Philosophy

they can be.

Everything in life is philosophy.

you need a reason

Largely no, those who fight pain can't be great thinkers

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>>39139041
Yes but not really since the days of the greeks

>>39139041
ask Fronk Yong

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>>39139216

Alot of good responses in the thread
Physical fitness and studying philosophy are both necessary steps on the path to improvement

>>39139254
I don't disagree with stoicism, but people need to acknowledge that it is a gove-and-take. Those that harden their bodies and minds will endure their lot in life in a hard place, but they will not make great works and thoughts

No.
>>>/lit/

GTFO

/thread

>>39139284
>Those that harden their bodies and minds will endure their lot in life in a hard place, but they will not make great works and thoughts

Citation fucking needed

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>>39139290
"It is not the daily increase but the daily decrease. Hack away at the inessentials. "

>>39139284

Lmfao, 98 percent of a successful and great men are physically fit, often to a high degree

Stoic and Epicurean.The Epicurean selects the situations, the persons, and even the events which suit his extremely sensitive, intellectual constitution; he renounces the rest that is to say, by far the greater part of experience because it would be too strong and too heavy fare for him.The Stoic, on the contrary, accustoms himself to swallow stones and vermin, glass splinters and scorpions, without feeling any disgust: his stomach is meant to become indifferent in the end to all that the accidents of existence cast into it: he reminds one of the Arabic sect of the Assaua, with which the French became acquainted in Algiers; and like those insensible persons, he also likes well to have an invited public at the exhibition of his insensibility, the very thing the Epicurean willingly dispenses with: he has of course his "garden"!Stoicism may be quite advisable for men with whom fate improvises, for those who live in violent times and are dependent on abrupt and change able individuals.He, however, who anticipates that fate will permit him to spin " a long thread," does well to make his arrangements in Epicurean fashion; all men devoted to intellectual labour have done it hitherto!For it would be a supreme loss to them to forfeit their fine sensibility, and to acquire the hard, stoical hide with hedgehog prickles in exchange.

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>>39139426
The man who wrote that was an intellectual though, an intellectual trying to sound tough.

It's the classical version of an internet tough guy.

There's wisdom there regardless

>>39139831
That dude wasn't promoting stoicism y'know. It was a sincere pros/cons assessment

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>>39139216
you can't be a thinker without observing or experiencing anything at all, anon-kun

>>39139900
That's my point. Most lifters tell you to ignore the pain, that's not experiencing it, that's dulling your senses. True fitlosophers have to embrace the pain and feel it fully

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>>39139936
Pain is weakness leaving your body

>>39139216
do you mean people who experience pain or people who try to get away from pain? Either way, you are dumb as shit.

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Insofar as they are both for gents, yes.

Aristotle taught out of an abandoned gymnasium.

>>39139426
Can I be both?

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being that philosophy went hard left post 1970 (thanks postmodernism and the frankfurt school), no.

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sure, after all, lifters always come up with the most epic of motivational shit

>>39139216
Ever heard of Friedrich Nietzsche?

>>39140104
>no DOMS after first time
Am I doomed?

Philosophy is a process not a set of claims.
Kant said that "ought implies can" meaning that you shouldn't be held responsible for not using your non-existent superman strength from stopping a plane from crashing. That's just a product of philosophy, the *process* of analysis leading to that claim is the philosophy. "ought implies can" isn't a philosophy, it's a truth.
Fitness has been associated with greek philosophy. Plato means "broad" because he was a big guy. If you believe Plato that fitness is a part of a good life, then that's believing sage advice. It's not philosophy, but why should that make it less important?

Mens sana in corpore sano bros

>>39140542
You probably did not work out hard enough or are more conditioned than you think you are

https://breakingmuscle.com/strength-conditioning/doms-the-good-the-bad-and-what-it-really-means-to-your-training

>>39139041
Nope, kys

>>39139216

what about you, you are a pussy and stupid as shit

>socrates isn't a great thinker

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>>39139041
frank says he meditates 11 hours a day and have stoped watching movies and music because the only thing that matches the intensity of stillness of meditation is
weightlifting, and he doesent like the visual medium anymore as he feels its dream worlds people use to go to escape reality but he feels what we percive as real is also a dream wordl so whats the point

Not strictly speaking philosophy, but Yukio Mishima is pretty /fit/ (being a closeted homossexual and all)

>>39140958
to think that its the same man that made this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9mSLksZLqQ
i problably watched it 20 times and to think now he has eached enlightement before me, i think its the ASIAN mentality where you go all in with evrything

