Is there any good reason not to take steroids?

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>>39296321
This is what he looked like natty

>>39296321
as long as you're natty you have an excuse as to why other people are bigger than you

Get those Heart Gains, boy

>Illegal
>Potential infertility (your balls might not work after cycling off for the 100th time)
>No health benefits unless your testosterone is already low
So why should I roid anyway? What are the pros?

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>>39296321
>>39296338
What are his chances of getting this girl without roiding?

>>39296367
0 since she roids too.

>>39296393
She's not even big though

>>39296338

Look at his fucking genetics

>>39296621
Please go. She's probably on var and defiantly on grown hormone

>expensive
>dangerous
>No need to even get that big if you just want to pull bitches
Not to mention the ethics of being a cheater. Don't know why fags get so hung up on the cheater thing though.

>>39296338
shit look like that, I assumed it was because I keep skipping chest day.

>>39296701
>>expensive
cheaper than whey

>>dangerous
if you're an imbecile. if you're not it's no more dangerous than getting drunk.

>>No need to even get that big if you just want to pull bitches
true.

>Not to mention the ethics of being a cheater.
Cheating at what exactly?

>>39296321
realistically....if you abuse it, you might get a heart attack or some other disease and die.

you probably will have to get on testostorone for the rest of your life because your balls will shrink

>>39296321
no, if you can afford a Hollywood level PT that can hook u up with good shit and make sure that you don't fuck your shit up, its beneficial to physical appearance and maybe even health

apart from biological reasons:
it's illegal (not really risky unless you make a living through fitness, in which case you'd know this already)

you're gonna have to lie to people (only if you want to minimize risk. You don't have to do this if you don't give a fuck)

>>39296321
>gets born with perfect genetics
>pisses them into a taco nigger
He may as well have never been born

>>39296728
>you probably will have to get on testostorone for the rest of your life because your balls will shrink
Literally never been a case of permanent shrinkage. Doctors know it will come back, it just depends how long you are prepared to wait........and most people want trt anyway

>>39296321
hiow come every guy that goes on gear develops sick wide as fuck and strong jaw line

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Someone link the rich piana gif

Normal sized balls and no man tits.

>>39296321
there are pros and cons what a stupid fucking question ofcourse there are good reasons

>>39296321
Dangerous, illegal, bad for your health.

honeslty I could understand doing it if it was legal and pharmagrade but ordering these drugs off the internet from some random guy seems quite sketchy long-term.

>>39298040
it's almost as if a manly jaw is a symptom of high test

>>39296321
Hormone system is fickle enough as it is.

>>39298110
guess I have high t then, also mewing might have helped defining it more

but what I meant was theyre already adults and then roid and it looks like that shit grows, is it HGH?

>>39296621
For you

>>39296724
>cheaper than whey

Only if you run like a cruise dose of testosterone.

But that doesn't include all the regular blood work you'll need to get, ancillaries, viagra and cialis, etc.

>if you're an imbecile. if you're not it's no more dangerous than getting drunk.

Are you a retard?

You're injecting yourself with powder from china that was brewed into roids by some random guy in likely unsanitary conditions. sources only add too much benzyl benzonate and shit which is toxic and injecting multiple mLs into yourself when you don't know how it was made seems kind of harmful eventually.

There's also numerous harmful long-term health effects many of which aren't even fully known which is concerning to say the least.

>>39298040
more testosterone means more secondary sex characteristics. Also why most dudes on gear develop badly receding hairlines

>>39296639
>She's probably on var and defiantly on grown hormone
>defiantly
>grown

Yeah, you would know, Professor.

>>39298110
>it's almost as if a manly jaw is a symptom of high test

Once your bone structure is formed it doesn't matter how much testosterone you have.

>>39298040
>hiow come every guy that goes on gear develops sick wide as fuck and strong jaw line

correlation and probably because they're lean and thus have a much more cut jawline

>>39298181
I know from annecdotal experience that people that hop on gear get bigger jaws, they hopped on mid twenties, nothing else but the jaw/parts of head grew.

