Anyone here take medication for their mental problems? If so

>>39287416
None, lifting is better for you and those medications are pushed too hard by (((them))) for me to ever try them again.

>>39287416
I did but stopped and looked for other ways to be happy bc i wasn't able to cum and I wasn't interested in taking them my entire life

Psychiatry is a pseudoscience.

Those drugs are not proven to treat any biological disease, the chemical imbalance hypothesis is completely unproven.

The drugs are given to alter people's minds, they're harmful, and almost all of them (including wellbutrin) cause physical addiction and withdrawal upon stopping.

Have you ever had a physical test to prove whether or not you "have" whatever label they told you that you do? No? Because one doesn't exist.

I spent my time writing this because I don't want to see another person make a huge mistake by taking these drugs.

Who is this semen demon?

"Mental problems" such as anxiety and depression are a biological warning symptom that something in your life is wrong.

You cannot treat these problems with a pill. The underlying cause must be identified and solved in order to have strong mental health.

If you've got problems, you need to solve them.

It's the same as losing weight; there is no pill for that either.

This is a fitness board on an anime forum. Nobody here is a doctor.

>>39288120
>>39288148
>>39287580
Not OP. I have PTSD. You cannot "man up" from it. A six month run of anti-depressants combined with CBT can genuinely help.

>>39287416
I mean if you need them, they work if you're on the right ones.
Taken cymbalta for 2 years now for depression/anxiety/PTSD. I find I have far more energy/motivation now than I did before, so no lost gains here. Besides the month they usually take to start working, there is an adjustment period of a couple months where things feel different. Most people don't take their meds properly/are impatient so they stop and blame big pharma.
While some people who take meds might not need them the "meds do nothing" argument is broscience. Some people actually have something physically up.

>>39287416
>Anyone here take medication for their mental problems? If so why do you take them?
sertraline 100mg. because i tend toward hatred and rumination too easily without it, and it's a cheap generic.
>Just got prescribed wellbutrine a few hours ago. Are my gains completely fucked?
no. wellbutrin is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor. you will have slightly more energy, might have a few sleep side effects, but does not affect your body majorly otherwise. check out the rx pamphlet on side effects if you're worried.
>>39287580
true
>>39287602
>I did but stopped and looked for other ways to be happy
good
>>39288120
horseshit
>>39288127
google image search
>>39288148
true

psychiatric medicine isn't meant to be a cure-all. they're supposed to dull your emotional pain enough for you to become productive enough to fix yourself, practically and in mindset. making it means mental strength as well. i'm trying /fit/...

>>39288184
You can barely find her shit by Google reverse search you faggot. I know you saved that pic from that other thread last week.

I'm somewhere on the dopamine irregularity spectrum, (bipolar to schizophrenic type effects) and have been medicated variously for the a decade or so, to varying success.

It's hard to attribute things to the medication or my lifestyle at the time, but safe to say nothing "fixed my illnesses".

For the past 3 years I don't take pharmaceutical drugs, I don't take narcotics, but I do smoke a shit ton of pot, like an ounce a week.

Not sure what my point was. Oh yeah. The pharma drugs don't work, they just make you worse.

>ESPECIALLY BENZOS.

>psychiatric medicine isn't meant to be a cure-all. they're supposed to dull your emotional pain enough for you to become productive enough to fix yourself, practically and in mindset.

/thread

>>39288148
Well yes and no. Its really all about what state your brain is in. Schizophrenia for example, is rooted in the miss wiring/damage of dopa-mine neurotransmitters in the brain, some people develop this naturally and have no control over it, good life style or not.

>>39288201
>but I do smoke a shit ton of pot
feeling good for doing nothing, what could possibly go wrong?
most heavy pot smokers I've met have serious rage issues, it's like they go off just so they can justify lighting up again

>>39288120
Go back to bed, Thomas Szasz

>>39287416
OLANZAPINE
>OLANZAPINE
OLANZAPINE
>OLANZAPINE

nothing but the echoes of my mind
come and see the real thing come and see the real thing
where are your feathers?
where are your feathers?
why can't you fly?
why can't you fly?
there's a fine line between pleasure and pain
i will rocko you like a hurrimacane
YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO LICK MY FEET

