize me like that. I have my preferences too, you know? I don't fucking judge you. It's RIDICULOUS that in 2016 we're still capable of judging people for their choices. Just because Trump got elected doesn't mean you need to spread your fucking hatred around, okay?"
>literally one fucking guy starts clapping until he realizes nobody else is
>everyone staring at them
>she starts rapidly apologizing and her bftrannything does too
>they leave immediately and start walking up the street
>drive by them on my way out, after we're out of sight/earshot of the coffeehouse
>scream "UGLY FUCKING DYKES" and continue driving off

God living in this liberal shithole really has its perks sometimes

I just hope the last thing they saw as I drove off was the MAGA bumper sticker.
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>>39383319
Totally happened
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>>39383275
>>39383319
I'm cool
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>>39383344
>>39383311
finally realize (you) were posting in the wrong thread you retarded newfag? :^)

DNP is on its way to (you) breh

I really enjoy that I've gathered such a following from (you), (you) should save all of my pictures in a folder like I do with masT, so that (you) have something to jerk off to before (you) cry yourself to sleep every night remembering you'll never achieve even half of (you)r potential, which is essentially nonexistent to begin with
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>>39383364

Post bondage pics.
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1st for Azusas birthday
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Guys was running t3 at 100mcg for some extreme weight loss along with 200mg DNP for 15 days.

Dropped the DNP one month ago and kept the t3 in.

I'm on my 2nd run of DNP again at 200mg but I'm running out of T3. I have one 100mcg tab left.

Can I drop it cold turkey?

How long till my thyroid kicks back in?
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>>39383380
Attacking anons lmao

Im a different poster
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>>39383423
I can't answer questions about the T3 because I haven't used it and don't know enough about it other than

>muh thyroid

but DNP thyroid recovery is only 2-3 days after cessation of use

>>39383406
dubs for azusa
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>>39383319
>one fucking guy starts clapping until he realizes nobody else is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MiAIfq0HZs
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>>39383464
kek, guy kinda looked like him too, just add a flannel and cuffed jeans
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>>39383462
Cheers mate.

Was convinced others who said t3 was pretty save had no issues rebounding thyroid back.

Ah well at least running DNP will keep my in fat loss mode while I'm off t3 cold turkey.

I'm on day 2, 50mg tabs (taking 4) feels weaker than the first time when I had capsules of 200mg.

Not sure if dosing is incorrect, I'm desensitized due to second run or too early to up dose.

I'm going to go at least 7 days at 200 before adding in another 50mg and upping every week after, until sides become insurmountable.
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>>39383201
that's a myth btw

well I guess how you define "alpha"

but it's not actually about being the fastest/first
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>>39383491
>it depends on how you define "alpha"
fixed

typing is gay
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>>39383482
Isn't the action of T3 to increase, well, T3 to supraphysiological levels?

DNP blunts T3 production, which sounds bad but is actually better as it further prevents muscle catabolism while on DNP. Seems counterintuitive to run them both, especially when DNP alone should yield results.

I could be entirely wrong, I'm not familiar with T3's method of action and affect on the body.
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>>39383526
>I could be entirely wrong, I'm not familiar with T3's method of action and affect on the body.

Yeh bro t3 seems to attack both fat and muscle, speeds up metabolism.

So if you want to hit single digits fast from 12% I wanted the added benefit as DNP would reduce t3 anyway.

So basically with t3 I would loose fat a lot faster than DNP alone however at the expense of some muscle tissue.

To reduce catabolism I'm already running 125mg test and 700 tren Ace per week.
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>>39383546
Gotcha, makes sense. I suppose I'm looking into it more from a natty's POV as they wouldn't have the test/tren to account for muscle wasting
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>>39383577
>natty's POV as they wouldn't have the test/tren to account for muscle wasting

Not sure if sure if you use DNP you're natty though haha.

Yeh if you're not willing to go the enhanced route so far I've been happy with DNP results.

I'm sure natty's will find it a good tool in their arsenal.

I would stay away from t3 then in case you waste away all your natty gains.

Even clen wouldn't be as well at a low dose say 40mcg-8mcg for 2 weeks along with dnp. It would definitely help with any lethargy.
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>>39383615
Natty is such an arbitrary thing if you extend it beyond "uses AAS"
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>>39383624
>Natty is such an arbitrary thing if you extend it beyond "uses AAS"

Yeh you're completely right.
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>>39383615
im not natty, I'm just saying that's the side I was addressing the issue from, forgetting to factor in AAS usage
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>>39382524
I'm not going to pretend i watched the video i just h8 indjins was here first and saw the opportunity to rant


Figured the post I replied to was a joke t b h senpai
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Does Cookies and Cream Whey taste like Hersheys Cookies and Cream chocolate?
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>>39383201
>Hey guys if you're feeling low remember that you were the alpha sperm
Ya! I AM THE ALPHA!
>>39383998
It tastes like ALPHA!
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>>39384048
It tastes like your own sperm?
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>>39384068
Have you ever had cookies and cream whey? That shit definitely has a taste...
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>>39384048
>>39384068
>>39384083
These people use steroids
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>>39384089
Sometimes I use the refer too
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how did you guys get over the fear of needles?
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>>39384171
By remembering that I am the ALPHA!
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>>39384171
how did u get over being born without balls
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>>39383615
>Not sure if sure if you use DNP you're natty though haha.

Imho if you use any kind of AAS or hgh or an analogue of the two you're not natty and you never will be. Idk what to think of DNP but I personally wouldn't use it.

Tbh even though it's legal and regulated creatine is sketch to me honestly, ok I'm aware of how retarded that sounds but the hairloss and side effects from it just sound fucking retarded from the minor boost you get from it as a PWO. Black coffee is all the PWO I need in the morning. Faurk.

Visiting Tempe for the next few days, feels really fucking good to be back here doods. I missed this college town.

>>39380699
>jerry's samefag anon posting and bitches at others for doing the same.

What a world we live in.
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>>39384247
fuck u think i take steroids for idiot
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Also smoked weed last night with my little brother for the first time in almost 5 years last night and watched black mirror.

Faurk. I'm glad I got that out of my system desu, it felt good but not as good as I remember it being. Was a nice reality check, and I don't think it'll be an issue craving it a lot in the future.
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>>39384249
>Imho if you use any kind of AAS or hgh or an analogue of the two you're not natty and you never will be. Idk what to think of DNP but I personally wouldn't use it.

wat the fuck does that have to do with what he just said
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>>39384278
I was agreeing with him and giving my opinion on the matter, you cockroach. Pay attention.
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>>39384249
You need more redhead pics senpai.
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>>39384308
I KNOW DOOD. Faurk. I need to make a picture file in my phone exclusively for that. I've already saved most of yours and have a lot of my own short hair curly gingers.
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>>39384321
hop to it
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>>39384171
After the 50th pin the stick doesn't even phase me anymore, I do tend to go much slower than most people once I pierce the skin just in case. I tinge a nerve or something and have to pull it back out.
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>>39384308
red hears blue eyes is pretty dank bb, but red hair green eyes will always be a chart topper for me hnggggggh
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>>39384372
i am a beast

Ss a low test (in the 200s) faggot, I didn't even think twice about pinning. I read all about how not to fuck it up for hours, and when my gear came, I had no hesitation. I read all I needed to know, I had adrenaline obviously but I went through the injection process basically as fast as I do now.

Also they are full of shit when people say it takes "weeks" to kick in, I felt it easily within 1-2 days (test e)

I have a study on japanese old ass men where it shows test E levels peak 1 day after injection too, IDK where this broscience bullshit comes from
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>>39384394
Grey/blue eyes great too, dark green eyes equally good tho.
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>>39384399
They peak but you've not had the chance to benefit from them yet.

I've never been able to feel anything from AAS I've tried other than annoying pumps and strength gains. And dbol murdering my blood pressure.
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>>39384399
>same guy
Yeah same, the first time I was nervous, but I just looked up a guide and bought 27g needles. It didn't hurt at all because I had enough adrenaline going that I didn't feel anything. Plus slin pins hardly feel like anything anyways.
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>>39383380
Fuck the haters bro.