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>>39296701
>expensive

>>39298205
gynecomastia surgey is pretty expensive in most parts of the world

i've got gyno and finally getting my surgery so fuck that shit.

there's too much risk only to get it again if my body reacts or if i do a cycle incorrectly.
nature's fucked with me more than enough, i know theres another way to drop to a single digit BF%

>>39298202
Could be a result of getting leaner after hopping on juice.

Powerlifters like Chris Duffin, Yury Belkin, Stan Efferding and Mark Bell (lmao) definitely have enormously high test levels from all the juice, but no Zyzz jaws.

Because I don't care about getting ridiculously big out of natty range and roiding just to look like a natty seems retarded.

>>39298287
Gaining size is a side effect. I enjoy the confidence and sex drive mostly. Only run 250mg e7d of enan. All mine is clean, get it directly from the brewer who shows purity testing.

>>39298324
How much does that run you? Cycling or just cruising fo life?

>>39298324
My confidence and sex drive is already high as it is.

>>39298366
Run me cost wise? Only 60 a vial of 250mg. Pretty much anything I would want is between 60 and 90 a vial. Gonna cruise until next year run a strong pct in spring and wife and I are going to have another kid.

>>39298370
Completely different, you get superman mode. You want to crush everything weights, pussy, your enemies lol. Not angry at least not on test but you definitely are full alpha.

>>39298382
Fug 10ml vial? Thats definitely better than protein powder. Any recommendations on where to start researching? Dont wanna fuck shit up if i start

>>39298392
What if I'm already that?

How much further can it possibly go. I don't want to inject drugs brewed by some criminal who bought it from china dude

>>39298424
Researching on a cycle? Or to find a supplier?

>>39298445
I'm with you man, I swore it off years ago but I literally know the brewer and have seen the test results on mine. Purity is fantastic basically pharma. So I grabbed some.

>>39298454
both

>>39298467
well if I had that then I would.

I'd probably get on TRT at 25+ if i had low test but beyond that I don't find it necessary.

>>39296724
>if you're an imbecile. if you're not it's no more dangerous than getting drunk.

love what roidheads say to themselves to justify juicing. this is blatantly not true of course,

no matter how "correctly" you cycle, things like: cholesterol, baldness, danger of liver cysts, prostate enlargement etc are always a danger. also, after your 10th cycle you can say goodbye to your sperm count and natty t levels

there is literally 0 reason to roid unless you're an athlete

>>39298454
Both would be much appreciated

>>39298483
No problem brah add Dylan Gemelli on YouTube. His videos are fantastic for any sarm and steroid information.

Forums.steroid is a good place to get to know the industry and brands.

As far as cycle depends on what you're wanting.

>>39298494
Right because thats why the give it to 40 year olds with other health risks already. Running a try or moderately higher dose is minimal risk. They give steroids to aids patients to help with muscle waisting. You know cause it kills you.

>>39298541
>Right because thats why the give it to 40 year olds with other health risks already

They give a low dose of pharmagrade test to get them to high natural levels you fucking faggot.

They don't fucking take dianabol in large doses and inject trenbolone and take female breast cancer medication to keep it all under control you dumb fuck

>They give steroids to aids patients to help with muscle waisting. You know cause it kills you.

Not at dosages to build muscle. how dumb are you

>>39298541
That's because it outweighs the fucking risks you retard

You don't have aids or some sort of other serious disease. You fucking imbecile. Why do roiders always use this retarded logical fallacies and circular logic to justify their lifechoices?

>>39298562
I'm not dumb at all I said moderate dosage. Youre telling 150mg of cyp once a week is safe but 250 of cyp once a week is littered with health risks? Also the medication for recovery is simply to make it quicker and keep your levels balanced. Your body is constantly trying to get back to homeostasis.

