Coke

Great while on it.
Too expensive though. I prefer opiates.

Too expensive and the comedown is hell. The massive dopamine release can't be good for your brain to use on a regular basis. Lots of people have fucked their lives up royally with it. Not sure if you need more reasons for no but there are probably many more

>>39307385
there are a lot cheaper options avalible.
GHB is better for clubbing though

>>39307407
>excercising on opiates

>>39307478
Don't think he means for exercise tho

What is valium like?
What is a good dose for someone who has never tried it?

I got a box of 10mg tablets but haven't had chance to try it yet.

Should I? Or is it a bad idea to use?

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>>39307467
>tfw

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/10/health/cocaine-users-face-greater-risk-of-aneurysm.html?_r=0

>>39307651
Gotta love the feels though

Doing come a handful of times in your life is fine. After that it's terrible.

Nobody thinks "cocaine guy" is cool/fun to be around. Being anxious to find something better, one upping each other's stories is not where it's at. Everyone knows you're on blow, you're not slick or fooling anybody.

Overrated. Way overrated.

Still, best way to blow a paycheck in a weekend.

Liked to do it often until friend who's my age got a stroke from it so I stopped, every once in a while now, quite rare.
Open to other stuff but haven't really tried anything yet.

/fit/ recreation drug tier list

GOD TIER
mdma

HIGH TIER
lmao weed

MID TIER
lsd
mushrooms

LOW TIER
cocaine

SHIT TIER
alcohol

>>39307385
I like to do coke and tie my girlfriend up, fuck her for hours at a time and blast music. Its a great way to spend a weekend.

I don't understand the relationship between this thread and fitness though

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>>39307837
Is this you?

>>39307839
Cool story.
See op's second question.

>>39307837
not listing amphetamines or GHB, topkek faggot

>>39307385
People on coke are boring and irritable.

>>39307999
Both are shit tier anyways.

>>39307732
>doing come
sure dude... whatever you say

Cocaine is great when on a cut, it's god-tier for weight loss.

Other than that, it's eh. It makes you too anxious and restless for socializing.

>>39307837
>weed above lsd and mushrooms
>alcohol at bottom
Might I suggest deleting your post.

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>>39308324
>not 420blazing it on a bulk

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>>39308339
>im bulking okay mom!

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>>39308350
say goodbye to your gains

Never done any type of drugs ever

>>39307837
MDMA is the most toxic of your list. While alcohol damages the brain and coke increase greatly your cardiovascular risk ending with strokes or heart attacks before 30, if you stop them, the damage is mainly reversible. MDMA neurotoxicity is NOT reversible. If you fuck your shit up by dosing too much or too often, you won't recover, or very very slowly, in decades. Serotonins neurons dead from MDMA use don't regrow.

From what I've read, on human and animal studies (including primates, after 50 liftimes doses, (aka dosing once a week for a year, or twice a month for two years) you'll see irreverisble slight cognitive defects. After 200-300 lifetime doses, you're basically a moron with sleep apnea and noticable cognitive defects for life.
And my anedoctical observation 100% confirm this.

MDMA is utter shit. Thank god I only take this shit four times before reading good scientific article about it

weed makes you stupid in the long run. Very stupid. It's good if you use it very unfrequently though

lsd + shrooms are kind of okay,

the only "safe" drugs are ritalin/ ghb for clubbing

weed doesn't make you stupid in the long run you absolute mong. it can ruin your motivation though

>>39307837
Your post makes you sound like a 16 year old girl who did all of those drugs except weed just once.

>>39308453
>don't want to fuck myself up permanently
>nothing matches mdma binges with a loving gf, not heroin, not coke, etc where every touch is god-tier
Life's a cruel mistress m8. At least shrooms+lsd make a good combo.

Do coke before you workout if you want to have a stroke.

>>39307520
answer me u fags

Unless youre in south america your coke is cut to shit and extremely overpriced. Doing less than a g of good blow by yourself and your gonna have a bad time, not worth it at all once you've experienced how good it can be.

>>39308576
Fucking google it you donkey. You're really willing to put your life in the hands of an imageboard?

it's a downer, research correct dosage because if you take too much your heart stops you fuck.

>>39308576
pop em' all

>>39308453
>all this broscience

I know a fair few ravers who have taken MDMA every weekend for years and, while most of them were fairly dumb already, they haven't got any stupider. One guy teaches medicine at university lmao

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>>39308453
>weed makes you stupid in the long run

>>39307407
>Great while on it
yeah I agree...that shit is magical. The problem is, I always want more. Easy to find in South FL tho

>Too expensive tho
Stay back, i dont want your poor to rub off on me

>i prefer opiates
edgy

In my opinion weed is always fine, even on a cut as long as you have self control.

>>39308576
Take one tablet and try it.

>>39307837
missing speed

>>39308453
You don't think coke damages the brain?