OLANZAPINE

help me

>>39289969
are you bored or actually a nut

>>39290032
psychosis is a mistress
it heats the chicken wings
THERE ARE NO LADYBUGS ONLY LADYBIRDS
are there different colors
or different eyes
SANTOS YOU HAVE AN OLD PLANE
BUT YOU HAVE AN OLD PLANE
where o where hast my train of thought gone
there are no exits only walls
hell is a place in the mind

help me

>>39288163
bullshit pussy
men back in the day used to murder on the daily in war (WW1 WW2) and they just manned up and moved on with life

stop being so self obsessed and feeling sorry for yourself

fucking move on in life

t. ex-"ptsd" sufferer who just decided to get over it

>>39290206
is it hard to speak/think "normally"? did you work out today?

>>39290226
i hit the big bag in the gym
i sat with the heaviness on my mind and back
i pulled myself up and got dragged back down again
my insides hurt
i will be well again through iron or blood
FORGIVE THEM AS YOU FORGIVE YOURSELF
i manage okay but im not a manager
im always out of work

>>39290234
>boxing
>squats
>pull ups
>suicide or training?
>guilt?
>consistent training?

Sounds like he just struggles to translate thoughts into words.

>>39290245
but we both speak english
but i ve never been to england
but i try and i try
because i think i can i think i can
and thinking is doing
if the gap is small enough
AM I ALONE?
WHERE ARE THE OTHERS?
the pills dont help they make it worse
shaped like smarties they make you dumb
ive never been better than being off them
talking better if i focus focus focus focus
like in the jumbaliah in the jumbaliah
i focus and it makes the words better
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME NOW?
THE CLEARER I SPEAK
i will be better
eventually or bust

>>39290260
IT'S ME AGAIN.
I WILL MAKE THIS MESSAGE CLEARLY.
I AM OKAY BUT THE THOUGHTS WRITE IN BETWEEN THE SPACES SOMETIMES.
I TRY TO STOP THEM AND IT WORKS WHEN I FOCUS MORE.
I AM FOCUSED NOW.
THE PILLS ARE HORRIBLE.
MAKE ME WORSEN.
MENTAL DISCIPLINE IS BEST.
GYMNASIUM DOES THAT FOR ME.
IT SPREADS LIKE HONEY TO OTHER PARTS OF MY MIND.
I WILL BE WELL SOON.
COPY, MAJOR TOM?
SORRY

>>39288127
this

>>39290222
>and they just manned up and moved on with life
Sure they did, compensating with alcohol and overt aggression.

>>39290279
maybe you could talk like a normal person on the internet? like, what'd you eat today man?

>>39287416
>wellbutrin is an NDRI
>norepinephrine actually activates adrenergic B2 receptors
>norepinephrine literally activates the same receptors clenbuterol activates
>the same receptors that increase the rate at which fat is loss
>the same receptors that decrease the rate at which muscle is loss
>>Am I gonna lose my gains?
OP, you're an ignorant faggot. Ask your doctor, idiot, if you're so worried.

>>39288120
You're a huge faggot and have no idea what you're talking about. I literally went to do an MRI scan before I found out about my ADHD and later re-confirmed it checking the phenethylamines levels in my urine. It's almost as if everything you wrote was a lie because psychiatry actually makes more sense than you.

>>39287416
I have depression and suffer from chronic pain.
My GP wanted to prescribe a bunch of medicine and I asked if there was any other way. I have been seeing a therapist and a physio therapist for the better half of this year and feel twice the person I was. I still have a way to go but I have improved.
Depending on your own situation different things work for different people. If I took the pills for all I know I could have felt 100% the next day and for the rest of my life, but I decided not to and had the funds and support to get where I am without pills.

TL;DR - different stokes for different folks, all these absolute statements people are throwing around are stupid and they should feel stupid for saying them.

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Nah, been on welbutrin and prozac for almost a year and I look better than I used to in this pic

If you lift, the gains will definitely come
If you eat like crap (like I did once in a while) you will look like crap but it's still easily fixable at least for me

>>39290222
:3 they didn't :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trmG0mgrkM8

>>39287416
I use to take zoloft but not for depression but because it would make me zippy and full of energy. Had a comfy, secretive drug addition several years ago but quit that ish. I used to mix the zoloft with:

>15mg oxycontin
>5mg xanax
>200mg caffein pill

would crush it up and parachute it down the hatch at lunch. Turned me into a nonstop working robot. Got promoted to warehouse manager during that time haha

>>39287416
U can buff hard on ssri's

>>39290335

It's a true mystery.

