/fraud/ general

5 pl8 dl for 3

>new thread at 292 posts
kys my man

What's the non-natty top level?

I think I have decent genetics for some sports (competed state in high jump, went to regionals for rock climbing) and am wondering about the non-natty top level.

This is considering BnC/using well tolerated roids. (No, I'm not gonna cycle halotestin or inject drops into my balls)

Better yet to ask I think is what's the top level for the average Joe non-natty? Is something like 2.5/4.5/6.5/6.5 plates irrealistic?

>>39168855
>pathetic little Zika-babies can't make gains without their widdle steroids!
LOL, fags.

>>39168902
take your BMI and add 40 points to it and thats the top natty. when on roids you add 60 points to your bmi

>>39168911
people take steriods after there natty is reached dumbass

>>39168911
Please try harder, this isn't even funny in an ironic sense where you're purposefully making shitty bait.

>>39168925
Dude what? So my top natty is 65% body fat?

>>39168925
i dont think i can get to a 67.5 bmi natty my nigger

unless i pack on massive amounnts of fat

>>39168925
>>39168933
>they think this is bait
Your all failed manlets who can't make any gains without pinning, amirite? Your like Captain America before the supersoldier treatment: frail, weak, sickly. Don't lie, you know you can't even make normal gains for a normal physique without the roids.

LOL, fags.

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>>39168939
>>39168940

gotta eat big to get big

i mean look at me im 15% body fat

>>39168902
Olympics

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>>39168855
Best lifts before I stopped powerlifting @195lbs BW were

645 Dl
510 Squat
365 Bench

I havent benched or deadlifted in 6 months and I rarely squat over 405 if I squat at all so I dunno if I could still come close to that.

>>39168950
>Olympics
Damn, so everyone can make it on sufficient roids

>>39169066
No, I think have good or at least decent/non-shit genetics with cutting edge sports science and training backing you, and then some drugs on the sly backing you will get you there.

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290lb bench for a 1rm when i was 17. 25 now and never got it back even after lifting hard for 2 years. I miss puberty gains.

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what's the point paying more buying SARMs from pharmacies/labs/supplement shops and not directly from China? All these niggers are just importing their product from China anyway might as well only pay a third the price

>>39169087
I'm glad to hear that.
I've only recently got on the /fit/ train at age 22 but I've made huge gains and I think I have the possible genetics to go heavy, especially with sterons.

>>39169108
idk i wanna get mk 677 but its really expensive for what it does

dammit i was posting

http://imgur.com/a/u5o62

kek is with us read his signs

and i saw an illumati sign on one of my catpchas, how fucked am i ?

>>39169121
it's much cheaper than going HGH route and really even if it's not too noticeable having higher HGH and IGF-1 levels will help you improve your physique regardless, even if you're not roiding.

What's the cheapest /fraud/ tier chemical I can buy?
Can't afford $200 for a 12 week test cycle. Are there any sarms that are a lot cheaper?

>>39169135
i want to do it, but whats the cheapest way to get it?

>>39169138
if you can't afford that much for a basic cycle, you can't afford paying for the food you will need to eat anyway

you are not in a good place to consider roiding right now, get a job

>>39169138
you cant afford 10-20 bucks a week for a cycle but you still want to roid?

if you want to go cheap just do 250mg test a week with 10-20mg dbol a day for 10-12 weeks and PCT with nolva

>>39169138
If you can't afford $16 a week. Then you can't afford to roid.

>>39169140
like I said, buying directly from China is the cheapest via alibaba. But it's dodgy as fuck seeing as these Chinese exporters get no reviews or feedback from anyone and your shit might be spiked with arsenic. Other more trustworthy sources are ceretropic and geopeptides. enhancedathlete and samsx are overpriced. I've also seen sarms1.com being shilled.

test 100 tren 250 for past 10 weeks. dick has recently been difficult and unresponsive. first 6~ weeks were boner city. is it possible for such little tren to do this?

>>39169159
i dont buy mousepads without reviews so im sure as fuck not getting powder that i eat from somewhere dodgy

sarms 1 ive seen before but its fucking almost 200 dollars for 30 days worth

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Anyone had experience with melanotan?

Paging MG if you're an anon right now. Not sure if my source is ripping me or not.

>>39169174
dont fuck with melanotan why would you do that

>>39169170
Totally possible. Unlikely but possible. Time to get some caber boyo.

>>39169159
https://www.geopeptides.com/mk-677-25mg-x-30ml.html

probably would get it from here because its cheap af

should i?

>>39169108
Testing and knowing what you get. well, supposedly.

Anyway, irc.bio is a relatively trusted source.

>>39169179
Because glorious all over tan without harsh sun exposure. Australia's UV ratings are insane especially coming into Summer.

>>39169182
I'm not going to tell you whether you should buy shit that will fuck with your hormones anon, just dropping some links

>>39169158
>>39169154
>>39169151
Fuck you niggers
I get free food and lodging and I work but I still can't afford that and I want to try some legal sarms or something to see if they're Gucci too

I have enough money for the test and I have arimidex from my last cycle but I prefer aromasin and wouldn't be able to afford nolva or the needles

>>39169186
post pics when you end up looking like patrick from the spongebob episode where he goes tanning or end up black

>>39169187
thanks for the link my nig

>>39169192
>i get free food and free housing
>i can't afford $16 a week

4chan is for 18+ only.

>>39169198
But I'm 22.

>>39169186
tbH it's probably pretty stupid to use mt during the fuckin australian summer (or in australia in general actually) unless you literally never ever go out

but you do you

>>39168902
>competed state in high jump, went to regionals for rock climbing
haha yeah probably in grade school you fucking faggot get real

what does 25MG X 30ML mean? 25mg/ml? 25mg spread across 30ml? specifically referring to >>39169182

>>39169205
I don't like the beach, so I hardly ever get an all over tan.

>>39169224
25mg/1mL i believe

30mL per bottle

>>39169227
just go outside or get a spray tan you dont need to fuck with dangerous shit for a tan

>>39169211
I was 18 for both of those lul

>>39169174
Me and a couple buddies ordered a few vials the other day, we gunna get a nice tan

>>39169243
oh god

>>39169252
>>39169229

Why dont you like it?

>>39169229
I don't need to inject bathtub chemicals into my ass to be even moderately attractive, but I do anyway.

I haven't heard of any horror stories other than random boners.

what do geopeptide and irc.bio label your packages as? There's no way they're not going to check my package if it says they're labelled "research chemicals" surely

>>39169192
Nigger, what the fuck are you spending your money on if you have a job AND dont pay for rent and food? The fuck.

