Cheating /fraud/s who sometimes discuss steroids

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first for MAGA

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praising kek, MAGA

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>>39286359
not editing that image to say LGBT FOR TRENBOLONE

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>>39286408
>implying tren is better than Trump
>making it

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>>39286401
do all fire departments test for rons, or is it a state-by-state basis?

WA here

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>>39286507
state-by-state

most fire departments do not test for them, usually that's reserved for police forces only

>>39286522
why would fire departments even care

"oh man u were really AGGRESSIVE pouring water on that fire, cool the attitude in the future alright"

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>>39286507
I don't think ANY LE/first responder groups test for gear.
Fun fact, if I was 18 again I would join the military (probably navy) as a firefighter and then join a local dept somewhere and ride that shit out in a heartbeat. I may still just for fun.

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>>39286534
>tfw climbing burning flight of stairs
>find woman pinned under a fallen beam
>DONT WORRY MAAM
>Diddly the 1000lb beam off of her, then OHP it and throw it through the window
>t-thank you mr. january!

all in a days work

>>39286535
police do, EMT does a standard drug test and background check but no specialized steroid testing

technically police don't "test" via a steroid test kit, but via polygraph

currently just getting my FF1&2/EMT certs from a local comm. college. only about a year worth of work then I can start applying as a fully licensed firefighter/EMT, will probably continue schooling during the application process for paramedic and specialized fire science degree tho

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>>39286522
>>39286535
alright, thanks

looking to complete emt-b and then emt-i, worst case scenario I'm stuck as an EMT for a while and look to get a degree in paramedicine

what's your plan cp? any prior military experience?

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>>39286566
see above, also check'd & kek'd, praise be unto him

>>39286535
moar test less fear clearer mind. should be mandated. US is retarded about aas except every athlete ever somehow

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>>39286535

>>39286563
your depressing life the blog?
if youre so alpha get a better paying job to buy all the roids ever

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>>39286563
>police do, EMT does a standard drug test and background check but no specialized steroid testing
>technically police don't "test" via a steroid test kit, but via polygraph
Ya I didn't think they did any steroid specific testing. They just worry about your Normie drugs.
>>39286566
I don't know if I would be an EMT. Everyone I've ever talk to that works in an ambulance cannot handle that shit for more than 5 years. It's one thing to put out fires, it's another thing to watch people die in front of your eyes on a daily basis...
>>39286583
Cool quote. Who is Enoch Powell?
>>39286605
I really don't get it sorry?

who here has the tightest boipussy

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>>39286621
wow (you) really rustled me there anon :^)

I don't know how I'll ever recover,

absoludedly downvoting for being ruuuude

>>39286630
right from wikipedia

"John Enoch Powell, MBE was a British politician, classical scholar, linguist, and poet. He served as a Conservative Member of Parliament, Ulster Unionist Party MP, and Minister of Health."

>>39286637
me, it's hairy tho

if you want pics email my throwaway

[email protected]

>>39286651

>email not sending

what gives anon?

>>39286669
it worked for cap, iunno.

>>39286630

Amazing how much difference lighting makes, she looks no where near that good.

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How good would this be for me on my cut rn? I can eat this without guilt r-right guys?

>>39286651
I somehow respect u more and im sorry for being rude. clearly i need more rons less money brb ordering all the tren

>>39286700
mostly unless youre a bitch but soynds like u are a bitch desu anon

>>39286719
30g of protein and no carbs
>tfw not a bitch

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>>39286651
>British politician
That's why I don't know him. I love the bongs but there is too much for me to keep up with over here to pay super close attention to their politics =/
>>39286696
I don't know who she is, but she can produce my heirs.
>>39286700
>no fiber
>ever making it

Is it worth it/adbvised for a beginning lifter to bother hopping on test? I'm around 26 percent body fat as it is so dunno if to cut first or just do test and lift.

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>>39286827
NO NO NO. It's 80% diet 15% training 5% drugs. DIET FIRST!

>>39286827
Cut first/recomp to at most 15%. Excess body fat increases aromatization issues and fucks you up bad. Commit to the lifestyle, then get the toys. Would you buy a $300000 car if you couldn't drive it?

>>39286827
natty cut to at least 15% then jump on

will be easier than you think

also if you want more advice post age, height, weight, natty test levels, time spent lifting

>>39286870
Stop spouting bullshit.

5% drugs? Have that high horse you sit on fuck some sense into your mongoloid brain.

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>>39287119
Pic related

12lbs lbm gained in two months with zero exercise. Just test.

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>>39287170
dat low starting bf% tho

Do you have more of these pics? Or before/after sterons in general? Haven't seen many, really. This one kinda convinces me that face gains are a myth, although his face does look more rectangular after than elliptical (as before).

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>>39287119
>Stop spouting bullshit.
>5% drugs? Have that high horse you sit on fuck some sense into your mongoloid brain.
Fug I always forget I have a mongoloid genetics. Thanks for correcting the record anon!
>>39287170
WOW SICK GAINS! JUST TEST ONLY?!? WOW COOL WOW!

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>>39287223
It's just a retard with an abusive Online GF that told.him to gain weight.

Works perfect for my purposes though lmao

>>39286923
Thanks anons. 155lbs, 5'5 (in b4), 32 years old. I ask about test because I know my test is low. I've gotten it checked twice and it's been sub 300 but apparently not low enough to convince the docs I need trt. It's been that way for years too I know it.

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Oh hey cool

that dude on SST looking for a content writer for their legal supp site just "hired" me

rad

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>>39287361
OK, word. Good to know about your test levels.

How long have you been lifting? Try losing some of the weight natty, but keep in mind with such low test you'll lose a lot of muscle too. If you've lifted for over a year or two you'll be ready to jump on after a few months of aggressive cutting I feel.

The main concern is the aromatization stuff mentioned >>39286916

>>39287361
That changes things.

If youre legit under 300 hop on 150-250mg/week. That's unhealthy levels of low, and your body in general will be better off for it.

Get tested for prolactin levels, and other potential causes of low test, you dont want to cover up symptoms of a prolactinoma.

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Sup /fraud/, so I did my first pin on Sunday, I'm following the basic beginner cycle Test E 250mg/ E3.5D.

Now my question is, do you measure the .5? in the 3.5 days? Or is it just a guideline to be pinning 2/week.

I pinned Sunday, so my next Pin would be Wed then Sat. Is that correct? Every 3 days starting on the day after your last pin.

Sorry for the novice question brahs I'm just a little unsure.