TRUMP IS OUR PRESIDENT

M A G A
A
G
A

This high cannot be rivaled by any drug.
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why are balkan people so high test? love em
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>>39384427
well within 1-2 days, as i said, i instantly started finding women "attractive" as fuck whereas before I was indifferent/0 sex drive. I also was getting raging boners over nothing constantly, I had energy, etc..

Being low test it is easy for me to tell, maybe not for normal people
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i know i will get bashed for these questions but whatever please try to help a brother out

got my first two injections this week (250mg,tuesday and yesterday) and have a bit trouble sleeping since then. shouldnt the test kick in after 3-4 weeks?

can i expect beard growth from test e? i have decent beard on chin,stache and from mouth to chin but nothing on the sides even though i can feel those hairs. planning to go for 20 weeks

thanks bros
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>>39384733
i have always been able to grow a full and long ass beard but as low test it was kind of thin (the number of hairs)

test didn't really do shit for me (or at least noticeably), tren made it wayyy fucking thicker though
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>>39384733
>tuesday and thursday

you fucked up already, its monday and thursday

test will only make the hair grow that were going to grow anyways, it just speeds up the process.

Look at masT, roiding monster, no beard, no stache, no body hair, not even on legs
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>>39383998
It tastes like chalk

Complete ass

I've tried so many brands of it too do not be deceived

Stay master race basic chocolate
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>"family" comes home
>notice they didn't bring any burger king
>i assume they just would eat the leftover from the other 2 bags of it in the fridge
>for no reason at all my "mother" tells me "oh we bought burgerking and went to your grandmothers house to eat it"
>meanwhile the other day my grandfather had a stroke and she was blaming my uncle feeding him bad food high in saturated fats

comedy gold
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>>39384818
>chocolate

no wonders you're a woman

vanilla master race reporting in
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>>39384844
>chocolate coconut master race
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>>39383364
Bimby what's it like getting it in the pooper

Like i wanna try but in a non gay way.
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>>39384841
i noticed that all the fucked up drug addicted retards with family and social issues are always from murica.

is it a rare for you people to have a healthy non-degenerate mind and healthy family relations where halph of them arent drug addicted retards.
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>>39385009
>>39384841

i mean, even though you are making fun of your family, you are a retard yourself obviously.

your post was comedy gold too
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>>39385006
have you gf get a strapon, it's what I did.
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>>39385030
I dont have a gf
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>>39385060
oh...
rent a hooker and bring a strapon.
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>>39385060
Get a tranny hooker loser
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whats up /fraud/

can you guys pls review my cycle? im 5'10 and weigh 95kg. currently at about 18% bf. slowly dropping. i have dropped calories to 2770 and nutrition is on point. like really on point. my goal is to recomp over the course of 16 weeks. will consider cruising thereafter. so heres the cycle:

weeks 1-16:
test prop @ 50mg eod
mast p @ 75mg eod
t3 @ 25mcg ed
cialis @ 10mg ed
arimidex @ 0.5g eod
primo e @ 100mg eod

weeks 1-7:
tren ace @ 75mg eod

weeks 10-16:
tren ace @ 75mg eod

5 day training split. doing a modified version of doggcrapp with hiit cardio 3 days a week.

what you guys think?
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Kre alkalyne or creatine?

I've heard Krealk has the same effects but the water retentions aren't as bad as with creatine.
I don't get why anyone would still use creatine then.
Am I missing out on something?
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>>39385082
don't you ever reply to me again fucking nerd
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>>39385154
Why t3 at a trt dose?
Why propionate esters?
Why drop tren and then pick it back up again?
>>39385234
Creatine monohydrate.
>>39385299
HOW DARE YOU TALK TO YOUR GOD THAT WAY!
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>>39385346
ive never used t3 before. its what my coach recommended. he has a phd in sports biomedicine, but i will ask. the prop esters is to get full effect straight from the start. the 2 week break from tren is just to give my body a break. cialis is for blood pressure.

also he showed me a study where there is evidence that t3 can actually help build muscle and is best used with t4. but yea, not sure why its only 25mcg. will ask and hopefully get a good explanation
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Who /gf2017/ here
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>>39385493
I don't know wtf that means speak english.
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>>39385154
lol

wtf is this shit

also
>nutrition is on point. like really on point
>18% bf
>using all that shit
die
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>>39385505
I'm aiming to get a gf next year
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>>39385508
maybe's hes a powerlifter :^)
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>>39385532
oh good aiming then bud.
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>>39385548
Thanks
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>>39385416
Ya 25mcg is just a trt dose as far as I understand it. No one here uses t3 unfortunately.
>>39385493
I'm gonna marry jerry.
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>>39385154
First off your nutrition is not on point if you're 210 lbs 5"10'...

Is this b8?

Second why would you use mast at obese body weight?

... this is b8, right? Roiding with a test tren masT stack at high bf%, no one does that, right?

Also, 18% kek, more like 28%.

Diet first, get to a reasonable weight, and exercise. Then roid if you really want to once you have a good base. I might not know shitall about roids but even I know that your current cycle with your stats is retarded, I don't want to sound like a dick but you need a reality check desu.
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>>39385624
LOL
Known steroid abuser placing stock in fucking BMI?

You are motherfucking retarded. The fuck out of here.
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>>39385006
Like what these dudes said, lady fingers or dildo feel great.
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>>39385493
Sure, I'll sign up for that.
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>>39385634
The dudes cutting, didn't post pic, and he's asking for roid help on a Tibetan Yak exchange board, so the assumption is pretty clear that he isn't extra muscular or ripped and he's new, hence bmi would be fine for determining where he's at.


>Known steroid abuser

Don't be stupid.
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>>39385648
BMI is fucking trash and everyone who's spent even a month reading up on fitness knows it.

Everyone knows it, and you pushing it shows that you're fucking retarded.

The height to waist ratio thing is truer predictor of fucking health then BMI.
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>>39385657
Well then why don't you ask him what his waist measurements are so you can tell him his untrained pre roid 5"10' body at 210 pounds isn't the epitome of healthy, anon? Or you could just do the easiest thing available to you at this second and not let your weapons grade autism loose at anyone trying to give advice.

Just my 2c though.
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>>39385657
Calm your blubber fatass, for average people bmi works fine. If he is 210 lbs 5'10 he doesnt have a body type that's honna make a difference.

He is obese plain and simple. Just another run of the mill fat fuck looking for a secret way to not be obese but keep eating his goyim pig food.

Fucking obese and eating 2.7k calories LOL. Wow what an effort
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>>39385689
The first time in ages I've actually agreed with you.

Turns out there's even more retarded people on this earth than you, swollen.
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>>39385676

>ask him

You're aware you're arguing with the SAME MOTHERFUCKER that posted his proposed cycle right?

That's the only person retarded enough to think that the guy is 18% 5'10" 210 lb and a beginner
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>>39385676
>>39385689
BMI is not fine.

BETTER calculators can tell him that he's fat as fat ass.
A simple fucking picture of him posted here and everyone would be able to tell that he's fat as fat ass.

BMI is total trash and I fucking DARE YOU to find a single solitary person in fucking modern fitness and weightloss who is not on the take who will tell you otherwise.

I'll wait.
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>>39385698
Oh, so you're just mad I called you fat for being obese at 210 and 5"10'.

I'm done arguing with you.

Post body and prove me wrong once and for all, faggot.
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>>39384723
Yeah Im normal test (700-800ng/dl) and my sex drive kicked up hardcore the first few days.

Calmed back down again eventually though, basically back to normal but the gains are neat.
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>>39385711

NatT are you high tn or something?

I'm agreeing with you that the guy is delusional, all I said was that the dude you are arguing with is the same guy that posted the stats/stack.

It's the same fucking dude.

>post your body

YOU ASKED FOR IT DUDE

YOU GON GET IT NOW

ENJOY YOUR LOSS OF APPETITE AN NO GAINS
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>>39385738
why the fuck are you on a steroid foruM??? WTF THAT IS FUCKING DISGUSTING
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>>39385748

>why the fuck are you on a steroid foruM???