>>39308932
>Stay back, i dont want your poor to rub off on me

edgy

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>>39308932
>edgy

i like cocaine. it's fun. Maybe it damages my brain, but so does drinking and smoking.

coke is the only way to stay up past 1-2 for me as well.

>did coke for the first time a few weeks ago
>felt amazing, full of energy, love, and euphoria
>try it again a few days ago
>only feel energetic and irritated, no euphoria
Did I get bad coke or did I break myself?

>>39307478
>exercising on coke
too short-lived and extra strain on your heart isnt a good idea and will not feel good

>>39307837
>not listing DMT
coke and weed are alright, lsd/shrooms are better, but nothing comes even close to a breakthrough.
stay pleb

>>39311075
Could've had a little bit of meth in it. Was it already powder when you bought it?

>>39307385
Crack is the best pre-workout

GHB is fun but seen way too many people doing it wrong and G drop

Coke is pretty great but

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>>39308453
Chances are it was cut with some nasty shit.
Pure MDMA will cure depression.
Also, Sealy, feeding monkeys MDMA every week?? And you don't see a problem with that?

>>39308653
This.

>>39307385
I would think lifting on a light dose of benzos or maybe amphetamines would help.

>>39307385
coke is tight as fuck. lets me power black out. use about every other weekend lately once or twice. i dont over do it and drink tons of water along with booze. Prolly bad for gainz but still come back stronger week after week so idgaf

>>39307837
I haven't fucked with MDMA in about 6 years, but I remember it being pretty good. Haven't been into weed since finishing high school either. Benzos and Alcohol are all I get into if anything at all.

>>39307520
Take one sublingually and see how you feel. It's subtle but obvious once you realize. If you wanna be hectic have 20mg and you won't remember anything the next morning, but fun while it lasts

ethylphenidate and mpa and god tier drugs

>>39312993

>pure MDMA will cure depression

do you even brain you fucking faggot
mdma will make you feel better while you're on it because your brain is full of dopamine and serotonin
guess what genius, this will downregulate your receptors in the short term, and the excitotoxicity will cause neuron death
meaning that not only are you more prone to depression in future, enjoy the numerous processing and memory issues that will result from heavy or long term use

I mean I love drugs, but these are indisputable facts - MDAI is actually a result of attempting to mimic mdma in a less neurotoxic way for research purposes, because mdma is really bad for you

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>>39313325
nah my mani did it once and now I feel better all the time desu


it works more like fuel injector cleaner for your happiness

>>39313346

anecdotes make for really bad conclusions friendo

>>39307453
Where the fuck do i get ghb though

>>39308453
Ritalin? Lmao

>>39313105
Pls be carwful with benzos. Havent touched them for 500+ days and im still experiencing w/ds

>>39313466
that sounds fucked up

how much did you use to take?

>>39307453
Enjoy physical addiction and never getting off again

>>39313530
12mg+ etizolam every day for ~4 years

>>39311075
Either you actually snorted meth the first time, or the stuff the coke was cut with the second time around reacted badly with you.

Cocaine varies widely based on what it's cut with, and what percentage the cut is.

Used it as a prework out before i joined the military. Worked like a charm. As with all things becareful of the long trem effects

>>39307732
how many times have you done cum? 'Twice', I'd assume ;)

>>39307385
You'll achieve zyzz-mode with it as long as you remember to take your vitamin s.

>>39308453
talking out your ass, the post

>>39314900
If he snortef meth he'd have felt 1000x better than if he'd taken. Probably just pure lidocaine he had.

>>39311875
Where to get? I dont live in amazon.

>>39313544
Ghb is impossible to ecoema ddi ted to

>>39308653
>not knowing where to find good coke

What city do you live in? Fishscale is easy to find in US major cities (meaning NYC, LA, Houston, and Chicago) and the cities they directly connect to. FFS, even Austin has fishscale now thanks to all the yuppies.

Just gotta know the right people m8. Sorry you havent found anything good.

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>>39315538
>fishscale
>good

pick one

>>39307837
Swap md with coke and youre bang on. Md is absolutely filthy. Never putting that shit in my body again

I've done coke before working out. it fucking sucks.

>>39315701
>fishscale
>slang for pure or almost pure
>saying its not good

Enjoy your meth-cut blow newfriend!

>>39307837
Idk my god tier would be alcohol, mushrooms, and lsd. The others are pretty meh but thats just me

>>39315198
>euphoria

You overlooked this part? Cocaine doesn't really have much of an intense euphoric response, unless maybe it's your first time and you do a huge line. Meth on the other hand does.

>>39314985
>You'll achieve zyzz-mode with it
So heart attack in sauna?

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>>39307837
>HIGH TIER
>lmao weed
I see what you did there.

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>>39308453
>weed makes you stupid in the long run. Very stupid.
Care to explain how or link to some studies? I am interested.

>>39308453
weed makes you stupid? how so?