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>>39287570
rip

>>39287583
I just do Monday/Thursday

Mind you I don't know jack shit

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>>39287570
>not brewing your own gear
$150 for 40 vials of test brah

>>39287583
Monday morning, Thursday night, repeat. .5 is literally a 12 hour measurement.

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>>39287583
It's just e3d. Sometimes maybe you miss a day. Not ideal but not the end of the world. Unless your name is Phil Heath you don't need to worry about the time of day you inject.
>>39287614
Fug one of my favorite qt3.14s

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>>39287634
>tfw you've been pinning Monday morning / Thursday morning

Well this cycle is officially useless now may as well stop

RIP gains

I have no idea what to say to the girlie about her "just doing what I want". Might call her a good girl. Maybe tell her I'm good at bossing her around. Maybe tell her she's a good listener.

Just did a scene. Easy money.

>>39287645

Pff. Thats 3 months. Tops.

Who else 2.5g test masterrace?

>>39287570
toronto?

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>>39287645
Exactly the point friendo

lifetime TRT for $150

granted expiry dates, etc.

I brew ~20 new vials ever 6 months or so, alternative them through old stock and label it all based on date

I need to take a pic of the bugout bag with 500 vials some time whenever I make it to the /prepchamber/

>>39287653
yeah I'd adjust it for stability between the first/second pins.

>>39287692
parkdale senpai
lets suck each other's dicks

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>>39287692

>transpharma

Bitch pls, we hate trans here.

>>39287684
Wait, actually?

Due to my schedule pinning at night is sort of a pain in the ass. (pun intended)

I've had no perceived issues mon/thurs morning, I didn't think it was actually an issue

Should I reconsider?

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>>39287708

Theyre mutilated males or women with fake dicks.

>mfw not getting the joke

>tfw so autistic my work meal of half a plain baked potato, one sausage and a chicken thigh with tiny amounts of sauce counts as a dirty meal

Any other autists here?

At home i only eat pork shoulder steaks and fish. My sides are chicken soup or mixed beans,lentils,chickpeas, mix veg or cauliflower cheese

>>39287717
I mean if you aren't experiencing sides due to uneven fluctuations, and over a 12 hour period it's probably not too bad, then you're more than fine.

if you start experiencing sides though, look to that to solve the issue

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>>39287745
Will keep in mind, thanks breh

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>>39287745

Woofe.

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>>39287761
C U T E

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>it came

Diabetes here I come

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>>39287732
ive basically been eating the same meals for about 6 months straight with very little variation if thats what your getting at then your not alone.

skip breakfast, lunch 4 eggs, lentils, quinao, beans, brown rice, with random seasoning

post workout, oats, peanut butter, marmalade

dinner which is 1 hour before bed usualy, is chow mein with 2 tiliapia with 2 eggs and 2lb of mixed veggies usually 2 types of bell pepper, random onions, danioken, jalapeno, red cabbage and what ever random shit i can put in there and its lightly sauteed so im not getting fat off of it and light use of seasoning so im not adding to much for calories.

im problay around 3k caloires and my workout burns around 800 cal since i do so much cardio
>>39287817
ewww this is what you should be cumming over pic related

>>39287817
You're not even going to eat that all in one sitting, are you?

>>39287848
lol he meant as in trannies

>>39287848
make sure you take 50mg Dbol for every single meal your about to consume or else your wasteing your cycle.

so if you eat 2 times a day then 2 doses or if you eat 6 times a day then you take 6 doeses

anything else then your retarded

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>>39287869
Just try and stop me

Kek so I didn't feel like waking up to go to my day job today

And I don't think I'll go back ever again

>>39287848
OK...

Their Test E is good to go, no worries about that. Anavar is most likely winny, killed my joints and hair started shedding rly bad. Aromasin is good to go. Cialis is underdosed, or viagra or something. I used BT cialis at 20mg and took half a pill and i would get bad headaches and stuffy nose, cramps and flushed face and my dick would be hard af, like insanely hard. Their cialis doesn't give me any of those sides, but it helps my dink so it might be underdosed viagra or something, idk

>>39287908
how do you keep your desk so clean m8 what do u used to clean it

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>>39287945
How was the orgy?

3 pins into my first cycle, 250mg test e e3.5d. How long does it take to get used to needles and stuff, it still bugs me a bit. Also how many pins until I stop getting pip, pinning VG

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>>39287646
Sell me Addy dammit

>>39287982
Are you sure test-e and asin are fine?

What about nolva? Not that anon but I'm really worried

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>>39287990
>can't tell if sarcasm

If serious honestly just water family. It's a cheap ass IKEA desk so I don't want to put anything else on it. Bet it would fade or some shit

Used to clean my glass desk with Windex though but that's about it

>>39287999
What sites are you injecting, what and gauge?

>>39288029
I was going to say, not sure if he's even had that desk long enough for it to need washing, seeing as it's particle board and not fallen to pieces yet.

guys i think im ready tu turn in my natty card, cant stand anymore the fact that i will never look great without gear, i tried my best but its time

what you think about test 6 and winstrol for a 1st cycle?thinking about taking 300mg test twice a week and 100mg winstrol every other day
am i going to kill myself?

>>39287999
I'm about 3 and a bit weeks in pinning quads every time, just make sure to grab the muscle around the injection site whilst you inject and try not to move the needle around too much once it's inside.

Also use either cotton wool or alcohol swab to press around the needle whilst pulling it out.

I've heard that heating the needle under hot water before you inject helps but I'm not sure about sterility.

As for before injection feels, I've never really had an issue with it but it's still always a tiny bit tense before I inject.

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>>39288060
>tfw going three years strong with my IKEA bae

>>39288029
Dead serious, mine is similar and gets dusty as fuck with crumbs/dirt all over. It's a bitch to keep clean. Wiping that mf down as we speak.

>>39288023
Their test e gave me the least pip out of any lab i have used so far. The asin is 100% fine. Haven't taken any of their nolva so idk. What has you so worried?

>>39288072
don't take winny you fucking dummy

>>39288089
>Their test e gave me the least pip out of any lab i have used so far

Isn't that a bad thing? I've heard people say their t400 has almost no pip at all which seems underdosed...
>What has you so worried?
the whole situation of the last rep leaving or whatever. New rep seems to have kind of bad grammar and spelling and people on sst have recalled some reports of quality lacking

How fast did you notice results after you started roiding?

>>39288094
what should i take then? seen lots of people having very good results with winstrol but id love to hear a second opinion

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>>39288101
Depends on compounds

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>>39288102
seee
>>39287906
make sure you eat six times a day and a gallon of milk

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6ish months into incorporating diddlys and heavy back/shoulder shit and I'm already noticeably fixing my obliques with back work and developing my v taper.