Because I like the trips here (except for you).

>WTF THAT IS FUCKING DISGUSTING

I know I'm working on it though no need to get all worked up
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>>39385738
>puts the toilet paper roll backwards
Never gonna make it breh
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>>39385738
I read >>39385698 wrong and thought you were talking about yourself there. My b dude. That guy should still post his body if he thinks that 210 5"10' isn't fat tho, I never said bmi was a good system but even that shit is right sometimes.
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>>39385738
I'm not sure what to be more disappointed by, your body or wasting my time watching arrival just now.
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>>39385738
REMINDER THAT WHEN U POST, THIS IS THE TYPE OF ANIMAL GIVING YOU ADVICE
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>>39385768
>I never said bmi was a good system but even that shit is right sometimes.

I think the system works very well for untrained/beginner as they don't have enough lean muscle mass to throw it off.

But yeah it's stupid in the context of athletes/people that lift/people that work physical manual labor jobs and may have lean muscle mass.

But for ref, I am a beginner, I am overweight, BMI chart says I am overweight.

So it is accurate for the untrained.

>>39385766

Tbh man sometimes if I'm feeling lazy I don't even put it on I just stand it on top of the holder.

No bully
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>>39385780

>implying I give people advice on lifting

Big leap there dude .
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>>39385787
>But yeah it's stupid in the context of athletes/people that lift/people that work physical manual labor jobs and may have lean muscle mass.

You know that a good chunk of the men and women on the earth work physical jobs or live very physical lives correct?
Even in western societies.
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>>39385796
can you stop trying to excuse your fucking obesity by rambling about shit that has nothing to do with you

"dude you're obese"

"BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE FITNESS MODELS"
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>>39385787
So is this gonna be your first cycle?
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>>39385815
I'm the guy saying BMI is trash. Not the obese guy you gear headed retards are blathering on about.

And you don't have to be a "fitness" model to make the BMI not work.
It's never worked and is not even a rough estimate of overall health.
It's actual usefulness has been contested and it's been proven to be trash.

Did you know that there is a second bmi measurement that takes body frames into account? It was to try and make it less trash and keep it as a useful tool.
Didn't know that did you?

It's still considered useless by most everyone.
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New girl can only squat 185 for reps but she makes like $40-50 an hour. Also no heroin problem.

Old gf could rep 255+ But only made like $10-15 an hour. Plus major heroin problem.

Both are willing to indulge all my fetishes although old gf was more enthusiastic.

Am I making the right decision?
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>>39385828

no no

I'm cutting for the next 3-4 months to hit 12-15% bodyfat.

Still unsure of my exact TDEE but I've gone from 193 to 181 in 6 weeks so I think I've got it right.

Once I hit like 160 lbs/12% body fat I want to do a +250 bulk for 6 months and then cut @ -250 for 6 months and repeat like that for a few years before I even consider gear.

Sound reasonable?

I just post here because the trips/anons all seem really cool and it's good motivation to see your guy's bodies on a regular basis

Plus all you guys can see what I'm working with and I want to show you guys in a year, 2 years, the progress

IMO it's stupid for a dyel fat shit to jump on gear when I can make so much progress without it
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>>39385590
>no one here uses t3 unfortunately

Please.

T3 will actually increase protein turnover, so it can be used while bulking to push through another limiting factor.

>>39385838

BMI is flawed, yes; but it can be effectively used to seperate different groups within a control group to measure overall changes. That's one useful measure, however that won't influence results alone as we know it doesn't take into account the makeup of the tissue.
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>>39385861
yes
fuck junkies
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>>39385861
>Am I making the right decision?
Yes.
>>39385866
Sounds solid.
>>39385880
Ya but you show up like once a month...
Also this is the first I'm hearing of you using t3.
When do you usually use it and why?
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>>39385880
Only useful in very controlled conditions is not even as useful as a good guess.
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>>39385925
except one thing is certain. when some fucking retard natty fat fuck comes to a steroid forum claiming to be 210 lbs 5'10 u know he is obese
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>>39385914

The conversation here isn't as stimulating as it used to be.

Cutting. Usually just 25-50mcg whilst on a deficit to keep things ticking over.
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is the 36 hour half life of DNP for crystal or powder? what is the half life of the other one then? I hear crystal is way shorter than powder but IDK if the 36 hours is powder or crystal.
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>tfw so much volume your dick doesn't wanna get hard even though you pinned yesterday and e2 is on point
Im trying really hard guys. Please let me get big.
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>>39385984
No accessory drugs? I thought you were a big fan of dnp?
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>>39386010
what are you on
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>>39386009
Pretty sure, could be wrong but pretty sure, once ingested the crystal is the same as the powder biologically.
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>>39386016
300mg test e e3d

Definitely not bunk I just pushed it really hard today
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>>39386018
Yeah but the crystal form is apparently much faster to be absorbed

If you look it up everyone takes that as fact universally, just I have never seen concrete numbers
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>>39386029
What's the chemical name for the crystal? And dnp powder is just freebase dnp right?
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>>39386038
sodium 2,4-dinitrophenolate

i have no idea about powder, since it's made for industrial manufacturing in china. who knows what the fuck is actually in it
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Hey guys is there a good 'read the sticky' for steroids?
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>>39386059
/r/steroids/wiki
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>>39386062
Awesome thanks man
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>>39386012

I've used it, I wouldn't say I'm a great fan of it though. I'd rather the clen/t3 route. DNP murders athletic capability, clen/t3 improves it.
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>>39386053
Im guessing the powder is freebase because of the potency by mass being higher.

Anyway if it's just a salt that sodium will fall right off in an aqueous solution aka in vivo. Basically identical. That's how most drugs in the salt form work anyway. Who knows if dnp is different (I doubt it is, why would it be, but fair disclaimer)
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>>39384723
Did it help with concentration, attention, depression or confidence?
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>>39386102
all of those things, it made me feel like I was "drugged" in my low-test years, like groggy as shit with no real aim or focus, and am normal now.
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>>39386062
Can we trust the related board?

>>39386012
Also, nice pic. source?

Also, is there a base level of fitness you need before first cycle? I'm about 20% bodyfat, down from 30%, and lifts are stalled as I focus on losing weight.
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>>39386116
Goddam it's my life.

Hoping to get on TRT but looking for a backup plan.

This is me btw: >>39386129

Thanks for the info.
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>>39386116
>Tfw test hasn't helped with this at all
Brain fog is such a bitch
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>>39386129
Honestly, if you think at all youre going to want to do more than one cycle, plan to BnC. Have pct on hand in case for some reason it doesn't work out, but plan to just go into a cruise. The hormonal roller coaster is shit, and there's no reason for it if you're going to go back on in 3 months anyway

That said, the best thing you can do for yourself now is cut HARD. Get as low as possible, lower than youve ever been before.
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>>39386070
Noted thanks.
Clen kinda freaks me out with the heart palpitation thing.
>>39386129
Pic came from here somewhere.
Cut first then roids or else you will just be big but still fat.
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>>39386158
So sounds like cut to about 8% bodyfat, then start cycle.

No info on BnC on the wiki though. r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/examples
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>>39386173
Thanks, I'll cut first. How low would you recommend?

Thanks for the pic, but that question was more about the related reddit board and whether it's trustworthy/honeypot etc.
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>>39386203
The reddit steroid wiki? It's alright. Good starting point for further research. It's pretty solid for noobs I guess.
Ideally you cut sub 10% then juice.
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>fine all day
>eat food and take 750mg dnp at once
>30-60 mins later
>incredible urge to binge even though my stomach physically doesn't even feel empty

help
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Most AAS users I know in real life - as well as most people online - seem to prefer LISS to HIIT for cardio purposes. Is there a non-broscience reason for this? I love my fucking hill sprints.
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>>39386256
well for one tren makes it (at least for me) basically impossible to do high intensity cardio at all, because it fucking constricts your lungs so much that LISS is much less painful

and 2, I've heard a lot of broscience about high intensity cardio increasing heart hypertrophy. IDK how true it is but rather be safe than sorry
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>>39386254
babby's first cut?
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Been on accutane for a grand total of 14 months at 40mg a day, stopped a month ago. Have never had any bacne at all, it was all on my face. I don't think I'm even capable of getting acne anymore, I just get tiny red bumps.