>>39290519
mirin that v
minus points for the zipper abs though

>>39288120

That isn't the case for everyone man. I take Citalopram for my depression and it has helped me start leading a normal life. I've been plagued by crushing depression since my childhood. I never understood how other people could act so happy and joyful all the time until I started taking it. Every time I stop taking it my life goes to complete shit and I'm flung back into bouts of suicidal depression. Starting taking that medication was one of the most important things I've ever done in my life.

>>39290352
t.pussy wallowing in self pity

>>39290222
t. Bait

>>39290465
That anon literally said
>Have you ever had a physical test to prove whether or not you "have" whatever label they told you that you do? No? Because one doesn't exist.

If your answer is "yes" and you know your illness has a diagnostic test, then there's no need to get so offended.

>>39290409
I am speaking normal now.
How lovely to converse.
What else would you like to know?

>>39290352
You just keep drinking the koolaid with a side of self pity, you pathetic excuse for a man.

>>39290720
who hurt u anon

>>39290678
Im not him. Just met people like those you talked about instead of getting information out of ass like you did. It sucks you judge people without knowing their background but whatever works for you on this anonymous anime imageboard.

>>39290720
>>39290752

>>39290720
t. Believes a man when he says "nah mate I'm alright" when asked about his mental state

does anyone know anything about brintellix?? Any experiences with it?

>>39290692
what's your official diagnosis? schizo? psychosis?

>>39287416
Those color contacts look shit

>>39287416
Who is this semen daemon? I've seen another pic of her before.

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Was totally okay up until I got bashed in the head almost 2 years ago in a motorcycle accident. Haven't felt right since, got bad enough I was going to kill myself but was stopped, put on medicine and felt better. It's not psuedoscience, it's a chemical imbalance caused by my brain being fucking broken

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>>39290222
Nice trips, checked

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=shell+shock+ptsd+in+history

>>39291655
checked

>>39287416

I take sertraline 50mg daily.

Psychoactive medication doesn't really have any effect on gains for the majority of time. If anything, it should help keep the motivation and energy (mentally) to keep going.

I don't know about wellbutrine, but sertraline works miracles for your circadian rhythm.
As soon as I started taking it, I started going to bed at 11PM-12AM and waking up at 7-8AM, it was amazing.
I also feel more concentrated and I'm able to work at something for more than one hour at a time, something I could never do before.

>>39288163
From fucking what, you faggot

Let's have ourselves a flash back right now.

>>39290777
trips of psychosis my brethren

>>39291782
this

>>39291655

Checked

>>39288120
True. Psychotropic drugs are a huge, hundred billion dollar scam. Only a very small percentage of people, like schizophrenic s need to be medicated.

>>39288163
>You cannot "man up" from it.

Well, maybe *you* can't

>>39288120
Psychiatric nurse here. Everything you wrote sounds like the words of a mentally ill person without medication... Keep trusting in god to fix you, you fucking flamingo.

>>39287416
20mg of lexapro a day keeps the demons away.

I also have a bottle of xanax if needed but that's if i'm just about to go postal which thankfully is rare.

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People saying that everyone with a mental illness just needs to "man up" and spontaneously get better on their own sounds exactly the same as those who say anyone poor is just lazy and needs to put in more effort into not being poor.

It just reveals an utmost ignorance of what they're talking about.
In a way it's useful because as soon as someone starts with "I don't believe in psychiatry" you can tell his every word can be completely disregarded as worthless.

>>39288148

Yes there is
Dnp

>>39292642

t. Special Snowflake

>>39289969
i'm on olanzipine right on. It gave me an endless appetite and made me fat.

>>39292642
actually most people saying that have dealt with mental illness in the past and either couldn't get medication or realized medication does fucking noting and is a jew ploy. they're mad and tell you to man up because u fucking should

>>39293224

I think that a more contributing factor is that the majority of the userbase lives in America, a country with doctors worse than a third world shithole and with a medication control that the whole world has been laughing at for decades.