As for aids
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/410375_13
This article shows that higher doses of var and test are highly effective for HIV patients and most definitely would be enough to build muscle.

>>39298636
Because saying something is good for a sick person but bad for a healthy person makes absolutely no sense. I'm not arguing with the dangers of high steroid usage. Again I said moderate.

>>39298669
>Because saying something is good for a sick person but bad for a healthy person makes absolutely no sense.

Are you a fucking imbecile?

HOW DOES IT NOT MAKE SENSE.

It's like taking medication for a condition you don't have. For example taking accutane when you don't have acne, or take high blood pressure medication when you don't have high blood pressure.

It's harmful and risky and has many side effects.

>>39298650
>This article shows that higher doses of var and test are highly effective for HIV patients and most definitely would be enough to build muscle.

YOU DON'T HAVE HIV

Your body is normal and you can build muscle normally. holy shit dude are you legit retarded

>>39298650

But these people already have HIV//Aids... their lives literally can't get much worse

What's ur excuse???

>Hurrdurr I just want to get "the most" out of my training

yeah all /frauds/ are ppl who are unwilling to put in the work and time... or simply have mental disorder so they NEED to be bigger than every1else

there is no excuse faggot

>>39296321
1.I dont want to get any heavier than I am right now. Im a distance runner/swimmer, and im already by far the biggest athlete in those sports I know of.
2.Im in a selection program for specialized operations, not gonna risk getting caught.
3.I dont really need to be super big or strong, I already bench 3 plates and look pretty damn aesthetic, and its really about the journey in the end. I like the slow climb to the top, really gives you something to do.
That said, if anybody lifts just for the sake of getting big and looking good, there is no reason NOT to do steroids. They obviously work, have little to no sides of cycled properly, and apparently make you feel fucking great. When I retire, im going roid till I die, no question.

>>39298697
Accutane has the same side effects acne or not bro lol. They don't get worse when you don't have zits. Yet I'm a retard?

>>39296321
I take pride in my work, if that means Im skinny right now so be it, I don't want to attribute every inch of progress to a needle I stuck in my butt.

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Roids cause acne, roidrage, testicle shrinking, liver failure and baldness. Why would I roid for that?

>>39298712
>Accutane has the same side effects acne or not bro lol. They don't get worse when you don't have zits. Yet I'm a retard?

Yes you fucking dumbass

But Im saying that taking on all those health risks that accutane carries when you don't have the condition is imbecilic.

I have 850ng/dl testosterone.

If I start running a cruise dose I'll get slightly above that...

For what purpose? To build muscle marginally faster? Wow cool but now I have testicular shrinkage, increased prostate cancer risk, my own testosterone production shutdown and a bunch of other shit.

What's the fucking point???

>>39298720
All of these are completely legitimate concerns and I agree in cases of abuse.

>>39296321
most guys I see in the gym either cant afford to keep it up or just go off it for health reasons and they all look like shit hen they come off, so having to keep shoving that shit up your ass to maintain that physique doesnt appeal to me

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>>39298715
Assuming you live in the first world
Assuming you have access to as much food as you want
You make better gains than people that do not have access to plentiful amounts of good food and gym time, right?
So, you can attribute any success you make to certain things you have that others dont. Therefore, you should stave yourself and only do calisthenics.
But thats retarded, innit?
In the end, it does not matter WHY you got where you are, all that matters is where you are in the end.
And yes, training natty builds character, but you shouldent roid until youve trained a good few years anyway.
So, if you just train to look good and get strong, lift a few years then,
ENJOY THE MENT(ylnortestosterone)

>>39296724
Help me based roid anon. How long should I wait before doing roids? I hit puberty a bit later than most and I am 19 now. 25?

>>39298749
There's a pretty big difference between messing with your hormones and having access to food and a gym.

Why don't you roid shills just fuck off?

Can you just roid and shut up about it?