>>39315932
>>39316010
Not that guy, but he probably refers to anegdotal experiences. I know couple of people who smoke all day erry day and they have toruble focusing or thinking in general. They're dumb as stupid, but dumb as "brain-stunned".
I'm also curious if there's any studies on this.

>>39316089
Well maybe that's just because they're high all the time

>>39316136
Doesn't weed creates tolerance? If so, how the fuck a couple that has been smoking since years can get high easily?

>>39311885
Nah I had to crush a few lumps both times, the coke tasted the same and smelt vaguely of horseradish if that means anything.
>>39314900
Does snorting meth do anything? I've taken adderal which is like a micro dose of meth and I didn't feel the same sense of euphoria.

>>39316420
snorting meth is magical, i suggest you don't do it. I'm still struggling to get off.

I'm too scared of addiction to give it a try

>>39316450
Fuck I just hope that the coke gave me that feeling and not meth. How can you tell if coke is cut with meth? I didn't have any trouble sleeping that night aside from some spins from drinking.

>>39316420
The coke was the probably just less pure and snorting meth is amazing. Snorting a real good gagger will make you feel like your chest is lifting you up into the air and you're floating. You'll be attentive and just feeling like a badass. But once the initial high wears you've still got a couple days of being high depending on how much you did. A little can go a long way and a lot makes you stay up for 3 days.

>>39316464
coke addiction only lasts the night you are doing it, you don't get physically addicted past that

>>39316496
were you geeked for like 18+ hours? if not, it wasn't cut with meth.

>>39316546
LOL keep telling yourself that. Hahaha

>>39316534
So it definitely wasn't meth if I was complelty down in like 4 hours.

>>39316590
it is a common fact? try google

>>39316546
Still won't convince me. I was dumb enough to get addicted to weed before, I'm not taking any risks

>>39316597
Ya, no addiction, right buddy. Then why are there rehabs full of coke addicts?

You're like 12 or something? No life experience? Never met a coke addict? Because I've met several.

>>39316597
what rock are you living under?

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>>39316651
He's talking about physical addiction moron.
Obviously mental addiction is a problem for coke, like it is for almost anything you can imagine.

>>39316696
Cause mental addiction isn't an addiction? Gtfo idiot

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>>39316605
>addicted to weed

>>39316696
>Sure, if I supply my body constantly with high amount of dopamine it won't mess my body's natural ability to manage it

>>39316726
epic meme

>>39307385
>>39307407
>>39307426
These. I tried to workout after a run in with some blow, about a q of a gram, and I could just feel my heartbeat being off. Lifting on the comedown was aweful. Honestly, I'd avoid the shit altogether.

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>>39316739
u trict me into resbondin :DD ebin m8

>>39316730
More of a long term abuse issue. Most people would probably go broke and force themselves to quit long before that point.
Unless you're rich in which case fuck it.

>>39313058
>lifting on benzos
what the fuck?

>>39316726
I know this is bait, but I used to be addicted to yugioh cards. You can get addicted to anything.

>>39316796
You're extremely ignorant about drugs. Just shit up

>tfw dont usually do coke
>tfw friend gifted me an 8ball for my bday
>tfw doing bumps while playing vidya

Welp

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>>39308453
The neurotoxicity is negligible if you wait ~3 months between doses.

And there's TONS of supplements listed online to further mitigate cognitive damage.

http://www.rollsafe.org/

And peaking on MDMA while hooking with a girl I'd had a crush on for years is the best feeling I've ever had.

>>39307837

WORD

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>>39316605
>addicted to weed

>>39317209
>implying marijuana doesn't have addictive qualities

>>39317111
Mountain View?

>>39317111
Chick on left does porn?

>>39316420
>snorting meth

a .5 lasted me 3 days during which I neither slept nor ate. And I'm a semi-regular coke user.

Yeah, it has an effect. kek

>>39316496
>able to sleep that night

Ahh, likely not meth then.

Somebody once told me that snorting meth stings like a mother fucker. Is this true?

>>39316651
Buddy coke isn't nearly as physically addictive as people say it is, I can grab an ounce, do it every day for like 5 weeks til its gone, and have no urge to do more after waking up the next morning.

You can get addicted to anything, though, doesn't even have to be PHYSICALLY addictive, you'll just get physically addicted to the dopamine response it gives you. kek

>>39316730
>what are downers

Yes, you'll be a little 'down" for a few days after a binge before your brain re-adjusts and starts producing the correct amount of neurochemicals again.

You sound like a DARE spokesman.

>>39317356
Fucking LoL. 9/10 almost fell for the bait.

>>39317356
>Impliying that the shit you snort is cocaine
>impliying that the sell you puré cocaine
>Impliying that you didnt snort 99% aspirin and 1% cocaine

Fucking americano you are a fucking idiot

>>39317389
>bait

?????

>>39317446

Buddy you're from South America. You lose.

>>39317306
You actually made that last pretty long.