Who needs roids amirite?

Jk I could probably have done this shit in like 2 months roiding and I'm still nowhere near done. Kill me.

>>39288043
VG ventro glute. 1.5 23G

>>39286359
If they abandon their home then they're no better than spics and rapeugees

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>>39288079
Been living in my house since january and still have 0 furniture besides my bed and desk. Is ikea actually worth?

>>39288078
Yeah I guess I still get a bit nervous and shaky, I know it effects the quality of my injections, causes me to move around a little bit and stuff.

>>39288169
all you need is a bed and a desk to be happy, your investments should be kitchen ware. food and roids

>>39288169
IKEAs okay. It's cheap shit that'll fall apart eventually though. Just go to a local furniture store. Or a thrift store.

>>39287996
Pretty wild. I got free xanax, mdma, mda and ketamine

I'm still a little high, the mda is really odd, almost like a mix of e and mushrooms or lsd

Newbf joined me

>>39288169
Depends, to me IKEA stuff is 99% styled to be bullshit faux-modern futuristic MIB looking stuff and that's not everybody's thing. My parents house is super warm and inviting and that's probably because it features approximately 0 items from IKEA.

It's also cheap (obviously). But if you don't treat it like shit I've yet to have something break or fall apart on me with decent care (except for things like dressers because I open and close drawers like a murderer)

tl;dr it's not awful just don't treat it like shit and it won't break. Just make sure you don't dislike their modern-ish visual aesthetic

>>39288169
>>39288217
Oh and for anything furniture wise make sure you're able to find a pre-built floor model somewhere you can sit your ass on and try

Some of their stuff is just downright weird and uncomfortable

Is doing a high volume version of a PPL split good for a bulk or should I isolate muscles more? Don't really feel like I'm overworking anything but I've seen some dudes way bigger than me having like a 5 day split so idk.

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>>39288188
Almost all my money goes to food kek.

>>39288191
I'm really anal about furniture. This is my bed, http://www.fimes.com/en/beds/bed_bairon-speed.html and chair http://store.hermanmiller.com/Products/Eames-Lounge-Chair-and-Ottoman

I've only bought stuff for my room cuz I don't want roommates/friends destroying furniture I actually like. I'll just fill the rest of the house with IKEA and let it get trashed by rentees. Just wish I had an IKEA nearby so I could see the stuff first.

>>39288246
This is my worry, closest ikea is like 2 hours away.

>>39288215
Sounds fun, I haven't had coke in 2 weeks cuz i'm too lazy to pick it up and I've just been in bed every day shitposting cuz 0 interest in anything.

>>39288288

>high volume ppl
>should i add more volume

Wat.

>>39288390

Theres an ikea 10km from my place. Need me to check?

>>39288390
that bed looks hype af

>>39288409
You are going to check how comfy I would feel on their couch?

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Ok so Im the spazz complaining about how underwhelmed I was on baby's first cycle

I definitely spoke too soon. This shit is great. Huge strength boost from one workout to the next, and holy shit I can go for hours. Im sorry for doubting you, Testosterone.

how long until i can expect this 190lb 12 year old so called """""brother""""" of mine to die from diabetes or something?

>>39289019
He'll probably last longer than you desu.

>>39289019
20 more years and 5 more to get diagnosed

but having exploding organs in your face realy means he'll live 21 years longer than you if you die by the end of this year that is

>>39289029
doubt it, he just ate a whole pizza and now is having burger king

and then his stupid ass family is going to be crying and shit when it gets diagnosed with diabetes (hopefully)

>>39289036
its funny as shit because you know how my parents are doctors

during the summer he was getting bloodwork done for something, i think allergies (idk for sure i forgot) and my fucking mother PURPOSEFULLY removed the comprehensive metabolic panel from it (the part with blood glucose levels, aka BEETUS indicator)

and then spent the following days chasing me with a blood glucose finger-stick. while refusing to test his

i hope this means he has it and she is just hiding it from me

>>39289059
How fucking retarded is your family holy shit

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>>39289059
i realy realy feel sorry that your parents are in denial of not only there health and your brothers but that it extends to your face also

whats the point of discount medial if your not going to check everything else out also ?

what kind of doctors ? general doctors just pass on the buck or medicate, or are they specific ?

>>39289092
surgeons

lol

these are the types of retards operating on your internal organs, enjoy

>>39289039
Diabetes or lymphoma, who's gonna die first? YOU DECIDE, /Fit/

http://www.strawpoll.me/11556094
http://www.strawpoll.me/11556094
http://www.strawpoll.me/11556094

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>>39289103
no surgeons are mechaincs with knives i dont care if they know how are why oils/gas works i just want them to do the work as fast and clean as possible so i dont die in surgery

you realy shouldnt expect them to know shit about general medical honestly half of there job could be done with a tech manual
>>39289115
still betting on thyroid malfuciton from roids being the cause of lymphoma

>>39289145
>>still betting on thyroid malfuciton from roids being the cause of lymphoma
so why didnt dnp make it worse, if anything it made it better

since dnp completely fucks your thyroid especially at my 750mg health-and-saftey dosage

dnp has no effect
accutane makes it the size of baseballs
tren makes it like, 3/5 of a baseball

>>39289115
i might die first because if a specialist says it is not curable, or for whatever reason it's not better by january, i am gonna fucking kill myself

>>39289103
also steriods and the whole community around it is basicly a gateway into being an endocrinologist, the main purpose of one of these other than selling male enchancement memes is to be used as a preventative health, if your over prevent the issues you currently have then your gonna get gains with side effects one of the major being is heart problems, the big three below that is liver(if oral) perma shut down from heavy abuse and gyno(reversible or surgery) everything else can be outwheight with the pros of being on roids

its under utilized and doesnt make pharma money so dont expect it to be legal even if cocaine does

i intend to get my second degree in either this or genetics and go for science before i come back to medical to provide proof of my findings or something

>>39289202
>>its under utilized and doesnt make pharma money so dont expect it to be legal even if cocaine does
>
>i intend to get my second degree in either this or genetics and go for science before i come back to medical to provide proof of my findings or something
wat

>>39289174
dumbass your thryroid can be either hyperthyroidism or hypothyroidism

your malfuction from roids couldve produced either end result

seems like im closer to my bet crusader+

>>39289218
steriods of any caliber can be used for preventive health care in plenty of circumstances but it isnt becuase there wouldnt be money in it like pharma where they solve the symptoms not the source majority of time

holy shit you need to do some research

also cocaine isnt that bad for your health with proper dosages

>>39289223
but tren also lowers thyroid function

lol

fucking memer

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If you wanted to totally fuck someone's athletic performance for a sport by putting something in their coffee the night/morning before, what would you choose?