I'm two weeks (4 pins down) into my first test cycle, and my back is covered in tiny red bumps, presumably acne trying real hard to be acne. Questions are, why is this happening? If anything, my e2's been crashed lately, and should I hop back on accutane? Have enough for about two months at 20mg/day
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>>39385866
not a bad plan and all that jazz considering what your taking.

but dont go above 220lbs at your hieght, unless you intend to be a mass monster. just my fatass recomendation.

you dont look that bad though so your gonna make it. with or without roids.

cooking
http://imgur.com/gallery/7QcBS
http://imgur.com/a/5nbmA
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>>39386203
http://pastebin.com/bkXs0khR

heres a list of links for you newfag

some of it might help some of it wont. and yes its missing more important info, work in progress
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>>39386578
OK let me ask a different question.

How to not go to jail?
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>>39386660
lol ask someone else, im on legal analogs, not as good as steroids but i still get something out of it.

do your own research for that becuase you'll see 100 different ways to do the same thing.

do not buy international or raws, thats one thing i know for keeping your shit safe.
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>>39386677
Sweet dubs but how come no raws?

How else am I supposed to homebrew?
What is the raws are domestic?

I know a guy domestically that can get me some gear but I think the only raws I can get are <5grams internationally but I hear good things about the source?

Any ideas brahs?
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>>39386685
Kys
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>>39386677
Thanks.
this isn't me: >>39386696
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>>39386722
kek hard to tell all new fags look new on this board when asking basic shit.

your pretty much on your own for online orders since you cannot source talk here.
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What is a dry scalp indicative of? Low e2?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ain288biQ
whats even the point of using steroids?
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>>39386722
what just because im not you i dont deserve an answer?
fuck you bumface shithead dickmouth fuck you right there in the face you fucking douchebag
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Do you guys experience roid rage often?
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>>39386256
I can't shitpost while doing hiit. >>39386685
Vocaroo nao!
>>39386924
How often do you wash your hair?
>>39386925
What's the point of life?
>>39386961
I am zen.
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>>39386981
>What's the point of life?
to be happy
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>>39386987
To reproduce.
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Come join me in my boredom fellow degenerates.
>>39387035
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reminder to report low effort shitposting
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>>39386696
regular gear going through customs will get seized and that's it. raws can make it seem like intent to distribute, and that's federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison time

people still do it, and there are sources with amazing stealth techniques, but it's inherently riskier.
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>>39387059
t-thanks y-you too

b-but dat dere celltech homebrew amirite?
dat dere 10% production cost?
worth it?

also is there any way to prove if buying raws under 5grams or whatever that you are solely doing so for personal use (to avoid dat dere pounding me in the ass prison time))?

also is it gay if you are raped in prison?
i mean you dont want it to happen but just say it happens would that be considered gay? because if you fight against it its not really gay is it so like if you wanted to experiment you could do some time and just trim your nails and look after your skin and figure and maybe find out what its like and when it happens just fight back a bit and you can find out if you like it without being a faggot right?
i dunno just asking
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>>39387087
I regret helping you

back to misc, faggot
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>>39387043
r8 my meme
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>>39387092
>implying there are only fat women in America
>implying Russians make better guns than the west
>implying Russia gives two fucks about anyone's sanctions because they sit on some of the world's richest natural resource deposits and don't need to trade
Hope that wasn't too harsh
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>>39386545

>but dont go above 220lbs at your hieght,

5'11"

I thought it was 6'0 all these years and I measured myself last week and lol.

>mass monster

Eh, I'm not lifting for girls. IMO that's silly, as a fat dyel, I do good with girls because women have such low standards in terms of physique, being clever and having a job is good enough.

So why expend all that effort for something so easy??

I know women don't like "mass monsters" but hey, I have a bad body now and I get girls, so I don't see why I won't be able to as a "mass monster".

My goal body is pic related.

I wanna spend the next 5 ish years seeing how big I can get natty and then I'll have to decide on using gear to my closer to the body I want for myself

Another part of the reason I hang around here is you guys have such high standards for physique (half of you unironically think NatT is "small") that it pushes me as opposed to normies and women with their low standard
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>>39387177
Are you gonna vocaroo this shit or not?
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>>39387189
don't entertain retards
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>>39387189
m8 you want these slings you gotta learn to sing life aint free so pay the fee what you got now champ im on the off ramp of life theres a price now pay up or shut up you can of tripe aw shit you just want my secrets to non stop gainz im not telling im holding the reins so deal with it froggy froo its time to go im playing it slow because i know the go catch you later cheetah face
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>>39387196
>don't entertain retards
Did you forget where you are? Lmao
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>>39387210
>cheetah face
=(
Why you gotta go there breh...
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>>39387194

There isn't a single trip guy here with a "bad" physique except for Jerry, and Jerry is injured and has to do curls only, and I guess Jerry just doesn't want to cut and won't run DNP

Cat Piss is on the smaller side as far as frauds go but I wouldn't go so far to say he has a bad physique
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>>39386925
Because I look a lot like him and am 6'4" so I can get swole and have that triangle of FHF complete
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>>39387219
dont hate the playa hate the game dont be ashamed cheetahs are boss they like hasselhoff they maim and kill and live for the thrill they total beasts eating feasts like unreleased unappeased monsters of the deep sea they dont give a fuck they full of luck and hit fools with the force of a mack truck so keep that chin up my man of the mist you still a togh motherfucker capitalist

peace out a town
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>>39387163
>half of you unironically think NatT is "small"
He's 5'8" and under 150lbs....
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>>39387336
you just anon dont disrespect me you lucky i let you have a kek with me you tiny ass nigga just a full blown wigga you dont understand that trips can hit each other with bantz but you sub human scum you just an anon so shut you bitch mouth now before make you bow out you absolute lout im the biggest and the best and more cut than the rest im giant and huge with hundred fifty muse im drowning in pussy but i breathe pure swole im the only one who reach the ultimate goal so take look at yourself if you dont mind while i go ahead and leave humanity behind CMONNNNNNNN MOFUCKERS OHHHHHH SHIT B TO THE F TO THE T TO THE O WHAT WHAT
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>>39387219
https://youtu.be/gULC6APVAG8
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Summoning food lifts
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>>39387466
post face
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Can someone post that roids vs natty (aka cuck) /fraud/ photo that used to be posted?
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>>39387535
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>>39387532
Tbqh I dont want you. But im not lying when I say we're extremely similar looking, to the point he could be my brother or something.
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>>39387567
>he could be my brother or something
these guys are brothers so I get what you are saying
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>>39387548
This is such a great image
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>>39387571
To be fair, the guy on the left is fat as fuck, wearing glasses and has a basic bitch haircut
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>>39387571
I don't get this, like how can one be so perfect and the other one a complete fuck up? It is not like there are just a few things like one has a better jaw and stuff but it is absolutely EVERYTHING, height, hairline, jaw, eyebrows, nose, lips
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>>39387578
even if he was lean and had better hair and no glasses he still would look significantly inferior
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>>39387584
>>39387578
Actually they both look relatively shitty.
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>>39387584
Be yourself, but less fat.
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>>39387588
You really can't tell until the person loses the weight, it hides most of their face structure
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>>39387606
doesn't change height, eyebrows, nose, lips, hairline
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where's this general's info for rookie pathetic human beings
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Where do I find information on stacks for strongmen and powerlifters instead of bodybuilders? What do WSM competitors like Brian Shaw, Hafthor, and Eddie Hall take?
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>>39387487
what
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What is really attainable natty?

Keep getting "natty" transformations popping up in my youtube feed.

See this people saying it looks natty, i dont know anymore is it possible i am just genetic dead end and these people are really natty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzqDnc_7cVs

Been lifting 4 years natty and just strong never gonna be able to get big and ripped like that.
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>>39387693
With non freak genetics pic related is basically the natty max. Highly educated, over a decade of work.