The only sarm I recommend on it's own thats easy to get is LGD-4033, because its stronger than the amoint of test is suppresses. It is however even better/synergistic taken with test.

irc.bio its under $60 including the liquid kit for 1 gram. 1 gram is 200 days at 5mg, or 100 days at 10mg.

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>>39169261
>>39169205
>>39169179
>>39169174
Me and my friend both used melanotan II over the last summer (canada). We ran 40mg/day and there were no unwanted side effects for either of us besides mild nausea immediately after injecting it and lasting for no more than 30 minutes. He got very dark with regular outdoor tanning and i got noticeably tanned with irregular outdoor tanning. It was p.good desu and we're going to use it again in December while booth tanning to get that unnatty glow.

>>39169372
*0.5mg daily
typo, 40mg daily would give you renal failure

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>>39168911
Repent, sinner!

How dare you question my roiding ways. And don't even think about calling into question the consistency of my premarital gash-fucking and my faith, you nerd virgin.

if the bathtub chemical meme was real then i could be brewing my self proper raws like i do alchol, shit would be so nice

>>39169432
uhh lol

it's very real

>>39169443
brewing raws into injectables is not what im talking about what im talking about is making it from its base form

>>39169451
My question is, how do they make the powder? Like what is the actual raw ingrediant and where does it come from?

>>39169473
i know its wild yam but even with hours and hours of searching i cant find the chemical process

wild yam is very very close to testosterone
or else you would have to work from cholestrol down to the target hormone from eggs

and they get DHEA from soy

so it would be nice to see the full chemical process

>>39169473
testosterone is derived from raw sweet potatoes

dunno about the rest

>>39169487
>>39169484
That's fucking cool. I want to learn more.

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>>39169493
dude i sent it in the link posts long ago but here we go

its more specific

http://www.genome.jp/kegg-bin/show_pathway?sur00100

http://www.anabolic-bible.org/ShowPage.aspx?callpage=Synthetic_Development

my links arent shit reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and im not a shillll reeeeeeeeeeeee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycloartenol

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>>39169473
Not that hard if you have access to raw DHEA, t b h.

If you live in the US you can get DHEA raws legally. If you don't live in the US you've got bigger problems than not being able to synthesize test.

After you've got test base from DHEA then you just esterify with hetpanoic. Or you could alkylate it and then try and get it through the FDA as an oral test supplement and fail like these fuckers: http://www.lipocine.com/

>tfw you make $10k by shorting a stock based on basic biochem and risk analysis

Ok not gonna lie I was nervous af when it got the pre-decision hype as all pharma stocks do.

>>39169473
>>39169451

There's a modified bacteria that does it. There's steps to make it from phytosterols even which you can buy in pure bulk.

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>>39169554
moar

>>39169548
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/295o6t/dhea_to_testosterone/

yes but finding cheap bulk suppliers is a pain in the ass

how much is the DHEA conversion into testosterone?

>>39169573
if ingested not converted chemicaly

>>39169554
>phytosterols
Good man. Read some papers on that shit a while ago, still think it's way easier to do with DHEA raws. My guess is that this (DHEA->test base-> esterification) is how the chinks do it.

Thought about opening a domestic lab but really there's no need with the quality of shit coming out of China. We do need knowledgeable risk-takers in case the chinks start slipping higher levels of heavy metals in their raws to combat the growing US threat of roided up manlets.

I figure if I'm gonna start synthesizing scheduled substances might as well go for the shit that helps you comprehend God and lead a better life because it's easier for me to believe it's worth the risk.

>>39169573
>how much is the DHEA conversion into testosterone?

Are you asking percent yield of test synthesis using DHEA precursor? Or are you asking about endogenous conversion of DHEA to test?

Also, never looked into cost of DHEA. I used to have an old neighbor who took DHEA pills so I know it's OTC - maybe cost effective DHEA raws are cheap. IDK.

Why aren't you guys more interested in LSD? There's only so much you can learn from merely enhancing your flesh.

FUCK these captchas. I'M NOT A ROBOT you just haven't shown me any street signs faggot google.

>>39169599
There's also enzymes with high conversion rates. The trouble is obviously getting your hands on such materials.

Also you can oxidise cholesterols and phytosterols in 1 step to a mix of steroids. Identification and separation is another issue..

>>39169573
http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs-wm/19751.pdf

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OK so I want to get to know y'all a little better.

Answer the following (with non meme answers if possible): what is best in life, to the best of your understanding?

>inb4 wet holes
>inb4 coke

>>39169621
are you >>39169554?

Anyways, what's your background? Want to start a CRISPR-r&d startup in Mexico?

I just want an excuse to quit my job. Fuck I worked like 60 hrs this week no lie. No life.

>>39169618
both endogenous conversion and synthesis

and i am

DMT/ACID/Melattonin master race

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/thot/esp_thot_1b.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg85IH3vghA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvOYEu5Lbb0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEtPAV_QIFk

>>39169621
lol i just downloaded it

>>39169638
>melatonin master race
Yeah bruh vitamin C master race amirite xx

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>>39169626
The best feeling in the world, is to be happy with yourself. Looking at yourself in the mirror while thinking; is this really me? Can it be true? Just wanna make you suck your own dick. Better dan mdma or sex

I would do me so hard

>>39169637
Yeah.

Have some minor chemistry experience. Just spent a lot of time reading up on that shit, always had a strong interest in science. I moved to Japan though and gear is not illegal, considering if I should try to import raws and brew.

I worked like nothing in the past month and a half cause had some money. Gonna start some other work in a few days though.

>>39169651
theres plenty of military bases to sell steriods to, fyi hopefuly theres a few off base to sell to since its legal for you

>>39169649
I love you MasT. You're narcisitic rambling is funnier than brick's.

>>39169372
COUNT
EVERY
STEP
MAKE

>>39169665
I was just gonna set up an anon website and shill to 2ch at some point. Thats where I found my domestic sources.

>>39169638
Not sure about endogenous desu.

As for synthesis, I imagine the chinks have it down to 90% or better by now. I bet we could get the same in the US.

Glad you are interested in LSD. Well lemme first ask, are you interested in God?

The 10 dimensions shit is kinda baby steps imho. Maybe I have just always associated it with /r/atheism tier understanding of the world.

Or maybe I just don't get it. I am just a sucker for the ancient wisdom traditions of the devotees of God before they had to get all sectarian and non-philosophical (i.e., dogmatic) about it.

I will check out your other 2 vids bro. Cool to know there are people who are interested in self-improvement on a non-physical level here, however that may manifest.