Bonus points if it's unnoticeable, readily available, and has no long term consequences

Was thinking 25mg of asin but that might take too long to kick in

Not competing against the guy, I just want to see him fail miserably.

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>>39289262
http://www.endocrineweb.com/conditions/thyroid/hypothyroidism-too-little-thyroid-hormone

hypothyroidism

lol fucking memer :^D

>>39289279
20g of caffeine and watch them die.

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>>39289313
kek 500g of caffine powder is like 20$ and it only takes 5g to kill someone

>>39289313
Probably not gonna work, he's already got a massive caffeine tolerance and will probably take like half a gram on his own anyway

It's an mma fight if that's relevant

>>39289289
yes and dnp also crashes the fucking thyroid and dnp is not making it any fucking worse

>>39289387
make him shit himself during the fight

put laxatives in his coffee

>>39289412
but its keeping it the same after you stoped your tren, which when in combo with dnp made it worse, so your fucking stupid m8y

and you said your still on dnp right ? so its problay not going down but if you re'added tren then itd be worse

>>39289425
i dont think my thyroid particularly cares whether it's tren or dnp shutting it down

When starting steroids, how do you reduce the risk of tearing a muscle? Been smashing all myrep PRs, but down want to tear tendon going too hard

>>39289448
anecdotal but both me and my friend fucked our tendons up pretty bad by doing stupid ass barbell and ezbar curls

we have shit flexibility though

>>39289448
Generally you'll get a 'warning'. Your tendons and joints and shit will hurt, this is tendonopathy and it can progress into worse conditions unless you back off a bit.

Sometimes shit just snaps but that's pretty rare if youre not doing stupid shit

>>39289432
ok but you said your lymphs where growing with it and shrunk without the combo and stayed the same with dnp after you stoped using both at the same time.

in short get your thyroid checked faggot i am actually right yet again like i was with lactosebrah with him using juices inplace of lactase supplements and how it helped him absorb it. i didnt know how right i was but i went with my gut with it so i got that going for me

>>39289446
Reported enjoy your ban kekekekeke

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>>39289446
B& in 3...2...1...

>>39289416
w2c strong laxatives

It's a good idea but I think it has flaws

He's always going on about how he's the best and I really just want to see him get snotted around

I was thinking the asin because crashed estro would make him weak and sad

>>39289496
>>I was thinking the asin because crashed estro would make him weak and sad
the actual estrogen (not aromatase) has too long a half life for that to work quickly enough for ur plan

>>39289494
>This is the face all women want

>>39289494
i thought bimbos hairline wasnt receding wtf

>>39289496
>>39289506
Yeah if you could get it in him a day or two in advance it would work but not the morning of

>>39289518
He is in denial dont pick on him he's our special buddy

>>39289519
I can get him the night before, it's in the morning

How would a big hit of codeine go?

>>39289528
>tfw saw some of my baby pictures
>and i have a weird ass hairline even as a baby

>>39289530
fucking great lethargy is a bitch to deal with before a workout so a fight would be no different. buy you have to go for a large hit or else he wont feel the pain of being hit and still fight you off with little to stop him from advanceing

>>39289484
y tho

>>39289530
Is this a drug tested fight?

Pretty sure asin and codeine are not wada approved. He'd know he was drugged for sure.

>>39289551
What dose do you reckon? Also don't have straight, would have to cold water extract from paracetamol/codeine

>>39289548
Were your glands just as special too?

>>39289585
It's not tested, it's too local

On the plus side, all his friends will be there to watch :^)

Sup guys 5'7 163 lbs if I cut on 150mg test and maybe some sarms and an eca stack before my next blast will it improve my lacking back. As in more muscle definition or am I just dyel.

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>>39289614
^^^

>>39289614
>>39289625
hahahahahahahahaha

>my next blast

you mean you fucking roided for this?

>>39289591
no fucking clue i dont take opiates
>>39289600
why dont you take cheque drops for the aggression ? or is it to soon to order ?

>>39289635
yea how much time do you have before this?

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>>39289630
I'd day I'm pretty solid for my frame ass hat I was just wondering if I cut because my body fat is high how much more definition I could achieve.

>>39289635
>>39289641
It's on the weekend, so too close for anything to arrive by mail

Not fighting the dude, he's just a fuckwit and I want him to embarrass himself.

>>39289667
nice 13 inch arms at 25% bf

good roid results

>>39289625
you shouldve roided to 180lbs then considered wheight loss after 6 months of building muscle

>>39289668
well your biggest challenge is spikeing his drink

>>39289678
We're staying in the same house on that weekend, and he trusts me kek

>>39289668
I think the laxative is probably the best best here

fucking fags i ask for help and all you assholes do is say "b& hehe xd"

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>Tinder girl says she loves me.
Even tho we specified hook up only
>second tinder girl says she loves me.
I tell her 0% chance i'd date her before we even meet.
>third-sixth tinder girl same thing
EVERY GIRL THAT SAYS SHE IS FINE WITH HOOK UPS IS A FILTHY FUCKING LIAR AND I HAVE SO MUCH GAY AF EMPATHY CUZ IM A BETA BITCH CANCER RAISED BY A WOMAN THAT IT IS KILLING ME AND NOT EVEN TREN BONERS CAN STIFLE THESE FEELINGS.

>>39289667
>Curlbro routine
>Complains about how his back is small

>>39289685
he is truely retarded, use laxative and codeine with a little vape juice and youd have him on his ass shitting everywhere. just tripple the codeine dosage, you cant hide codiene unless you give him a preworkout(caffeine) mixed with an energy drink. the nictonie will act as a laxitive also and make his opiates worse. tell him your giving him a fighting chance when you give it to him.

>>39289698
Dick game must be incredible. Mirin.

What do you look like?

>>39288133
Where's your chest

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>>39289714
I hit arms one a week fag

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>>39286401
>that fucking name

>>39289765
>splits while on roids
>splits while natty
>doing a split routine ever

you cant be this new to working out can you ?

>>39289765
>Has a dedicated arm day
Thanks for proving me right lmao

>>39288072

Fuck winny, it wrecks my joints. Do var, tbol, dbol or any other oral.

>>39289809
I do bi's once a week with back.....

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Guys just saying

Rice cooker was the best investment I've made in a long time. Perfect rice with zero effort

>>39289832
Agreed, easiest way to get carbs in

>>39289830
>Training a small muscle group with a short SRA curve once a week
>Training back once a week
>Having a "back" day
Holy shit stop, the hole is deep enough

>>39289734
I've had sex like... 15 times total that literally can't be it unless i'm a natural sex god.