>>39298734
No man I didn't say you or anyone else should and in fact underground labs are extremely dangerous. I didn't ever say anyone should jump on a cycle cause it's the best. I havent done anything in years. I have a low sex drive and I suffer from anxiety. Both of these are corrected when I'm on a low dose of test. I also know where my test is coming from.

If I thought it was safe I'd be doing more than I am obviously.

>>39298766

T b h by the time you're mid 20s you won't want to roid.

Roiding is mostly for teenagers/early 20s with body image issues.

>>39298784
You kept using the argument that "Since people with a serious immunodeficiency condition use anabolic steroids, therefore it is pretty safe and good"

>>39298773
I dont actually use steroids
Im just pointing out the problem with your logic.
Do you take a multivitamin? That effects your hormones. Do you eat red meat? Do you do heavy lifts? All of that effects your hormones.

>>39298798
It is not as dangerous as presented to people when used short term in moderation with proper support. Most steroid users who do it correctly will not had long term negative effects, just like most accutane users won't commit suicide or have insane mood swings.

My point on stating that is that there is medical evidence that steroids are useful to improve multiple different areas of the body.

Should someone take 1g of test and 800mg tren for 6 months. No, that would be the guy with an enlarged ventricle and prostate issues , especially if he's over 40

>>39298798
We simply don't have any statistical data supporting the broad strokes painted by the government on steroids.

>>39298834
>My point on stating that is that there is medical evidence that steroids are useful to improve multiple different areas of the body.

Who on earth denied that?

Yes testosterone replacement therapy is useful when you have low testosterone. It's medicine just like anything else.

Using it to build unnatural amounts of muscle is irresponsible and dangerous.

>>39298860

> What medical evidence exists warns of potential harm, but doesn't support your argument, therefore we must redefine what evidence is and who is qualified to provide it (i.e. not government or medical bodies).

This is some strong work.

>>39298874
I completely understand your view point. Just as SARMs need more clinic research as do steroids. I don't jump on the cancer bandwagon because the evidence isn't clearly there. Negatives yes.

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>>39298512
Thanks brah

>>39296701
cheating? what are you a fucking child? kill yourself lmao.

>>39298877
I don't know your point they found some evidence that steroids use between your early 20s to your late 30s may cause some prostate growth. However it is much more dangerous in men over 40 when their prostate begins to grow again. This is not prostate cancer causation.

>>39298892
Medicine is a cost-benefit.

Chemotherapy is extremely harmful to people, but we use it because it's better than the alternative.

Wanting to build muscle for cosmetic reasons to impress gay men (women don't care about your rear delts or your striated glutes) is harmful and should not be supported.

>>39298907

It's not directed at a specific point, it's directed at your dismissal of the medical community & their opinion because they didn't watch "bigger, stronger, faster.

>>39298951
I don't dismiss it all. High dose and long term steroid usage is dangerous. I also have never done or recommended anything other than test.

>>39298803
Oh fuck you are stupid.

>>39298221
Look if you're too retarded to study the endocrine system well enough before injecting then that's your issue. For everyone else gynecomastia is a never occurrence. It only happens to total fucking retards. Even spending a few hours on fit will show you what you need to do to avoid it.

>>39296321

bitch tits, shrinking balls, going bald

>>39298792
I want to kill myself when I look at my spooky skeleton body. I don't think that'll change

>>39296639
>defiantly
She really didn't want to take the Growth Hormone, but in her defiance she decided to do it.

>>39296338
How old is he here?

>>39299114
Actually it's tremendously common given how easily the ai or pct drugs can be bunk and indian pharma can be fake or underdosed.

>>39299292

Speaking as someone who has been training for almost 10 years, and trained with groups of people for that time, yeah you will grow out of it.

90% of the guys I started with at 17 had the same mentality.

> We'll roid mid 20s bro cos test is declining gotta stay huge brah.

We trained hard till like 23, sometimes twice a day, and everybody got strong and swole as fuck.