>>39169649
>to be happy with yourself
Goddamn, masT. You always surprise me.

This is such a deeply true answer I don't know what else to say. Some people achieve this by perfecting their physical form. Some people do this by refining their understanding of what is referred to by the concept of "I" (through the philosophical dialectic and analyzing+refining their own nature in view of the nature of God).

But regardless, achieving this is the final end/goal of every birth that many do not accomplish.

Are you religious?

>>39169649
>I would do me so hard
Buffalo bill is that you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOG-JGtdAGI

>>39169651
Cool. Did you move to Japan for work or pleasure?

I admire those who can make it in another country and still grow/develop themselves. I found it very hard. I am just spoiled by the USA <3

>>39169687
What's 2ch /fit/ like?

>>39169704
Bit of both. I want to expand career opportunities into new things rather than sit in small-medium business stagnating with no prospects.

The usually kys fag instead is like die scum etc, hard to tell I rely on chrome translation.

>>39169690
the yogi stuff is muuuuchh better when you go through all of its videos trust me it makes 10th dim stuff look far more plausible and with thoth it makes it far more intresting when you read it twice before the videos and after the videos

also check
>>39169127

mind and body self improvement are never seperate ideals infact you cant have one without the other

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Look around in the gym. See people that look the same after years of training. Even people on gear. I am the only one who's making progress.

My question to you dyels; how do you still have the dedication to go on? Are you this delusional that you made yourself think you got something to be proud of? Explain this to me. Mirin dedication nevertheless

>>39169690
No, my only religion is wanting to be better than you. I only believe in myself. You think that people care about your ass? Born alone die alone.

When will it be your time to understand this common logic

>>39169701
gtfo with your soft gay porn music faggot

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nice. read on reddit som1 having needle stuck inside of skin/muscle, got new fobia

>mfw pinning today and seeing if the needle was coming out or na

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>>39169730
pic related is you

beautiful human being you are
<3

>>39169730
>gtfo with your soft gay porn music faggot
Oh come on faggot, youve never seen Silence of the lambs?
Youre missing out bitch

>>39169738
o shit

>>39169730
>how do you still have the dedication to go on
it fucking sucks dude

lifts go up slow as fuck, i dont even notice if im bigger or not because it happens so fucking slowly, most days i dont even bother looking in the mirror because its ALWAYS the same shit that i see, the same things i dislike etc

thats why im in fraud rn

>>39169730
>When will it be your time to understand this common logic

masT I don't even disagree with you but don't you ever think about what exactly separates your dedication+genetics combo from the eternally DYEL?

What is it that drove your ancestors to improve themselves in successive generations? Where is that ideal toward which you thrust yourself even coming from?

Religion isn't about believing that other people care about you. Religion is about caring about that which inspires us to be perfect (i.e., that which is ACTUALLY perfect and draws us to resemble perfection by virtue of existing and being known by the minds of wise/virtuous men).

Not saying you should be a monk or anything, just don't think that what you're doing/feeling makes religion something that is truly separate from you. Don't buy into this cuckstianity that people throw around on the internet. Look at the scriptures/saints writings on their own if you ever get interested.

>>39169726
Alright I'll take your word. Will watch tomorrow.

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>>39169753
atleast you're trying to fix ur problems and not giving up. Have you started yet?

>tfw 1.5 months away from doing my first cycle
THE HYPE IS FUCKING REAL!!!
I'm trying to cut as much fat as possible, I want dem 3d shoulders and proper arms so fucking bad

>>39169704
2ch isn't 2chan, 2ch is Russian 4chan

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>>39169772
whats ur cycle

ten bucks you'll b not satisfied with your first cycle results desu. the less u expect the better

>>39168902
>2.5/4.5/6.5/6.5 plates irrealistic?
that's exaggerated as fuck for an average joe, a normal fellow that trains hard as fuck maybe but the average meat head roider wont get that far, that's a fuckload of weight in all those categories specially ohp and squat

>>39169775
o shit. i am out of the loop then

>>39169770
not yet, soon

ive been lifting for about a year and a half, 5'7 175 now

>>39169786
>manlet steriod user , every fucking time, fit was right again

>>39169786
Got your natty test levels checked?

Always good to get a pre-roid baseline in case you fall for the cycling meme and want to know whether your PCT is effective.

If you have 1.5 months till cycle, get your natty test checked. If you are low, look into b&c.

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>>39169789
delete this

RIGHT NOW

>>39169796
and the based lord said on to thee, no

also if your not making gains as a natty then without a doubt your not working out hard enough

>>39169795
>PCT
Wew buddy

>>39169804
i am making gains

they are just very incredibly slow

20 years old, any reason why I shouldn't order 2 vials of test, aromasin & nolva right this minute, get my bloods done next week and jab my ass with 250m/L of testosterone enanthate when I get my results (if nothing is out of check)?

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>>39169741
I am only watching midget shemale porn

>>39169753
Make pictures to monitor your progress. I am talking about people that literally look the same for years and years. ZERO PROGRESS.

No body dysformia. Welcome to my world. Forever small in a big world.

>>39169767
When do you stop with this faggotory bullshit.

>>39169807
no seriously have your diet be 40/30/30 carbs protien fats, and basicly drop split routines and do total body routines atleast 4 days a week and without a doubt you'll grow faster

with steriods you'll grow regardless of shitty routine but total body is better for natties since the volume is higher

remeber the big 5, dips, pullups, OHP, deadlift, bench, squat

or pushups instead of bench at 200 reps

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>>39169806
Hey, he's the one who said

>tfw 1.5 months away from doing my first cycle
>cycle

Also sorry if earlier bullying made you feel bad. Was really just aimed at trying to get you to see things in another light and strive for self-improvement. Sex is a touchy topic. But sometimes we need to be questioned and called on our own bullshit.

Get marred lol. Makes life have a lot more purpose when you are aiming to serve God in though, speech, and act. Truly, you feel set on fire with the love of God when all cognitive dissonance is rooted out.

You even start searching for cognitive dissonance in the places you would not even think to look, just because you get addicted with the feeling of uprooting those impurities.

I know you have said you enjoy prayer group. Why do you enjoy it? Because prayer is the act of surrendering your frail and honestly impotent ego at the feet of the God who is the cause of all self-improvement, at the case of all movement in the world.

>>39169831
Mate you couldn't hurt my feelings even if you tried. Appreciate the apology in any case. Very humble of you.

>>39169821
What do you think of >>15991181
>>>/jp/15991181

>>39169841
doesn't your family think you have autism?

>>39169857
Being religious doesn't make you autistic.