>>39307837
Im fine with this scale

>>39307385
Unless it's really good coke and you have a lot of it, it's just not worth it

>>39307837
Mushrooms DMT LSD in that order all else shit

>>39307385
drugs are degenerate

>>39308438
good boy.

>>39317209
anything that feels good and is easy to do will be somewhat addicting.

>>39316162
You still can still get high pretty easily even with a lot of tolerance. It just won't be so overwhelming and it won't last as long. I smoke at least twice a day so I think I know what I'm talking about.

>>39317111
>>39317111

>neurotoxicity negligible if you wait 3 months
>rollsafe

This is completely pulled out of the arse of the very delusional risk reduction fags who seriously think they can take every drug ever as long as they take antioxydants and jog a few miles a week. These are the same guys who field test you pills for free, not saying that their tests are very unreliable and only test for the compound and not the contaminants. They are snake oils peddlers, and I laugh at them every time I hear their deluded rants about how crack cocaine is compeltely safe if you know what you're doing. Don't be deluded by these fools, they would say it's completely safe to jump from an airplane as long as you strap an elastic to your feets.

And besides, the fact that they counsel polydrugs user to wait 3 fucking months between two doses is an implicit admission of the very high and irreversible toxicity of MDMA. Even them can't deny it. If even these fools tell you to take it easy and to not do it to much, you should not do it at all.

Plus who seriously wait 3 months between doses? bullfucking shit. You dose every weekend or dose "from time to time" which means once or twice a year at a big festival, and when you do this its 3-4 times, not only once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wWC3_mclHg

>>39316089
There wont be studies.

It's too powerful of a movement to kill, and (((someone))) must have something to gain by pushing and normalizing something that makes people chilled out pacifists over time.

Anecdotal experience here too. My friends and I all come from the same background, class, and experience. I was the only one who didn't become a stoner in highschool. I'm 30 now, borderline /fit thanks to coming here for a year now, with a career, wife, house, hobbies, etc. ...Meanwhile some of them still live at home, basically NEETs. Some of them room up in roach infested apartments working minimum wage. Rollllllll anotherone~

Alright I'll fuck off back to pol before butthurt comes my way.

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>>39308453
I'm not pulling that out of my arse, as much as I would like.

All MDMA toxicity studies are pretty congruent. You have proof of specific serotoninergic neurotoxicity in rodents and primates, and in human studies you see quite troubling stuff in neuroimagery and cognitive tests. Some of these studies were very well conducted, aka took polydrugs users who didn't took MDMA as controls to minimize polydrug toxicity bias, or took MDMA only users (aka former mormons who only dose at festival) as cases. ALL the studies point towards a specific, liftime dose dependent and irreversible serotoninergic neurotoxicity. Some authors identified MDA which is a metabolite as the main serotoninergic neuron killer culprit.

Pic related is one of the primate study I mentioned. This specific study was heavily criticized cause they used very high doses for 3 days, but I compared the doses, it's not that high, and a dumb kid who go to burning man and take 5 heavily dosed pills a days for 3-4 days get the same mg/kg dosage. Plus the further primates studies showed pretty much the same very unsettling results. You can see that 7 years laters, the recovery is almost none. probably the same in human. Lifespan ajusted that's several decades.

Nail on the head was a recent sleep apnea study some neurologists did, and found a significant correlation between apnea hypopnea index and lifetime dose of MDMA. The MDMA probably fucks up the serotoninergic modulation of respiratory motoneurons and chemoreceptors.

>>39310246
Coke isn't by itself neurotoxic, aka it doesn't kill directly the neurons, contrary to mdma, or more simply to booze.
However, as you know, 90% of blow is consumed with booze, and coke with alcohol produce cocaethylene in vivo, which is way more toxic than cocaine only, or alcohol only. But still, it's way less a problem than MDMA.

The real problem is the coke strokes, that will kill a few hundred millions neuron pretty quickly.

>>39318760
Maybe, some people, you know, just like freedom, and dont like locking healthy, young men guilty of smoking a joint?

>>39307385
drugs generally are tragic to fitness, reduce the usage as much as you can, do your homework in harm reduction. If you are natty you shouldnt take drugs more often than 1-6 times a year.

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>>39318790
Not the guy but I agree. It's all in how you control yourself. like, 1 joint is fine once in a while but if you're a full on addicted to weed, it can be cringey lol

>>39318842
*if you're

sorry mobile

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>>39318786
>>39318760
>>39308779
>>39315932
>>39316010


A heap of studies point to mild cognitive deficits that are proportional to quantity, age of onset and duration of cannabis use. For example Pic related is from the infamous dunedin study which was on kiwi stoner patients. Meier & al 2012 for those who would like to check it out on their favorite not very legal science hub.

