thoughts?

>>39326927
Yeah, you suck

Didn't dedicate to dieting properly, lifted maybe 3x a week. Imo he fucked around too much

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>>39326973
>lifted maybe 3x a week

>>39326927
My fucking sides. Can't believe you actually thought posting this shit was a good idea. Please let this be bait.

Retarded question incoming:

Is there any truth in his "if you're a skinnyfat piece of shit, you need to do basic bodyweight work before you can actually get anywhere with an actual gym routine?"
I'm sick of being an out of shape pear-looking faggot and want to get more healthy - should I jump right into one of the 5x5 things from the sticky or should I focus on being able to do a pullup first?

>>39326958
>>39326973
>>39327019
>all these newfags

he would have look so much better if would have gotten lean then just bulk slowly

>>39326973
literally nothing wrong with full body 3x/week, and just because you do it you don't have to do SS and no accessories

>>39327027
Fuck off edge lord

>>39327025
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_PdXfTvxOF0ZXIy3hlVGmo0GeMdRDEz1

>>39327025
Bodyweight stuff is harder than lifting, how many lifters can do something as basic as holding a handstand for 5s?

>>39326927
it took you 2 years to realise SS is just a meme?

>>39327052
I think he meant more like push ups and pull ups and shit

>>39327088
Yeah, this.
I'm retarded and don't know what the right terminology is - sorry.

>>39327025
Just do 5x5. It's made for beginners to learn the movements while constantly making progress. After a few weeks do your research and pick a real program that fits your goals.

>>39327117

after a longer break from lifting weights (was a beginner anyway, didnt do it for long yet) I had similar thoughts. Back then I made the observation that even if i progress on the lifts, e.g benchpress more then 60gk after some time, i was not able to do proper pushups.

for my restart i therefore decied to start with bodyweight training first up to a decent level. meaning being able to do proper push ups for a reasonable amount of reps as well as pull ups.

>>39327052
handstand requires very little strength. it's basically 90% balancing act. hs pushups are a different story though. they require both.

source: can hold 30s+ free handstands and free hs pushups (proper ones, not some elbows flared out bullshit)

>>39327160
You never once thought that you could train pushups and bench at the same time? You just fucking quit lifting because you didn't practice pushups and therefore couldn't do them?

>>39327044
>>39327150
>>39327160
Thanks bros.
I think I'm going to do a 5x5 and just add in pullups.

Also, what's a "real program" and do I need one if all I'm looking for is not being a fat fuck. I don't want to be a /fit/ freak and develop BDD. Would kind of defeat the purpose of why I'm doing this in the first place.

>>39327194
Watch the playlist I linked.

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You gotta eat big to get big!

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>>39327052
No. Balance is seperate from strentgh. The lifters' limiting factor is thus balance in that movement. Different ways of training are different.

>>39327260
So liftfag can learn it if he wants.

>>39327025
Speaking as someone who was a skinnyfat piece of trash, I had a lot of problems making gains early on because I basically didn't have stabilizers at all. If you're starting then 5x5 is definitely fine but you've got to remember not to take it too fast and to stress FORM over WEIGHT every single fucking time. Do not get greedy and start adding more weight just because you're eager for gains, it'll come back to bite you in the ass later. Things like your hamstrings, your spinal erectors, your triceps, your core in general are all lacking massively so remember that.

>>39327194
Once you make sure you have your form down, you should hop on Greyskull LP. It is the best, hands-down, beginner program. But I say you should learn your form first, because on the program, you will be going to near failure, and you need to make sure you won't injure yourself via form breaking down.

>>39327407
>>39327494
Yeah, I don't know how much sense this makes, but I was going to follow the stronglift recommendation and use just the bar for a week (except for deadlift because apparently that doesn't work with just the bar?) and add like 5lbs every session after that until it gets really difficult.

Would doing a 5x5 like stronglift then transitioning to the other one after a few months work?