Looking for guidance here.
I'm 21% bodyfat. Lost a lot of weight slow and steady.
Even put on some muscle.
I'm starting to get impatient. 12% body fat and looking lean is so close I can taste it, for the first time since I was 12.
Anyways, past week, I've been eating like 800-1000 calories a day, doing cardio for an hour. (am also tall and heavy)
Not even getting that hungry. Not getting lightheaded.
Can still lift weights.
When I get hungry I just drink coffee and the hunger stops.
My concern: Will I cannibalize muscle at this deficit. I have some (hard fought) muscle on my frame and I don't want to lose it.
I want this so bad and it's so close but 50% of people say that I will lose muscle and 50% say it's fine.
Can someone please tell me and explain why. Thank you.
>Will I cannibalize muscle at this deficit
Yes. From the information you posted, that's a guarantee m8
>>39307765
look up Lyle Mcdonald's Rapid Fat Loss book. PSMF is well supported, and works very well to shave off the last percentages of body fat.
whats your body weight?
>>39307814
So basically if I eat 3 scoops of whey a day and almost nothing else I can do this with minimal muscle loss?
You promise you aren't meming me?
I really want to be somewhat asthetic.
Keep in mind for an ex fatty that means a tiny bt of muscle and 12% bf and it's so close I can taste it.
I will obviously keep training and bulk once I hit 12% but at least my self esteem will be higher @ 12%.
>>39307819
189 6'0 21.4" bf%
>>39307869
dont go any lower than 10x your body weight in lb for calories. Eat 1g of protein for each lb of weight minimally. Ideally eat your meals following an 8/16 intermittent fasting schedule I'd say.
>>39307869
Read the book you dumb faggot. The information in it is great for any kind of diet, so even if you don't do PSMF, it's a good resource.
>>39307880
Your calories are way too low.
1890 per day if you're 189lb.
>>39307901
>>39307907
>>39307914
Thanks guys.
>following an 8/16 intermittent fasting schedule I'd say.
I've been eating 8 small meals a day.
Bad idea?
Some meme article someone posted on fit suggested it.
>>39308028
It doesn't matter
>>39308028
literally doesn't matter. ignore eating schedules and stupid 'fasting mode' memes
PSMF phagot
>>39307765
>>39307880
You'll lose muscle
Eat around 2000-2100 calories per day and stop trying to rush things.
If you're 189 @21% bf you have about 40 lbs of fat
Lost 20lbs of that and you're down to 10% bf @ 170lbs
you'll lose just over a pound a week doing this on average so it'll take 20 weeks, which is just under 5 months.
Whats 5 months? Its fuck all. It will probably go even quicker as long as you're consistent and cardio (and eat back the calories you burn from it)
I know its possible OP because i have done it.
I did pic related in about 2 1/2 months
Which was a 16lbs weight loss opposed to your 20. I lost a bit of muscle even on 2000-2100 calories. You'll lose way more on a cut as hard as the one you're describing.
I fucked it all up and bulked too hard again after lel, dont do that
>>39307765
> I've been eating like 800-1000 calories a day
> doing cardio for an hour
> when I get hungry I just drink coffee
M8 100% of the """fat""" you lost during that time period is muscle
Here's some statistics about doing a deficit at that level
>non-overweight men who consumed 50% of their maintenance caloric intake for 24 weeks and lost one fourth of their body mass experienced a 40% reduction in their baseline energy expenditure. Of that 40% reduction 25% was due to weight loss, while metabolic adaptation accounted for the remaining 15%
>While greater deficits yield faster weight loss, the percentage of weight loss coming from lean body mass (LBM) tends to increase as the size of the deficit increases
>Weekly weight loss rates of 1.4% of bodyweight compared to 0.7% in athletes during caloric restriction lasting four to eleven weeks resulted in reductions of fat mass of 21% in the faster weight loss group and 31% in the slower loss group
>In addition, LBM increased on average by 2.1% in the slower loss group while remaining unchanged in the faster loss group. Worthy of note, small amounts of LBM were lost among leaner subjects in the faster loss group
>At a loss rate of 0.5 kg per week (assuming a majority of weight lost is fat mass), a 70 kg athlete at 13% body fat would need to be no more than 6 kg to 7 kg over their contest weight in order to achieve the lowest body fat percentages recorded in competitive bodybuilders
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4033492/
>>39308565
>If you're 189 @21% bf you have about 40 lbs of fat
Why are you giving advice when you're *THIS* dumb? Bf% is a measure of the tissue on your body that is fat.
>Imlying someone that is 170lbs and 10% bf has SEVENTEEN FUCKING POUNDS of fat on their frame
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Op disregard this guy.
>>39308623
body fat percentage is total mass of fat divided by total body mass x100
if somebody is 10% bf @ 170
fM/tM x100 = bf%
(bf%/100) * tM = fM
(10/100) * 170 = fM
0.1 * 170 = fM
17 = fM
>>39308575
abort abort abort
going to go eat something brb
>>39308565
looking good dude
>>39307765
I've done quite a rushed diet this year, OP. I'm 6'4, I went from 260lbs to 212lbs in just over 3 months. I have no idea about numbers and deficits, I just pushed myself really fucking hard regarding everything. I think I was at around 21-23% bf when I was finished. That's around 3,75 lbs per week on average and I lost quite a lot of muscle. It was visible and I could feel it in my lifts as well. Before my diet I did curls with ~40lbs barbells and I dropped to around 30. I worked out at home so this is the only benchmark I have but the answer is yes, you will lose a lot of muscle at such a rate.
>>39307765
Research this shit yourself man, if opinion is split 50/50 when you ask people that's a good indicator that maybe it's not so simple an issue and there are a lot of variables involved and........
I actually need to research this particular question myself, as it's something I've been grappling with too these past few months. Currently yo-yoing between bulking-cutting.
>>39308623
Also to add to >>39308697
check out this alan thrall video where people who are 9-10% bf look pudgier and less ripped because they have less overall muscle mass to spread thier fat over. 10% bf isnt some kind of magic number where you'll look good no matter what. If you dont lift or have little mass you're gonna look like shit.
https://youtu.be/1oWcpweTuXs