That video you can see where he goes on, there's a pretty drastic change in his physique around the 1minute mark.
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>>39383275
Anyone else really autistic but shredded? Currently 6'2" 210lbs 10% BF, but I haven't had a conversation with anyone in months since I get too anxious. I just spend my days getting mired, but it's getting old. I was 300lbs until I graduated High School and was raised by a single mother. Going to commit seppuku soon.
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>>39387735
He looks pretty good, but for an average person that would even be difficult to obtain due to lack of knowledge time etc.

Its depressing as hell, whats the point being natty then some guy can just hop on gear and be twice your size in a year of training.
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>>39387693
Everything is based on genetics. I was bigger after 4 years natty than people who blast and cruise for years. My little brother is on his first test cycle and i am just baffled how huge he;s getting. He also was already bigger than most people over here while being natty. With a shit diet and routine.

You gotta stop compare your dyel genetics with other people. If you don't have it, don't hit it.

>buttt he's not natty because i can't achieve the same results as him.
No, you're fucking jelly. That's fucking with your mind and that emotion is stopping you from thinking rationally

Maybe you're more intelligent, maybe you have a bigger dick. maybe you have still full hair at your 70's. maybe you have a better facial genetics.

And yes in my case you would have it all.
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>>39387797
> is it possible i am just genetic dead end and these people are really natty.

Lol but thanks masT, gonna just commit sodoku.
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>>39387765
Instead be glad we live in an age where you can take a shot every few days and become bigger and stronger than 99.999% of humanity has ever been.
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>>39387807
Self-pity is even worse. Get your shit together, yes a lot of people have it better than you. That's life faggot.

Work with what you have. Stop comparing yourself with other faggots. AND STOP WATCHING THOSE FUCKING CRINGE MUHH ZYZZ MUH AESTHETICS VIDEOS

You're some big fucking fedora faggots, jesus
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>>39387924
>Stop comparing yourself with other faggots
I can't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ain288biQ
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>>39387924
How are things masT what are you currently up to as far as development?
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>>39387937
It hurts to know that I am also called human like you. The fucking weakness getting me fucking aggressive.

I cant imagine what it would be like, to watch such videos with your beta fedora ass. BUTT LOOK HE GOT IT BETTER THAT ME. MY LIFE HAS NO PURPOSE

FUCKING LOSER
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masT in this thread he is bringing the truth he a truthsayer and he aint uncouth he laying down law and working his core he a straight up nigga bringing the pain he growing a mane like a lion untamed aw shit all this butthurt jellies starting t taste like supermong smellies holy shit
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>>39387970
>Notice me senpai

>>39387968
You still cutting? Planning on a blast anytime soon?
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>>39387924
I was joking senpai.

I am sorting my training and nutrition out and reading up a lot more so that i can get the best out of my body.
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>>39387968
Currently on 250 mg test + 100-150 mast-e. I am also on eca stack with dmaa. 4 times a week from now on.

These are my most recent pics

What about yourself m8
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>>39388029
how tall are you bruv no lies?
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>>39388027
Cool, that's more like it. If you really do so, you will not end up like a dyel faggot.

I trust in you.

>>39388036
6'0. Did i ever lie to you?
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>>39388029
Ahh still shredding

>Me
Pathetic dyel still on my basic bitch test e 300mg e3d

Getting bigger slowly. I'll make it though I believe in myself. Gonna show the world Im a freakbeast
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>>39388055
Thanks masT x
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>>39388059
>>39388029
Btw youre fucking huge and beautiful ily thanks for bringing this board up and calling out the whiny bullshit. We need more like you
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>>39388029
>>39388076
P. S. Can we get more pics of your back? Backs are my favorite
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>>39388059
Since i am on this eca stack, i am seeing more results every week. I am just addicted to the fat loss progress every time. I wanna bulk, but i don't wanna get fat again. Makes me really paranoid

Never stop believing in yourself. That's the way to make it. Never stop hoping and dreaming

>>39388076
Everyone got it shitty sometimes, but other people feeling sorry for your ass is only making your weaker. I hate it when people do that. Really makes me aggressive.

>>39388090
This is the most recent. Need to make more soon
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masT do you like mast what do you like about it? what side effects have you seen from it? what results are most obvious from it? hit me up its just hard to believe you are on trt test doses and 150mg of mast
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>>39388119
I like the looks especially. The fullness at lower body fat even while being on almost zero carb. Only thing i hate is the shedding. On 500 mg the shedding was really worse, but i am lucky i don't have the balding genetics. But it still worried me. I know it grows back, but losing a lot of hair that you almost choke yourself during shower time is really making you paranoid. Oh and at 500mg i was really paranoid about my gf cheating me on me all the time. It fucked with my mental illness.

Pumpkin and saw palmetto are highly recommended for your prostate and thinning / hair loss. Really helps me with both. You should always use those supplements when using masteron.

Why don't you believe me.
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>>39388179
what was your mental illness? when did it occur? b4 steroids or after? how was it exacerbated exactly? (ive had a first time episode of psychosis so this is very important for me to know) was it just paranoia and whatnot? can you be specific?

also if your mothers dad isnt bald into his 50-60s i wouldnt worry about shedding, how bad is it really? can you notice it? do you prefer blast levels mast or cruise? are you cycling/cruising/or blasting atm? thanks man this is very informative
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>>39388256
Correct me if I'm wrong mast but I think

>Mental illness
Nothing in the same vein as psychosis just a lot more jealous than normal. Maybe other effects, dht derivatives are very intense when it comes to effects on personality. He's just being a bit tongue in cheeck calling it mental illness

>Shedding
Hes said many times his hairline hasn't moved at all

He's cruising and cutting at the moment. I think he's said he likes high test for blasts and bulks, and high mast for cuts
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>>39388029
>Currently on 250 mg test + 100-150 mast-e

Brother you didn't build your physique on such conservative dosages.

There must be periods of extremely high use of anabolics and periods of lower use to allow the body and mind to 'rest'.

I feel like the 250mg 150 mast e is your cruise.

Please keep enlightening us /f/itizens. Gear is definitely not the easier route, its just a completely different road.

Your physique is amazing. Could you share tips on bloodwork and other aspects of keeping healthy while blasting and cruising.

gh15 pupil.
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>>39388256
I have no mental illness, at least not that i know off. I might be prone for being parnoid. Masteron at higher doses get me really paranoid. Brother of my mother got schizophrenia

No, everyone at my mothers side has full head hair. Even my father in his 70's has still all his hair and not even grey

At worst i noticed some sightly thinning, but luckily it grew thick again. I have really thick full hair.

this is the latest hair pics i got.

I was always cycling; all the mass i got is from cycling. I just recently starting cruising because i can stand the acne everytime i go off. Just one big cut since april on low test and mast. No bulk blasting yet.

>>39388422
I was always cycling; all the mass i got is from cycling. I just recently starting cruising because i can stand the acne every time i go off. Just one big cut since april on low test and mast. No bulk blasting yet.

This is my first time i blast and cruise, was always cycling before. I am taking fish oil, coq10, vitamins, saw pawletto and pumpkin seed oil ed since i am on this dose. No blood work yet.

We will see how big i now get with BNC, instead of cycling. Will keep you updated
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>>39383275
I get that this is /fit/ but why is there a gif of gay porn used in the thumbnail of every /fraud/ thread?
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>>39388519
Gear history:

cycle 1: mast(300mg) + test-e(500-750mg) for 14 weeks

Year off

cycle 2: test p(100eod kickstart) + test-e(750-800mg) for 16 weeks.

then i got off for 4 months.

Now i am on low test + mast since april this year, only cutting since then
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>>39388537
that's literally bimbo, so, yeah

>>39388115
mirin that back masT, looking good, cuts coming along great I'd say

>unrelated

about to pin a safety pin to my MAGA hat and wear it around my very liberal 37% muslim campus

kek wills it
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Is it best to get to 10% bf or lower before starting a cycle?

I was planning to go on a test cycle once i finished my cut, i am also not sure how legit my gear is so what would be a good way to find out?