>>39289951
What do you think it is, honestly?

>>39289832
make sure you rinse your rice and throw some oil in there

>>39289981
why do you rinse rice ?

>>39289981
Ex taught me this rice has never been better

>>39289832
Get yourself some short/medium grain for dat dere sticky stuff, mang

>>39289981
Yeah threw in some olive oil

Rice is pretty quality doesn't need rinsing though

>>39290022
>Two weeks from now house is filled with 50kg rice of all kinds

>>39290022
>not being long grain rice master race

>>39290033
Real talk, if you're buying in bulk, get some sort of large, airtight plastic container for it. I made the mistake of buying I think it was a 10kg bag once, and just used a plastic clip to seal it. Went stale and had all kinds of bugs in it

>>39290037
Long grain is for poor Africans. Enjoy your AIDS

>>39290064
>not eating the bugs for gains
REEEEE

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>>39286563
>>39286566
>>39286630

the emt field as a career is fucking godawful soul-grinding shit, you peak as a para and career progression or (considering the job) a reasonable salary is a fucking joke unless you're in one of the tiny select pockets around the country where somehow they actually pay them decent

being a combat medic doing actual combat medic shit is a fucking blast and completely different because 75% of your job is the same shit as the guys you're with aka splitting wigs and blowing shit up, 20% is just basic doctor's office/clinic shit taking care of relatively minor cuts/scrapes/sniffles/etc, and the last 5% is the part where shit gets real and you earn the "medic" part

>>39286870
>NO NO NO. It's 80% diet 15% training 5% drugs. DIET FIRST!

honestly I'd argue you can't really divorce diet, training, and recovery from each other to try and rank them by relative importance

note: I'd like to apologize in advance to any geologists out there

imagine a volcanic mountain with a venn diagram of those three as the base, the closer you get to the center and the greater the overlaps between the circles, the higher and faster the mountain grows

adding aas is like increasing the magma pressure underneath the mountain, it's going to grow faster but the structure and way the mountain has grown (genetics) are going to dictate not only how fast that grows, but it's also going to dictate what kinds of bad shit (side effects) can possibly happen

relatively minor shit like little lava vents on the surface (acne), the increased pressure could increase stress along fault lines in the mountain (hypertension, connective tissue injuries from strength outpacing their adaptation, etc), or if the structure is really turbofucked then it pops its top (lurking birth defects in the heart, etc etc)

god that's a terrible metaphor

>>39290091
>NO NO NO. It's 80% diet 15% training 5% drugs. DIET FIRST!

autism its 70% training 20% diet and 10% drugs

>>39290013
Excess starch on the rice, rinsing it gives a better consistency after cooking.

>>39290091
I think your metaphor just made everything 10x more confusing

>>39290084
>implying i didnt

>>39290108
lol I eat like shit cuz I'm a college student and drink 2-3 times a week but still am pretty happy with my results. Did way too much speed and alcohol last night and I think my liver hates me since I'm running dbol right now. Ended the night with some ketamine as well, shit got weird.

>>39290025
The quality of the rice isn't the problem. When it's packaged and ship, a lot of grains break apart and the starchy dust sits on the other grains, which impacts the consistency of the rice during the cooking

>>39289970
No idea, maybe all yall boys is absolute shit human beings.

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>>39290147
Dbol isnt that hard on your liver but you should be taking it with NAC and milk thistle at the very least.

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>>39289698
>I tell her 0% chance i'd date her before we even meet.

welcome to the club, meetings mondays and thursdays for group pins

there's a negative correlation between a particular kind of lack of interest and how much attention you get from women

>>39289848

please don't take this in any way as me defending this >>39289765 tard, but you've got no fucking idea what you're talking about

>>39290131

I could draw it with crayons if you need a picture

I mean I'm not going to, just stating that I could

>>39290184
>Dbol isnt that hard on your liver but you should be taking it with NAC and milk thistle at the very least.

or maybe tudca if he doesn't want to light his money on fire

>>39290184
I'm taking em and double down on the milk thistle the days I drink. My lipids have always been fine on tests and I used to drink like a fish.

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>>39290173
Im full cocoon mode for now while roids ralox and accutane do their work.

Im so glad these drugs exist. All the roiders around here aren't even that big or shredded, and they have that topheavy overgrown curlbro look. Like nah man Imma do fucktons of rows Push-press and deadlifts turn into a monster with a back the size of a 5-person tent.

>>39290191
>or maybe tudca if he doesn't want to light his money on fire

i always forget about that oh well both work fine as is so tripling up with tudca wouldn't hurt i suppose

>>39290108
No no, it's 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will, 5% pleasure, 50% pain, 100% reason to praise the Lord.

>>39290191
Explain how Im wrong then. Just because you say, "nah lmao" doesn't change the fact you should work small muscle groups at a higher frequency, and dedicating a day to "back" is a huge sign he has no fucking clue what proper programming looks like.

>>39290191
Look could you bust out the Crayola cause I just don't get it

>>39290232
there you are crusader i guessed right on the thryriod being a possible issue for swollen faggot check the rest of the thread

also NO NO NO its 50% pleasure 50% pain 100% praise kek

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>>39290224
>i always forget about that oh well both work fine as is so tripling up with tudca wouldn't hurt i suppose

actually tudca's the only one worth a shit

>>39290236

you're making the assumption that you need to dedicate focused assistance work to those small muscle groups multiple times a week, whereas any decent program is stuffed to the fucking gills with compound exercises that utilize the small muscle groups as secondary movers or synergists

that compound work making it unnecessary to do more than a small amount of focused assistance work to balance any possibly neglected muscle heads or portions of the full range of motion

>and dedicating a day to "back" is a huge sign he has no fucking clue what proper programming looks like.

and you still have no idea what you're talking about

>>39290108
10% training and then diet and drugs equally important. training really just needs to be a bare minimum of at least hitting the fucking muscles, and diet and gear both need to be good, can't have one without the other

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Just mass sent 150 memes to every girl I was talking to. I think i'm finally free, even for meme lovers they are feeling like i'm weird now I think.

Back to coke,gym, and being alone as god intended.

By the way I'm a fag and I bought an Macbook Pro for my new laptop. Tell alex.

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>>39290298
seems like ill have to re-research tudca then

you can easily workout your back 4 times a week no problem, the biggest and fastest growing musles are in order as follows

legs, back, abs(compounds do plenty imho), shoulders, chest, arms

but thats just me i like total body workouts 4-6 days a week with that kind of emphasis, not like its perfect since i change my workouts every 2 months with certain emphasises

>>39290317
training your musles more frequently is ultimately going to be better for your body than diet 100% of the time.