If you're referring to mental gymnastics he does to justify willful fornication then yeah I'd be interested in the answer :P

>>39169884
ive got it for my own BF% so i any body with a religious one is farrr worse than myself

>>39169884
This >>39169857 is reffering to a post I made a few days ago. My mum and my gf both believe I have autism.

>>39169898
>My mum and my gf both believe I have autism

your on 4chan so thats a given but where is your autistic direction ? for you its morality and clearly law if your that much of a kucket

>>39169192

> I get free food and lodging and I work

I guarantee you if you really want to, you can save a little here and there to get the remaining money you need for the needles and nolva.

>>39169487

So I'm injecting bathtub sweet potato extract into my ass. Who would've thought.

>>39169940
at least its organic vegan gluten free and goy free

is geopeptides legit?

>>39169898
How was the prom? Did you talk to anyone?

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>>39169958
no sources faggot

>>39169966
what

>>39169972
we do not e talk about sources and how roid legit they are here or else we lose this general

>>39169973
its legal dipshit

>>39169960
It was a Gala for my gfs university's law society. Went with gf of course.

From the previous thread
>>39167133

>>39169782
it'll be a test E or P (still havent decided) with some D-ball, Around 400-500mg of test and 30mg of D-ball
>the less u expect the better
I know I'm not asking for much just some decent arms ;_;

>>39169992
>d-ball
>dragon ball

How much Tren would I need to be Goku?

>>39169998
1g ed

>>39170011
not enough treninerals, must add additional roids

>>39169998
you are memeing but i was talking about dianabol

I'm genuinely curious and not trying to be confrontational, how do you guys cope with destroying your long-term health that occurs even if you cycle? Specifically the heart and liver damage and increased blood pressure. The huge chance of heart attacks later on in life is a dealbreaker for me, but maybe I'm just a pussy. Do you guys just have a live fast, die young mindset or what?

>>39170048
You won't destroy anything unless you're stupid and irresponsible or just plain unlucky.

It's not like anyone here is turning into Ronnie Coleman.

>>39169989
Ouch man. Too bad

>>39170048
Only people who overdose their shit and are just assholes get that shit. And those who are really unlucky ofcourse

>>39170074
Out of curiousity and i dont mean anything with it after the gala story but does your gf know you're on the juice?

>>39170074
>>39170099
I want to believe
Still a little worried I might fit in that "unlucky" demographic if I hop on. History of heart issues in my family, but they also had a lot of lead exposure so it could have been that.

>>39170099
She "knows" but never takes me seriously.

>anon your getting really big now
>>It's all the steroids.
>Hahaha yeah whatever anon
>>No I'm serious. I inject bathtub chemicals into my ass.
>I'm sure you do honey

>>39169626
Adrenaline. When I'm wheelieing my motorcycle and people are watching, or going ~160 mph and zig zagging through traffic I fucking love it in the moment. It's like crack. That look of "You're a crazy bastard who has bigger balls than me and my friend combined." I get from people who see me stunt gets me off desu.

Close second is having sex with a hot ass woman for the first time, a good mdma high, or a really good acid trip.

Third place goes to coming home from the gym and seeing myself, or watching myself in the mirror and thinking faurk I look good. Contentment is actually really underrated.

Fourth goes to winning an hour+ long dota game.

Yeah those are basically most of my reasons for living rn.

>>39170159
What bike desu?

I only startes riding 8 months ago on a ninja300. No 160 wheelies for me.

On a side note, why do hazelnuts taste like shit?

>>39170140
Oh man, i cant even gek it to my gf since she hates steroids. She notices growth but i tell her i just eat heaps of food

>GOTTA EAT BIG TO GET BIG CMMON

>>39170184
gek gotta be tell. Love auto correct

>>39170167
Kawi 636. The holy grail of stunt bikes. I just got home from the street races tonight and was having some fun stunting between random people drifting and doing donuts.

I stoppied then did a power wheelie off it immediately as I came down, almost unintentionally. That was the coolest moment of the night, just having the muscle memory to go from standing on one wheel to the other.

Clutch up your 300, pussy. I did it on my 08 250. <3

>>39170226
I can clutch up, but I'm consistently terrified.

>>39170230
It gets better. Just gotta practice and not be afraid to eat shit once every blue moon. I used to freak out doing anything on my 600, now I'm drifting, wheelieing (stand up, sit downs, clutch up, power wheelies.), skitching, stoppieing, tank splitting, and doing all sorts of degenerate shit on my baby that I can't even name. It's so much fun.

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>>39169992
It's your first cycle, I assume you're not familiar with pinning so I SUGGEST you to use E over P for less pinning

>>39170184
I think deep down she knows I'm doing steroids but doesn't want to accept it.

>>39170248
The 300 is my daily and only form of transport outside of public transport. So I'm terrified of binning it.
>tfw $1000 fucking excess on insurance

>>39170277
Lucky. My gf would def get mad as shit, id prolly end up dead

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vbw1v5e0n1h4in3/AADX6B4wkTzykbj3xySJWzQ-a?dl=0

and my redpills are done
>>39170277
for you buddy ole pal

>>39170274

Or p over e to get used to it.

>>39170074

Mast is trying to copy black manlet syndrome somehow though. You've seen his autistic "im better than anyone else" posts right?

Thing is, it's literally the only thing in life he has. It's sad desu.

>>39170023

Trenerals?

>>39170388
its like minerals but instead we azine'ed the compound to include tren for more effect, its super effective women, women use splash when they see you

>>39169174

Ppl. 5x10mg for 60 dollahs. Top shekel.

>>39170393

SPAWN MORE BROVERLORDS.

>tfw zergfag.
>wouldbang zerg kerrigan.

Dnp, losing 1lbs or more a day now. Gonna lower kcal from 1400 to 1000 today.

>>39170418
brood war kerrigan would be the only choice

also a redhead before the swarm so muh dick

>>39170418
Meh, wanna try dnp so bad but i want to be a big ass breh too

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>>39170447

Take dnp, get back to bulking 3x faster.

>>39170426
New zergified kerrigan half human was hot.

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>>39170380
you cant get used to it with less pinning?

>>39170517

You can, just pointing out both have merit. When you're done with a test-e cycle of 15 weeks you could potentially just pin e5d without huge fluctuations. That's only 21 pins. Prop eod? Thats 50+ pins.

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>>39170564
Rather give this unsure kid small steps to the poll rather than pushing him str8 to water and see if he can survive from it

Are any of you guys on a pre workout?

>>39170721

I like tren base, methyltren and halo.

>>39170591
yes, finally, I missed you, i don' even know who you are but I missed those stupid reaction images and senseless posts.