America is a bizzarro place where people who don't need medication are forced to take it, and people who desperately need it are blackmailed away from it by their insurance.

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>>39292642
>>39293224
I was in mental ward, two times hospitalised because I cant even kill myself properly, also I was in prison. My cutting scars go from my ankle to my fucking cheeks. I also was in prison.

And I support the "man-up" meme. I know its hard, its more complicated than that - but the general idea is good. My personal work changed more than any pill (most of them just made me numb and zombie). Take pills if u want, but 99% of mentally ill people dont have really broken brains. Their software is broken.

I experience relapses from time to time but I went from a maniac with hallucinations to having a job and a girlfriend. You can win this fight if you take it up.

>>39293322

I always see the zombie effect described as a negative, but why doesn't anyone take it for what it is?

It lets you get back to 0 when you've lived in the negatives for years. Then, after you've managed to fix your surroundings, you can go off the meds.
Even if it's only the software being broken, as you put it, if it goes on long enough it breaks the hardware too.

People who've had depression for very long periods of time have measurable deficiencies in dopamine uptake, they literally can't be as happy as normal people. They need meds.

>>39293340
>>lets you get back to 0 when you've lived in the negatives for years. Then, after you've managed to fix your surroundings, you can go off the meds.
>manage to fix your surroundings

get a load of this guy. I know enough people that are on medication for years and somehow they still are sick.

>>39290222
>men back in the day used to murder on the daily in war (WW1 WW2) and they just manned up and moved on with life
https://youtu.be/S7Jll9_EiyA

>>39288163
You can. Shit's hard and takes time, but eventually you get out of it. I did, I know others who have as well, and I can guarantee you they had it worse than you did. Unless of course your father raped you and and your mother tried to drown you before killing herself, putting you on the foster home carousel all the way into adulthood.

You're just making excuses to avoid the challenge and discomfort of dealing with your problems. Psychological "illnesses" are essentially only categorizations of mental states. The only real problem you have is the way you think.

Voxra for 6 months so far, life has never been better.

Pills gave me extra kick to get everything back to rails.

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>>39287416
i take amphetamine to combat the mental health problem of not being on amphetamine all the time

>>39293843
After 6 years of depression, anxiety, panic disorder, self harming, drugs etc.

Also use ketiapine to sleep.

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>>39287416

Purblind wat u doin:(

Its Purblind, nearly blind cosplaygirl

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>>39293475

Explain the size difference between normies and depressed people's hippocampus.

>what is nsi 189

It regrows the hippocampus, restores it, potentially curing ptsd and depression.

>>39288120

There are biomarkers for almost every major personality disorder in the DSM are you retarded? Are literal retards making it up because you don't believe an extra chromosome is a valid physical test of psychological and developmental dysfunction?

>>39291655
fuck checked m8.

>Wellbutrin
No, enjoy the stimulant effects from it. Cutting will now be easier.

>>39288148
I've had depression since I was 9 years old and my life is awesome. There is no reason why my body would need a biological warning symptom to tell me that something is wrong with my life.

>It's the same as losing weight; there is no pill for that either.
there is

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My family is very religious. They don't know that I've been going to therapy at my uni. The doc over at my uni said I was depressed and he prescribed me meds.


Whenever I felt like I was in trouble my mom and dad would tell me to pray and that God will help me. I've been depressed for 6 years and I've smoked weed, drank booze, lift weights, and asked god to help me take the pain away, but none of that shit worked. I think pills might be my only option, but I don't want my parents to worry about me.

How should I tell them?

>>39287416
Currently, BACK ON klonopin ( a bandaid benzoid drug )
Im only back on it, because womanly problems on top of lead positions being assigned to me from work (im basically working 3 lead positions at 12.76 /hr pay, will get a bump this next week, but only a dollar. -lots of stress-) and taking it in hopes of getting back into my workout seessions, its been almost 5months now.. my mind wants to so badly but i just feel so overwhelmed right now. Thats it though, usually when you see a pshyc. they say get on a bandaid drug (benzo's aka xanax, klonopin, ect.) and put you on a SSRI.) i tried about 4 ssri's though and had semi bad - to bad bad reactions to all of them. So it may not be healthy to put using a band aid drug on the daily atm but its how im getting by. I don't recommend people doing this. Its going to be a hard time for me to get back out of it, but holidays are the hardest time of the year in my work place so yeah.
INB4 being called weak mentality.
Sometimes you just need help in life..
be it from a person or from a pharmaceuticaly approved controled drug

>>39293475
No it's not you absolute fucking retarded person. You're the fucking reason why mental health issues are so fucked. Depression, PTSD, and other mental issues are the result of the deterioration of your neurons. It's not something that you can just fucking grow out of.