Now we're all about 25 and most guys train at max 3 times a week, too busy working, educating, relationshiping. We still train because we enjoy it, but its no longer about numbers, more so about longevity and feeling good.

I've also seen this in the younger generations who look up to the "older" guys going hard and bein strong and try to tag along. Same exact path.

> FUARK GOTTA GET STRONG, EAT BIG GET BIG WOOOO.

Couple years later.

> I try to make it in at least 2 times a week between work and university.

Dust in the wind, bro.

>>39299388
I dont to roid for that reason. I want to roid because Im permanently fucking auswitz mode and won't be comfortable until I gain about 60 pounds. Don't really care how much I can lift as long as I'm functionally strong enough to do the things I want (somewhere around 1/2/3/4)

>>39296352
15kgs in 3 months

>>39299369
Did you test your e2? It costs $50. Guess not. Like I said easy to avoid if you're not retarded.

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>>39298720
>They also cause victories, women, gains, and higher social privilege beyond comprehension.
The only common reasons to not roid are:
>Fearful of health
>Not knowing how
>Not sure where to get
>Lazy
>Family disaproval
>Complacent with being a normie
Every top athlete and actor roids. Every chad roids. Anyone who wants to be something more than the class he was born into roids.

>>39296321
>has a 10/10 body
>still can't even get a white girl

LEL
E
L

>>39299472
Just eat more you pussy wtf do u need roids for god damn what a pussy

>>39299524
dude that shit has side effects too.

I dont want to fucking take 300 blood tests a month and take a drug to counteract the effects of one drug and then one to counteract the effects of THAT drug, and then so on and so on.

Why don't you understand I don't fucking care so much about muscle? I don't give a shit, i dont need to be jacked. I dont need to compensate for anything. I don't care

Lifting is a secondary thing for me, if i can't lift i dont fucking care.

Honestly man at one point I was super into lifting and likely would've used roids if I had the opportunity to do so. But I've grown up, it's just not a big deal for me and I dont want to partake in illegal activities to take sketchy drugs to build muscle.

>>39296701
If it's just for your own enjoyment, there's no competition to be cheating in, lad.

>>39297891
She's half viet cong you fuckin moron

>>39299570
>>They also cause victories, women, gains, and higher social privilege beyond comprehension.

>He actually belives this

What victories? Injecting your ass several times a week?

>Women
Women for the most part don't give a shit about you being oversized. Within natty limit with low bodyfat is more than enough.

>higher social privilege

Lol... Yeah that's totally why all the roiders are high up in society with successful careers ... oh wait. They're oversized gym rats working menial jobs trying to compensate for being inferior

>>39298173
This (the second part anyway). There's some interesting research on just how unreliable and often contaminated these chemicals are. Of course, that matters far less if you're using them orally, but oral use carries additional risk of liver problems and is less effective.

First cycle, androl, teen and test suspension AMA

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>>39296338
>mfw this is my goal body
Too bad I'll probably never excercise a day in my life hahaha

>>39299649
>There's some interesting research on just how unreliable and often contaminated these chemicals are.

Look up some of the busted labs and the conditions they're in...

Keep in mind the people brewing your drugs are only after profit and don't really have any background in chemistry or pharmacology or industry safety standards.

Most of them literally believe if you just pour in enough BB/BA you somehow disinfect everything.

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/1hsxzs/potential_warning_why_many_ug_lab_products_are/

Human spec gear only uses 2-3% BA....and very few human spec drugs use any BB (benzyl benzoate) at all....only a couple and while one or two might contain 20% BB, they do so ONLY because they are not intended to be used at the kind of dosages we bodybuilders use. The FDA only approves drugs containing up to 20% BB if they are only gonna be used at approx 1ml every 7-14 days at most. Not the 3-10mls per week many of us bodybuilders will use of these products.
BB is used to kill scabies. It's toxic as fuck in high levels. It's not something you want to keep putting into your body on a regular basis.
Do a search on the toxicity of BB. You wont like what you find.