>>39170760
How's halo?

are PCT's probably legal in my country? I can't find information on anything for this in Ireland, just know in general I think steroids are illegal, much more illegal than in the UK. Been on tren 2 weeks now and I have to get ready fast.

>>39170881
They will more than likely be illegal to possess without prescription considering shit like nolva is used for breast cancer.

>>39170760
Whats halo bwoiii never heard of the stuff you said except tren base

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trying to lose 3% body fat in 3 weeks, currently sitting at 12%, wanted to know has anyone experienced yohimbine HCI, if so did it work and what dosage do you think is suitable?

>>39170948
>Yohimbine HCI
You mean DNP? Yeah DNP. Use DNP. Trust us kid, DNP.

>>39170916

Halotestin

>>39170792

Strength mostly, bit more than msten but I think it works faster somehow. But it's also far more toxic so I prefer msten.

Mtren is GOAT tho.

>>39171011

20 days in. 10 days of cutting without dnp where I gained half an lbs. Probably because I quit taking ai. 10 on dnp. 88.x to 83.9, I ate 3-400g chicken and downed over a L of water 15 minutes before.

So im probably under 83 now. Just took 400mg to endure during the day. 200 at night, otherwise i'm swimming in my own sweat.

By the way, i hear people say "i get so much energy when i lift!!1!1!"
I get hella tired from training so is the energy a memememe or am i doing it wrong?

>>39169775
2ch.net is Nip 4chan, where it started.

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>>39171262

Depends. I get focus if I go in the morning. Energy as well but i'll definitely feel it a few hours later.

>>39170881
Depends on country. Many you can import a personal supply if its under a given limit.

>>39171276
Same, but people actually claim they get energy FROM lifting (like afterwards)

>>39171298

I do. If I don't lift im sluggish until sundown.

But I get up at 4ish, shower, lift until 7ish and if no uni i'll pop a benzo.

Sleeping > life.

>>39171314
Wish i had this, i work all day, go home and shower, straight to the gym with 3 scoops pre workout and when im in bed i sleep in 5 seconds

>>39171364

I do it because I'm apathetic to most things by now.

As I said to NatT and brick, if I don't get my ex back before I meet them they can kill me, I won't resist.

God knows I tried, nearly succeeded too. But my body is pretty resilient.

I wish I had a true goal in life. But I highly doubt i'll ever find one again.

>>39169739
thats a shitty picture, i think the aliens were far far superior to the humans trying to conquer it.
What good is all this might, while you are destructive hateful monsters that ruin everything that they love, while the aliens live in peace and harmony, live happily until they die.
thats a shitty way of thinking, in my opinion.

>>39169738
how would that work, when you pull out you will see if the needle is still attached to your syringe or not lol

>>39169738
Brb buying super strong magnet just incase

>>39171262
prob ppl who dont train hard enough

>>39171475
>superstrong magnet
>when you're injecting chinese heavy metals
Youll rip the roids right out of your ass

>>39171590
>not using super magnets to recycle roids for free extra gainz

>>39171386
Why make others do the dirty work? Or do they want to kill you?

>you can lift harder, lift more often, and recover faster on roids they said
>be on 500mg test
>have crippling muscle soreness for 3 days straight after every workout, and still feel it on the 4th day

do i train too hard? wtf is this bullshit

it makes me mad

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>>39171765
>sleep
>nutrition
>diffrent musclegroup
everything in check?

>>39171878
>go to bed at 9pm everyday
>k there might be a chance im not taking enough protons and cals
>im giving my muscle groups enough rest yes, if thats what you mean

also this is just my 3 rd week. might that be a reason too?

>>39172037
wild guessing it is E, yes? then yes. it kicks 4-5weeks but u wont feel "high" u just recorver faster etc.

u know ppl use orals as kickstart cuz of that rite?

Realistic to go from 13-14% to 8% in 3 weeks or 500mg dnp?

Been doing 60mg of ralox for the last 7 days for some lumps I developed about 4 weeks ago. My nips are still in pain. Is this normal?

>>39172062
Of*

Could run it longer too, but don't want to up the dose, cant handle more than 500

>>39172062
depens on many factors
try and know

Where do I buy some roids in Poland?
Also what's good first cycle?

>>39172054
I thought it was 2-4 weeks

>>39172083
Walk up to the biggest Guy in the gym you see, they prob know where

>>39172114
b-but i lift in my house

>>39172054
Yes, E.

I know that i wont feel high or punch through metal with it. Stiil, 3 day soreness is just fucking insane.
And it certainly has some effect before 4 week point. Considering Groot Gains gained 20 pounds from week 1 - 4.

Fuck orals. Too much aromatization and liver heavy. I dont have a problem waiting 4 weeks till it kicks in, considering im gonna BnC after that blast

>>39172083
pretty sure they are legal in poland.

>where
fuck do we know.
I know that you can literally go to pharmacy's in India and just buy them there like candy

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>it's finally that time of the year
>I can break out the long underwear

feels so good lads

>>39172253
Nice glutes Cat. Whats your squat?

>psmf
>after a week lose ~2.5 lbs of fat and wind up binging my ass off for 2 days, gain a lot of it back
>dnp
>easily run it indefinitely at moderate doses of 500mg, lose like 5lbs+ a week, have no issue with sticking to a diet coming off of it

how does this work, and why. when i come off a psmf i feel like shit until i stuff my ass, when i come off dnp i am fine. maybe it fucks my stomach up enough that it doesn't allow me to get hungry

>>39171726

Because im a coward.

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>>39172297
kek

slave could only squat 65lbs counting bar

absolutely P A T H E T I C

but the sex was bomb diggidy

mine is 425 atm, shittiest lift and it pisses me off. I even wear my adidas windbreaker pants and squat shirtless; still no slav power

>>39172328
>run it indefinitely
I hope you aren't doing what I think you're doing

I'll ask you guys here, because you're more experienced and probably also were more ripped than the rest of the board while you were natty:

Is a brosplit (4 body groups) really that shitty for beginners?
I've been training for 1 1/2 months 4 times a week with that split and I'm really making good progress physically as well as strengthwise.
Since everyone is recommending full body workouts though I'm afraid I'm missing out on something.
I'm hitting my lats, chest and legs only 1 time a week, which probably is the main problem with my routine atm. (I'm gaining strength though and my lats are getting wider)
Should I try a lower body/upper body 2 group split?
I wanna workout 4 times a week.

pls help

>>39172364
>>>run it indefinitely
>I hope you aren't doing what I think you're doing
as in i have no issue running it for as long as needs to be done, which has never been over 3-4 weeks.

psmf is a mental struggle every day, but dnp is easy as shit and i have no issue sticking with it, AND i lose way more on it.

just don't see how it could work like that.