Of course your average college student who smokes weed 4 times a month for 3 years won't have any noticable effect, but for heavier or younger or longer user, you will see something. There is some reversibility though, but not complete especially for the most heavy users

While not neurotoxic by itself, it severly impairs some endocannabinoids systems and is a direct causal factor in certain types of schizophrenias. Don't tell me it's wrong, cause even the fucking stoners (which I was) admit to this.
What they call stoner paranoia is actually your brain getting a little bit what we call in psychiatry "interpretative delirium". Just the first step. When you tv talks to you, you're in trouble.

>>39318906
Really makes u think... I fucking hate weed anyways. All the girls in high school would ditch me for the fucking pot dealers, what about you?

>>39319038
Ha, in highschool I was actually the weed dealer. The very discreet low key exclusive one that deal high quality stuff to friends only. needless to say I didn't get laid at all, nor steal anyone girl.

Worse part is I don't even remember weed as a good experience

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>>39307385
>doing drugs

Enjoy dying in a sauna at 30 you fucking faggot

>>39308453
>alcohol damages the brain

popsci please leave

>>39319201
>alcohol does not damage the brain
>but all other drug magicaly do

upbringing can do magic to people beliefs

>>39319221
Alcohol fucks up your liver and heart in the long run but it doesn't mess with your brain
Please retake primary school chemistry before shittalking

>>39318786
MDMA as a weekly drug is idiotic.

MDMA as a festival drug where you take multiple pills is idiotic.

MDMA once a year (one pill only) isn't going to do much damage. Almost nobody is able to keep it at this level though.

>>39319256
please visit detoxication ward in a mental hospital and tell me about the lack of effects of alcohol on the brain

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Been doing coke pretty much daily for around 5 years now. Occasionally take breaks for a week or month if i'm too lazy to meet my dealer.

It's really not good for gym barring a very small pre-gym bump in tandem with the preworkout you would have taken anyway. If you attempt to use coke as preworkout you will be too anxious and irritable to lift anything.

Meth is the best lifting drug by far, I added 60lbs to my DL the first time I tried it and was throwing weights around like pillows. You will break every single PR in the best workout of your life, but then waste it all by not being able to sleep for the next 48-72hrs.

Most coke is trash though, and don't mix it with alcohol. Honestly I only really do a line anymore when I'm meal prepping and have to stand there tediously chopping food for 2 hours or If I have an essay/homework to do.

>>39319256
What is wet brain for 300? Alex

Alcohol effects the brain in many ways...

>>39319287
I've been there and it's always about 90% heroin or coke users
Alcoholics are either drunk on the street or in rehab, never in a mental hospital

>>39308072
Speed... Shit tier? HAHAHAHA
It's literally the drug of the ubermensch.
You obviously have never tried it

>>39319300
Doing coke for things like homework or cooking....do you consider yourself an addict? Cause you are

>>39319318
I wonder why my experience differs so much.

Seen few guys with no short-term memory. Uncapable of having a conversation, because they would not remember what you said to them. Only alcohol did this to them.

ketamine is obviously the best drug for /fit/. If you are looking to get joocy you are probably already taking some kind of veterinarian product like trenbolone so what difference does another one like ketamine make?

>>39319318
They go to psych wards all the time

>>39318786

What did the control brain look like after 7 years?

>>39308453
I've seen this happen. Amphetamine neurosis or some shit. Friend of mine became full on paranoid schizophrenic for a a few weeks and was never the same after. Miss him. Recreational drugs are dumb.

>>39319352
>only alcohol

Shows what you know. Internet, TV, porn, sugar, processed food, stress; all fuck with your short term memory.

>>39318786
can you recover from mdma abuse?

The only drug that people should use for fitness is heroin (in moderation) to ease DOMS. Works like a charm

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>>39319452
Im talking about literal no short term memory to the point where you dont know what were you thinking about now because you lost the train of thought.

Not "where I put my keys, woopsie"

>>39308653
Wtf? Do you think cocaine only comes from SA? Just shows how little you know bro, stop commenting

>>39319490
So was I you ignoramus. All the things I listed erode your presence of mind.

>>39319554
nothing of things you listed have such destructible effects as alcohol abuse
maybe except extreme stress and injecting pure glucose into brain

stop shilling for alcohol companies

>>39307385
coke's fun as fuck and anyone who says otherwise is a little virgin bitch

>>39319581
>shillling for alcohol companies

What?

>such destructible effects

The term is destructive you utter idiot.

>>39316651
I'm someone who has ALOT of experience with coke and many other drugs that are in fact physically addictive and know the difference.

>>39319686
you don't seem to have a lot of experience with the English language

list your preferred drugs from most preferred to least prefered

>>39319703

>mushrooms
>lsd
>dmt
>weed
>alcohol


addictive drugs is for fags without good judgement
>says the guy addicted to weed

>>39319719
are*

>>39319394
>>39319459
We're not monkey
there is some recovery. still it's not as reversible as others drugs. But you eventually compensate some of it; to maximise it never do recreational drugs and avoid binge drinking

>>39307385

Not worth it OP. Did it twice. The second time, I felt really anxious and sort of depressed the day after while also having an uncomfortable irregular heartbeat. The down kind of felt worse than on XTC for me.