Do people get depression, PTSD, and other mental diseases for bad reasons? Fuck yes. I had a friend commit suicide last year, who was by far one of the funniest, prettiest, and richest people I've ever met. She truly did not have much to be sad about, but that's not the reason why she committed suicide. She committed suicide because there was a diagnosable, real issue with the way her brain perceived things. Stop trying to project your twisted version of masculinity on everyone, and read a fucking book.

I was diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety disorder in highschool. Ever seen Sopranos? Where Tony has those freakouts and panic attacks for no reason? That was me.

It didn't help that I was the proverbial chad as well, and nobody knew how I really was. Good looks, healthy, confident, extroverted, etc etc. But on the inside, besides my projection of a funny and self assured guy, I was getting wierd feelings I couldn't control of not being able to breathe, of feeling out of control, of feeling like things were bigger then me and I couldn't control them and reality was falling apart and the world is hostile and oh the humanity. It sucked/sucks.

I still get those wierd feelings of anxiety, like an existential claustrophobia, can't be explained properly in words, but I refuse medication. I actually solved much of it with lifting, which is why I will always be thankful for this board.

I basically did things that a normal human being should do. I stopped over thinking things as much, starting working out, read 2 hours a day, stay off /pol/ lol which I would go on for hours at a time, and many other things.

I mean think about it, wonder why normies are so happy and carefree? Ignorance is bliss, I stopped ruminating on so many things and just did whatever I wanted to, while taking care of my mental and physical health. I have followed the election heavily but once it's over, I'm gonna drop politics as a whole. No need for extra variables and factors in my life to think about.

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>>39293322
my nigga.

>>39293969
since you seem educated, what antidepressant on the market has a somewhat similar effect?

>>39295449

None. Nsi 189 is unique. Its not something to combat symptoms, its a cure.

Stemcell based.

Its in the last phase of clinical trials and can be bought online.

It works, so dont expect It to be available for much longer.

>>39295510
holy shit, I can buy this stuff online NOW? Well I'll try to seek it out, thanks anon

These research chemicals are really interesting in how effective they are. Started taking MK-677 and it's kinda interesing how well it benefits your complexion.

>>39287416
psych student here
most likely you will not suffer any gains loss. this is quite a mild med and even given for bored housewives (aka Autumn syndrome)

I do agree with many of the claims that antidepressants are peddled too easily and in most cases a change of life style can do wonders without the medication
but

HOLY FUCKING SHIT THE AMOUNT OF IGNORANCE IN THIS THREAD

PTSD is an invention? WWI/II vets did not have PTSD? are you fucking kidding me? how do you people even come up with this crap

>>39295554
if you find share
all i could find is places to pre-order but none that will actually deliver

>>39295672
people dont seem to research before they post yet again researching to win an internet argument is time consuming

>>39295751
well I immediately see it on ebay, but I have to assume there are better places to buy that are less marked up.

>>39295853
i would never buy anything like that on ebay. it's like playing Russian rootlet

>>39295858
>Russian Rootlet

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>>39295900
kek i didn't even notice that

>>39290222
>t. edgy teenager who obviously never struggled with real mental illnesses but auto-diagnosed himself to get attention and pretend to be anything else than a boring overprotected middle-class white guy

>>39292614
Check you attitude. Maybe he is mentally ill and off medication, but being called a fucking flamingo is not going to help. You should like a shit nurse.

>>39295510
How do you dose this stuff? How many mg how often?

Does this look legit?
https://www.amazon.com/NSI-NSI-189-Powder-Research/dp/B01D32B14K

>>39290773
Got that from my neurologist, took it a few days but gave me acid reflux, then went to psychiatrist and he gave me sertex.