>>39172345
You should have said it would bring disgrace to famiry

>>39172381
Why not PPL?

>>39172381
lower and upper body is fucking retarded.

you have a fuckton of muscles to workout in your upper body, but only 2 in your lower body.

how do you split up your muscle groups?

I think

>back, biceps
>shoulders, chest, tricpps
>quads and calves

is the most logical and efficient split you can do. Lots of time to dedicate each muscle group

i did full body in the past, but then a single session would last 2-3 fucking hours. fuck that.

1 hour isnt long enough to train your entire body, or upper body that is.

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>>39172397
There was a guy who ran dnp for a few years. Like 200-300mg
Like a cruise so he could eat more

>>39172439
>>>shoulders, chest, tricpps
don't you have trouble doing shoulders and triceps the same day

i can't ohp as good if i bench the same day

>>39172449
that's dumb though unless you want nerve damage and a fucked up thyroid

Is purplepandalabs okay? ;)

>>39172454
yes thats a good point.
shoulders and chest works just good, because if you do a shoulder exercise, you will train your chest too. And if you do a chest exercise, you will train your shoulders too.

If i add triceps though, i get really weak on my lifts.

My PERSONAL work around for this is, to just spent an extra 30 minutes on Push days.

I work my shoulders and chest for 1 hour straight, which is enough time for these muscles.
Then, i spent 30 minutes after that, doing triceps work only.

>>39172485
yeah they good. They dont ship to certain countries tho, like scandinavia and aus

>>39172381
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_PdXfTvxOF0ZXIy3hlVGmo0GeMdRDEz1

>>39172439
I always do it like this
>chest
>shoulder
>back
>arms
>legs

>>39172397
gotcha, just making sure you're not doing something retarded like >>39172449

>>39172485
see>>39172518

also has my vote

>>39172518
>>39172545
How long does the shipping to EU take? They don't have info on site

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>>39172469
Yeah I agree
Think about how hard you could bulk though lol

>>39172485
>trusting meme raws
Let me guess you ordered from kevin and lmc too?

>>39172530
i tried that too, but i personally have DOMS after every workout.

So if i hit chest today, i will have to hit shoulders and endure the pain i have in my chest. And its not like i can just deactivate my chest.

>>39172556
like 10 days in most cases. But you never know. Could take 2 weeks, could take just 1 week.

>>39172576
DNP would work against your bulk...

>>39172576
I just wanna buy some orals. So is it legit or nah?

>>39172667
yes

all raws come from the same fucking factories in china, like 3 iirc. the rest are just re-sellers and drop shippers. It's always hit or miss with raws, regardless of who they come from

>>39172576
>>39172485
Some of those raws have been tested by sst members, epistane tested low, but the rest were very good iirc.

>>39172692
An intermediate is good if they order large batches and test them (if). The expense of testing large batches is small and you can then just get away with ordering 100g without doubling the cost.

>>39172415
I'll look into that, thanks, do you have a link or name of a routine you would recommend?

>>39172439
What you're saying about the upper/lower body split makes sense.

I've been doing
>biceps, legs
>chest, abs
>lats, triceps
>shoulders, traps and lower back

Could you rate this? I liked this more than push and pull since my biceps, triceps and shoulders are being hit twice a week.
As I said though the bigger groups (lats, chest and legs) are being hit only once which is probably a weak point.

>>39172711
seconding the epi testing, I think he pulled the epi actually, the batch they got had sat for a long time and degraded over time due to that

>large batch testing
of course it's always hard to verify the legitimacy of any claimed testing. It's hit or miss anyway, but he's got a good customer service track record (see his most recent complaint and the steps taken to fix it) and speaks english

that's a +2 over anyone else for me, personally

>>39172625
Thats the joke

>>39172667
Depends on the oral
Ive gotten more bad orals than anything else
But its so much cheaper

>>39172711
Bl tested well then got bunk dbol
Can't trust nobody

Hey guys, is 40mg of Dianabol ED good for a first cycle?

Decent generic hgh VS ghrp.
What do you pick for tightness, thin skin, fatburn

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>>39172766

>all bow down to the Queen of shades

Had +- 400kcal today. 700 left. Gonna take 200mg more dnp later to hit 800mg.

#420yoloswag4jesus

>>39172858
dbol only will have quick gains, but realize quick deflate. I'd shoot for 30mg 40 won't kill you. It's fine imo. Some say oral only is dumb, but all this is dumb so whatever.

Has anyone ever put pre filled pins in their check in bags while flying domestically? i leaving for a week tomorrow on super short notice so i can't ship em....

>>39172921
Diff guy ive been taking 20mg (10 in morning, 10 before bed) stacked on test, just taking it slow and steady.

someone recommend me a good shitty part time student job to look for that pays well

I'm shit at this

but my job now blows

>>39173007
go be a waiter at a nice resturant.
>>39172991
Yeah I usually do a dose morning, then a dose 30min pw.

>>39172982
i wouldnt risk it desu.

just pin right before you go, you will be fine if its just a week

>>39173034
im on test p tho

>>39172982
>>39173034
Yeah wtf is wrong w you. You could risk it but why? over a WEEK? pin your week dose the morning of the flight famapam (assuming enth esters)

>>39173042
well you're fucked then

>>39172724
if it works for you, if you like it and you get gains, then its fine by all means.

triceps one day, and shoulders the next day doesnt make sense for me personally, because i get muscle soreness from every session. and if you work shoulders, triceps will be activated too.

But if thats an issue that you dont have, then go for it. Its decent

>>39172073
Bump on this. Help my tits bros

>>39173042
you'll be fine, i'd pin it all. especially just test big whoop. worst case scenario you get a little more horny

>>39173042
well thats a different story, cant help you out with that.

not sure why people like being pincushions anyways.

Test E is GOAT in everyday. Stable levels, long enough for holidays.

Test in general is just goat. Fuck orals, fuck tren, fuck eq, fuck everything.

Test everytime, you get big and jacked on it, and wont have loads of different shitty sides all the time.

>>39173051
prop esters.... fucking end my shit

>>39173064
A week is not even nearly enough for your lumps to go away, that shit takes a few months brah.

So you developed lumps 4 weeks ago, and started taking ralox 3 weeks after that?
I think in that case alone would have been enough

>>39173064
letro seems to be the go to for fixing tits. never had the problem but here's a (you)

Bumping >>39172872
for answers. will be back after a quick gym run

>>39173084
>I think in that case alone would...