If i eat at maintenance and take test will i start to gain weight from water retention that i would not have experienced without gear.
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>>39388615
>is it best to get to 10% bf or lower before starting a cycle

it's optimal, yeah

>best way to test for legit gear

send jano a sample, or labmax. Labmax is shit 90% of the time, but the easiest way to find out is to just run it. If it's a basic compound like test or dbol, you'll likely have no issues

>water retention eating at maintenance
depends on the dosage of gear you're running, but it's possible, yes.
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>>39385638
Bimbo how does it feel to know that there are currently people fapping to porn of you?
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>>39388519
>Will keep you updated

Thanks brother, its the collective accounts from people actual walking the walk that helps this niche hobby.

>taking fish oil, coq10, vitamins, saw pawletto and pumpkin seed oil

Exactly the same as mine however I will add in saw & macadamia oil.

Have you noticed your pulse staying elevated?

I'm on 125 testE + 700mg trenA per week. Have been on moderate dosages for the majority of this year, and have perfect blood pressure but pulse is on the high side.

I'm ending my cut mid december (take trenA out leave testE in). Bloodwork will follow soon after.

I'm thinking my blood might be thicker? I tried donating but my pulse was too high (110-115) at rest. I've added in daily aspirin until my cut ends mid december.

I'm seriously contemplating draw my own blood. Have researched a sound method to self draw blood.

I'm going to be on for life whether its blasting or cruising, or being on TRT until the end of my days. So I need to be self sufficient in drawing my blood to avoid potential complications.
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>>39388542
Holy fucking shit. You really got that big from only two cycles??

What the fuck man. Take your insulin and gh already and become better than anyone ever has been before
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>>39388633
My fear is it is under dossed or degraded its a pretty old batch(2year ago).

What are some key signs to indicate it is working, i was thinking might just run it high at 750mg EW just because i am skeptical.

I have ran test before a few years back and the signs were not all that obvious, i was a but i kinda fucked up my cycle and ended up lowering my dose after 8 weeks because i thought i was getting really bloated.
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>>39388519
>>39388675

For example right now at rest,

BP 110/73
Pulse 122.

I also met a cardiologist about this issue (disclosed gear usage), had ultrasound done, stress test as well. Everything was perfectly normal - said I have a healthy strong heart. and to keep coming in for heart ultrasound once a year.
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>>39388695
iirc degredation of hormone begins after ~1yr according to jano's testing, with degredation of raws beginning as early as a few months in.

Also largely dependent on if the vial was used previously or if it's still unopened.

The only way to know for sure is to get bloodwork, otherwise it's all just speculation
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>>39388519
have you noticed any major differences between cycling and cruising between blasts?

did you used to PCT? do you love not having to? do you worry about your bloods more? do you have any other concerns about it? thanks man
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>>39388711
All unopened vials, i guess i will just have to take the chance and take blood tests after a few months of taking it.

Hopefully the degradation is slower in oil compared to raws.
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>>39388736
it's much slower in oils compared to raws, that much I know for sure
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>>39388746
Thats good enough for me.

Just need to start planning my PCT and all that shit now, i was interested in trying another compound with it i am looking to gain size this cycle. I have spent to much time focusing on strength programmes that i have become a trex.
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>>39388595
Thanks m8. Trigger them

>>39388675
I just measured my bp; 112/70 left arm and 130/60 right arm. Was never so low.

Was a period where it was 144-150/70 on higher doses of mast and eca stack.

my pulse is always 75-80 at rest. I dunno really you could do some research on that. How is your cardio?

>>39388723
I can conclude that yet, since i didn't blast yet. I always kept my gains after cycling.

pct was always 4 weeks of nolva.

Never did any bloods. I will probably soon, since i will be on for longer of periods now.
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>>39388784
>I dunno really you could do some research on that. How is your cardio?

I thought the cardiologist could give me a definitive answer.

My cardio is non existent. I have a physically demanding/active job. I'm standing for 6 hours straight minimum.

He speculated it could be the gear (tren ---> increase anxiety).

I'm bumping up the tren to 200mg ED as it will run out my supply by mid december. Then I can take a break - hopefully pulse drops back down.

Keep in close to trt dosage of test 125-->250mg (as im running ugl so dosage could be inaccurate) then start cardio.

Really don't want to touch cardio at the moment due to tren and my 200mg DNP run.
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>>39388784
What were your doses of novla? and any sides during PCT?
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>>39388808
That's no cardio. Just add some real cardio to see if it will make a difference. There are some supplements you can take maybe. Coq10 really helped me with my irregular heart beats.

>>39388809
40/40/20/20

&

40/40/20/20/10

ACNE, like really bad that i don't go off anymore. Depression, and feeling weak etc, but i could get through that.

Only reason i stay on is because of the acne, i already did 2 cycles of accutane but that is worse than PCT feelings. Never wanna use accutane again. I am really happy i am off that and the acne is gone
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Pill steroids are a meme right?
Anyone here tried D-Bal?
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>>39388880
>D-Bal?
wtf is
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>>39388851
>That's no cardio. Just add some real cardio to see if it will make a difference.

Yeh thanks brother, you're absolutely right.

My calories are extremely low currently & with DNP in my system tasks outside of training are more arduous.

I'll start some LISS cardio every other day and go from there.

Once mid december and I'm off the DNP tren I'll focus more on cardio work.

Even the cardiologist said that I should should focus on cardio as well to balance my health with strength training.

Thanks again mastT, may the gains come swiftly! ;-)
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>>39388880
Bal???
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>>39388898
>>39388908
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metandienone
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>>39388914

>D-bal

D-BOL is good but never heard of D-bal.
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>>39388914
doubt this is Metandienone my dearest friend
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>>39387090
This is why I pointed out that I am not this guy
kek
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If I did my first cycle at 500mg of test e, then dropped it down and cruised at 250mg, would I expect to lose any strength or size?
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>>39389011
how long would u b in 500? and how long u would cruise? and I doubt it if u train/eat well
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>>39388542
why not use tren to cut?
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>>39389011
lol i did the same.

All i lost was water mass from the heavy bloat, and my veins went down a bit.

Now going natty dose is another story, and even then. You keep most of your mass
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>>39388519
>all the mass i got is from cycling
But isn't cycling cardio though?
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>>39389076
With cycling he means roid cycle

Anyone tried running test tren mast?
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>>39389076
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>>39388519
I heard BNC is terrible for natural test production and sperm production.

Anything you're doing to keep this stuff safe?
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>>39389112
>I heard BnC is terrible for natural test production and sperm production

that's why you never come off fampai
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>>39389112
Things come back online once you stop administration of the exogenous hormone.

Think of it this way, you can leave a computer turned off for a long time, doesn't mean that being turned off is inherently damaging or that you wont be able to turn it back on.
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>>39389104
>>39389108
I was hoping someone would say "he's talking about gear"

then I would have postet a screenshot of Google image search "cycling gear" and ask him which of the gear he is using
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>>39385638
so a dick would feel great too
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>>39389127
This is partially accurate.

Considering your computer analogy; that computer that has been shut off for a very long time might have a much longer boot time than one that was just turned off the night before; it could probably use many more updates and tweaks as well.

Of course you can still recover from it, but you'll likely need much more aggressive PCT, over a longer period of time.
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super low Test guy back again, on week 6(?) or 500mg ew, babys first blast. eating about 3700 cals per day, all is well. at the end of my cycle I need to drop back to my 100mg ew trt dose, how long will it take for my test levels to go from what 500 makes them down to about 350 ng/dl? like how many weeks does it take for test to normalise?
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>>39389302
Different for everyone and your calories sound pretty high how active are you and how much fat you gained?

I bulked way to hard on test and gained a lot of fat.
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>>39389302
>I need to drop back to my 100mg ew trt dose
Why would you run so low dose?
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any dutchfags whose packages has been seized?
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>>39389224
You will never recover from it like you do from cycling.
Especially if you b&c'd for a long period of time.
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>>39390075
[citation needed]
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is 500iu e3d a good dose for on cycle nutsack
health? i've never used hcg on cycle and i'm trying it on my tren a and test p cycle now to
see if it makes a notable difference in recovery.
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>>39388519
hey dude how much saw palmetto adn pumpkin seed oil do you take?
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>>39389867
dutchfags have a really huge veteran source in their own country.
No need to buy oversea.
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>>39390287
not him, personally take 3000mg pumpkin seed oil and 1000mg saw palmetto.
High pumpkin seed oil because Pumpkin seed Oil is basically confirmed to work for hairloss due to a Korean Study that was done on it.