>>39295858
>rootlets
when will they learn

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I take Sertraline and Trazodone for my insomnia, it did wonders for me. I know its a pill jew but damn, my life got significantly better since I am able to get those 8 hours of continues sleep

>>39291655
kek'd

>>39288184
Fuck you. Image search sent me to some backwater cosplay board.
Quit being a dismissive little cunt.

>>39287416
Someone post her Snapchat

>>39296052
Are you triggered flamingo boy?

Temazepam for insomnia. I'm testing sonata now, but I want to go back because I miss not having an appetite and losing 3 lbs a week doing nothing.

>>39287416

I take Lexapro everyday and have a supply of Valium that I take as needed (not too often, but it really helps if I feel a panic attack coming). I also see a therapist.

Before all this I was suicidal, had a horrible diet, and did not exercise. The medicine combined with the therapy helped me climb out of the hole I was in. I started going to the gym after my therapist and psychiatrist recommended exercise. In a year and a half I've lost 40 pounds and my lifts just reached 1/2/3/4 (5RMs). Not sure this would have been possible without the help I got from medication and later on therapy.

>>39296933
lel all trazodone did for me was give me a boner 2-3 hours later

>>39293208
Same. But I kept hitting the gym so my lifts went up. Olanzapine is great for bulking.

Got put on olanzapine for psychotic episodes like a year ago. Put on 60 lb in 6 months. The meds make you want to eat and sleep. But atleast it quiets voices. What lead up to my psychosis was lack of sleep and too much stress, atleast that's what the doctor said. Ended up in a mental ward twice. First time because of mental breakdown, second time because I stopped taking the meds because I didn't like how it made me feel and I relapsed after 2 weeks once I stopped taking my pills.

>>39293857
>ampheta
iktf

>>39302181
Well, didn't mean to quote there...

>>39287416
I had a near death reaction to that med in middle school.

I take propranolol for intense anxiety. Its helped !e with everything from first dates to best man speeches

>>39294086
Explain to them how the meds work and the secondary effects so they do not worry. Generally speaking, those type of meds have a negative image. Explain your history with this disease, how it's affecting you and that you have not found solace in any activity or belief. That you need to try the medical approach. Try to keep it between your nuclear family, it may be easier that way.

Peace be upon you, anon.

Kinda related.

How to make myself cry? I have so much shit built up, I only cried once like 2 years ago and then who knows how longer before that and the trigger for that were my parents, who are the only ones that I have a vulnerable side to, the reason for crying ofcourse was something else though.

Please need suggestion for the sake of my mental health

>>39287416
wellbutrine is mild as fuck. Did nothing to me while I was in the Army, for some reason I was being treated for ADHD when they sent me to behavior health clinic. I eventually just stopped taking them.

>>39296104

Orally. I dont know the dose exactly but its not too excessive. Not like itpp.

>>39296135

Looks legit

>>39292614
Being able to accuse someone of being "mentally ill" to discredit them is another negative thing psychiatry has brought to the world.

Many times people get crazier when they abruptly stop taking psychiatric drugs because they're in withdrawals. Some of these drugs have withdrawals so bad that they can turn a sane person crazy, yet you quacks immediately try to use it as evidence that "the medication is working".

There is so much nasty unethical things done to people in the name of psychiatry, and you're one of the people who condone and preform these acts. You laugh at God and I hope you keep laughing at him on your judgment day.

>>39290465
The MRI wasn't to check for ADHD. An MRI can't confirm whether or not someone "has" ADHD.

Phenathylamine levels in urine is also just a POSSIBLE CORRELATION. It is not used alone to diagnose. ADD/ADHD is most commonly "diagnosed" based off arbitrary speculation and questioning alone.

>may suggest a common underlying pathophysiology

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12030014

>>39290672
If you like SSRIs then enjoy them while they last, you'll deal with withdrawals later.

Don't call it your "medication" though. It's no more your medication than potheads calling cannabis their "medication" for depression/anxiety/headaches/whatever.

>>39294017
>There are biomarkers for almost every major personality disorder in the DSM

Honestly I can't even tell if this is satire.

>>39305132
Finding some old family pics I hadn't seen before did it for me. Had a bunch of pics of family that had passed away, so almost everyone on my father's side, including my father. Everyone looks so young and lively in the pictures.