I think in that case ASIN alone would have been enough, i meant to say

>>39173070
Tren is life desu

why are there no dnp threads anymore

>>39173084
You left out a word there. And the reason i went with ralox is because I have some pubertal gyno i wanna see if this will knock out.
>>39173086
I always heard ralox was the king of killing boobs.
>>39173093
Ah okay.

>>39173101
Got any questions about it? I've done like 7 runs of it from 200mg daily to 1000mg Ed.

>>39168855
I'm about to jump on a phera cycle. It's starting to get real cold here so I don't the water retention and bloating it apparently gives you won't be a big deal for the 4-6 weeks I run it depending on how I respond.

I hear it is bad for increasing appetite which isn't good for me right now because of my food restrictions due to my job.

Would it be a decent idea to smoke a small amount for the 4-6 week period while on cycle for the appetite suppressant effects?

I'm talking about 3 or 4 a day at the most just when I feel too hungry... I do like nicotine but I don't get addicted to things easily.. I smoked for 3 years and then quit cold turkey one day because I met my wife and she didn't like the smell. But I'm away from her for now so the smell doesn't matter.

Only asking in case smoking while on cycle is specifically bad for whatever reason. I've not heard much about this subject before?

Also any phera stories?

>>39173253
Why would you smoke when there are appetite supressors

Is tren prolactin gyno the actual growth of new potentially permanent tissue, or just a temporary "flare up" type of thing?

>>39173253
see>>39173282

Ephedrine
Caffeine
Adderall [any amphetamine, extreme]

tons of other shit I'm either forgetting or too lazy to list

>>39173282
>Oh, sorry I should have mentioned.

I have built a crazy tolerance to most of the appetite suppressors I usually use. It's my own fault. I'm taking a long break from stimulants as of 2 weeks ago. Except the occasional cup of coffee.

>>39173334
Why did I greentext my own response?

Sorry for being weird. I have had ltitle sleep.

>>39173103
if you have pubertal gyno, then it will take around 3 months to kill it bro.

dont expect anything from a week

Okay so, I have a huge head, a huge adam's apple, and I'm the tallest person in my family. And my family members all have normal sized heads. So I'm thinking I had more HGH production as I was growing.

Would it be safe to say that if I took HGH now, I would have terrible side effects and get an even larger cranium, and look like a retarded bobblehead?

>>39173425
>he thinks its because of hgh

you look like that, because you have a big head that is supposed to fit a tall body.

but then you have awkward slender man lanklet skinny body, which makes your head look huge in comparison.

if you would get buff and swole, you would look normal again.

>this is how bro science is born

>>39173424
I was honestly just expecting the pain to go away but everything is still sore as hell there.

>>39173334
Try ephedrine and adderal like>>39173320
Said

>>39173512
i never had gyno, but i didnt know that it gives you pain lol.

Anyways, just keep popping ralox breh.

>>39172921

Dbol only is retarded compared to test+dbol. That's all desu.

>>39173007

Drug dealer

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is front loading worth it ? I just shot 500mg test ethe day before yesterday and plan to shoot 125mg every 3 days and add this shit in to my cycle (pic related) I have 100 tabs if these and Access to cheap human grade legit sust
what do?

>>39173253

Phera? Isn't that one of those older mediocre designer steroids?

10mg dbol + 30mg msten.

Thank me later.

>>39173566
Thanks bro. Pray you never get it, it's a major bitch.

>>39173610

You're cutting? Dnp and that 125 e3d is fine.

Leave sust alone.

You're bulking? Triple your test dose, get ai.

Don't take t3 on a bulk unless you're advanced.

Opinions on peptidepharm and musclebond ?

>>39173636

Mine gtfo after 6 months of letro and lowdose ralox on a cruise.

Anecdotal, but then most is.

>>39173651

Dunno, and legit but overpriced.

>>39173620
I've heard great things about it in terms of sheer strength gains.

>>39173651
musclebond is legit

>>39173662

Im fairly sure msten will be better. Pound for Pound more strength. Dbol to keep e2 flowing. Imo, 10 dbol for 12 weeks and 12 weeks of msten is legit if yoir liver is in decent shape.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BL1-w6GgNcw/

Dat mattie

>>39173640
lol what? cutting with 300mg test e(210mg without the ester) is retarded,not the dosage tho, that is enough to gain a good keepable amount of mass since its triple the natty amount.
leave dnp alone
if one were to cut with test (cutting with steroids is retarded period) they should use test p since it's literally scientifically proven that it is better for cutting
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/313854-anthony-roberts-new-article-esters.html
this would make sust an excellent drug for a long cycle and maybe some winstrol until pct after last injection.
I don't know shit about t3-t4 blends tho>>39173610

>>39173685
Does msten convert to estrogen? I'll need to read up on it.

I was planning to keep a cruise dose of test for while running the phera so the dbol would be a no no for me haha

>>39169730
>Born alone die alone.
at first I only admired your physique and liked your arrogant ways.
But the minimalistic "philosophical" stuff you throw in now and then is really interesting.
Do you read in your spare time or is this just stuff you come up with?

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>>39172576
>Let me guess
You still on that EB?

>>39172982
You better not be flying through muh airport or I'm going to steal them.

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>>39173814
>mfw I will never get snaps like these

how is it possible that i can have the definition of being like 13%, as in oblique striations and shit and 6 abs, but like the actual amount of fat of someone that is like 20%

do i have "transparent fat" genetics or something

>>39173814
>2 qt 4 me m8

dam my life

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>>39173603
it's relative and not retarded, stop parroting. not everyone has the same goal nor ready to jab a needle into their body quite yet.

>>39172872
pls respond. anyone. pls.
don't have a lot of funds, was considering ghrp2 for the gh look without getting fake generic hgh

>>39173994
>not everyone has the same goal
yea guys i am preparing for my "get shut down for literally no benefit" goals of 2016

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>>39173990
>>39173848

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>>39173994
How much would you be paying for generics vs ghrp? I'd pick up grey tops and just run those desu.

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>>39173966
visceral fat
>>39174011
>no mirror behind her

she can't even be a whore properly

>>39174023
>purposeky pinning freeze dried insulin stored in unrefridgerated chinese wear houses

>>39173814
Im not sure they even still exist lol

>>39174011
more

>>39174036
>>visceral fat
i mean like, if you looked at me, you would imagine that you would feel with your hands the striations and shit. but you can only see them, not feel them. its like my fat is see-through compared to everyone elses

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>>39174039
>unrefridgerated chinese wear houses


> , ?