Saw palmetto on the other hand has no clear evidence, which is why i take less of it.
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>>39390233
It's fine. I do 1000iu e3d and font notice much if any difference.

>>39390287
Gotta get nizoral if you're shedding.
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>>39390434
actually i barely shed. i might have too much hair on my head.... i just have some issues with my prostate sometimes and i heard saw palmetto is bretty good for that
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>>39389449
thats what my doc has me at. the next set of bloods (probably 3.5 weeks post blast) will ideally set me up for a higher trt dose.
>>39389327
I lift relatively hard 6-7 days per week, lots of squats and deads. Ive gained some fat, but not much outside of what I think is initial bloat from the test C
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>>39390613
hopely
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any /k/ommando's here in fraud?

I assume cap is.

looking for a decent folding/highly compact survival rifle for long camping trips

going to southwest montana for ~1mo to camp, take photos, and hike the trails next year
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>>39390699
No such thing as a decent folding/collapsable survival rifle. The AR-7 gets tossed around a lot, but its literal shit. Look into a Marlin Model 70P, or a Chiappa Little Badger. Or just get a Ruger 10-22 like a normal person. Or a Marlin 1895 SBL for a little (a lot) more punch.
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>>39383275
+1 for using my gif
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>>39390699
Why not just save on weight and pack a quick access pistol and some bear spray?
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>>39390740
Will look into them, have shot an AR-7 before actually, you're completely right. Thanks

>>39390801
Not entirely out of the question, any suggestions?

>unrelated

got out of work for three hours, DNP passes great as being sick kek
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300mg deca + 600mg test for 16 weeks okay?
Cruising afterwards
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>>39390829
Handgun that'll put a bear on its ass? The only one that immediately comes to mind for me is pic related.

.45 caliber, smooth shooting, nice and heavy weight in your hands. Thing's a literal hand cannon and moderately priced, too. You can get the snub nose for quicker draw but it'll have a wee bit more recoil obviously.

You wanna put a raging bear on its ass or blow a hole the size of a softball through a home intruder? Taurus Judge is your handgun.

Not even a shill, it's just one of my all time favorite handguns to shoot.
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>>39391239
You can also get a .410 gauged version of the judge, too, for if you need a fucking shotgun blast from a hand gun.

Yeah, I might be moderately biased because they're awesome fucking handguns.
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>muricans want to hike and travel in nature
>MG 240 SAW OR RPG 7?
>"its just for s-safety reasons!

>murican spots a bear cub in the wild
>hmm if i yell "ITS COMING STRAIGHT TOWARDS ME" i have every reason to shoot it.

>take selfie afterwards

can you people not travel like normal humans
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>>39391313
>can you people not travel like normal humans
They use automatic gears.

Doesn't that answer your question.
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>>39391239
Confirmed for not knowing jack shit about terminal ballistics or kinetic energy.

> b-but it looks really badass

Shut up, child.
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>down 20lbs in 17 days (maybe 18 idk) from dnp

>looks like its all from muscle

Ree
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>>39390829
>white supremacist
>is a lazy shill
fuckin untermensch
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>>39391387
B-but... muh loaded revolver reliability, muh stability, muh ammunition versatility, muh no magazine master race... and it looks really badass. And it's like $400, how can you not love that shit?
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>>39383319
Do people really think including a clapping person makes your fake story anymore believable?
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>>39391313
does your country have wild bear and mountain lions, hell, even wild boar, to worry about?

>spots a bear cub in the wild and attempts to shoot it

wanna know how I know you've never seen a very pissed off mother bear before?

fuck with the cubs and you may as well brain yourself with whatever weapon you have before she gores you to death

>>39391338
I like to be able to get road head tyvm, can't exactly tell her "ayo *smacks lips* hol up, i gotsa shift"

>>39391404
glycogen depletion m8, it's not all from muscle. They'll rebound once your'e off

>>39391416
>is a lazy shill

how in the fuck did you find a way to fit shilling into that post in any sort of context

unless you're calling me out for saying the AR-7 is shit

>>39391458
I've shot one before, I thought it was decent, it's just not a weapon I'd want to take on a trip like that.

I'll probably end up going with a 12g/.22 over under. Covers all of my bases, it'll be a decent bit heavier but, eh.

>>39391517
Do I really have to post a fucking picture of this disgusting abomination to prove a point?

Some people get out from time to time, and not just to find bulls for their wives, Sven
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>>39391575
do you study in the us? if so, what do you study?
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feeling lethargic so I took a gram of caffeine

send help
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>>39391622
I live here m8

firefighting/EMS so not really studying per se, just getting certs
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>>39391627
lol what would you do if a black persons house was burning?

how long did it take to get from CR to the US? with all the formalities and shit
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>>39391623
you couldn't pop one or two at first?
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>>39391662
I usually take this much, just FAWKING WITH U M8

>tfw smoking and dying already but I'm so young meme me

Ayee, I'm going to be a good personal trainer
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>>39391659
Can't say exactly, I was young when we moved here. As in less than a few years old.

>If a black persons house was burning

As I've said countless times yet people don't seem to understand; I don't blindly hate anybody based on their race or religious ideologies (except the jews, fuck the jews)

I agree that each race should be localized to their own geographic area of origination, and certainly shouldn't cross breed and live together, but I think that blind hatred of anyone based on racial preference is just as retarded as blind adoration of people based on their racial, sexual, or any other identification (e.g. liberals)

so to answer you're question, I'd help regardless of race.

unless sneaky jew
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>>39391458
The question was for a handgun to kill a bear. Something like that calls for a .44 magnum (for a little bear) or a .454 casull (for a medium bear).

If you're up against a grizzly and all you have is a handgun, your best bet is to use it on yourself.
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>>39391708
u really don't think I couldn't choke out a grizzly
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>>39391708
Actually the question about a HANDGUN for a bear was for him. Mine was regarding rifles as well, though a decent handgun would be acceptable.

That being said I agree with your point about caliber, and about the grizzly kek
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>>39391706
>I agree that each race should be localized to their own geographic area of origination
Don't take this as "well then you should go back to Czech rep." and don't take it as an "America belongs to the Natives" argument, but there is a flaw in your thinking or how you expressed what you think.
White people did not originate in the Americas.
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hey /fraud/, i'm running 4 weeks of 5mg lgd 4033
how on god's green earth am i meant to measure 5mg when not even a drop's worth is over 30mg?
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>>39391800
I would prefer to take it that way.

I agree in that. Which is why I cannot blindly hate any one race. It's a global thing, not just the fault of any one race. Whites should go back to European areas of origination, just as Africans should return to Africa, Arabs to the middle east, etc.

We're built, at our core, for survival in those environments. Whether that means physically or mentally, in terms of how we interact with our own people.
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>>39391817
dillute it
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>>39391817
by killing urself
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>>39391706
>sneaky jew
yes goyim?
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>>39391821
im really struggling on the math with this, could you give me a hand on what proportions of water to use, and then how much of that solution = 5mg lgd? i dont wanna die yet

>>39391832
not yet
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>>39391858
typical retard ass 15 year old

can't even do literal fucking 1st grade math

i guess that is how braindead you have to be to use sarms though
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>>39391819
> Whites should go back to European areas of origination
wouldn't have expected to hear this from you.