>>39319771
>recreational drugs and avoid binge drinking

stopped both of those and my memory seems to be still getting worse, been a good few months since I last abused anything

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Any amanita bros here?

Picked a bunch last summer. Not something you'd do all the time, but they're interesting.

Never really tried proper deliriants or disassociatives. Don't know if amanita muscarias qualify.

Acid is still my go-to drug though.

If I want something to replicate the kind of loose warm buzz you get from somewhere in the region of 10 shots of spirits, that wasn't going to ruin my gains, what would /fit/ recommend? Leading option atm is low dose of acid

>>39319965
weed
benzos

or both at the same time might work. i think microdosing lsd could work too, from what ive heard about it.

>>39307385
MDMA (molly) is FAR better.

>coke
Give me your natty card bro

>>39318760
"Losers" are drawn to drugs because they have little else in life to gain pleasure/meaning from, the drugs aren't what got them there. But they help keep them there, definitely.

>>39319699
oops I misclicked my s key, good eye!

>>39319300
You've definitely overdone it my man, you really run the risk of frying your dopamine/serotonin production permanently tee bee aych.

>>39319475
I'm pretty sure a bullet to the brain is even more effective when combating DOMS, doesn't make it an ideal solution.

Seriously, H is your go-to for muscle soreness? You sure it's not just your go-to, period? kek

>>39308544
>16 yo who's done mdma, lsd, mushrooms, and cocaine

pretty fucked up 16 yo

>>39319677
>The term is destructive you utter idiot.

Not that anon, but you do realize that on 4chan for many users English is their second, or third, or fourth language?

Correcting anons in a friendly manner is good, but don't be an ass about it, especially considering the person you're correcting most likely speaks more languages than you do.

>>39307839
Nigga did you just watch Spun?

>>39319703
>marijuana
>methamphetamine
>amphetamine
>cocaine
>mushrooms
>opiates

All I've done so far. Want to try LSD, DMT, MDMA.

>>39307385

> pros
great feeling
easy to use
that confidence and euphoria

> cons
ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE to find good coke
the comedown is hell
fucks up and clogs your nose

>>39318906

>What they call stoner paranoia is actually your brain getting a little bit what we call in psychiatry "interpretative delirium". Just the first step. When you tv talks to you, you're in trouble.

you mean, during smoking or after? because i get all kinds of paranoia while smoking but i enjoy what it comes from it because i know i will get normal after a few hours

>>39311075

bad coke.

It should be hard not powdery. You should have to cut it up.

Also wet your fingertip and touch your tongue, good coke will give you an immediate rush of numbness to the tongue. Bad coke will just be a little numbness or hardly any at all.

Fuckin dealers cutting everything.

How do I make my psychiatrist give me drugs?
I am in college (frosh)
She gave me an initial diagnosis of an adjustment disorder. What can I do to make her give me drugs ? (I dont like drinking cough syrup all the time)

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>>39318906
>severly impairs some endocannabinoids systems
show your working. What do you mean by "severely impairs the system"?

>While not neurotoxic by itself
So it's neurotoxic in combination with something?

What do you mean by "some systems"? Cannabinoid receptors are expressed throughout the body, expecially in CNS tissue. Endocannabinoids are fatty acide amides and are metabolised as such in situ, not like alkaloids which are broken down by the cytochrome system in the liver. The exact metabolic pathway of cannabinoids is not fully understood; how then can you even begin to differentiate "systems"?

>direct causal factor
you obviously don't understand what "causal" means. Not even the etiology of schizophrenia is understood (even the "dopamine hypothesis" has is supported inductively from the effectiveness of anti-psychotics and their binding profiles). Genetics play a role, but we in psychiatry are still a long way off from identifying any causative alleles
>in certain types of schizophrenias
Again, "types" of schizophrenia refer to PRESENTATION; there is no difference in organic pathology. Psychiatry has moved away from "types" in any case, since it's more professional and specifc to say "disordered thought, loose association" etc than "hebephrenic schizophrenia".

>"interpretative delirium"
No, it's honest paranoia. Although hallucinations and delusions MAY be present in delirious patients, the defining characteristics of delirium are substantial cognitive impairment and altered state of consciousness/arousal. Stoner paranoia exhibits delusion (beliefs not susceptible to evidence) without any disorder of thought (stoners are still able to "justify" their paranoia in some way).

>When you tv talks to you, you're in trouble.
The TV doesn't talk to you. The government sends coded messages specific to you in the weather report.