>>39290327
forgot name

>>39290348
>>training your musles more frequently is ultimately going to be better for your body than diet 100% of the time.
shitty diet will make u get 0 gains while shit training will still get you gains

>>39290369
>shitty diet will make u get 0 gains
you have no idea how wrong you are

>>39290298
This is such a strawman argument.

None of what I said was wrong in any way. Smaller muscle groups respond better to higher frequency. Just fucking try and dispute this.

Assuming he's like any other brosplit retard he does 5/way split with each "bodypart" having it's own day. That is 1x a week frequency for everything. Yeah there's some crossover but how much do you think lats play in ohp? How much you think biceps work in benchpress or "leg day"

So go ahead and put more.words in my mouth just to glorify your S-class training qualifications dipshit

>>39290326
>Yfw this backfires and your phone blows up 24/7 with marriage proposals

>>39290377
go bulk or cut without protein

and then go bulk or cut with retarded exercises

>>39289685
just kys faggot, you wouldn't even have the balls to poison someone so stop talking about it, that's just honestly embarrassing.

what did the dude do anyway? fuck your crush?

How /devilish/ would it be for a source to put Winstrol instead of aromasin?

>>39290392
go workout 1 body part a week

and then do that for 1 year straight and tell me your juicey becuase ill still laugh at how wrong you are.

most people meat the minum req for protien of .8grams per lb no problem wether cutting or bulking so there is no reason that diet should be even considered a limiting factor when working out. for you the limiting factor will always be the frequency of which you hit your muscles and no one can dispute this as the main reason for growing muscles

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Compiling a list of trips and names in fraud. Current trips that is.

Anyone I missed?

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>>39290421
For what purpose, also its melon.

>>39290436
Because my autism is kicking in. Aight.

>>39290441
NO NO NO its 50% autism 50% memes

your not alone buddy
praise kek

>>39290441
Forgot the weirdo with no name just a trip. Gives mediocre advice and isn't very knowledgeable but dammit he tries

>>39290452
The dude who's in love with me?

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>>39290317
>10% training and then diet and drugs equally important. training really just needs to be a bare minimum of at least hitting the fucking muscles, and diet and gear both need to be good, can't have one without the other

and that's why you look like a fucking retarded dyel chipmunk

or at least part of it, anyway

>>39290348
>you can easily workout your back 4 times a week no problem, the biggest and fastest growing musles are in order as follows
>legs, back, abs(compounds do plenty imho), shoulders, chest, arms
>but thats just me i like total body workouts 4-6 days a week with that kind of emphasis, not like its perfect since i change my workouts every 2 months with certain emphasises

yeah you wanna know how I can tell you don't touch the kind of intensity even my recovery week workouts do

fucking back 4 times a week, jesus christ

>>39290382
>This is such a strawman argument.
>None of what I said was wrong in any way. Smaller muscle groups respond better to higher frequency. Just fucking try and dispute this.

no, it's an ad hominem: you're fucking retarded

before your goalposts shifted to perfectly line up with exactly what I just said, you stated the blatant and simple jack fact about muscle group training frequency with the implied context being the need for more than once a week direct assistance focus

>Assuming he's like any other brosplit retard he does 5/way split with each "bodypart" having it's own day. That is 1x a week frequency for everything. Yeah there's some crossover but how much do you think lats play in ohp? How much you think biceps work in benchpress or "leg day"

so you're running off of this assumption as some bizzaro way to try and justify your (at the very least) incredibly poorly articulated point about training frequency, and at the same time glossing over any legitimate overlap areas with incredibly common compounds like chins/rows/etc in your breathless rush of confirmation bias

also lol, like I do training for a living

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>>39290452
you mean brick ?

>>39290401
10/10 projection

>>39290460
Shots fired

>>39290457
its technically all of those muscles 4 times a week
but im not going for intense(heavy) im going for 80% as long as possible for like 2 hours daily i do add wheight but i do mixed between calistincis cardio and weights for muh athletics

your once a body part weekly workout is dwarfed by mine after my second day. maybe not in heavyness but atleast in volume

i blame the 2 pots of coffee i drink at work that fuels my

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>It's a dyels vs brick episode

>>39290527
>why hasn't brick cut yet and look better than me episode

>>39290531
wonder what he looks like on blast to be honest

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>>39290469

from what, a cap gun?

>>39290489

so in other words you get a whole lot of nothing done

just mashing the volume button doesn't magically do shit, like grats you did 100 reps for that exercise and maybe 40 were actually at peak muscle activation and recruitment, meanwhile all 100 were busy doing the wear and tear on your joints

the only thing that actually counts is that peak activation and how intense the stimulus you're providing during that window

>>39290527
>>39290545

oh come on, that's like the worst one I've posted and it's even pre-blast

>>39290531

bruh my core's always going to fuck my taper compared to yours

facts of life when your goals are pete rubish, kk, and chris duffin

>>39290559
are you going to compete in PL?

>>39290559
maybe for fucking powerlifters once again MUH athletics, i know all that info fair and well, peak weights dont mean shit to me if i cant deadlift my body wheight 20 times then whats the fucking point or run 5 miles sub 7 mins per mile, or do 200 push ups without breaking position so on and so forth, my personel goal is overall fitness for as long as possible and as heavy as possible.

i dont give a shit if you can lift heavy or not but your wasting your fucking time doing low frequency/low volume workouts when you could be doing so much more. just becuase its sore doesnt mean you cant work it out again you fuck tard you should know that your body recovers far faster than you can imagine

>>39290599
correction 50 reps for deads i do 5 x 10 for wheights

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>>39290592
>are you going to compete in PL?

as a hobby sure, I like the training style and just being stupid strong in general

not going to drive myself into the ground number-chasing, but if I can hit a 2k total within the next 5 years at 242 then cool

>>39290599
>i know all that info fair and well

you really don't though, considering you completely missed the entire point of what I said

>peak weights dont mean shit to me if i cant deadlift my body wheight 20 times then whats the fucking point or run 5 miles sub 7 mins per mile, or do 200 push ups without breaking position so on and so forth, my personel goal is overall fitness for as long as possible and as heavy as possible.

basically you're not training for a sport or activity so you're going to completely ignore the linchpin around which the entire biological adaptive responses of the human body revolve with regards to muscular strength and conditioning, in favor of... crossfit jack of all trades with zero actual success metrics?

cool

>i dont give a shit if you can lift heavy or not but your wasting your fucking time doing low frequency/low volume workouts when you could be doing so much more. just becuase its sore doesnt mean you cant work it out again you fuck tard you should know that your body recovers far faster than you can imagine

normally I really don't like doing this because it's a terrible argument, but I have neither the time nor the patience to break down exactly why you're a fucking idiot and wrong, plus you're just irritating the shit out of me

with that being said, look at >>39290559 and then go look in the fucking mirror, stop trying to manufacture these delusional little definitions of success that only exist in your own head, or at the very least stop trying to use that made up shit in some sad kind of attempt to think you're better than someone else because they aren't playing the same imaginary game with made up rules that you are

>>39290655
see
>>39290452

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>>39290599
>your wasting your fucking time doing low frequency/low volume workouts
doing training specific to your goals is a waste of time?