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>>39174092
The fuck happened to my reply.

>still exist
Well shit who do you use, hubei yuancheng?

>>39174045

Any decent supplements to take on TRT?

Only doing .5cc 2x a week...nothing drastic, pretty standard. Also taking anastrozole 1x a week.

>>39173734

K.

Kek.

>>39173771

No it doesnt, that's why you want dbol with it.

>>39173994

Test+dbol is always superiot. But that doesn't mean dbol is bad. It might just be one of two oral only cycles that are not retarded.

>>39174108
the fuck?
do you have an entire folder of this girl posting nude snaps?

give us an imgur link

>>39174112
>taking Ai on trt

let me guess this is one of those

>xDDD gois yes im on TRT, just 250mg /wk so totally within natural ranges :DDD dank memes brahs

>>39174163
...no?

I'm just following the directions given to me. It's technically .5cc every 4 days, so less than 200mg a week.

I haven't had my levels checked in a while. First check it blasted over 2k total test, dialed it back to .5cc 1x a week, dropped to like 500. Not sure where it is now.

>>39173007
part time job as the thing you are studying to become?

>>39174005
so taking dbol is literally no benefit? lol wat
news flash:test also shuts you down. dbol at least is way fucking faster results.
>>39174023
i was considering grey tops actually from a source who's never burned me. i'll consider. how many iu of generic just for the gh tightness, goal atm isn't to grow bigger necessarily.
>>39174126
i can sign off to this. it's just funny to me people saying "you HAVE to do test with ANY cycle"
There are better ways, and more effective ways but it isn't necessarily a bad idea at all

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>>39174108
I use alibaba for czgen

No i fell for the lmc meme

>>39173994
mk677 > shitty peptides

otherwise as said grey tops.

If you want to improve your physique test is fine and cheap.

>>39174190
Fish oil and garlic oil for their beneficial effects on blood lipids.

>>39174204
>news flash:test also shuts you down. dbol at least is way fucking faster results.

you are such a huge fucking retard

>>39174235
I was taking fish oil for a while...ran out a few days ago, don't remember the dose.

>>39174204
Listen, if you want a basically trouble free oral only drug, then just use LGD-4033.

People agree you can easily lose dbol only results quickly.

>>39174261
Just take the regular recommended dose that's on any of the fish oil supplements, I wouldn't know it depends on the quality of the oil too. Doesn't really matter if you get expensive shit like shark or salmon or regular fish oil, in the end the expensive ones just are smaller pills.

>>39174265
Its not trouble free completely. I run it at 5mg /day fine. But got shut down hard (unable to concentrate, zoning out hot flashes) when I switched from 5mg to 10mg a day after being on for 4 weeks. Stopped immediately and recovered within like 3-4 days.

Cheap EU sources where i can buy dbol for paysafecard?

>>39174204

You'll pretty much always want e2. You could supplement with estrogen tabs though.

So that means adrol and dbol both work. But with all the others, unless you're in contest prep, you'll want estrogen in there.

But doing contest prep with oral only... Yeah...

Then there's Bimbo who can run 1g of test with no ai. And I can run tren only just fine...

But those are exceptions.

>>39174297
>shut down
>recovered in 3-4 days
lol nope

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>>39174150
no.

>>39174214
>lmc meme
The chinaman claims another victim.

>>39174228
Pretty sure tcruiz already runs test as he's been here for a while.

>>39174297
I havent had those issues, but I didnt jump dosages. Ive done high and low.

>>39174190
If it was a legit TRT dose you wouldnt need Ai for it. You see where the dilemma is?

not sure what those numbers are supposed to mean.

0.5cc of what? 250mg/ml ? 300mg/ml?

Just to let you know, 150mg per week of test e puts most people in the 0.1% top natty ranges.

A legit TRT dose would be 100-125mg test e per week.

200mg is way over natty levels.

>>39174301
>Cheap EU sources where i can buy dbol for paysafecard?

Sourcetalk not allowed.

>paysafecard

What is this, the nineties?

>>39174306
I get estro issues about 2 months to 12 weeks in on 500mg test. I can do 250mg test and 600mg tren e and upwards with no ai, no caber, no nothing just fine. Libido skyrockets too hard though.

>>39174327
Let me check...

200mg/ml of cypionate. So, less than 200mg of that a week.

>>39174327
I thought trt was 200mg every 10 days?

Though thatd give higher peak levels at the start of the injection and low levels towards the next..

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>>39174228
bro i'm on test mast wini atm, ive been on years.
but the look of gh is a tad different kna mean.
mk? really? hm..
>>39174245
i'm not here to argue intro to taking roids. continue to think oral only is retarded i could give a fuck

>>39174345

I meant I somehow don't need wet compounds. But I do need ai on anything over 250mg test.

Tren only should fuck me up because no e2. While low it's still there for w/e reason.

>>39174355
Wait 200mg/wk gave you over 2k levels?

>>39174360

Trt is replacement, tailored to someone specifically. Could be 150, 200, 100...

Nebido 250 e10d is stable enough iirc.

>>39174362
Dont fall for the mk meme
The way i see it, grey tops are going to be better than peps, but ghrp and mod grf are so cheap

Really you need legit kigs

>>39174355


How do you pin?

If you pin 0.5cc every 3 days, you are over natty levels, hence you need Aromatise inhibitors, which are not needed on a real TRT dose.

Dont take it the wrong way, you can do whatever you want to. But i dont like poeple saying

>FKN FUNNEZZ GOIS TRT LOLOLLOLOL

when its not a TRT dosage at all.
Just say you are giving yourself a little boost and thats it, dont call it trt

>>39174360
not sure where you got that from but its retarded

>>39174384
Well, the script was for 200mg every 10 days, but since I just got it, I played around with it a bit. Sometimes a bit early, sometimes a .6cc, etc.

So it's not really a good assessment. I only ran out like 10 days early, so I didn't fuck with it too hard.

>>39174384

250 gave me 70+ nmol/l. That's 2100+ iirc.

>>39174414
blue top Saizens tbH

>>39174423

Pharma testoviron btw.

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>>39174414
these are the words i was looking for. ghrp sounds not bad, and way cheaper. Xtops are always a risk ya know. you ran either or?

>>39174417
It's all good man.

200mg every 10 days is about the lowest I can go without feeling like shit or no real change.

I started around 315 total test if that helps. The goal was to get me to around 800-900 (I'm 34)

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>>39174422
I'd fuck around and pin 1/4-1/2 the prescribed dose and then get it raised so you can get more refills.

>>39174437
Damn. Are you in a legal country or did you just order it international?