>what we call in psychiatry
>we
>implying

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>>39321330
Oh, and maybe you meant to say "can provoke and acute episode of illness" instead of "direct causal factor". In which case, it's an association. Research has resorted to trying to show predictive power of cannabis usage, but is struggling to do so in a robust fashion. There is certainly no hope of establishing uni-lateral causality, especially given the extreme degree of co-morbidity between serious mental illness and substance abuse disorders. How do you know that schizophrenia isn't causing cannabis usage as self-medication? Certainly does with tobacco smoking; the vast majority (>80%) of schizophrenics smoke. And even though this strongly suggests intuitively that it's because nicotine decreases the severity of negative symptoms (in the strict sense, as in "positive and negative symptoms of schizophrenia"), we still haven't demonstrated it!

I'm not a cannabis advocate. I think cannabis as it is (CBD is another seperate issue and may very well have neuro-modulatory and anti-psychotic properties) should always be avoided. It a psychotropic substance whose claim benefits are only supported by anecdotes and have not been confirmed through any rigourous analysis/ Cannabis usage only complicates treatment and may very well be harmful to the patient. Not only this, but cannabis dependence (which IS real and broadly acknowledged) is a serious concern and also should form part of treatment.

But I will go out of my way to make a point that people on both sides of this "argument" talk completely out of their arses most of the time.

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>>39308453
I highly agree
>Pharmaceuticals at the top
TOP fucking HUE
The only pharmaceutical worth trying is steroids. Weed is really a waste of time and money. Your brain does the same thing if you just unplug all of your shit and sit in a quiet room without sperging in your head. Over a long period of time weed will make you a legitimate lazy retard.
>I know we've all see those cuckbook articles about how smoking weed err'day makes you a genius.
That's just contrary to life. People who smoke every day are actual retards. I see people make vows to essentially live in squalor and be shitty parents because weed is so important to them. >It only really hooks you into it if you start it at a young age.
If you try weed for the first time in your 20's you will think its discomforting or it's just like meditating. It really only becomes addictive if you get used to it before maturity really settles in, because by then you can just choose to feel however you want usually. People who smoke every day from a young age really cannot change the way they feel without drug abuse.

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>>39307837
GOD TIER
mxe
3-meo-pce

HIGH TIER
amphetamines
2c-i

NIGHTMARE TIER
dph
datura

MID TIER
5-meo-midt
doc
lsd
ephedrine
3-fpm

LOW TIER

SHIT TIER
literally everything else without exception

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>>39321443
>How do you know that schizophrenia isn't causing cannabis usage as self-medication?
Because that's not how reality operates.
>Schizo fag hear.

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>>39321455
Literally sucking off the ass of the pharmacopia like it's there to provide access to the answer. Sobriety or 1 of the conventional naturally occurring drugs are the only real non-meme choices.
>Alchahol
>Weed
>Mushrooms
Although of those 3 major choices I am not fond of modern weed culture.

>>39321536
Maybe before we had machines and more sophisticated motor skill tasks, weed made a lot more sense. But now it just leads to white niggers treating their kids with neglect and abuse.

>>39315538
"pure" no, I most sincerely promise you it is not. I don't care what US city it's in you are not getting anything close to pure. Unless you are making it yourself, you're not getting the good stuff and you're still paying way too much. Blow is $10 a g in Bolivia

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>>39321585
Cocaine isn't even bad. It's just expensive and you usually have to go on shifty ordeals to find the fucking stuff.

>>39319518
Yes. The vast majority comes from there, particularly Bolivia.

You sound like a tool and don't know what you're talking about.

>>39321594
Its pretty damn addictive and usually its the shit its cut with thats terrible for you

>>39319327
Not really, because when I stop for months at a time I have 0 urge to do it.

>>39320793
I was born with dop/ser imbalance lol.

>>39308453
>after 50 liftimes doses
anything is toxic in high quantities dumbass

try having 50 litres of water

spoiler, you'll die

>>39321952
>lifetime
Try not having 50 Litres of water throughout your life

>>39307385
coke fucking sucks unless it's super good (which is almost impossible to find), you have a ton of it and you have fun people to party with.

also coming down off of it sucks. There is no such thing as a satisfying end to a coke high. Have a bunch of benzos on hand to knock your ass out when you're ready to crash.

>>39321594
It's cardiotoxic as fuck; more so than meth and pretty much any other stimulant. If you want a premature death from heart problems, cocaine is your perfect vice.

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>>39315209
>mfw ahyuasca is allowed in my country and I can achieve nirvana mode every weekend. Best drug ever, only losers will say differently.

Sometimes I do coke and the high is amazing, but this drug is evil, you always want more and the depression after is fucking terrible.

>>39318786
a question for you anon

So when I'm done with the coke and I'm in my bed and see those little lightnings in my head running like a electrical circuit is my neurons saying good bye? That shit scares me sometimes

>>39321100
Pls help

>>39307794
/thread

>>39316719
He specifically said physically addicting you god damn imbecile

>>39322737
Doesn't that tea stuff make you puke and shit like a dying man? I can get wanting the euphoria, but that sounds straight up unpleasant desu.