Do you consider yourself Czech or American? And do Americans consider you a Czech or an American?
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I want steak.
Ribeye.
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>>39391881
thanks
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>>39391858
if your lgd is 30mg/ml, add 1ml of lgd to 1ml of water

suddenly it's 15mg/ml

etc
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>>39391886
>"everything should feel this boop"
god damnit man every time

>>39391885
Americans wouldn't know the difference between me being a fucking martian or American. I'm just considered "white" nationality never enters into it, and I don't really think it should in terms of racial discussion anyway, so that's fine with me

I consider myself American seeing as how I've been here essentially the entire time I've been alive. But again, I think nationalities as systems of classification are pretty stupid, and redundant as long as you can racially identify someone
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>>39391895
I've read that mixing is not recommended, that it should be dropped in the back of the throat then chased
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>>39391927
raw lgd is powder

it's already been dilluted in whatever you have, either everclear or water
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>>39391895
alright im almost done being a retard
my lgd is 10mg/ml
if i buy an eye dropper that measures in ml, .5ml would give me 5mg lgd, correct?
i realize im stupid as all hell but i'd like another set of eyes before i destroy my body
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so I got laid off tinder, fuck you mast I might actually be ugly because my matches aren't going up.

>just want casual pussy
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>>39392110
did you bang a hot chick?
how many tries?

congratz breh
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>>39392167
I think she's hot. Kind of in a weird way, really thick legs, chubby, and the type you just really want to fuck.

idk what you mean by how many tries. This was the only girl I actually tried being somewhat human with. When we actually got together though, I was totally a fuckboy and I regret doing that.

It actually ended on really bad terms. She said I was being too aggressive and apparently I bit her. She was basically like, "You can go now" when it was over.

Later on she said sorry for kicking me out and that she had a nice time. Still like wtf tho.
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do any canada anons have links to pins & syringes?
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>>39392207
>Later on she said sorry for kicking me out and that she had a nice time. Still like wtf tho.

Lol this happens all the time to me. That just confirms that girls deeply like aggressive behaviour.

I do something douchey to a girl, she acts like a bitch at first but later on craves me even more and then apologies for acting like a cunt.
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>>39392236
ya but she hasn't done anything to imply she's interested in me still. sucks because she would be fun to casually fuck evne if she's basic as fuck.
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>>39392262
lol i dont give a shit if a girl shows disinterest unless its a direct "no".

i ask her to meet again and if she says yes then she is still interested, even if she acts/acted bitchy to me.

you ask her:
she says yes, you go ahead and bang again.

she says no, you move on with life.

you give up before you even tried
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>>39392023
You are exactly correct.
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>planning camping trip, decided to change the location
>now set for glacier national park back country
>the region with at-large camping
>taking qtczgf while she has her 1 month vacation time
>tfw 1 month of fishing, fucking, reading, comfy /innawoods/ living, and taking tons of photos

only wish I could hunt in glacier, but fuark, can't wait
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>>39392306
I asked her when are we going to hang out again on snapchat and she never responded lol.

I'll try again this time directly to her number, but I definitely tried m8
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>>39392345
where will you stay at?

i mean you cant just camp for 1 month straight
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>>39392376
well then thats another story then.

move on m8, nothing you can do.
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>>39392400
I mean, I think I asked her too soon after. I'll try one more time just for fuck's sake, literally then say..."anal" and go on.
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>>39392377
>you cant just camp for one month straight

you're talking to the guy who survived for 2 months in the middle of winter with a -60* rated sleeping bag, a tarp, a hatchet, 6 packets of MRE's, and a .22 pistol after being kicked out of his house by his dad when he was 16 for being a little druggie faggot

oh and I had a metal pot I used as a mug to melt snow in for drinking; and to cook eggs in. I'd steal eggs from the farmer (thank god I wandered close enough to the edge of the woods) and his chicken coop every once in a while

the only thing I fucking got the entire time I was out there was a stupid fucking rabbit though, and that had barely any meat on it. kinda shitty tbqh

regardless my point being, shit like that is kinda fun to me. Camping for 1 month is fucking easy as shit if you start out with the right tools and basics that you need. Besides I'll have two people, we'll just split some MRE's in case either one of us gets separated, but she'll have a pack so that's essentially an entire second load of tools/utilities.

>semi-related

oh and I decided on my weapons. I think I'll just get another 12 gauge and take that + my .22 pistol and get a 4x scope for that, small game if I absolutely need it. Otherwise with hunting being illegal in the parks I don't wanna piss off some ranger
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>>39392439
>who survived for 2 months in the middle of winter with a -60* rated sleeping bag, a tarp, a hatchet, 6 packets of MRE's, and a .22 pistol after being kicked out of his house by his dad when he was 16 for being a little druggie faggot

oh i can see.

note, this is nature, not urban envinvronment where you can find a halph eaten donald burger in every trash bin. Just saying.

cool approach and mindset though. I plan to do something similar, but for a week, not a month lol.

Is that park really inhabited by so many apex predators? Or is this just the murican mindset "ill take my gun everywhere i go because MUUH SAFETY".
No offense, just curious.

Whats the temperature like at your destination, this time of the year? Where are you going?

I wanna google it
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I have incredibly bad self loathing and body dsymorphia and it drains me.
Just got told by some girl that I actually look good,that any girl would accept me but I cant believe that.
>>39392439
Fuck camping how to hang myself with a belt ?
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just increased by DNP to 600mg powder from being on 400mg. still barely any sides other than ears feeling warm when the dnp peaks. i think i got the sweats once when i ate carbs (the one time) and other than that nothing

i also live in a cold environment so its hard to feel cold in my apartment without the heating on anyway, am i doing all right?
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>>39392514
not even sweating at night? 750 crystal has me waking up every so often completely drenched in fucking sweat.

i woke up last night with my pillows, sheet, and towels (2 of them lel) completely drenched, had to get up and lay some clean clothes over where i sleep to have something dry to lie on.

happens even with the window open with 30 degree F temperatures
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y do i look exactly the fucking literal same after losing 20 fucking lbs

i hate how dnp fucking works this way, how u dont see fuckign SHIT until you come off for a week

such a god damn MIND FUCK in my ASSHOLE. every ounce of fat on my body is just a bag of water right now. usually I only retain it on my hips lower back and lower abdominal area. right now i am telling you, it is fucking everywhere.

I pinch the fat, and it is like you are pinching a sponge full of fucking water. it is so fucking disgusting
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>>39392514
how long have you been on?
>>
If I reduce my blast to trt lvls will I pass being tested for steroids?
Or do I have to come off them completely and just have my natty test
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>>39392710
depends

what are you on
>>
>>39392710
lol
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>>39392722
and how long before the test

IDK if they test LH and FSH or not, but if they do you're gonna be fucked unless you have months to prepare
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>>39392653
you look the same after dropping 20 lbs?

i dont get it.
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>>39392749
well worse actually

cuz dnp completely depletes your glycogen and makes you retain insane amounts of water, so u look like complete shit until you come off of it

last time i used it my abdominal skinfold went from 14mm the day of the last dose, to 7mm a week or so after I came off, for example
>>
whats up!
so i just hopped on Tren for the first time and i heard that it gives you nightmares and insomnia. has anyone had this and had methods of dealing with it?
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>>39392855
yea sleep every other day

lol

yes i actually did this for a while
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>>39392710
on a pure detection level, assuming only test and nothing else was ever in your body, test e is detectable for around 3 months after the last pin. prop around 2 weeks. this is for actual steroids tests.

if all they do is a regular blood test and look at the values, your test will be "normal" but your LH and FSH will be completely crashed which is a pretty telling sign of test usage
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>>39392871
sheeeeit

so melatonin doesnt help? what about benzos?
>>
so i just accidently injected air into my muscle.

i aspirated.

is this bad?
will my leg be dead in a week
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>>39392490
At work, but basically the amerilard mindset, although there are quite a few predators especially in a remote area like that where food is still semi accessible to them at all times (due to people's food supplies)

Temp in my area this time of year is around 40-50*F, not bad at all. Winter can get to -20*F factoring in windchill.

It's much worse there in the park, much further north + mountain/gulley winds
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>>39392674
few days but i frontloaded and my blood levels should be steady now
>>39392581
only when i eat carbs or fall asleep clothed
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Does this work
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>>39393004
yes, and eating sweet potatoes increases test levels
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>>39393004
why are animals like this allowed to not be in slavery
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>>39385638
>feel great

I have yet to see a single scene where you can stay hard with anything in your butt
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>>39393069
Quite the statement...
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