>>39290673
not trying to do that goal as much as you can weekly is a waste of time especially while on steriods

>>39290673
>>39290698
If you're on gear you should always be lifting

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>>39290664
>>39290698

man you really do have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about

and you just keep digging deeper and deeper and deeper...

How do ppl on gear snap shit up?

Is it just because they start feeling much stronger when they start so they just start getting excited and going for personal bests? Is it easier than that to snap something on gear?

>>39290698
Seriously
Even on gear there is none to minimal benefit from 3-4 training sessions a week to 7 days a week.

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>>39290706
so your honestly telling me you lift as heavy as possible 1 time a week and you expect maximal growth ? if so then fuck off your the deepest of retardedness
see
>>39290664

>>39290452
>>39290456
yeah

that idiot who posts 9kb pepe images with all his posts

>>39286605

/fit/ in a nutshell

Hi
I want to start lifting for aesthetics and also for a robot lifter boyfriend who actually looks like he lifts
How do i pick up guys who look like you people?
Are you people more into the high test look or almost underweight look?

>>39290733
im pretty sure its this memer
>>39290739
nice b8 as usual

make sure to slip him 200mg of Dbol as usual

>>39290739
You want a roided up BF? people like this aren't really looking for a girlfriend but I'm sure plenty would fuckbuddy with a fatgirl and maybe make you feel special

>>39290749
no im dead srs
i want a juicy guy that's a robot

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>>39290739
Nothing matters, you are fat and most likely won't change anything in your life especially considering you are thinking about roiding before you even understand the basics or have an actual reason to lift beyond getting dick which is as easy as installing tinder.

I'm going to go kill myself.

>>39290765
advice for him
>39278774

>i want a juicy guy that's a robot
your gonna end up with /pol/ everytime bby

we want high test fit chicks most of the time
make a straw poll to prove it

>>39288390

that bed looks awesome how much did it cost you?

>>39290760
I'm not having sex til marriage
Will the cum be poisonous though? I'm ok with bjs but dnp is scary
>>39290776
I want to lift so i can be thicc and muscular
Not sloppy looking and lucky to not carry too much weight on my stomach
>>39290779
High test and fit is pretty rare though
Ig is optical illusions, barely any of them have hips and ass irl
I do though :)))))

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>>39290718
>so your honestly telling me you lift as heavy as possible 1 time a week

I lift 3 times a week or 4 if I split off shoulders and some miscellaneous shit like grip work

squat + secondary lower body compounds and assistance, bench + bench assistance + bicep assistance, deadlift + general back work + tricep assistance, shoulders/grip/etc

>and you expect maximal growth ?

I expect maximal strength gains with a commensurate amount of relatively dense lbm gain

and again you're too fucking retarded to grasp the salient point I've been trying to hand-jam into your fucking eye holes

>pick a fucking goal or goals and train for them
>endless amounts of volume/frequency don't mean you're actually doing the work
>you're a shit-for-brains retard whose grand total sum of knowledge about lifting, programming, diet, etc doesn't even cover what I learn in a given week

and here's a reference just for bimbo

>come at the king, you best not miss

>>39287229
not him but are you really that fucking stupid?
10/10 bait

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>>39290809
>not doing squat and back everyday while progeressivly increasing wheights weekly and using ancillary/assitance workouts as finishers/burnouts for maximal growth as much as you can with as heavy as you can
>ever gonna make it
>not you

>pick a fucking goal or goals and train for them

you fail to reach your own goal retard
>>39290805
see previous thread before commenting pls you must understand us before you can comment here

Hi fraud
DNP thread is up pls come and discuss things

>>39290805
oh ok so fake

>>39290857
kys
dont care about you people

>>39290923
>squating and back'ing once a week
autism

acutaly working out any muscle once a week is autism

>>39288100
Dude, the rep has no control over production, he's a distributor.

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>>39290559
>Excuses
Thick cores are aesthetic as fuck youre just a permabulker

>>39291000
the only goal body worth mentioning is his

>>39290559
Ok so you're actually fucking wrong and Im gonna link you a bunch of shit outlining in detail how youre fucking wrong

>Volume
http://strengtheory.com/more-is-more
(8 sets to volitional failure> 4 sets > 1 set)

>Frequency
http://strengtheory.com/high-frequency-training-for-a-bigger-total-research-on-highly-trained-norwegian-powerlifters/
(Study on powerlifters showed similar volume but higher frequency increased hypertrophy and strength)

>Extensive outline showing that, yes, more frequency but especially more volume is important for strength gains
https://www.strengthandconditioningresearch.com/strength/


All of those articles are pretty well sourced and rationally put together. Now stop spewing broscience and "look at my pictures bro" n=1 fucking nonsense fat fuck

>>39291071

>enhanced athletes where?

I think you're all actually missing the point of bricks posts.

As always though, periodisation > setup

>>39291152
Ok. Then fucking link me one fucking study showing lower volume and frequency is superior. Just fucking one, you nitpicking little shit.

Because that third link, has well over 50 fucking studies, with meta analyses included.

>>39291170
i think he was refering to steriods make any shitty program look like a good program idk

thanks for the links i actually have better science than whats self learned in the gym from being a natty

>>39291152
don't defend brick just because he's brick

he's a fucking idiot

>>39290377
>>39290348

>There are people on this board who think diet is less important than exercising

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>>39291212
it is dummy wummy

>>39291212
try eating like shit and working out vs eating properly and not working out

see what actually builds muscle

>>39291212

People on roids aren't necessarily the ones people should be taking advice from. The roiding masks a lot of bad knowledge and inefficiencies. Sure training is important, and you can train harder, longer, and more frequently on roids, but diet is still king. You can get away with skimping on recovery a bit because the roids help, but to make the most efficient gains on roids you'd ideally have great diet and great recovery, and just train more than natty.

>>39291224
>>39291231
I'd say it's equally important at least desu.

