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After 5 years of cutting/bulking/recomping, trying basically everything, I've come to the conclusion that natty lifting is a meme.
>When I'm bulked, I'm just fat bloated mess
>When I get shredded, I look extremely skinny without a pump.
>When I'm in-between shredded and bulk mode, I just look skinnyfat.
These are the 3 options you have as a natty
1. Fat bloated mess
2. Shredded, but extremely skinny without a pump.
3. Inbetween Fat/Shredded, skinnyfat mode.
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>>39133073
>in between fat/shredded, skinnyfat mode
Strong natties can easily look good at around 13-14% bf after 5 years of lifting.
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Is whey protein considered natty or no?
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OP all you discovered it that you have shitty genetics.
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>>39133073
Send us a pic, you are doing something wrong if you look bad after FIVE YEARS
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OP maybe you just have bigorexia. Post pics of most recent cut/bulk
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>>39133073
Post:
1-current body pic
2- height / weight
3- routine
I can help
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>>39133217
>he still thinks years lifting has anything to do with results
mate, people make most of their gains in the first 2 years
if you still look like shit after the first 18-24 months, don't expect any major changes after that point, and GG to your genetics
theres a reason why steroids are so popular/common
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>>39133073
Are you a lanklet? Some lanklets have these problems. I'm the God-Tier balanced 5'10" where I am decently tall yet still get great muscle gains quickly. I kinda have the best of both worlds.
Either way if you are not a lanklet you either need to lift harder or reconsider your diet when bulking. That or bulk for longer so when you cut you still look pretty huge
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>>39133073
I figured that cutting/bulking as a natty is a meme. lean bulk, ~500 cal surplus, is the way to go. look good year round, and look slightly better every year
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>>39133293
>5'10"
>Tall
Kek'd
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>>39133293
>god tier
>5'10
pick one
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>>39133293
>5'10"
Kys
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>>39133295
Myself I'm on perma maintenance weight wise.
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>>39133073
Maybe you're just absolute shit at what you do
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>>39133073
#whiteboiproblems
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>>39133295
>cutting and bulking are memes
>here's how I bulk
Also
>500 calorie surplus
>lean bulk
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>>39133293
>5'10"
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>>39133295
>I figured that cutting/bulking as a natty is a meme. lean bulk, ~500 cal surplus, is the way to go.
Are you that fucking idiot from the other thread? That is technically bulking you dipshit
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>>39134118
>500 cal surplus is a lean bulk
LUL
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>>39134118
That's why he said *cutting/bulking* is a meme. As in, cycling between the two.
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>>39133839
STFU EEL
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