>>39141095
keked

Not directly, it's up to you to contemplate while you push heavy things around

>>39140958
frank yang is based

>>39140901
> beat the Shit out of Persians in the army
> war hero, got a unique pension
> I can live forever never work again
> stays in shape and uses new free time to contemplate approaches to life and new ideas
> nobleman btfo
> wipe it all away and choose to die for my glorious city
Socrates was a fucking alpha

>>39139290
You misspelled /pol/, cuck

>>39140104
No, pain is pain and it's a grander concept than strength and weakness

>>39141838
Pain is growth, growth takes away weakness

>>39139936
>logic this flawed

>>39140416
everyone is part of both brah

>>39139179
>>39139193
/thread

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>>39142474
rong image kekekek

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Yes. Read Mishima's Sun and Steel.

He was very /fit/, even had the homoerotic tendencies.

>>39139041
Not all the time, some are follow the law types who don't really question anything.

>>39142614
break the rules follow the laws

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>>39142717
Break them both

>>39142758
thats how you end up in prison

>>39142807
Not if you're smart

>>39142827
smart people doesn't get punished for breaking the law?

>>39142988
Rarely, I think Trump said this too in a way. He is a dirty business man and does what he needs to compete. I don't agree with that 100% but Trump is awesome and will crush Hillary

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>>39143083

>>39143083
your so out of touch with reality, im not sure if i should laugh or be concerned

>>39139343
Not even close.

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>>39143152
>being this uninformed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXJj1_eMEX0

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>>39143276
trump doesn't think think climate change is real
trump think vaccines cause autism
trump thinks a fat female is not a woman
also he says and do whatever he wants and while this is not bad in itself it creates 10 enemies for every good friend you create
eighter way america is screwed

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>>39143330
tumblr: the post

>>39140104
Some pain is just soreness and a signal to grow or repair.
Some pain is damage alarms going off and a very loud and clear message to stop doing that shit.
Sometimes training through pain is the best way to snap your shit.

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Why are there no shredded philosophers? The only person I can think of is Yukio Mishima. I don't mean like Bodybuilders who occasionally say something profound, I mean like someone who is a philosopher first and a bodybuilder second? Why do intellectuals always value the mind over the body?

>>39143621
https://www.instagram.com/being_frank_yang/

>>39143621
Because bodybuilding is only good for aesthetics not actually using your body in a type of way. Real philosophers are deeper than that and push the body to the human limits doing things like martial arts. They are into all the arts they write poetry, write plays/movies, arent scared of death see Socrates or Bruce Lee

>>39143621
Jack Donovan is pretty large. I'd bet on him being in the thousand pound club.

>>39139216
Abe Lincoln was a wrestler and in pretty great condition. There's also the numerous generals and soldiers who then became leaders of nations.

>>39140538
Actually on Nietzsche, he argued that people base their personal philosophy on their own physique, such as strong people tend to be more likely to agree with the idea of "might makes right".

>>39143686
The greeks were more concerned about looks rather then function.
Secondly Socrates was a cock sucking fuccboi who did little more then take credit for the intellectual talent of his students and recite things that were stolen from the alexandrian libraries.

I'm a philosophy PhD at an Ivy League school, and judging by the people I meet at conferences and in my department, most philosophers are not particularly interested in fitness. Most professional philosophers are massive robots, and don't have much of a life outside of philosophy.

That said, there are some elements in philosophy, particularly in ancient and virtue theory, that would recommend a healthy lifestyle.

However in almost all these cases fitness is just an instrumental good.

>>39143873
What the fuck are you talking about, you literally don't know shit. 'Socrates took credit from his students' what? We only know Socrates THROUGH Plato, so it doesn't even make sense to say this. Also, Socrates was criticized for NOT engaging in many homosexual pedagogical practices that were common at the time.

>>39143902

well modern philosophy is fucking cancer, be it continental or analytical

we have forgotten "being" :^)

>>39143951
Oh, cool, did you learn that on 4chan? :^). Chances are you don't know a single thing about it, and I'm not too worried about some idiot loser's opinion on a Mongolian chicken-fighting forum.

>>39143621

My college philosophy teacher is pretty ripped. He even give bonus points for buff guys. He got a Phd and stuff.

I also suspect him of being a homo. But he is ripped.

>>39143873
Definitely your need to be dedicated to your hobbies and I never heard of him stealing anything