>>39299607
BECAUSE I ALREADY EAT 3500 CALORIES A DAY AND AT LEAST 100G OF BOTH FAT AND PROTIEN AND DRINK A COUPLE LITRES OF MILK I CAN'T EAT ANYMORE REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>39299719
If you can't gain weight as a natty you won't gain it roiding. If anything you'll need to eat more

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>>39296321
Surprised this thread is still going. Dumping some more pics of Chad & Stacy

>>39296701
cheating?
is this what normies unironically believe?

you've never been close friends with elite level athletes have you

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>>39299631
Oh,sorry,that's much better.

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>>39299781
that shower door is sweet

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>>39299784
>2/10, elbows too pointy

>>39299799
Wouldn't kick her out of bed.

Might let her give me head.

>>39299726
How do I eat more. I try but I just feel sick and then I can't get any exercise. Trying to eat more than 3500 ish makes me feel like i had Thanksgiving dinner for every meal of the day.

Hey does some fat person wanna switch me appetites? If I could eat like 6000 calories a day or more of be fuckin set

>>39299831
Thank you hungry skeleton

>>39299570
Which golds is this? looks like mine

>>39299570
>Every top athlete and actor roids

Yeah but we're not actors or athletes.

The reason they roid is because they make money off of their body.

>>39299799
Pretty
Nice body
Great curves

Too low bodyfat so she might be bugfuck cray, But the low amounts of gear might make her horny so I would conceivably be able to fuck her as hard as I want and as long as I want and keep her sane for a few hours at a time.

But she might be a cuntlet so...that would make shit tough.

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>>39298712
Does my skin look like it has lots of acne scars? I took it years ago when I'm 17

>>39299570
>>39299864
Roiding just to be a big gymrat wouldn't be worth it to me.

i think that we should all wait for Zyzz-senpai's input.

So, could somebody get away with doing roids for lets say, 1 or 2 cycles, avoid most of the harmful side effects, grow some size and strenght, and then quit it forever, and keep at least some of the gains?

I wont lie, I want to take shortcuts, Ive been lifting very dedicated for a year, also eating well, but Im just progressing so slow. I think I might have low test or shit genetics. Just wondering if one could use roids for a short period of time and come out unharmed and at least a bit bigger and stronger

>>39299619
You know what you're right. You shouldn't do steroids. There is so much incorrect info in your comment but I'm not gonna correct any of it because you should never, ever do steroids. You aren't smart enough.

>>39300010
Don't worry i dont plan on it

I don't care that much about getting a lot of muscle. My natty limit is enough for me

>>39299879
Looks extremely minor, especially considering that you're trying to cast shadows.

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>>39299966
I'm 19 and been lifting for a year and 2 months. Just shot my first dose of test today. I'm going on a 12 week cycle and calling it quits on the test. We'll see how it goes.

>>39300037
Notice how in the first pic you are standing nice and close to a QT.
Second one? Some dudes arm.

Is it really worth it?

>>39300037

Thats what Im considering. Im just wondering if its worth it. If you lose all your gains when you quit like some people claim. Theres no point

>>39300064
No this guy I know said you lose water weight and that's it. He told me like 15-20 lbs on it. Believe me, I thought the same thing.

>>39300063
Still get pussy that's just my friend

>>39296321
>>39296367
How do these instagram "fitness models" have abs as well as C+ cup tits?

>>39300098
Because they're fake ya dunce

>>39299591

Maybe this girl has good sex? Or maybe this girl has more money?

All in all, the girl is hot, probably totally supports his lifestyle, and she's not even that dark lmao

As a white guy I think I can say that white girls aren't the only fish in the sea of hot girls

>>39298494
>prostate enlargement
this is a problem how?

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>>39300098
Breast implants senpai

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>>39298494
>after your 10th cycle

Thats why I've only been on one cycle, but never came off. lewl.

>>39300112
>>39300133
I thought so, but they looked decent. Saline injections?