If you stuff hamburgers and ice cream in your mouth after every set you're going to look like shit.

If you have a perfect diet and don't lift you can still look decent with genetics but not good imho.

If you work out insanely hard and diet perfectly you'll look the best possible in your body.

I guess it's "do you want to be a power lifter or do you want to be aesthetic?" And I'm answering from aesthetics POV where both are equally as important.

>>39291256
I agree mostly

I don't think you'll find anyone saying diet isn't important, it's just laughable when people like >>39286870 say this shit

5% drugs lmao

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>>39291256
>Powerlifters are fat and unaesthetic meme
Just leave

>>39291256
aesthetics sure diet is important but lifting will do more for your body than a good diet ever will.

honestly your one hop and a skip away from understanding truly that building muscle comes from working out FIRST not second of dieting.

imho looking good comes after you've build the muscles first not after you've dieted down. there shouldnt be a bulk/cut endless cycle for years instead there should be a bulk then recomp to your limit(with roids past that for either) then you dial down your nutrition to get your specific look like vascular/full look or something else specific to what you need sports or other wise .

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>>39291282
http://www.records.powerlifting.org/world/?lan=en&gender=M&age=sen

now google all these record holders one by one

I'll start you off, even the squat 59kg world record holder is fat and unaesthetic. how is someone at 59kg fat, you ask? he's a fucking dwarf

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>>39291282
>google search power lifter
Huh, there's one guy on the entire front page I'd consider aesthetic.

I WONDER IF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ROID TESTING AND WILKS POINTS FAVORING HEAVIER ATHLETES.

Utter fucking trogdolyte tier post, anon. Just because there's a cherry picked example or 5 doesn't mean they're all aesthetic or even that half of them are.

>>39291170

I don't recall disagreeing with anything. But if you want to apply to the topic you need to take into account all the variables. Otherwise it isn't relevant.

Now leave.

>>39291299
im to lazy to pull out my mechanical advantage memes due to hight.

holding water helps alot for moving weights though i mean why the fuck would natties take creatine when its barely effective to begin with unless it made holding water in the muscles a advantage towards wheight lifting? i could be wrong since most men hold fat in the stomach region but i bet it helps alot for squats if im right

>>39291311
>This study didn't include details such as prolactin levels, which day of the week the lifters were born, and whether or not they preferred chocolate or vanilla ice cream
>Whelp throw it out it obviously doesn't apply
This is how retarded you sound

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>>39291307
>>39291299
>All this mad

>>39291290
Lifting will build more muscle, sure. Diet will make you look better. They're both stupidly important for a body builder. Idk why anyone's trying to pretend like they can eat whatever they want and look Arnold tier no matter how many roids they take or hours in the gym they spend.

>>39291329
too obvious b8.

>>39291335
>Small and weak
>Makes excuses and insults others

>>39291331
>who is jay cutler and ronnie coleman

there fucking massive and eat like shit in terms of volume, tons and tons of food of any sorts that they can afford and with there hard as shit workouts there is no reason that they wouldnt build muscle and that only becomes endless when you add in roids to the mix and any shity program becomes a god tier program to them.

your talking about lean zane frank stlye looks
they loved to workout FIRST AND FORMOST diet came second to them everytime since they already build the mass they needed in there early years. after that it was easy as shit to recomp or cut a few pounds off from the years of getting to the size and strength that they needed to maintain it.

once again the proper anything cycle should be, bulk/recomp/think about roids/ do roids and consider bulking or recomping again to get to your future goals. and the only way to do this is with working on making a high volume/freq program while progressively adding weight when possible.

Lads, how to get test levels checked in the UK? My doctors being a cuck and won't do it because he doesn't think it's necessary

>>39291331
oh and eating heathly is as simple as cutting out sugar and eating less so define it to me what healthy means to you ?

>inb4 saturated fats are bad low test faggots

>>39291386
Can you doctor shop?
Can you get private bloods in UK

>>39291386
tell him you cant get your wife pregnant

piss in a jar and use the
http://craigmedical.com/Steroid_Testing.htm
and show it to him either way your fucked unless you want to use the still legal superdrol/DMZ/halodrol/halostin and the sorts

>>39287361
How's your sex drive?

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>>39290091
>note: I'd like to apologize in advance to any geologists out there
LMAO
I think what you are trying to say is basically gear only enhances what is already there. If your diet or training or genetics are shit the gear is just gonna make it better shit but it's still shit.
>>39290232
...
I actually like that song and you got me all excited and then just...

>>39291564
I think this girl has silicone in her ass

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>>39291578
>The sobering, graphic photos show how gaping holes in Miss Urach's thighs were caused by infection - leading to her turning to God
Holy fuck women are retarded

>tfw,researched trt doctors here in canada
>tfw going to finally get trt probably if I ever wait enough for the appointment

I'm excited

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>>39292000
Gratz on just barely above high natty levels, at absolute best.

Just get ugl or learn to brew so you can leave humanity behind anon

>>39291663

desu was harder to look at the tats than the infection

>>39292023
I don't want to leave humanity behind.

Hey guys, I got some aromasin that's 25mg/ml but it's in a dropper. How much is in each drop and how long before it lowers estrogen?

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>>39292050
And that's what makes you a forgettable and useless specimen.

>>39292146
I am ok with that.

I stand out in other ways.

>>39292133
Holy fuck dude. Why are people this helpless?

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>>39292152
My bet is that you dont stand out nearly as much as you think that you do

>>39292154
I've had it forever and I forgot about it

>>39292163
Neither do you

Are you a fitness model or actual bodybuilder? Probably not, probably an oversized gym rat with terrible proportions that would never get a pro card no matter how much cow hormone he took

>>39292196
I just wanna be a monster friend. My goals will take years to reach. But in a way that's what makes them worth it.

But it just seems like such a waste to go through all the trouble of having your HPTA shut off, getting injections, potentially even having to deal with an ai if shitty aromatization, and get as little as possible out of it.

But go ahead and keep on sending disparaging comments over the internet. You seem quite secure in your choices when you insult someone truly anonymous, don't you

gf bday soon.
what should I get her?

>>39292224
Then why the fuck do you post here?

Are you basically a cuck betaorbiting gayboy for roiders?

Did I get that right? You don't actually roid but want to "leave humanity" and save images of naked men as well as justify other people's choices to roid?

>>39292245
>gf bday soon.
>what should I get her?

A big black bull to fuck her brains out

>>39292255
thats why she has me tho

>>39292247
>Salt reaching critical levels

Look at all this projection. You really should roid, it might have a positive effect on those stress hormones. Pretty sure my point was made quite clearly. There's plenty of normal people, why be another?