>>39321585
Learn to synthesize baby!

>>39318399
the fuck, most people just do it at music festivals? you seem really fucking damaged. i've done it twice this year and would say its god tier.

>>39321585
You know there are ways to make your cocaine pure right?

>>39318906

I can't relate when people talk about paranoia from smoking weed. I've smoked weed every day for the last couple of years, I've done dabs, did a lot of dabs when I first started smoking(tolerance kind of skyrocketed from that). I've never experienced paranoia from smoking weed. I got a little scared I was never going to be sober again the very first time I did an edible that was too much for me, but I haven't experienced that since. Weed makes me feel calmer, helps me think, helps me not be so angry. I'm more paranoid when I'm sober.

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>>39318906
>When you tv talks to you, you're in trouble.
wait. it's not supposed to do that?

>>39322976
Sometimes, yeah. And can get pretty crazy too, I remember one time puking and seeig a Million eyed demon, i think unpleasure sensations while you're on it can he very intense, but the inner peace makes it all Worth it, you must be in a good spot with yourself too, can't hide anything under the mat. Best feeling i've ever had anon, along with philosophy made me believe in god again.

>>39322737
>ahyuasca
that shit is evil. i have never seen so many grown ups cry and crawl on the floor like infants

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>>39326915
it's all a learning m8, can't say I never cried, but I remember the reasons and the people I did wrong. It's all good.

>>39318906
Oh shit my tv started talking to me last year. I thought it was a feature!

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>>39319703
>lsd
>weed
>nicotine
>alcohol
>caffeine

That's all I've used. I want to try shrooms, lsa, dmt, mdma, and maybe 4-aco-dmt someday soon. What do you guys think of these drugs?

>>39321585
Yeah no shit its more expensive in the US, they have to sneak it into the country ffs.

Im not saying its cheap or 100% pure. I'm saying that yes, its possible to find close to pure coke for decent prices in major cities. Sorry you haven't made the right connections, but stop saying something that definitely exists doesn't exist because you can't find it.

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GOD TIER
>LSD
>Shrooms
>DMT

TOP TIER
>all other non-toxic hallucinogenic psychedelics
>DXM
>Ketamine
>MDMA

MID TIER
>weed
>methamphetamine (its amazing, but too risky)

LOW TIER
>amphetamine
>alcohol

RUIN YOUR LIFE/SHIT TIER
>heroine
>coke

But that's just me. Love that state of mind that psychedelics put you in. It's like reality with the volume turned up, if you've ever tripped, you know what I mean.

>>39318906
people are fucking around about your post but i actually did get some sort of lowkey religious schizophrenic sort of thing from smoking too much pot and eventually throwing dxm into the mix. Now when i just smoke pot i get suuuuper paranoid, self concious, and self doubtfu so i stopped altogether.

>>39320835
Fuck off dad

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>>39319300
nothing with vasoconstricting properties are good for preworkout my man. Your body is going through hell, you're just way too high to notice. I've tried lifting a couple times once on meth, once coke, and once propylhexedrine. Not a very fun time for my cardiovascular system. There's also nothing worse than forcing bland bodybuilding food down your gullet when you have absolutely no appetite.

>>39319300
>most coke is trash
You just buy shit drugs

>>39327464
Used to be like you, got paranoia about people shooting each other in my neighborhood and a stray bullet killing me or my mother. Paranoid about what if my gf is cheating. Paranoid realizing I'm a huge asshole, and what if everyone hates me. It sucks.

weed barely does anything for me anymore unless I smoke a lot, which I can't afford. I just get kind of out of it, and get really horny. Can't think about anything but fucking and jacking off, and once I do, I just lay there fucked up wishing I could jerk off again, then fall asleep.

The only way to really enjoy weed consistently is to take lots of tolerance breaks. 2-3 days here and there, a week or two sometimes. Really helps.

>>39319703

>DOC
>LSD
>shrooms
>2C-B
>XTC
>
like to do DMT if i get my hands on it, also smoke weed from time to time but don't really consider it a drug.

>>39315351
Hmmm... Really makes you think

>>39327459
>MDMA not God Tier
>Meth not shit tier

You're retarded m8

>>39307837
>SHIT TIER
>alcohol
Look at this faggot

I try not to do too much coke because everytime i do it, i ALWAYS have to shit within 1/2 hour.
They arent small shits either, theyre big beefy dumps.

Anyone else have this problem?

Its weird i know.
I get the same effects from taking caffiene pills too

>>39328415
MDMA would be god tier if I hadn't heard so many stories about people fucking themselves up on it. Serotonin syndrome sounds scary.

Meth if used properly can make you productive as fuck.

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I miss drugs.

I got a gf and now i dont go out anymore, i would kill for a line right now.

>>39319965
>>39320073

ghb, all the good parts of alcohol, none of the bad (except liquid ghb tastes like whale cum)

>>39315786
Sw33t urbandic skillz dude