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>>39299591
>absolutely disgusting

>>39296701
cheating against what exactly? cheating because I did my research and Im willing to take a low risk vs high reward? retard

>>39300152
Because she has good taste and went for a size that actually matches her frame

>>39299879
on the forehead? no.

anything else whe cant see.

still face is looking good kid.

literally factually unironically injecting foreign hormones into your body to get more muscle mass because you feel the need to compare to professional gay for pay models on stage

There is no reason if you are a characterless meathead. But why would you roid if you are not?

>>39299791
wtf? are his fingers/hands tiny or is it this photo

>>39300299
Hands didn't respond to roids so well.

>>39300037
please take pics every 3 days. would love to see how magical roids really is. thanks, brah.

>>39300208
Thanks. Self esteem used to be in the gutter even after my acne cleared up idk why

>>39298987
He's right though. Working out in a gym is pretty unnatural. People in the past who gained their muscles from hard labor would probably think we're phonies who didn't gain muscles the real proper way.

There's nothing inherently natural or morally better in things people do. It just is. There are guys with less myostatic inhibitors in their bodies that let them put on lot of muscles super quickly. That doesn't mean they're better people.

>>39296701
>cheating
It literally lets you work harder

>>39298562
If you can't even be bothered to google this shit before posting your autistic rant I won't bother to tell you which parts are wrong. I hate these pseudoscience yahoo chain mail tier posts. Like where do faggots get off posting this shit like they care when they can't be bothered to even understand what the different classes of meds do. They won't read a single paragraph of an endocrine text but will spend 4 hours spamming retard misinformation on fit. Smdh

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>>39300365
>acne mostly gone
>still have hyperpigmentation where it was bad on my upper cheeks
>tfw
I want off this damn ride.

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>>39300420
You can still see some of mine if you look closely I feel like the filter black and white makes it stand out more. It's whatever at least my face isn't pizza anymore.

>>39300378
Working out in a gym and lifting weights to improve strength has been a normal thing for men to do since ancient times you retard

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium_(ancient_Greece)

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>>39296321
why do you always see jacked guys with women with average sized breasts. why even bother to lift?

>>39300378
>He's right though. Working out in a gym is pretty unnatural. People in the past who gained their muscles from hard labor would probably think we're phonies who didn't gain muscles the real proper way.
>There's nothing inherently natural or morally better in things people do. It just is. There are guys with less myostatic inhibitors in their bodies that let them put on lot of muscles super quickly. That doesn't mean they're better people.

Dude you know what was meant by him.

>>39298124
Facial bones, wrists, and feet IIRC can keep growing indefinitely, they don't grow from plates that fuse at a later age

>>39298512
Lel

>>39300460
Faggot

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>>39300818
you call me a faggot, yet you're the one who prefers women who look like men :^)

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>>39299799
That fucking pose on the left is too silly.

>>39296321
Why would I roid?

I'm not insecure :^)

>>39300132
You ever take a piss that doesn't feel like you quite got everything out? Now imagine that you get the feeling every time you do it. Say goodbye to restful sleep as you're forced to wake up multiple times a night to dribble out a couple drops of piss followed by the feeling that you still need to go. Say goodbye to doing anything that requires you to not have immediate access to a bathroom because your enlarged prostate has caused you to suffer from urgency and incontinence.
Also rapid growth, even benign growth, predisposes you to developing cancer in the one of the most cancer prone organs. And when you get your first prostate exam at 40, enjoy going to tons of irritating cancer tests.

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>>39302042
It kind of makes me think of Liefeld comics

>>39302297
Jesus man

How do I make sure I don't have prostate cancer???

>>39302373
Talk to your physician. The typical rule out methods are a joint Rectal Exam and blood test for a Prostate cancer specific antigen.

>>39300452
American education.

>>39302373
Ejaculating regularly, by either fucking or fapping
> http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/844820

>>39302393
I'm scared now.

I was considering roiding I bought a cycle. Should I throw it out? It's a waste of money but honestly I've read a lot about "when steroids go wrong" and kind of changed my mind since...

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>>39296701
>Not to mention the ethics

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>>39298142
every fucking time

>>39298176
Leave me alone. I am raelly a prefossor

>>39298040
Because the masseter is a muscle and it hypertrophies over time like every other muscle when you're frauding.

>>39300675
>Facial bones
>wrists
So roiding can cure my two biggest disadventages?

Why am i not roiding yet?

>>39299570

>not knowing how
>not sure where to get
>lazy

these are probably the 3 biggest reasons I don't

If there was some roid guru that came to my house and told me errything I needed to know about roids (safe amount to take to put on some muscle) and then supplied them to me I would probably do it.

I spent like 1 day googling information and it was too much of a fucking hassel

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>>39300356
You aren't going to notice the results within days, onlycthing you'll right off the bat is the strength, sex drive, and clearer skin. It's not until week 4-5 where it feels like ur growing every fucking hour. That's why people kick start test cycles with dbol or Anavar to give me an extra push. But I'm in my 5th week and god damn I need new clothes my size L is so tight around my arms n chest and annoying in my arm pits but got damn I look joocy.

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>>39299114
I got gyno naturally in my teens, from what I know it's from the boost in testosteron during this time. The excess test gets converted into estrogen, the amount varies per person, its genetic.

I agree that if you do your homework that you can nullify or minimize the estrogenic side-effects.

>>39296321
He looks ridiculous lol

>>39300378
>He's right though. Working out in a gym is pretty unnatural. People in the past who gained their muscles from hard labor would probably think we're phonies who didn't gain muscles the real proper way.

This is 100% bullshit. There are historical records of ancient Greeks and Chinese using gyms and weights to train their strength.

>>39303753
That's called pubertal gyno, and it happens to more guys than you think. But anyway if you take an AI, monitor your bloods, and keep watch for e2 symptoms there is a zero percent chance of you getting gyno from a cycle. Anyways even if you do, the pct drugs can eliminate recent onset gyno.


Stupid people shouldn't use steroids but if you bother to learn about it beforehand it isn't a gamble.

>>39299591
>still can't even get a white girl
He obviously could. He still made a poor choice imo.

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>>39296338
he said in a video thats how he looked BEFORE he started lifting
he had never lifted a weight in that picture
the guy has top 1% genetics

I want to roid soon since my hair is falling out faster than a cancer victim getting chemo, but yeah, there are plenty of valid reasons not to roid.

>expensive

This is especially true for a proper first cycle because you won't have leftovers. Between a 14 week just test cycle, the test, AI, PCT, and ancillaries would cost me 410. That's That's a lot of money up front and isn't factoring in new clothes, blood tests, more food, or more time in the gym assnnd doing cardio and stretching to grow safely.

>it's illegal

>it's a pain in the ass to research, conduct, and plan a good cycle

>needles are spooky

>>39305430
>Actually believing a roider

>>39298734
>If I start running a cruise dose I'll get slightly above that...
you never cycled did you? i cruized on 50mg of test 4 times a week for 6 months and gained 5kg of lean mass, ifs not slightly above, its a fucking lot more, without drinking a fuckload of massgainer smoothie, i also felt a lot better and happier, roids are good as fuck if you aren't a retarded that blasts 1g every week

>>39302438
It's really not worth it unless you're a professional athlete that's making money off of using them.

>>39303677
>steroids
>clearer skin
wat

>>39296321
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>>39299791
Not homosexual but for some reason I feel really pissed off and jealous of her that she has a sexy chad bf like Calum

>>39300414
Thank you. I got flamed in /frauds/ for pointing out similar problems a couple weeks ago. It's amazing how loud some people are when they don't understand basic endocrinology or pharmacology.

>>39299591
Skinnyfat tyrone can it's not much of an achievement